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2025 College Football Thread: Brian Kelly googling what regional accent bottom tier ACC teams have (24 Viewers)

The crazy thing to me is, college football has never been more diverse or un-dynastic.... yet this thread is a 3rd (1/3) as dynamic as it used to be.

We have Indiana, INDIANA, as a legitimate playoff team/national title contender, almost all of the most recent title contwnders struggling in some form, Georgia tech back in the mix, Clemson gone, Texas gone, penn st gone, LSU getting manhandled, oregon is oregon, and yet....

1 comment an hour.

This may be the 1st time in 30 years that we end up with what we wanted... a discussion about a real championship. Yet now we have a playoff for it and whoever wins it all will have a loss or 2, or hell, maybe even 3.

And the thread is silent.

Can we go back to the old Bowl system?

Eta: VANDERBILT could end up in the playoff discussion. Yet :crickets:

Everyone just done?

I have been hearing about this all season. The portal and NIL seemed to have ruined much of what fans loved about college football. Get players in as freshman and watch them and the team develop. Watching games now it like "Jones started out at Tulsa, then moved on to OK State for 2 years, now the starting RB at Mississippi. Indiana is having great success swapping out 25-30 players every year and going with 3-4-5th year veterans.

Recruiting does not mean much anymore as teams like Ohio State will just buy whatever position is of need. But that is the new college football, and it is not going to change. It will slowly kill the rivalries as well.
 
This MSU QB is terrible!

They have to have someone better on the roster. Put the backup in while they are still in the game.
Does he look hurt to you? Does me.
He’s not hurt, just zero football IQ. Gets it from his coach…

Smith just looks like he does not want to be at MSU on the sidelines and just waiting for the ax to fall. The guy looks like Pinocchio from the side. Does not seem like a good fit.
 
I'll be honest, I didn't watch more than a minute of college football this weekend as I was on a little vacation to the Dallas area with my 21 year old son. I did get to watch Southlake Carrol HS football on Friday night and boy, if you've never been to a high school stadium in Texas or if you're like me and you haven't been to one in decades, things are very very different down there. Holy moly was that stadium nice. Huge too, for HS. Also went to a Cowboys' game, speaking of massive marvels of architecture. I don't think I saw the field once, but we were in the stadium with 100,000 other fans. Quite the experience. It was like one big party.

So, with that in mind, the Top 20 is going to be largely copy/paste and guess work but we'll do it regardless.....
Yes there are several nice high school stadiums in Texas. Large concentration of pro athletes live in Southlake Carrol district. High expectations for their football team each year and they usually deliver. There is usually a large supporting cast for high school games also (cheer leaders, dance team, band, color guard, choir). But there is also expectations to start specializing in one thing in early middle school, so lots of select leagues, camps, clinics year tound. Bu it does jeep the kids busy.
 
Recruiting does not mean much anymore as teams like Ohio State will just buy whatever position is of need. But that is the new college football, and it is not going to change. It will slowly kill the rivalries as well.

Wait, what? Ohio State takes among the least transfers of any program in the country. Among big name programs (i.e. programs that are usually considered to be contenders for the playoffs in most years), I think only Clemson has had less transfers come in from 2021-2025. The VAST majority of their national championship roster was long-term Buckeyes, as is the vast majority of this years team.

And while the small number of transfers they have taken have hit at a high rate and been key contributors, their most important acquisitions (Downs, Sayin) are guys that OSU was the clear #2 in their recruitment (and would have been #1 if not for Saban, which is why they transferred). So it isn't accurate at all to say recruiting doesn't mean much.
 
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Recruiting does not mean much anymore as teams like Ohio State will just buy whatever position is of need. But that is the new college football, and it is not going to change. It will slowly kill the rivalries as well.

Wait, what? Ohio State takes among the least transfers of any program in the country. Among big name programs (i.e. programs that are usually considered to be contenders for the playoffs in most years), I think only Clemson has had less transfers come in from 2021-2025. The VAST majority of their national championship roster was long-term Buckeyes, as is the vast majority of this years team.

