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2025 Detroit Lions: 0-0 HOF Game on tape, as DC said..."We got work to do" (52 Viewers)
- Thread starter Da Guru
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I never cared, and wanted my players to score against the Lions. Even if it meant the Lions losing. Only because it never mattered in the big picture. Things are different now.
Since it is out of your control play Lamb, hope he gets 100 and 2 TDs and the Cowboys lose. 31-27
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Waived FB Jason Cabinda.
Signed K Michael Badgley from the Practice Squad to the Active Roster.
Released DL Chris Smith from the Practice Squad.
Signed OL Michael Schofield to the Practice Squad.
Still one roster spot open on the 53 man. Surprised Irvin wasn't elevated.
Still have to make moves to put CJGJ, Houston and McNeil back on the roster for the playoff run.
Signed K Michael Badgley from the Practice Squad to the Active Roster.
Released DL Chris Smith from the Practice Squad.
Signed OL Michael Schofield to the Practice Squad.
Still one roster spot open on the 53 man. Surprised Irvin wasn't elevated.
Still have to make moves to put CJGJ, Houston and McNeil back on the roster for the playoff run.
I assumed they just activated Cabinda so he would get a check. I guess that was a great gesture assuming that move does not restrict them from any future moves. I have no grip on all the restrictions surrounding these moves. I have no idea what the deal is with Irvin, is he hurt? Is there someone else they are looking at for the last roster spot? Maybe Alim is close?
Moonlight
Footballguy
Lions have never won more than 6 games on the road in a season.
Beating Dallas would make it 7 and make history.
Detroit Lions DT Alim McNeill traveling to Dallas but still out: 'I feel really good'
Between now and the playoff game, we should have the following players available:
Alim McNeill
Ceedy Duce
Bruce Irvin
James Houston
Just take a look at the quality of these players. The defense should be much better. How much better remains to be seen.
I can only speak for myself but I'm excited.
Between now and the playoff game, we should have the following players available:
Alim McNeill
Ceedy Duce
Bruce Irvin
James Houston
Just take a look at the quality of these players. The defense should be much better. How much better remains to be seen.
I can only speak for myself but I'm excited.
Moonlight
Footballguy
And we need to stay healthy elsewhere. Expect a dogfight at Dallas tonight.Detroit Lions DT Alim McNeill traveling to Dallas but still out: 'I feel really good'
Between now and the playoff game, we should have the following players available:
Alim McNeill
Ceedy Duce
Bruce Irvin
James Houston
Just take a look at the quality of these players. The defense should be much better. How much better remains to be seen.
I can only speak for myself but I'm excited.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
I am way too dang excited for this game. I have debated brewing a pot of coffee to be sure I stay awake to which type of gummie to take to calm the heck down. I have had flash backs today of where I was when the Tigers won in 1984 at a buddies house in GP Park, both Pistons runs in the 90s including watching the finials at Waldo’s in Kalamazoo and the Wings championships and parades in the 90s. Not getting ahead of things at all with the Lions, just so damn fun to feel this way for the first time in a looooong time.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
At the begining the year I had them around 11-6, with the 3 most likely losses being at KC-Balt-Dallas. Happy to be wrong once already, let's hope for one more time.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
They called Dan Campbell a madman. And what he predicted came to pass.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
The play was there, Goff was off.
Moonlight
Footballguy
Tin Cup strategy.
Sometimes you need to lay up and take what is given.
Appreciate what MCDC has done to change the Lions culture and a lot that is due to his aggressivenes.
But sometimes going for a single is better than going for a home run depending on the situation.
Needed to kick the point after the penalty.
Sometimes you need to lay up and take what is given.
Appreciate what MCDC has done to change the Lions culture and a lot that is due to his aggressivenes.
But sometimes going for a single is better than going for a home run depending on the situation.
Needed to kick the point after the penalty.
