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2025 Detroit Lions: 0-0 HOF Game on tape, as DC said..."We got work to do" (44 Viewers)
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I suppose eventually. It’s rare to have 31 or more.
KC-PHI was 32 a few years ago, the only such occurrence. 31 has happened 5x in the last 25 Super Bowls.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
The Dan Campbell’s (pl) visited a senior center for a pep rally & found a 99 year old fan.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Fanatics (+2000) and FanDuel (+2100) have since added Anytime TD by an OL (any game) for the Divisional round. I bet on Fanatics before I found FanDuel and have bet a bit on both.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
They asked Penei Sewell about Giovanni Manu & he said the area he’s grown the most is mentally, which is what he really needed. Just learning the playbook and understanding what defenses will try. “He’s the most gifted athlete in the OL room. He’s faster than me, both laterally & straight line.”
Not gonna get too excited about a guy who was inactive every week, but encouraging to know the other players see the potential there.
Not gonna get too excited about a guy who was inactive every week, but encouraging to know the other players see the potential there.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Something interesting I just noticed.
Giveaways - 7 of the 8 remaining teams were top 8 in turnovers; only the Chargers (4 INT) did not advance, and Texans are middle of the pack. Eagles + Lions tied for 6th, Bills were 1st.
Takeaways - Maybe not as crucial as we think?
Differential
1. Bills +24
6. Eagles +11
7. Texans +10
8. Lions +9
T 10. Ravens +6
T 10. Chiefs +6
T 10. Rams +6
15. Commanders +1
Giveaways - 7 of the 8 remaining teams were top 8 in turnovers; only the Chargers (4 INT) did not advance, and Texans are middle of the pack. Eagles + Lions tied for 6th, Bills were 1st.
Takeaways - Maybe not as crucial as we think?
- Bills 3rd
- Texans 5th
- Eagles 6th
- Lions 10th
- Chiefs 14th
- Rams 15th
- Ravens 20th
- Commanders 22nd
Differential
1. Bills +24
6. Eagles +11
7. Texans +10
8. Lions +9
T 10. Ravens +6
T 10. Chiefs +6
T 10. Rams +6
15. Commanders +1
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
NFL Weather for the Divisional Round
HOU @ KC: 23 degrees, feels-like 12°
WASH @ DET: 68-70 no wind loud af
LA @ PHI: Increasingly looks like a snow game
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BAL @ BUF: 18 degrees, feels-like 10°, snow possible
HOU @ KC: 23 degrees, feels-like 12°
WASH @ DET: 68-70 no wind loud af
LA @ PHI: Increasingly looks like a snow game
️BAL @ BUF: 18 degrees, feels-like 10°, snow possible
Not worried about Mahogany. If we have to go deeper it starts getting dicey. Mahogany is another Brad Holmes steal and will be a very good OL, but he is a rookie.
NFL Weather for the Divisional Round
HOU @ KC: 23 degrees, feels-like 12°
WASH @ DET: 68-70 no wind loud af
LA @ PHI: Increasingly looks like a snow game
BAL @ BUF: 18 degrees, feels-like 10°, snow possible
Weather is going to favor KC and Philly the most. 18 degrees is cold, but both Baltimore and Buffola are built for it.
Washington better bring out all their cold gear out for the game as it is going to be cold in Detroit.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Awosika is adequate, wouldn’t be a disaster, but Mahogany is another level. There must have been close to a dozen times in Chicago he would set up, no one was in his lane or coming late, & he would immediately pivot to obliterate a guy either Frank or Taylor had engaged.
We’ve had backup OL come in for spot starts before, and the bar has always been “OK, no penalties & don’t be a turnstile.” Christian dropped in the draft because of a knee injury a few years ago but he’s legit. Plus he can play either side.
He will start next year IMO.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Why I hesitate to criticize the drafting of injured players. They won't all work out but there is usually a higher ceiling at that pick than just taking 'the safe" player.
kutta
Footballguy
This always cracks me up.NFL Weather for the Divisional Round
HOU @ KC: 23 degrees, feels-like 12°
WASH @ DET: 68-70 no wind loud af
LA @ PHI: Increasingly looks like a snow game
BAL @ BUF: 18 degrees, feels-like 10°, snow possible
If it “feels like 12,” why isn’t it 12?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
This always cracks me up.NFL Weather for the Divisional Round
HOU @ KC: 23 degrees, feels-like 12°
WASH @ DET: 68-70 no wind loud af
LA @ PHI: Increasingly looks like a snow game
BAL @ BUF: 18 degrees, feels-like 10°, snow possible
If it “feels like 12,” why isn’t it 12?
Do have 110 degree days in Arizona that feels like 90 because it’s a dry heat with a breeze?
Any who complains about Brad Holmes is clueless. His success rate is in a league of its own, especially in drafts. Brad's risk in injuried FA has not all worked out as well mostly due to injuries, but CDIii, Amik, Patrick, Reader, Zeitler, Za'Darius and Monty have had a huge impact. Amik is starting to look like a real stud.
