2025-26 NBA Thread: Chauncey Billups suddenly resigns to play minor-league baseball (4 Viewers)

[DJackson10]

Details of the rigged poker games that Damon Jones and Chauncey Billups were involved (from the US Attorney press conference):
+ X-ray machines built into tables to read face-down cards
+ Contact lenses/glasses that read pre-marked cards.
+ Secret cameras in card trays

Got damn Chauncey

I just don't get this.

Why go to this elaborate of a scheme if you are already making millions? Just so stupid.

I think there is some kind of addiction to the adrenaline rush of it all. No longer playing after decades of competitive sports and maybe there is just some hole to fill?

Man, take up golf or bowling or something.

We don’t know what his money situation is. He MADE millions but it could already be all gone. Especially if he is a gambler.

Many of these athletes in sports suck at money management. Think I heard awhile back over half the nfl players who retire file for bankruptcy or go broke in less then 5 yrs after playing career. These days the nfl has gotten manadatory financial classes for rookies on how to spend wisely, invest, ways to not get scammed, etc. it’s almost embarrassing how poorly many athletes deal with their finances

 

[mr. furley]

Chauncey's biggest downfall will be that he speaks English and doesn't have an interpreter....

might not be interested in it, but this is apparently the guy that Shohei's interpreter was laying bets with. if i recall, he said something like $300 million plus form the interpreter alone.

the bookie (below) just went to federal prison for his charges. essentially he got caught up because of the interpreter

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[Juxtatarot]

There's not much to the Billups part of this: https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2025/10/u.s.-v.-aiello-et-al.-indictment.pdf

If all they have is a single session from 2019, it's not much of a case against Billups.

The AKAs are awesome.

 

[McBokonon]

Chauncey's biggest downfall will be that he speaks English and doesn't have an interpreter....

Bruh

@ghostfrank11
“Billups should just blame his interpreter.”

 

[General Malaise]

Sure is fun living in a one-horse town with a professional team that just cannot get out of its own way.

Good thing I've always been a Spurs' fan.

 

[General Malaise]

Reddit thread from TWO years ago!

For context this is a poker-focused podcast by Matthew Berkey (a well-known professional poker player for 20+ years who lives in Vegas) and his close friends with whom he runs a poker coaching company.

Matt: There are a lot of stories about it. There's one that cropped up, must've been like 5 years ago, 2019ish I think? 4 years ago? Where there was this game, it started in LA and then it came to Vegas for a few days, and it was all built around Chauncey Billups. And I had heard about the game, and the person who told me about it was like "Look, I know the game runners, I am telling you 100% this game is on the up-and-up." And I was like "Well, I know a lot of the people that are involved and I am telling you 100% that it is NOT on the up-and-up."

We kind of went back and forth and I agreed that I just wasn't going to go play. But I had some friends who went and played it both in LA and in Vegas, and it obviously was like, for sure confirmed to be cheated. Like people who clearly didn't even understand the rules of No Limit Hold'em are just jamming hundreds of big blinds with a gutty and then just drilling it.1 [laughs] Only the pros are losing...

Conrad: How was it figured out?

Matt: I can't remember if this was the game where...

Conrad: The loudspeaker? No... that was Pierce [referring to a different cheating story involving Paul Pierce]

Matt: Oh, okay. Well it's still, it's not like Chauncey and Pierce don't know each other [laughs]. I feel like it's probably the same crowd overlapping there, but maybe not. Either way, it was basically confirmed amongst all the pros that the game was cheated but here's just no recourse. And just, you know, they got absolutely flayed.

Conrad: Yeah, there's no recourse in a lot of these situations.

Matt: Well it's tough too whenever you're dealing with someone high profile like that, because they carry a lot of weight and hold a lot of power, so all you can do is unite together and threaten to publicly out him or extort him in some sort of capacity, in which case... good luck. It's like, this guy beat rape charges. You think he cares about you calling him a cheater?