And while the small number of transfers they have taken have hit at a high rate and been key contributors, their most important acquisitions (Downs, Sayin) are guys that OSU was the clear #2 in their recruitment (and would have been #1 if not for Saban, which is why they transferred). So it isn't accurate at all to say recruiting doesn't mean much.
Recruiting is no different than transfer portal anyway. Everyone is a free agent every year. Some of them have been on teams before and some haven't. Its the same thing.
 
So is Brian Kelly getting mega fired?
Done deal IMO
Happening now as a matter of fact. Thread full of links about it. Announcement can’t be far off now.

Wow.....

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
So what are his excuses now? Can't win championships at LSU because of the recruiting standards? 🤣

What accent will he fake next? Do they have college football in New England?
 
What incentive is there for Kelly to negotiate down from the buyout?

The only thing I think LSU could offer would be looser offset language (assuming there is some to begin with) on landing another job. Anything else?
 
Rank the top 3 current land spots for a coach (my thinking is below):

1) Penn St
2) LSU
3) Florida

3 really good programs who can challenge for a NC if they make the right hire. Florida has to compete with Miami and FSU in state and UGA/Bama on their border. Florida has the most talent but Louisiana has a ton and LSU has less competition in state with a ton of talent. PSU seems to have an “easier” job with in state but I don’t know the talent level compared with other two. I’m not sure there’s an obvious answer - I think a competent coach could win at any of the 3.

For what it’s worth both SEC teams have won 3 national championships since Penn State won one.
 
So far we have LSU, Penn State, Florida, UCLA, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, Stanford, and Virginia Tech as P4 schools looking for a coach. Did I miss any? Maybe adding FSU and I can't believe LSU is happy with Kelly right now. Narrator: They were not.
Crazy year. Could really be setting up for an interesting game of musical chairs. Kiffin is going to get a big raise one way or the other.
 
Biggest question I have is why is Scott Woodward still employed? $170M for Jimbo and Kelly sure is a track record.
You can broil steaks on Woodward’s LSU AD seat right now. He had knocked the non-revenue coach hires out of the park. Unfortunately, men’s basketball and football have floundered on Woodward’s watch.
 
So is Brian Kelly getting mega fired?
Done deal IMO
Happening now as a matter of fact. Thread full of links about it. Announcement can’t be far off now.

Wow.....

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
So what are his excuses now? Can't win championships at LSU because of the recruiting standards? 🤣

What accent will he fake next? Do they have college football in New England?
Brian Kelly’s first halftime speech when he gets the UCLA job:

 
Ed Orgeron was paid $17 mil to not coach in 2021 and now Brian Kelly is going to get paid $54 million to not coach just 4 years later. I mean, at some point, does it not boil down to one person or a small group of people that approve these hiring's? Somewhere, someone or some group of people have wasted $71 million dollars and they (seemingly, to me) are allowed to just continue to bumble along. The old saying "a fish rots from the head down" seems to apply here.
 
Ed Orgeron was paid $17 mil to not coach in 2021 and now Brian Kelly is going to get paid $54 million to not coach just 4 years later. I mean, at some point, does it not boil down to one person or a small group of people that approve these hiring's? Somewhere, someone or some group of people have wasted $71 million dollars and they (seemingly, to me) are allowed to just continue to bumble along. The old saying "a fish rots from the head down" seems to apply here.

I know the boosters exist at these schools and some have names but it is shocking they can't come up with something else to spend money on like just have super model hot girls on a yacht forever type things. If they all decided football is stupid what is the real market value of coaches?
 
Rank the top 3 current land spots for a coach (my thinking is below):

1) Penn St
2) LSU
3) Florida

ESPN has it:
1. LSU
2. PSU
3. UF

Penn State still has to have a little bit of stigma from the whole child rape thing. Or are we past that now?

I’m not and actively root against them but seems like most people have moved on. I just think the job is a little overrated although I do think the right coach can win (possibly the NC). Franklin came pretty darn close even with his limitations.
 