Not too concerned for two reasons:
1. They’ll create a game plan that puts him in a position to succeed, not fail.
2. As a G he’s between Ragnow and Sewell, not isolated on an edge.
He should be fine.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Also worth noting Mahogany's impressive debut at the Bears was at LG. He played RG throughout college, so this is probably an easier assignment. I know Fraley crosstrains all the reserves to be multiples but he'll be at his more natural position today.
No wonder tickets are so much more expensive for the Detroit gameNFL Weather for the Divisional Round
HOU @ KC: 23 degrees, feels-like 12°
WASH @ DET: 68-70 no wind loud af
LA @ PHI: Increasingly looks like a snow game
BAL @ BUF: 18 degrees, feels-like 10°, snow possible
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yes, to watch the Lions game you won't have to buy new parkas for the entire family.No wonder tickets are so much more expensive for the Detroit gameNFL Weather for the Divisional Round
HOU @ KC: 23 degrees, feels-like 12°
WASH @ DET: 68-70 no wind loud af
LA @ PHI: Increasingly looks like a snow game
BAL @ BUF: 18 degrees, feels-like 10°, snow possible
I like the Detroit defensive TD. Definitely Branch/Kirby Joseph are the most probable.
I am not in love with the current +9.5 spread. Teams can completely dominate and win by less, because clock management is more important than scoring. But still, the Lions should dominate, so I am taking them.
My crazy azz parley at +7500:
Detroit -9.5
Over 55.5
Det Defense TD
Tim Patrick TD (great red zone target)
Monty TD (how can't they reward Monty?)
I think Patrick gets a TD, may not be the first one, but I rolled with it and upped it a bit to +4700.
Patrick- 1st Lions series TD
Lions -9.5
Used a $25 free bet on it.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
This Lion’s team reminds me a lot of the 1992 Cowboy’s.
-Great up and coming team that has not won it before…
-Coach is a younger, loud and semi controversial figure in how he is viewed outside the walls of his own locker room.
-An under appreciate first round drafted QB who is humble and smart enough to sacrifice personal stats for wins.
-League leading rush attack. Lion’s with a 2 headed monster, Cowboy’s with Emmitt.
-An elite set of maulers on the OLine, who can walk up to the LOS and say to the defense “zone right”. Run the play and still get 8 yards on the play. Just being that dominant.
- A defense that plays second fiddle to the offense, but is a tough group that battles and gets coached up to make just enough plays.
I really think it’s your year. While I am a tortured Cowboy’s and Maple Leaf’s fan (hockey), my Dad (Rest in Peace) was a lifelong Lion’s fan. I know he would be loving your run so far.
Wishing you guys luck this one year and am pulling for a Lion’s SB.
-Great up and coming team that has not won it before…
-Coach is a younger, loud and semi controversial figure in how he is viewed outside the walls of his own locker room.
-An under appreciate first round drafted QB who is humble and smart enough to sacrifice personal stats for wins.
-League leading rush attack. Lion’s with a 2 headed monster, Cowboy’s with Emmitt.
-An elite set of maulers on the OLine, who can walk up to the LOS and say to the defense “zone right”. Run the play and still get 8 yards on the play. Just being that dominant.
- A defense that plays second fiddle to the offense, but is a tough group that battles and gets coached up to make just enough plays.
I really think it’s your year. While I am a tortured Cowboy’s and Maple Leaf’s fan (hockey), my Dad (Rest in Peace) was a lifelong Lion’s fan. I know he would be loving your run so far.
Wishing you guys luck this one year and am pulling for a Lion’s SB.
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ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Lions aren’t allowed to wear their black unis in the postseason. I guess that means blueberries it is
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Definitely will be the all blue, supersition and all that. I prefer the blue witb silver pants they haven't worn those since they lost to Tampa in them.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
The crowd will be a big test for the rookie QB. This will be the loudest most hostile environment he's ever taken a snap in.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Detroit can obviously win, but I don’t think it will be because the moment is too big for Daniels. Dude is unflappable
Mt. Man
Footballguy
Well, what can you say? Defense struggled to stop anything. Losing Amik, plus Iffy and Branch banged up at best.
Gibbs was cruising but it takes more than one guy. At least two of the turnovers cost Detroit points, and that's before the pick 6. An even turnover game, and who knows?
Definitely disappointing. Gonna be a long off-season to stew on this, especially if AG and/or Ben Johnson find jobs elsewhere.
Gibbs was cruising but it takes more than one guy. At least two of the turnovers cost Detroit points, and that's before the pick 6. An even turnover game, and who knows?
Definitely disappointing. Gonna be a long off-season to stew on this, especially if AG and/or Ben Johnson find jobs elsewhere.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Hang in there…that was a tough watch.
Gjallarhorn
Footballguy
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Honestly feel horrible for you guys, I was really rooting for you. Hang in there, you guys are building something special.