kutta
Footballguy
Do you have a link?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
No after the game Aikman and the crew showed it and said he reported and the refs must not have heard
kutta
Footballguy
So strange
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
When Decker comes across the huddle he is making the universal gesture for reporting as eligible - hands on his numbers, brushes down
Sewell never put his hands on his numbers
Skipper never touched his uniform nor did he engage Brad Allen, he was several yards away when he turns and walks toward the defense to tell them who reported as eligible
all game long Brad Allen was announcing who has reported as eligible on the PA but on the 2 point conversion he does not
Sewell never put his hands on his numbers
Skipper never touched his uniform nor did he engage Brad Allen, he was several yards away when he turns and walks toward the defense to tell them who reported as eligible
all game long Brad Allen was announcing who has reported as eligible on the PA but on the 2 point conversion he does not
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
not a good effort from Jared and the playcalling was disjointed
don't get why we never put Goff under center on running plays to give the RB some momentum, lot of negative yardage plays where there was a defender all over Gibbs as soon as he gets the ball
ARSB 8 targets seems suboptimal
no idea why Barnes ran past Dak maybe he thought the ball was already out and didn't want to get penalized, huge opportunity missed there
Campbell did not go over and scream at him - he knelt down when he was on the bench and coached him
next series Barnes was back out there and made a big stop on 3rd down
similar mindset - LaPorta had 1 catch on 5 targets including a bad drop in the 1st half, 2nd half they kept peppering him - 6 catches on 7 targets
love that they just move on to the next play and don't point fingers, keep trusting your guys
while I get the fine line people who want to skewer Dan Campbell for being reckless the mentality was consistent - we're going to play to win and on the road that means being aggressive and taking chances
didn't work out and people will second guess him but I DON'T want coach second guessing himself - be yourself and keep coaching the way we love
there were plenty of chances to win the game yesterday, it never comes down to one play or one decision
don't get why we never put Goff under center on running plays to give the RB some momentum, lot of negative yardage plays where there was a defender all over Gibbs as soon as he gets the ball
ARSB 8 targets seems suboptimal
no idea why Barnes ran past Dak maybe he thought the ball was already out and didn't want to get penalized, huge opportunity missed there
Campbell did not go over and scream at him - he knelt down when he was on the bench and coached him
next series Barnes was back out there and made a big stop on 3rd down
similar mindset - LaPorta had 1 catch on 5 targets including a bad drop in the 1st half, 2nd half they kept peppering him - 6 catches on 7 targets
love that they just move on to the next play and don't point fingers, keep trusting your guys
while I get the fine line people who want to skewer Dan Campbell for being reckless the mentality was consistent - we're going to play to win and on the road that means being aggressive and taking chances
didn't work out and people will second guess him but I DON'T want coach second guessing himself - be yourself and keep coaching the way we love
there were plenty of chances to win the game yesterday, it never comes down to one play or one decision
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
John Harbaugh has seen a lot of the same criticism. I don't agree with his calls all of the time, but he's the HC and I'm not. I'd rather root for a team whose coach doesn't turtle up and has the gonads to take a chance.
I love Campbell for the same reasons. Tough (& screwy) loss, but the Lions will be fine.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Can’t find the post, but someone in the game thread said that if Campbell kicked the XP, the Lions could have won and improved their record to 8-8.
That’s exactly how I feel. I don’t think you can say his decisions cost them the game — going from the 7 was probably suboptimal, but it wasn’t a slam dunk, and in any event they got the penalty and had the right call on the final attempt; Goff just short-armed the throw.
But the broader point is I’ll take the attitude transplant he’s given this team over any one result. Let’s not forget that the last time the Lions got screwed by the refs in a big Dallas game — the Disappearing DPI flag — Caldwell compounded the error by punting on 4th down.
This year has been more special than any I can remember in my lifetime because, whatever the ups and downs, I have never once felt the need to utter the phrase “same old Lions”. If they don’t make a playoff run, it will be because they’re not good enough; most likely, as we saw last night, it will be because Goff isn’t good enough (though tbf he was nails on that final drive). But these are problems that can be addressed
That’s exactly how I feel. I don’t think you can say his decisions cost them the game — going from the 7 was probably suboptimal, but it wasn’t a slam dunk, and in any event they got the penalty and had the right call on the final attempt; Goff just short-armed the throw.
But the broader point is I’ll take the attitude transplant he’s given this team over any one result. Let’s not forget that the last time the Lions got screwed by the refs in a big Dallas game — the Disappearing DPI flag — Caldwell compounded the error by punting on 4th down.
This year has been more special than any I can remember in my lifetime because, whatever the ups and downs, I have never once felt the need to utter the phrase “same old Lions”. If they don’t make a playoff run, it will be because they’re not good enough; most likely, as we saw last night, it will be because Goff isn’t good enough (though tbf he was nails on that final drive). But these are problems that can be addressed
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2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
AND now I have flash backed to Armando Galarraga's perfect game being stolen from him by effing Jim Joyce. I feel horrible for Decker.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Compare that to the Dallas coach who has been called out repeatedly by his own fan base for being the opposite. Even after winning the game they made that point again.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
watching the postgame show, Lomas Brown said reporting as eligible is a simple thing. you catch the refs eye or walk toward him, put both hands at the top of numbers, wipe down. usually no words used.
