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2025 Miami Dolphins - Draft 2025 (1 Viewer)

Todem where are you brother? You have to be excited about all this. I think its perfect for Miami, if Tua can't make it with these weapons, he's NOT your franchise QB, and you've got multiple 1sts next year to make that QB switch. Not to mention Miami will become a far more attractive destination to free agent QBs with Hill and Waddle. 
This is the most excited I have been since 1995.

We loaded up and went all in with this free agency haul and of course Tyreek Hill.....who is arguably the most dangerous offensive weapon in the league and he is going to line up with a 2nd year Waddle, Gesicki and the emerging Cedric Wilson......add to the pot of beef stew the sneaky but great pick up of Chase Edmonds who IMO is going to have a huge impact on this offense.

No excuses for Tua here......if he cannot get it done he will be replaced in the 2023 draft where we have 2 First Round picks.

The trade was freaking brilliant. I would easily give up a 1st and 2nd in the 2022 draft for the impact of a Tyreek Hill......man.....what an off-season.

Gonna give Grier major props on this one. Now it is about installing the scheme and executing and most importantly......STAYING HEALTHY. 

 
We were spoiled in Miami with so many high draft picks the last couple of years. Now it's time for @rockaction and @DJackson10and others to enjoy their draft parties.

We'll be back to the draft party in April 2023 with 2 first rounders, maybe selections 1.31 and 1.32 as McDaniel beats his former team! One can only dream.
Tyreek Hill and Waddle from last year with some carryover into this Draft because of the extra 1st round pick but collectively we invested a lot into these 2 and I believe it will pay off for Miami. 

-I'm not discussing it yet because we are in the middle of the Miami Dolphins Draft party, but we are going to have a lengthy intelligent discussion about Teddy B and his role for the Phins this year because I'm not convinced that Teddy B has cozied up to being the back up, RPO is his wheelhouse and he went 5-0 in relief of Brees in New Orleans a few seasons back, Tua is still QB1 but Teddy B is QB1-A? We don't need to draw a new Civil War topic in here to divide Phinsfans but I can see Teddy starting more than a game or two this season...except if Tua blows him away in camp which is what I hope happens. 

Teddy could probably win 10-11 games with what we are building here in '22. But for now we should enjoy what is going on. 

Coach M&M is starting to impress me with identifying the needs and his own personal strengths and matching personnel to his system. I'm excited but not blind to things we need to improve at. 

How would any sane person grade this off season for Miami? I think even a B+ which is usually a safe Grade is too low this year. It's gotta be an "A" and they added Bridgewater so it's not like they were blind to their QB needs. If Tua fails for whatever reason you can be assured Teddy B will take over and manage games like Jimmy G

Teddy B...Jimmy G, see any similarities here? 🤷‍♂️

Uh-oh I went a little too far into this topic and want to avoid it until we get past the Draft. 

 
Todem said:
This is the most excited I have been since 1995.

We loaded up and went all in with this free agency haul and of course Tyreek Hill.....who is arguably the most dangerous offensive weapon in the league and he is going to line up with a 2nd year Waddle, Gesicki and the emerging Cedric Wilson......add to the pot of beef stew the sneaky but great pick up of Chase Edmonds who IMO is going to have a huge impact on this offense.

No excuses for Tua here......if he cannot get it done he will be replaced in the 2023 draft where we have 2 First Round picks.

The trade was freaking brilliant. I would easily give up a 1st and 2nd in the 2022 draft for the impact of a Tyreek Hill......man.....what an off-season.

Gonna give Grier major props on this one. Now it is about installing the scheme and executing and most importantly......STAYING HEALTHY. 
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-Next fan into the cage 

"Weighing in at 275 lbs, the Ultimate Todem"

 
If that new coach runs a Shanahan type offense with this crew look out. If you took this same set of players and gave them to Shanahan how would you feel?

This teams looks dynamic as hell. And with Hill there I can't wait to watch him play with you guys. Good luck. 

 
@SwampDawg

The Title isn't bad but could we do something to welcome the "Cheetah" to South Florida?

South Beach Cheetah Club is going to be a very popular fan club in the lower end zones this year. Club Liv has always been a fun spot during games but it's going to be off the hookah this year. 