Ed Orgeron was paid $17 mil to not coach in 2021 and now Brian Kelly is going to get paid $54 million to not coach just 4 years later. I mean, at some point, does it not boil down to one person or a small group of people that approve these hiring's? Somewhere, someone or some group of people have wasted $71 million dollars and they (seemingly, to me) are allowed to just continue to bumble along. The old saying "a fish rots from the head down" seems to apply here.
I think Kelly's effectiveness ended with the NIL era. His style is abrasive and he isn't fun to play for. Give kids options and they aren't playing for that guy.
 
Ed Orgeron was paid $17 mil to not coach in 2021 and now Brian Kelly is going to get paid $54 million to not coach just 4 years later. I mean, at some point, does it not boil down to one person or a small group of people that approve these hiring's? Somewhere, someone or some group of people have wasted $71 million dollars and they (seemingly, to me) are allowed to just continue to bumble along. The old saying "a fish rots from the head down" seems to apply here.
I think Kelly's effectiveness ended with the NIL era. His style is abrasive and he isn't fun to play for. Give kids options and they aren't playing for that guy.
I don't disagree with you... he is a jack end. But asking informational wise... did LSU have a lot of portal exits?
 
What incentive is there for Kelly to negotiate down from the buyout?

The only thing I think LSU could offer would be looser offset language (assuming there is some to begin with) on landing another job. Anything else?

I don't know the ins and outs, but:

Kaare Johnson

@KaareJohnson
From my sources with very close ties to the LSU athletic department and the LSU board of supervisors, Brian Kelly and @LSU settled his buyout for around $20 million. Or around $30+ million less than was actually owed to him. Utilizing the “morals code” in his contract.​
10:10 AM · Oct 27, 2025 · 45.5K Views​
 
What incentive is there for Kelly to negotiate down from the buyout?

The only thing I think LSU could offer would be looser offset language (assuming there is some to begin with) on landing another job. Anything else?

I don't know the ins and outs, but:

Kaare Johnson

@KaareJohnson
From my sources with very close ties to the LSU athletic department and the LSU board of supervisors, Brian Kelly and @LSU settled his buyout for around $20 million. Or around $30+ million less than was actually owed to him. Utilizing the “morals code” in his contract.​
10:10 AM · Oct 27, 2025 · 45.5K Views​
The morals code? Ok... some investigative reporters need to get on this
 
The reason why Kiffin is the first name that comes up for openings is not because he is the best coach but that he has a track record of jumping ship at a moments notice for the slightest advantage for him whether school prestige or money. People know he is a mercenary.
 
Ed Orgeron was paid $17 mil to not coach in 2021 and now Brian Kelly is going to get paid $54 million to not coach just 4 years later. I mean, at some point, does it not boil down to one person or a small group of people that approve these hiring's? Somewhere, someone or some group of people have wasted $71 million dollars and they (seemingly, to me) are allowed to just continue to bumble along. The old saying "a fish rots from the head down" seems to apply here.
I think Kelly's effectiveness ended with the NIL era. His style is abrasive and he isn't fun to play for. Give kids options and they aren't playing for that guy.
I don't disagree with you... he is a jack end. But asking informational wise... did LSU have a lot of portal exits?
Not sure. I know they lost a WR to Miami.
 
So is Brian Kelly getting mega fired?
Done deal IMO
Happening now as a matter of fact. Thread full of links about it. Announcement can’t be far off now.

Wow.....

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
So what are his excuses now? Can't win championships at LSU because of the recruiting standards? 🤣

What accent will he fake next? Do they have college football in New England?
LOL at this and the thread title.
 
So let’s assume tOSU, Indiana and Oregon all make the playoffs. Does a fourth B1G team get in and if so, who is it?

Iowa after they clobber the toothless, punchless, rudderless Oregon offense in the cash & prizes.

Vertical passing game has vanished.

O-Line can't block.

Oregon has 2 more losses ahead of them.
 
So let’s assume tOSU, Indiana and Oregon all make the playoffs. Does a fourth B1G team get in and if so, who is it?

Quick glance at the schedule tells me no, there won’t be a 4th. OSU and Oregon will knock out the other 2 loss teams. And I think your boys give Nebraska their 3rd loss.
 

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