Decker did that, twice. Skipper did not. Brad Allen had a brain lock, Skipper was the player who had been reporting eligible the whole game. he screwed up & assumed it was 70 again.
Decker did that, twice. Skipper did not. Brad Allen had a brain lock, Skipper was the player who had been reporting eligible the whole game. he screwed up & assumed it was 70 again.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
If Detroit had won the story would have been McCarthy botching clock management on Dallas’ final drive and giving the Lions the ball back with 1:30
The difference is Jim Joyce had the guts to admit he made a mistake.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
That was my thought, too, although I think I’d they had won last night they could have clinched the 2 seed with a win next week. Is that right, or would they have needed a Philly loss?
They would have gotten the 2 seed and still could get the 1 seed, so it wasn't meaningless.
I'm just wondering if Campbell was willing to trade a few points in expected win percentage for that reduced risk.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I think Campbell was willing to make a 40/60 decision because he saw value in going for the win in regulation. So often when we slam coaches for suboptimal decisions, a big part of the problem is that they clearly didn’t even think through the calculus of, say, going for it on 4th down. In Campbell’s case, I think he knew what he was doing and took a calculated risk
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I understand taking the risk when the ball is on the 2 yard line. I like that aggressiveness. Once the ball gets moved back to the 7 yard line, then you need to re-evaluate the probabilities and alter the decision. It's like a poker player. You have your probabilities pre-flop and then you have your probabilities post flop. If you don't change your decision making based on new circumstances, you will most likely end up losing in the end.
Campbell planned going for two all week. The practiced and had this specific play called. Before the drive Campbell told the offense to score a TD and then we would go for the win. Maybe Campbell should have changed his game plan after the penalty, but I respect his character to do what he told his team he would. From the two, the odds favor that decision. From the seven, it does not. But it came down to who Dan is as a person to stick to his word.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Every decision carries risk. Going to OT on the road, the odds are slightly against you, so that’s obviously risky. I would say the original attempt from the 2 was the high percentage play, since with Detroit’s offense (and the play call they knew they had) their odds were probably slightly better than 50%. From the 7 the odds were almost certainly well below the odds of winning in OT, but it was a risk Campbell was willing to take for the payoff. Maybe he wanted to send his team a message. Maybe he didn’t want to wear them out with an extra period. But I have no problem with it.
I came away feeling better about the Lions as a team. The defense especially stepped up and looked really good. We stopped the run for the most part. The pressure on the QB was there. We covered the WR pretty well. It is obvious we lack a shutdown corner, but Dak had to throw some pretty good balls. We were just not leaving guys open all the time like when we had Jacobs and Harris getting picked on.
I think we relied too heavily on the run and that bogged down the offense on most of the drives. We need a better mixture of passing and run. Not sure if Dallas defense confused our offensive line, but there were far too many cases of us letting a guy through unblocked. Maybe they saw something and exploited it. But unless you are just running all over the defense, this is still a passing league and you should be passing more than running.
I think we relied too heavily on the run and that bogged down the offense on most of the drives. We need a better mixture of passing and run. Not sure if Dallas defense confused our offensive line, but there were far too many cases of us letting a guy through unblocked. Maybe they saw something and exploited it. But unless you are just running all over the defense, this is still a passing league and you should be passing more than running.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Well at least that crew won't be working the Lions playoff game.
Moonlight
Footballguy
Interesting how quickly this news gets out as the NFL works to deflect criticism and offer a bone to Detroit after another screw over.
Moonlight
Footballguy
You only get so many opportunities to have a chance at # 1 seed and multiple home playoff games.
I think that Campbell has transformed the Lions from punching bags to a team that is respected and because of his aggressiveness makes other teams nervous.
But he should have kicked the point after the phantom penalty.
The good aftermath is that the Lions may have nothing to play for next week and can rest some players.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
And hopefully give some returning from injury players some game action before the playoffs.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I'm not very smart. What's worse, losing by 1 on the road to Dallas or losing by 4 at home to Arizona?
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
The mighty Rams escape Giant land because of a missed FG.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Still a longshot but if Lions beat Vikings and Philly loses at Giants or Dallas loses at Washington, that could still mean a 2 seed.
kutta
Footballguy
I think that’s an “AND” not an “OR” for the Dallas loss. Pretty sure Philly and Dallas both have to lose.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yes you are correct.