 
Stole this from Twitter and have not fact-checked it and understand that these "trade charts" and calculators are subjective but it seems about right to me, and I think it simplifies this trade to the point where we can argue that Hill is easily worth the 1.13 for a team that has the cap space to make it work...

@BrianCatNFL

If you tally up all of the picks the Chiefs received from the Dolphins for WR Tyreek Hill, it’s equivalent to the 13th overall pick in the NFL Draft on the trade value chart.

 
Sept 8th, 2019, Baltimore Ravens, home opener of the season, Week 1. 

59-10 as Lamar Jackson ripped us apart and Tua wasn't even here but we had no Offense anyways. 

M&T in Baltimore this season, payback! 

 
LeBatard Round Table  reaction, pretty good summary of Ross and honestly it reflects a lot of the jaded fan base but I'm betting that even the most hardened like LeBatard that you gotta see something just changed around here. 

I'm giving Tua a clean slate. I know he isn't Justin Herbert but they have the same number of Playoff appearances so far. I'm not asking for Tua to put the team on his back but he needs to do more than manage games. 

Looks like the head coach is going to show people how you support a QB and maximize his abilities. Jimmy G went to 2 NFCC games in the last 3 years and this coach was a part of that, trust the science 😉

I'm intrigued and I'm happy that Miami is going to try and go for it with Tua, they can't say they didn't try. 

All eyes will now be on Tua all summer long and I think that's great. 

 
Ministry of Pain said:
29th pick is almost 2nd Round and I would love to have the 50 pick but you gotta make some sacrifices. 

Folks are wanting to rub it in that these guys were drafted in the 3rd, 5th whatever...i posted about that already but you don't think they are going to slowly scroll thru our work in here. 

All good but don't waste too many brain cells arguing because guess what? Miami just became a sexy 6-foot blonde bombshell and guys are going to want to make crude remarks, not all but some of them. 

All good and means we are getting better. 


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Miami just became a tallest midget.

https://sportsbookwire.usatoday.com/lists/bradys-back-updated-2023-super-bowl-odds-for-all-32-nfl-teams/

This was after the Hill trade.  By the time you figure out you lost on this trade, Hill will be crossing 30 yo and losing his speed.  KC sold high.

It's OK MOP, we all like shiny things.  Every kid loves their toys on Christmas, every parent is dumping that toy at the Salvation Army a year later.

I also love the "29th pick is basically a 2nd round pick".  Ignoring the fact that teams get an extra year of control of a star player at almost the cheapest price possible....if you take out Barry Sander's long runs he's a run of the mill RB.

 
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Miami just became a tallest midget.

https://sportsbookwire.usatoday.com/lists/bradys-back-updated-2023-super-bowl-odds-for-all-32-nfl-teams/

This was after the Hill trade.  By the time you figure out you lost on this trade, Hill will be crossing 30 yo and losing his speed.  KC sold high.

It's OK MOP, we all like shiny things.  Every kid loves their toys on Christmas, every parent is dumping that toy at the Salvation Army a year later.

I also love the "29th pick is basically a 2nd round pick".  Ignoring the fact that teams get an extra year of control of a star player at almost the cheapest price possible....if you take out Barry Sander's long runs he's a run of the mill RB.
Cant you just let us enjoy this euphoria for a few days?  It has been decades since we had anything legitimate to be excited about. 

If your glass is half full, we added an offensive guru at HC who fellow coaches and players followed to Miami because they believe.  We then gave this mastermind one of the best LTs in the NFL, a very good LG, a ton of speed in the backfield, and arguably the best weapon in the NFL to work with.  We resigned our key players on both sides of the ball and already had a very good defense.  The guy who turned Deebo Samuel into a household name, and took Jimmy Garropolo to the NFC championship game has some shiny new toys to play with - arguably (probably easily) better weaponry than he had in SF.  

All that, and we still have 2 first round picks next season to build even more. Dolphins fans should be excited right now.  

 
Jesse Davis is gone.   This brings me joy 
And on these lines...

-Parker saves $6M after June 1st, not sure if Miami took a 4th or 5th for him if all his cap hit comes off the books, not sure how that works but he is owed $8.5M this season, when you see what other WRs are getting he might be a bargain for someone. Off sets Cedric Wilson if nothing else whenever Parker leaves Miami. I don't see Parker taking another snap in Miami. Preston Williams can be the WR4 and then there's that other guy you all toss around. 

