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2025 Miami Dolphins - 6-7, 4 wins in a row...big game at the Steelers next. (4 Viewers)

Gatorman said:
Ministry of Pain said:

So the Phins are winning out and going 10-7, is that what we all see now? :lol:
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You forgot that they will end up as the 8 seed in the AFC just missing the playoffs in that scenario...
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I saw where it's like only 40% chance at 10-7, I remember when Flores missed the Playoffs at 10-7 but let's not talk about him

-It should be noted that Miami isn't very good at picking in the Draft, at least not the last couple decades with a few exceptions
So while on one hand I want the Phins to get a higher pick, on the other they typically whiff when they have to pick in the Top 5

-If Miami pushes off from Tua in the off season, Pre June/Post June, trade or release or whatever, it's gonna take the dead cap hits to an all time NFL record
You've already sunk the money into Tua, and unless Miami has some direct line to hiring an actual head coach, let McDaniel stay as long as Tua is gonna be the starter
Miami needs an OL, the left side with Paul-Rookie LG-Brewer...that's fine but Tua has no blindside starters at RG or RT, both Daniels and Austin Jackson have started 1 game each...
I like to criticize Tua but I bet we'd be 5-5 vs 3-7 if we had any kind of production from the right side of that OL...and still Achane is finding chunk plays
It looked so good when Miami had an OL for part of a season or two

-What I would like to see is Miami continue to pour resources and picks into the OL/DL and also the Secondary is going to need some attention IMHO...
If we can find an impact skill player with one of the 3 third Rd picks, go for it. The other 4 Top 100 should be used to get better on both sides of the Line
If we would build the foundation and do it right, I think eventually we could find a QB the way Tampa found Baker and Indy found Daniel Jones

Good to see you Gator
Cheers!
 
I'm not sure I ever saw a team try and give a game away more and still win. It's almost like McDaniel was being the team player and trying to lose for the draft pick. How you don't kick the FG with a minute plus left with the other team out of time outs is beyond me. Instead you turn it over and they march down the field and have a FG to win it. Then in OT you decide to kick away only to have them throw an INT. Commanders just wanted that draft spot more.

This team is going to run off a couple wins the next few weeks over the Saints and Jets and likely beat the Bengals and end up with 7 wins and end up about 6 or 7 picks later then they should have.
 
SwampDawg said:
I'm not sure I ever saw a team try and give a game away more and still win. It's almost like McDaniel was being the team player and trying to lose for the draft pick. How you don't kick the FG with a minute plus left with the other team out of time outs is beyond me. Instead you turn it over and they march down the field and have a FG to win it. Then in OT you decide to kick away only to have them throw an INT. Commanders just wanted that draft spot more.

This team is going to run off a couple wins the next few weeks over the Saints and Jets and likely beat the Bengals and end up with 7 wins and end up about 6 or 7 picks later then they should have.
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Glass half full take is that at least this will be good tape for the new GM to evaluate the players on the roster with.
 
I posted this towards the end fo the game thread but it deals with Miami showing who the really are towards the end of the 1st Half, chance to blow the game wide open...

-What was going on after the big Rasul Douglas interception in the 1st Half?
Miami is up 13-0, time to hit the gas, they're already set up in Saints' territory after a big return by Douglas
Miami starts to just loligag around with 1 timeout left, they gain 9 yds w/Achane on 1st down and they burn their last timeout with about a minute left, WHY?! :rant:
2nd and 1 they run the ball and don't make it and the clock is RUNNING and then on 3rd down they manage a FD but all the time is gone and they settle for a FG :rant:

Should have been 24-0 at the Half but they settled for field goals and it left the door open and that's why things get tight in the 2nd Half, Miami was lucky to win this football game.
 
Remaining schedule and W/L projections...

@NYJ, I could argue the Jets are a better team right now than they were the last time these two teams met, Miami could be a 2 pt favorite which ain't saying much
@Pitt, Rodgers or no Rodgers, just hard to envision the Phins winning on the road in what will likely be cold weather, another reason to bet against them vs the Jets this week
Could Miami possibly be 7-7 after these 2 road games? How about 5-9?