Conrad: Yeah, I mean it's like... most people cheat and come prepared for a situation when it does happen. So you just can't really out them. When they're there, you don't want to call them out in public--

Matt: Well what's crazy to me is that some of the guys I'm friends with that played the game kept going back, not fully convinced. Just like "These guys are so bad, man. So bad!" Yeah man, they know what's ****ing coming, man. You don't have to be good if you can know the deck start to finish. Of course they look bad, they're putting it in with no equity knowing that they're going to win the ****ing hand. Pretty tough you know?

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

What do you think happens with Billups while this is going on? Fired? Leave of absence? Could he travel with the team?

He has to coach Portland.

 

[msudaisy26]

After I graduated from Michigan State, I came home and went back to school at Oakland University. I worked at a local bar that was also near the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons play. Billups was one of the players that would come to the bar hang out with some of the regulars. It took a couple years, but he wore his welcome out and didn't ever come back to the bar.

I always thought it was odd that the best player on a championship caliber team wasn't mobbed when he came in, but then I would hear some of the rumors/stories and it kind of made sense.

 

[Kev4029]

After I graduated from Michigan State, I came home and went back to school at Oakland University. I worked at a local bar that was also near the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons play. Billups was one of the players that would come to the bar hang out with some of the regulars. It took a couple years, but he wore his welcome out and didn't ever come back to the bar.

I always thought it was odd that the best player on a championship caliber team wasn't mobbed when he came in, but then I would hear some of the rumors/stories and it kind of made sense.

You can't just drop that and not expand on it.

 

[Yo Mama]

Sounds like Billups is also part of the betting investigation (not just the mafia poker one) - as Co-Conspirator 8. They’ve got him tipping off these betting guys that the Blazers were sitting their key players to tank before it was officially announced. Maybe Billups isn’t named in this charge since he cooperated with the investigation? Seems bad.

https://x.com/yourmandevine/status/1981417845998186750?s=46&t=y6cC9YGHSWmPAqN66itfRA

 

[Kanil]

After I graduated from Michigan State, I came home and went back to school at Oakland University. I worked at a local bar that was also near the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons play. Billups was one of the players that would come to the bar hang out with some of the regulars. It took a couple years, but he wore his welcome out and didn't ever come back to the bar.

I always thought it was odd that the best player on a championship caliber team wasn't mobbed when he came in, but then I would hear some of the rumors/stories and it kind of made sense.

You can't just drop that and not expand on it.

He dunked on a kid two years younger than him in HS and then made him feel bad about it.

Source: Me (AKA "the kid")

 

[SWC]

What do you think happens with Billups while this is going on? Fired? Leave of absence? Could he travel with the team?

nothing because much like the clippers thing it ends up the league approved this who knew take that to the bank brohans

 

[Major]

After I graduated from Michigan State, I came home and went back to school at Oakland University. I worked at a local bar that was also near the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons play. Billups was one of the players that would come to the bar hang out with some of the regulars. It took a couple years, but he wore his welcome out and didn't ever come back to the bar.

I always thought it was odd that the best player on a championship caliber team wasn't mobbed when he came in, but then I would hear some of the rumors/stories and it kind of made sense.

You can't just drop that and not expand on it.

He dunked on a kid two years younger than him in HS and then made him feel bad about it.

Source: Me (AKA "the kid")

Haha, I had a buddy who played high school basketball with him in Denver. Said Chauncey was a beast.

 

[Yo Mama]

What do you think happens with Billups while this is going on? Fired? Leave of absence? Could he travel with the team?

nothing because much like the clippers thing it ends up the league approved this who knew take that to the bank brohans

Silver claims he has never heard of Billups, Rozier, Fan Duel, Draft Kings, the Cosa Nostra, or the game of poker before.

 

[Yo Mama]

After I graduated from Michigan State, I came home and went back to school at Oakland University. I worked at a local bar that was also near the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons play. Billups was one of the players that would come to the bar hang out with some of the regulars. It took a couple years, but he wore his welcome out and didn't ever come back to the bar.