-Eric Rowe $4.5M cap savings if they release him. No longer can replace as easily in the Draft. Someone might send a pick for him. 

-Jesse Davis is not yet reflective on Spotrac but that saves us $3.5M 

-Adam Butler, DT actually played half the snaps last year but he must suck since we weren't good at run defense. $4M if we release him. 

-Allen Hurns $2.5M can't believe he still here. (he was also released with Davis)

-Dieter $2.5M but we do need a Center. 

-Clayton Fegedelem $2.5M

-Cethan Carter $2.5M

$22M of Cap space with those players. We currently are $7M under the cap.

There's also players who can help by converting salary to bonuses, etc...and that could create many more millions so there still is enough to bring in more help on the OL, perhaps LB/DT if they find a guy they can upgrade with. 

 
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Pretty good return on investment.

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#Dolphins so far have turned the Laremy Tunsil trade into:

- Tyreek Hill

- Jaylen Waddle

- Jevon Holland

- Noah Igbinoghene
and the extra pick next year as well...

 
Ok, I'm off the ledge and have taken off my @Ministry of Painmask and I'm back on the band wagon. The more I thought about and listened to some reasoning I like the idea they are giving Tua everything he could possibly want and this is his year to prove it. I almost look at it like because of recovering from the injury, covid limits, etc his first year was a throw away. If you look as last year as more of a rookie season it doesn't look as bad, now this year he needs to step up.  If not you have two number ones in 2023 to move up in a better QB class or you have potential free agent QB's that year in Lamar Jackson, Derek Carr and Kyler Murray if they aren't reupped before that. The weapons are going to look very appealing to someone if they need to go get a QB next year.

 
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Miami just became a tallest midget.

https://sportsbookwire.usatoday.com/lists/bradys-back-updated-2023-super-bowl-odds-for-all-32-nfl-teams/

This was after the Hill trade.  By the time you figure out you lost on this trade, Hill will be crossing 30 yo and losing his speed.  KC sold high.

It's OK MOP, we all like shiny things.  Every kid loves their toys on Christmas, every parent is dumping that toy at the Salvation Army a year later.

I also love the "29th pick is basically a 2nd round pick".  Ignoring the fact that teams get an extra year of control of a star player at almost the cheapest price possible....if you take out Barry Sander's long runs he's a run of the mill RB.
Steve Smith had 1,000 yard seasons at age 32, 33, and 35. In the seasons he was 32 & 33, he averaged 17.6 and 16.1 ypc. It dropped to 13.5 when he was 35 playing with Flacco at QB and had a huge game in the playoffs.

Hill's Dolphin contract will be at ages 28, 29, 30, 31, and 32. He has a small cap this year, big the next 2 years.  He could potentially be cut in years 4 and 5 without much pain to Miami, or extended to reduce the cap hit. The contract, especially this year is great for Miami and allows them to bring in more players. Miami isn't finished with FA. The contract is good for Miami. The draft capital can be argued, maybe we could've gotten a cheaper WR and guard for the next 4 years at 1.29 and 2.50, maybe not. The 2 first round picks in 2023 is big.

Source:DouglieDoWrong:  https://youtu.be/6qV0kCLKqew

 
Steve Smith had 1,000 yard seasons at age 32, 33, and 35. In the seasons he was 32 & 33, he averaged 17.6 and 16.1 ypc. It dropped to 13.5 when he was 35 playing with Flacco at QB and had a huge game in the playoffs.

Hill's Dolphin contract will be at ages 28, 29, 30, 31, and 32. He has a small cap this year, big the next 2 years.  He could potentially be cut in years 4 and 5 without much pain to Miami, or extended to reduce the cap hit. The contract, especially this year is great for Miami and allows them to bring in more players. Miami isn't finished with FA. The contract is good for Miami. The draft capital can be argued, maybe we could've gotten a cheaper WR and guard for the next 4 years at 1.29 and 2.50, maybe not. The 2 first round picks in 2023 is big.

Source:DouglieDoWrong:  https://youtu.be/6qV0kCLKqew


Good counter argument.  The recent NFL trend suggests otherwise but I'm open to considering recent history as a fluke and we'll see the 30-35 yo WR return to relevance again.