CIN, the defense makes them very beatable even when Joe Burrow is clicking. Different team with JB at QB, CIN would likely be a 6-7 point favorite I would think
TB, even if Miami puts together a winning streak which they won't, no way they are beating the Bucs
Best Best case scenario is 8-8 some how after these next 4 games which would set them up for a showdown in New England
It's possible the Patriots could be resting a lot of their starters in Week 18 if they have the Division locked up and also home field which isn't far fetched with Denver being the only real threat at the moment. The Patriots back ups especially along the OL/DL, better than our starters, I wouldn't disagree with you.

Hard to see Miami making it to something like 9-8 when they have to go on the road 3 times into the Northeast where cold weather is going to play a big factor, they would need amazing run production like we rarely see from them. And again, the game vs the Saints felt more like a loss than a win, they don't have the momentum rolling as they take to the road.
 
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Here is the way I see it.

Mike McDaniels is a good football coach, but he expects his players to be Adults but the GM drafted and FA'ed him a lot of children. You need a professional team with an attention to detail to run his system, whether that is in the running game or the passing game.

Remember before he became the coach we could never find a running back and our offensive line sucked? Well, the line kind of still sucks, but he is making it work. In a million years would you think we'd have a RB that is mentioned in the same breath as CMAC, Gibbs, Bijan?

His issue specifically to me is he "hold out hope" for players too long to get good. Julian Hill is an offensive miscue waiting to happen, yet he trucks him out there every week. Same with some of these other O Linemen.

From a GM perspective: Grier just would sign broken down FAs hoping to get them on the cheap and guess what, they'd get hurt again!!! Our big Guard FA signing? Dead. Corners? Dead. Tyreek? Dead. Even the move for Waller which was not expensive still gave us a player always on the injury report and I hope Jonnu is happy with the crapshow happenning in Pittsburgh.

Miami likely runs it back for one more year with this gorup and this "interim" GM. I hope they are smart enough to either draft a QB if he falls or Trade down to grab assets for the 2027 QB draft which will be the RESET if this doesnt get better. The pats and broncos are proving you do not need the overall #1 pick to find your franchise QB. I'd hire Daboll as an QB coach to scout for the next Jaxson Dart.

That is all.
 
Gatorman said:
Here is the way I see it.

Mike McDaniels is a good football coach, but he expects his players to be Adults but the GM drafted and FA'ed him a lot of children. You need a professional team with an attention to detail to run his system, whether that is in the running game or the passing game.

Remember before he became the coach we could never find a running back and our offensive line sucked? Well, the line kind of still sucks, but he is making it work. In a million years would you think we'd have a RB that is mentioned in the same breath as CMAC, Gibbs, Bijan?

His issue specifically to me is he "hold out hope" for players too long to get good. Julian Hill is an offensive miscue waiting to happen, yet he trucks him out there every week. Same with some of these other O Linemen.

From a GM perspective: Grier just would sign broken down FAs hoping to get them on the cheap and guess what, they'd get hurt again!!! Our big Guard FA signing? Dead. Corners? Dead. Tyreek? Dead. Even the move for Waller which was not expensive still gave us a player always on the injury report and I hope Jonnu is happy with the crapshow happenning in Pittsburgh.

Miami likely runs it back for one more year with this gorup and this "interim" GM. I hope they are smart enough to either draft a QB if he falls or Trade down to grab assets for the 2027 QB draft which will be the RESET if this doesnt get better. The pats and broncos are proving you do not need the overall #1 pick to find your franchise QB. I'd hire Daboll as an QB coach to scout for the next Jaxson Dart.

That is all.
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I think you could be right about running it back one more year with McDaniels and Tua, especially if they finish 9-8 or somehow 10-7. I do see them putting the new GM in place, giving him a year to evaluate and try and build some draft capital. However if they fall apart and lose 3 or 4 then the reset might be the Monday after the season.

Realistically:
Steelers - 30% chance we win, Rodgers coming off his best game of the year, they put them selves in a spot to win the division, cold weather game.
Bengals - 65% chance we win, their defense is horrible (look for a big game from Waller), Burrow has been making mistakes.
Bucs - 50% chance we win, the positive is it is between two huge games for them against the Panthers to decide the division, the downside is they are still playing for their playoff lives and we likely won't be by then. I think if the beat the Panthers the week before our odds to win actually go up, if they lose they will have no room for error.
Pats - TBD, depends if they are playing for anything or already have the top seed or bye wrapped up and rest guys.
 
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