I always thought it was odd that the best player on a championship caliber team wasn't mobbed when he came in, but then I would hear some of the rumors/stories and it kind of made sense.

You can't just drop that and not expand on it.

He dunked on a kid two years younger than him in HS and then made him feel bad about it.

Source: Me (AKA "the kid")

This must be what happened with Steve Kerr and @Jayrod

 

[thecatch]

What do you think happens with Billups while this is going on? Fired? Leave of absence? Could he travel with the team?

nothing because much like the clippers thing it ends up the league approved this who knew take that to the bank brohans

Silver claims he has never heard of Billups, Rozier, Fan Duel, Draft Kings, the Cosa Nostra, or the game of poker before.

We need a 4000 word tweet from Mark Cuban about how this is all a big misunderstanding and that anyone who thinks it's wrong to x-ray an opponent's poker hand just doesn't know the industry.

 

[General Malaise]

After I graduated from Michigan State, I came home and went back to school at Oakland University. I worked at a local bar that was also near the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons play. Billups was one of the players that would come to the bar hang out with some of the regulars. It took a couple years, but he wore his welcome out and didn't ever come back to the bar.

I always thought it was odd that the best player on a championship caliber team wasn't mobbed when he came in, but then I would hear some of the rumors/stories and it kind of made sense.

Wow. That's both hard to believe and yet, totally understandable in retrospect.

My MIL (who is, oddly enough, staying with us currently) was never a fan of the NBA. Until Chauncey and crew started winning and then she was ALL ABOUT the Pistons. Billups was by far her favorite player and she even had his bobble head doll (which broke, and I tried for weeks to find her a replacement one, with no luck).

My wife worked in the parking lot of the Palace. She has some great stories. Reggie Miller stopped and asked her for directions and she said he was an absolute prince of a man.

If I may ask, what bar was it? Probably driven past it 100 or so times over the last 18 years. The in-laws like to take us to The Detroit Sports Bar, which I really like but that's a little further up the road.

 

[General Malaise]

After I graduated from Michigan State, I came home and went back to school at Oakland University. I worked at a local bar that was also near the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons play. Billups was one of the players that would come to the bar hang out with some of the regulars. It took a couple years, but he wore his welcome out and didn't ever come back to the bar.

I always thought it was odd that the best player on a championship caliber team wasn't mobbed when he came in, but then I would hear some of the rumors/stories and it kind of made sense.

You can't just drop that and not expand on it.

He dunked on a kid two years younger than him in HS and then made him feel bad about it.

Source: Me (AKA "the kid")

This must be what happened with Steve Kerr and @Jayrod

lol.....you're on a roll!

 

[msudaisy26]

After I graduated from Michigan State, I came home and went back to school at Oakland University. I worked at a local bar that was also near the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons play. Billups was one of the players that would come to the bar hang out with some of the regulars. It took a couple years, but he wore his welcome out and didn't ever come back to the bar.

I always thought it was odd that the best player on a championship caliber team wasn't mobbed when he came in, but then I would hear some of the rumors/stories and it kind of made sense.

You can't just drop that and not expand on it.

He just wasn't a nice person was the best way it was described to me, he would sit with regulars, order drinks, hangout, chat, sign an autograph and then leave table stuck paying for the drinks. We had one of the waitresses claim she went to a hotel room after work one night and some how she got stuck paying for the room, he snuck out in the middle of the night and she claimed all the money in her purse was gone.

It was a very popular bar/restaurant and lots of players would come in after games or practice. Every time one of the players came in there world be a line of customers and staff wanting pictures or autographs, but with Billups it was only customers and not regulars at least the time while I worked there. By time I left he never came back, but other players still would.

 

[msudaisy26]

After I graduated from Michigan State, I came home and went back to school at Oakland University. I worked at a local bar that was also near the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons play. Billups was one of the players that would come to the bar hang out with some of the regulars. It took a couple years, but he wore his welcome out and didn't ever come back to the bar.