 
Cant you just let us enjoy this euphoria for a few days?  It has been decades since we had anything legitimate to be excited about. 

If your glass is half full, we added an offensive guru at HC who fellow coaches and players followed to Miami because they believe.  We then gave this mastermind one of the best LTs in the NFL, a very good LG, a ton of speed in the backfield, and arguably the best weapon in the NFL to work with.  We resigned our key players on both sides of the ball and already had a very good defense.  The guy who turned Deebo Samuel into a household name, and took Jimmy Garropolo to the NFC championship game has some shiny new toys to play with - arguably (probably easily) better weaponry than he had in SF.  

All that, and we still have 2 first round picks next season to build even more. Dolphins fans should be excited right now.  


I'll step away now and let you enjoy.  Ballsy move and it will be fun to watch it play out.

 
Good counter argument.  The recent NFL trend suggests otherwise but I'm open to considering recent history as a fluke and we'll see the 30-35 yo WR return to relevance again.
Hill could be cut after the 2024 sesson at age 30.  And his $28 million salary would only have 10 million in dead cap space for 2025. I suspect he'll still be good, but Waddle could have a big payday not to mention Tua if he pans out, which I doubt.

 
I think Tua will be in Garropolo territory. Good enough to win with good players around him. But not good enough to carry an average team. Maybe injury prone, hopefully not. 

 
Say what you will about Ross (I certainly have), but his willingness to splurge on big signing bonuses really helps the Dolphins with the cap flexibility to make these moves. He isn't stingy with the checkbook.

 
Pretty good return on investment.

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#Dolphins so far have turned the Laremy Tunsil trade into:

- Tyreek Hill

- Jaylen Waddle

- Jevon Holland

- Noah Igbinoghene
Good point.

We hit on 3/4. I will take it.

 
Ok, I'm off the ledge and have taken off my @Ministry of Painmask and I'm back on the band wagon. The more I thought about and listened to some reasoning I like the idea they are giving Tua everything he could possibly want and this is his year to prove it. I almost look at it like because of recovering from the injury, covid limits, etc his first year was a throw away. If you look as last year as more of a rookie season it doesn't look as bad, now this year he needs to step up.  If not you have two number ones in 2023 to move up in a better QB class or you have potential free agent QB's that year in Lamar Jackson, Derek Carr and Kyler Murray if they aren't reupped before that. The weapons are going to look very appealing to someone if they need to go get a QB next year.
Yeah if Tua is a bust (and I still feel strongly he is) 2023 we get a new ring leader at QB and have the ammo to do it.

 
It’s my own fault for having a Twitter account, but I can’t believe how many fans don’t like this for Miami. Team hasn’t won squat in 50 years and they just acquired maybe the top playmaker (non QB) in the league. When you have a chance to do this,  you do it. I get it, they traded a bunch of picks, but the chance that you hit on one of those picks with a player of this caliber is beyond slim. 
I think the question is "Is this the piece they were missing?" Not "is Hill awesome?"

After thinking about it, I don't think it's a good move for '22. But I think it's an awesome move to try and attract a disgruntled, elite QB in '23 or '24. Maybe, after seeing players dictate where they want to go, they want to display an impressive roster to attract a QB. Kind of like a peacock showing its impressive plumage to attract a mate.

(Sorry, couldn't think of a better analogy). 

If that was their thinking, I get it. A player like Hill doesn't come around often. So instead of getting a QB and then getting him weapons, they're accumulating talent to look like the right destination for the next QB who wants out of wherever they are. And if Tua works out somehow, that's a bonus. But they're not depending on it. 

 
Also when you weigh $28M vs $10M dead cap...let's see where we are in '24. I like the structure, I'm OK if after 3 seasons they gotta kiss him good bye.


Hill could be cut after the 2024 sesson at age 30.  And his $28 million salary would only have 10 million in dead cap space for 2025. I suspect he'll still be good, but Waddle could have a big payday not to mention Tua if he pans out, which I doubt.
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As i said earlier, in one stroke of the pen/trade, Chris Grier united the fan base down here in a way I haven't felt since the days of Duper and Clayton. 

 
I think the question is "Is this the piece they were missing?" Not "is Hill awesome?"