Honestly feel horrible for you guys, I was really rooting for you. Hang in there, you guys are building something special.
joey
Footballguy
+1
Sad to see the Lions lose after such an amazing season. The league is in great shape with these “new” great teams in the Lions and Commanders. That was a crazy game.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Well it’s been a blast folks. Actually feel like it was maybe the first turnover that was the biggest as that could have made it 14-3 and I think the pattern of the game would have been different ? Felt like we were flying before that. We were chasing from that point on which will have forced some of the other turnovers.
Tougher schedule next year, maybe it will suit us a little more to be a bit more under the radar. Already seeing visions of our D being fully fit and we incur some massive losses on the O. Would be sod’s luck
( make me stop thinking this way, it’s all the years of abuse )
Tougher schedule next year, maybe it will suit us a little more to be a bit more under the radar. Already seeing visions of our D being fully fit and we incur some massive losses on the O. Would be sod’s luck
( make me stop thinking this way, it’s all the years of abuse )
Moonlight
Footballguy
defense With the state of the Lions defense I did not expect them to be able to outscore three very strong teams in a row. So I did not expect them to win the Superbowl. The Buffalo game demonstrated that the defense was too weak and to win you would need to outscore the other team. The offense could not have any off games.
Washington copied the Lions philosophy on 4th down and kept up the aggression. They played a game that had very few errors.
Lions now have to wonder if Goff can carry them all the way after his mistakes.
Jamo is a frustrating player will make a brilliant play and then follow it up with some boneheaded move.
Also felt that any time Montgomery carried the ball was a letdown compared to Gibbs.
Washington copied the Lions philosophy on 4th down and kept up the aggression. They played a game that had very few errors.
Lions now have to wonder if Goff can carry them all the way after his mistakes.
Jamo is a frustrating player will make a brilliant play and then follow it up with some boneheaded move.
Also felt that any time Montgomery carried the ball was a letdown compared to Gibbs.
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Football Jones
Footballguy
Great season, overall.
I'm curious to see how they handle the Goff/Hooker situation. One is decent if unspectacular and the other is an unknown, but has a ton of upside. Windows can close quickly in the NFL so it'll be interesting to see what transpires this offseason (not just at QB, but with their coordinators, as well).
The Lions have a lot of talent, but I could see them going backwards a little bit in '25.
I'm curious to see how they handle the Goff/Hooker situation. One is decent if unspectacular and the other is an unknown, but has a ton of upside. Windows can close quickly in the NFL so it'll be interesting to see what transpires this offseason (not just at QB, but with their coordinators, as well).
The Lions have a lot of talent, but I could see them going backwards a little bit in '25.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Well, this unfortunately turned out to be accurate.
As I’ve mentioned, I’m a lifelong fan of both teams. Tomorrow I put on my Commanders hat and start cheering for them. But today I’m sad. Even a Commanders SB win could never mean as much to me as a Lions one.
I don’t even think it was the defense. I think they just had a bad game and made a lot of mistakes, and Washington basically didn’t make any.
BTW top three NFC North teams went 40-11 in regular season, 0-3 in playoffs
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
losing sucks
man, we could have had a really good defense this year....just too many injuries
Anzalone, Branch and Campbell all played well but overall too many missed tackles tonight
even when they sent two blitzers, never came close to sacking Daniels
actually did well containing him (14-52) but man he is a really good passer - super accurate
5 turnovers including a pick 6, just wasn't their night
it's a really deep Edge class - we should get Hutch a partner
man, we could have had a really good defense this year....just too many injuries
Anzalone, Branch and Campbell all played well but overall too many missed tackles tonight
even when they sent two blitzers, never came close to sacking Daniels
actually did well containing him (14-52) but man he is a really good passer - super accurate
5 turnovers including a pick 6, just wasn't their night
it's a really deep Edge class - we should get Hutch a partner
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Hooker is a 27-year-old 3rd stringer who lost his backup job to a high school football coach. You can stop trying to make him a thing.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Five turnovers, that's the game right there. Washington had zero. Throw in the injuries finally catching up to them and that's that.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Hooker may not ultimately make it, but he's a LOT more than what you're making him out to be, lol. I believe Holmes is really high on Hooker.
If I were the Lions, I'd start thinking about what he might be able to do for my team (assuming they haven't given it any thought like you seem to be suggesting).
TartanLion
Footballguy
How is he suggesting they haven’t given it any thought and how do you know what Holmes currently thinks of him ? Hooker is in the building every day and training every day the team does. Of course they give it thought and the only evidence we have about how they perceive him is the action he receives or lack thereof
Football Jones
Footballguy
He said Hooker would never be a thing. How does he know? Every quote I've seen from Holmes suggests he loves Hooker and a very early 3rd was spent on him, as well.
Everyone knows the "old, 3rd-stringer" moniker for Hooker is WAY overblown. Just because Bridgewater was active over him in a playoff game means absolutely nothing long-term. Hooker has much more raw talent, but he's also green. I'm sure they figured Bridgewater would be the safer option if Goff went down.
Anyway, I imagine they're going to give Hooker a lot more thought this offseason. They better, IMO.
This.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Had y’all in the SB. Bummer
I think the only one giving Hooker any thoughts is you.
eighsse2
Footballguy
How do people get by without capitalization in some languages?