I always thought it was odd that the best player on a championship caliber team wasn't mobbed when he came in, but then I would hear some of the rumors/stories and it kind of made sense.

Wow. That's both hard to believe and yet, totally understandable in retrospect.

My MIL (who is, oddly enough, staying with us currently) was never a fan of the NBA. Until Chauncey and crew started winning and then she was ALL ABOUT the Pistons. Billups was by far her favorite player and she even had his bobble head doll (which broke, and I tried for weeks to find her a replacement one, with no luck).

My wife worked in the parking lot of the Palace. She has some great stories. Reggie Miller stopped and asked her for directions and she said he was an absolute prince of a man.

If I may ask, what bar was it? Probably driven past it 100 or so times over the last 18 years. The in-laws like to take us to The Detroit Sports Bar, which I really like but that's a little further up the road.

Hoops

 

[Kanil]

After I graduated from Michigan State, I came home and went back to school at Oakland University. I worked at a local bar that was also near the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons play. Billups was one of the players that would come to the bar hang out with some of the regulars. It took a couple years, but he wore his welcome out and didn't ever come back to the bar.

I always thought it was odd that the best player on a championship caliber team wasn't mobbed when he came in, but then I would hear some of the rumors/stories and it kind of made sense.

You can't just drop that and not expand on it.

He dunked on a kid two years younger than him in HS and then made him feel bad about it.

Source: Me (AKA "the kid")

Haha, I had a buddy who played high school basketball with him in Denver. Said Chauncey was a beast.

I didn't go to the same HS but lived close to the neighborhood courts he would play at. I didn't go there often because I was garbage but I did play against him a few times. I was like 120lbs soaking wet, with pockets full of quarters. He abused me, as he did everyone, and talked so much ****.

 

[the moops]

Seems bad.

Does it?

Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I’ve worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time.

 

[dickey moe]

https://x.com/oldnbatweetz/status/1981325583255818673?t=-rpys_-5Bzi5nkTLDq-Qqw&s=19

 

[Capella]

Reddit thread from TWO years ago!

For context this is a poker-focused podcast by Matthew Berkey (a well-known professional poker player for 20+ years who lives in Vegas) and his close friends with whom he runs a poker coaching company.

Matt: There are a lot of stories about it. There's one that cropped up, must've been like 5 years ago, 2019ish I think? 4 years ago? Where there was this game, it started in LA and then it came to Vegas for a few days, and it was all built around Chauncey Billups. And I had heard about the game, and the person who told me about it was like "Look, I know the game runners, I am telling you 100% this game is on the up-and-up." And I was like "Well, I know a lot of the people that are involved and I am telling you 100% that it is NOT on the up-and-up."

We kind of went back and forth and I agreed that I just wasn't going to go play. But I had some friends who went and played it both in LA and in Vegas, and it obviously was like, for sure confirmed to be cheated. Like people who clearly didn't even understand the rules of No Limit Hold'em are just jamming hundreds of big blinds with a gutty and then just drilling it.1 [laughs] Only the pros are losing...

Conrad: How was it figured out?

Matt: I can't remember if this was the game where...

Conrad: The loudspeaker? No... that was Pierce [referring to a different cheating story involving Paul Pierce]

Matt: Oh, okay. Well it's still, it's not like Chauncey and Pierce don't know each other [laughs]. I feel like it's probably the same crowd overlapping there, but maybe not. Either way, it was basically confirmed amongst all the pros that the game was cheated but here's just no recourse. And just, you know, they got absolutely flayed.

Conrad: Yeah, there's no recourse in a lot of these situations.

Matt: Well it's tough too whenever you're dealing with someone high profile like that, because they carry a lot of weight and hold a lot of power, so all you can do is unite together and threaten to publicly out him or extort him in some sort of capacity, in which case... good luck. It's like, this guy beat rape charges. You think he cares about you calling him a cheater?

Conrad: Yeah, I mean it's like... most people cheat and come prepared for a situation when it does happen. So you just can't really out them. When they're there, you don't want to call them out in public--

Matt: Well what's crazy to me is that some of the guys I'm friends with that played the game kept going back, not fully convinced. Just like "These guys are so bad, man. So bad!" Yeah man, they know what's ****ing coming, man. You don't have to be good if you can know the deck start to finish. Of course they look bad, they're putting it in with no equity knowing that they're going to win the ****ing hand. Pretty tough you know?

Oh **** yea

 

[Zow]

Details of the rigged poker games that Damon Jones and Chauncey Billups were involved (from the US Attorney press conference):
+ X-ray machines built into tables to read face-down cards
+ Contact lenses/glasses that read pre-marked cards.
+ Secret cameras in card trays

Got damn Chauncey

My understanding is that he was used to draw gullible players in (eg “Come playing with Billups and try to win his money!”)

 

[Zow]

Details of the rigged poker games that Damon Jones and Chauncey Billups were involved (from the US Attorney press conference):
+ X-ray machines built into tables to read face-down cards
+ Contact lenses/glasses that read pre-marked cards.
+ Secret cameras in card trays

Got damn Chauncey

I just don't get this.

Why go to this elaborate of a scheme if you are already making millions? Just so stupid.

I think there is some kind of addiction to the adrenaline rush of it all. No longer playing after decades of competitive sports and maybe there is just some hole to fill?

Man, take up golf or bowling or something.

We don’t know what his money situation is. He MADE millions but it could already be all gone. Especially if he is a gambler.

Many of these athletes in sports suck at money management. Think I heard awhile back over half the nfl players who retire file for bankruptcy or go broke in less then 5 yrs after playing career. These days the nfl has gotten manadatory financial classes for rookies on how to spend wisely, invest, ways to not get scammed, etc. it’s almost embarrassing how poorly many athletes deal with their finances

I’d be willing to bet that if you handed the average 23 year old 5 million he or she would blow it unwisely in a few years.

In other words, I don’t think this is an athlete issue but a “people in their early to mid 20s” are morons issue. The athletes just exemplify it on a larger scale.

 

[msudaisy26]

Details of the rigged poker games that Damon Jones and Chauncey Billups were involved (from the US Attorney press conference):
+ X-ray machines built into tables to read face-down cards
+ Contact lenses/glasses that read pre-marked cards.
+ Secret cameras in card trays

Got damn Chauncey

I just don't get this.

Why go to this elaborate of a scheme if you are already making millions? Just so stupid.

I think there is some kind of addiction to the adrenaline rush of it all. No longer playing after decades of competitive sports and maybe there is just some hole to fill?

Man, take up golf or bowling or something.

We don’t know what his money situation is. He MADE millions but it could already be all gone. Especially if he is a gambler.

Many of these athletes in sports suck at money management. Think I heard awhile back over half the nfl players who retire file for bankruptcy or go broke in less then 5 yrs after playing career. These days the nfl has gotten manadatory financial classes for rookies on how to spend wisely, invest, ways to not get scammed, etc. it’s almost embarrassing how poorly many athletes deal with their finances

I’d be willing to bet that if you handed the average 23 year old 5 million he or she would blow it unwisely in a few years.

In other words, I don’t think this is an athlete issue but a “people in their early to mid 20s” are morons issue. The athletes just exemplify it on a larger scale.

Exactly. When I was 23 I was horrible with money. The difference is I was dealing with 4 figures and yes I am counting the numbers after the decimal point.

 

[Juxtatarot]

What do you think happens with Billups while this is going on? Fired? Leave of absence? Could he travel with the team?

nothing because much like the clippers thing it ends up the league approved this who knew take that to the bank brohans

Silver claims he has never heard of Billups, Rozier, Fan Duel, Draft Kings, the Cosa Nostra, or the game of poker before.

We need a 4000 word tweet from Mark Cuban about how this is all a big misunderstanding and that anyone who thinks it's wrong to x-ray an opponent's poker hand just doesn't know the industry.

I’ve talked to Mark. We’re sitting out on this one.

 

[-fish-]

Details of the rigged poker games that Damon Jones and Chauncey Billups were involved (from the US Attorney press conference):
+ X-ray machines built into tables to read face-down cards
+ Contact lenses/glasses that read pre-marked cards.
+ Secret cameras in card trays

Got damn Chauncey

I just don't get this.

Why go to this elaborate of a scheme if you are already making millions? Just so stupid.

I think there is some kind of addiction to the adrenaline rush of it all. No longer playing after decades of competitive sports and maybe there is just some hole to fill?

Man, take up golf or bowling or something.

We don’t know what his money situation is. He MADE millions but it could already be all gone. Especially if he is a gambler.

Many of these athletes in sports suck at money management. Think I heard awhile back over half the nfl players who retire file for bankruptcy or go broke in less then 5 yrs after playing career. These days the nfl has gotten manadatory financial classes for rookies on how to spend wisely, invest, ways to not get scammed, etc. it’s almost embarrassing how poorly many athletes deal with their finances

I’d be willing to bet that if you handed the average 23 year old 5 million he or she would blow it unwisely in a few years.

In other words, I don’t think this is an athlete issue but a “people in their early to mid 20s” are morons issue. The athletes just exemplify it on a larger scale.

If you handed me 5 million I would blow it unwisely in a few years.

 

[Major]

He just wasn't a nice person was the best way it was described to me, he would sit with regulars, order drinks, hangout, chat, sign an autograph and then leave table stuck paying for the drinks.

That's awful especially when you know the guy is making millions. In Houston, Otis Thorpe was known as someone who would never tip on his bills. He was later replaced by Scottie "No Tippin" Pippen whose stingy lore became known nationally. Normally, waiters rush to get a celebs table but not for these two.

 

[dickey moe]

If you handed me 5 million I'd invest in some well-diversified mutual funds.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

https://x.com/oldnbatweetz/status/1981325583255818673?t=-rpys_-5Bzi5nkTLDq-Qqw&s=19

Brian Windhorst was on with Rich Eisen and he said the sportbooks flagged this game immediately and informed the NBA by sunrise the next morning.

There was nothing official said by the league, but Rozier didn't play again for the rest of the season.

 

[dickey moe]

https://x.com/oldnbatweetz/status/1981325583255818673?t=-rpys_-5Bzi5nkTLDq-Qqw&s=19

Brian Windhorst was on with Rich Eisen and he said the sportbooks flagged this game immediately and informed the NBA by sunrise the next morning.

There was nothing official said by the league, but Rozier didn't play again for the rest of the season.

Someone on the radio said the books noticed an inordinate amount of prop bet unders involving Rozier for that game. Have no idea if that's accurate but it tracks.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Which game was that? I’d like to see the box score.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

Chauncey Billups. Just totally unbelievable to me, how one can do that. I mean, Capella's subtitle greatness is well known, but this performance is like what Shohei did the other night to MLB, only in the FFA. Next level ****.

As Chauncey would say, BRAVISSIMO!

 

[SWC]

i bet i could dunk on webmanyamaha and i bet is someone asked him he would say thats right becuase thats just how it is game recognize game take that to the bank brohans

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Which game was that? I’d like to see the box score.

I believe this is it: https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202303140CHO.html

A decent game by the numbers. The only thing that sticks out is the poor 3-PT shooting.

 

[Jayrod]

Which game was that? I’d like to see the box score.

I believe this is it: https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202303140CHO.html

A decent game by the numbers. The only thing that sticks out is the poor 3-PT shooting.

That can't be it. That box score shows only 2 TO's but there are 3 at the start of that montage.

 

[Yo Mama]

https://x.com/oldnbatweetz/status/1981325583255818673?t=-rpys_-5Bzi5nkTLDq-Qqw&s=19

Brian Windhorst was on with Rich Eisen and he said the sportbooks flagged this game immediately and informed the NBA by sunrise the next morning.

There was nothing official said by the league, but Rozier didn't play again for the rest of the season.

And somehow, the league still cleared Rozier to play in their investigation.

 

[General Malaise]

Had the Jim Rome show on briefly and he had somebody text in with "Some times, the Mafia just gets a hold of you" which makes some sense.

 

[General Malaise]

Which game was that? I’d like to see the box score.

I believe this is it: https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202303140CHO.html

A decent game by the numbers. The only thing that sticks out is the poor 3-PT shooting.

That can't be it. That box score shows only 2 TO's but there are 3 at the start of that montage.

Looked like AI it was so comically bad.

 

[FarFromHome]

Feds getting info from someone. I've read the name Gilbert Arenas a couple times. Wonder if he struck a deal for info. Anyone got anything concrete on that?

 

[Sammy3469]

Feds getting info from someone. I've read the name Gilbert Arenas a couple times. Wonder if he struck a deal for info. Anyone got anything concrete on that?

Malik Beasley is notably not in the indictments as well

 

[msudaisy26]

Feds getting info from someone. I've read the name Gilbert Arenas a couple times. Wonder if he struck a deal for info. Anyone got anything concrete on that?

Malik Beasley is notably not in the indictments as well

He was busy with other endeavors.

 

[the moops]

https://x.com/oldnbatweetz/status/1981325583255818673?t=-rpys_-5Bzi5nkTLDq-Qqw&s=19

Brian Windhorst was on with Rich Eisen and he said the sportbooks flagged this game immediately and informed the NBA by sunrise the next morning.

There was nothing official said by the league, but Rozier didn't play again for the rest of the season.

Rozier played the next 4 games after this and 6 of the next 7. Did sit out the next 5 games but then went on to play 5 of the last 9 games of the season

 

[Ghost Rider]

I won't jump the gun with an overreaction or pretend to know that I know a lot about how this stuff, but based on what I have seen and always read, the feds never make arrests and press charges unless they all but have you dead to rights. These are not local cops trying to make a collar to improve their standing in their precinct; these are the feds having their ducks in a row and dropping the hammer.

 

[FarFromHome]

These are not local cops trying to make a collar to improve their standing in their precinct; these are the feds having their ducks in a row and dropping the hammer.

Yep. I worked for the Bureau of Prisons for a decade and that was the running dialogue among inmates. When the feds got ya the indictment rate is overwhelmingly set to crush.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Rozier played the next 4 games after this and 6 of the next 7. Did sit out the next 5 games but then went on to play 5 of the last 9 games of the season

He played the next three--the third game for only nine minutes--and then did not play again for the season. He was listed as inactive with no injury designation.

Terry Rozier 2022-23 Game Log | Basketball-Reference.com

Get Terry Rozier's 2022-23 game by game stats along with wins and losses stats on Basketball-Reference.com

www.basketball-reference.com

 

[Sammy3469]

I won't jump the gun with an overreaction or pretend to know that I know a lot about how this stuff, but based on what I have seen and always read, the feds never make arrests and press charges unless they all but have you dead to rights. These are not local cops trying to make a collar to improve their standing in their precinct; these are the feds having their ducks in a row and dropping the hammer.

There's going to be some interesting back and forth at court about the statue of limitations in reference to Billups since the only directly alleged act that included Billups occured in 2019 (ie more than 5 years ago). The Feds are probably going to have to show some type of ongoing act. They pretty have some payment to Billups in 2019, but it remains to be seen if that's enough to get a conviction especially since he seemingly didn't get paid for providing tanking information in 2023 (seemingly if he got paid for that info, he would have been indicted for that as well). They have a lot of the guys dead to rights here, but the Billups piece is the shakiest in terms of accusations in the indictment.

TDLR: there's no real info the the indictment for the time period April 2019 to June 2023 and the April 2019 seems sort of superfluous to what was happening in 2023.

 

[Frostillicus]

Spurs still suck.