After thinking about it, I don't think it's a good move for '22. But I think it's an awesome move to try and attract a disgruntled, elite QB in '23 or '24. Maybe, after seeing players dictate where they want to go, they want to display an impressive roster to attract a QB. Kind of like a peacock showing its impressive plumage to attract a mate.

(Sorry, couldn't think of a better analogy). 

If that was their thinking, I get it. A player like Hill doesn't come around often. So instead of getting a QB and then getting him weapons, they're accumulating talent to look like the right destination for the next QB who wants out of wherever they are. And if Tua works out somehow, that's a bonus. But they're not depending on it. 
Brady was linked multiple times to Miami before he rebooted in Tampa...don't kid yourself. That man will retire when his arm falls off and as long as there are stacked teams he can just walk on to and turn the faucet on...I'm not saying he is coming here but I bet the Dolphins were taking notes the whole way. 

Tua either sinks or swims but even if he fails the first part of the season, Miami has a Plan B, Teddy is much better than the back up we had the year prior, likely better than Fitz even and the RPO system is right in his wheelhouse, I'm starting to like him being on the roster, brings a ton of game experience. The IQ level on this team has shot up overnight it seems. 

This ain't the same Miami team we've been accustomed to watching. 

2001 last time Miami had an NFL Top 10 offense...think about that. 

 
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Brady was linked multiple times to Miami before he rebooted in Tampa...don't kid yourself. That man will retire when his arm falls off and as long as there are stacked teams he can just walk on to and turn the faucet on...I'm not saying he is coming here but I bet the Dolphins were taking notes the whole way. 

Tua either sinks or swims but even if he fails the first part of the season, Miami has a Plan B, Teddy is much better than the back up we had the year prior, likely better than Fitz even and the RPO system is right in his wheelhouse, I'm starting to like him being on the roster, brings a ton of game experience. The IQ level on this team has shot up overnight it seems. 

This ain't the same Miami team we've been accustomed to watching. 

2001 last time Miami had an NFL Top 10 offense...think about that. 
Brady to Miami talk resurfaced again today on Boston radio. 

 
DeVante Parker would be an easy trade to the Colts who brought in Matt Ryan and Parker could slide into their #2 role. 

-He only costs about $6M each of the next 2 years and when you look at other receivers around the league right now he's dirt cheap. 

4th or 5th Round pick will do and recoup a little of what we shelled out on Hill. 

 
Enjoy Miami Fans! As a Bears fan, it was great to see the Nagy nightmare come to an end, but since then, 😖. Talent leaving, meh coming in. Watching what is going on down there is fun!

 
Brady was linked multiple times to Miami before he rebooted in Tampa...don't kid yourself. That man will retire when his arm falls off and as long as there are stacked teams he can just walk on to and turn the faucet on...I'm not saying he is coming here but I bet the Dolphins were taking notes the whole way. 

Tua either sinks or swims but even if he fails the first part of the season, Miami has a Plan B, Teddy is much better than the back up we had the year prior, likely better than Fitz even and the RPO system is right in his wheelhouse, I'm starting to like him being on the roster, brings a ton of game experience. The IQ level on this team has shot up overnight it seems. 

This ain't the same Miami team we've been accustomed to watching. 

2001 last time Miami had an NFL Top 10 offense...think about that. 
Led by Lamar Smith at RB......LAMAR SMITH!!!

I think Grier had a great off-season here.....gotta give him mad props on loading up on two All-Pro caliber players in Armsted and Hill.

Getting a piece like Hill  is so much more about beyond 2022. 100% correct. I am not expecting him to be a savior this year.....if we get into the post season and win a post season game that is step one. Step two is most likely IMO looking for a franchise QB in 2023. 

Yes I am rooting hard for Tua.....god I want him to work out....and hey maybe all this (OL/Hill/Edmonds and McDaniel) will turn him around. But I have heavy doubts because my eyes don't lie to me. 

Let’s see what happens.

 
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Led by Lamar Smith at RB......LAMAR SMITH!!!

I think Grier had a great off-season here.....gotta give him mad props on loading up on two All-Pro caliber players in Armsted and Hill.

Getting a piece like Hill  is so much more about beyond 2022. 100% correct. I am not expecting him to be a savior this year.....if we get into the post season and win a post season game that is step one. Step two is most likely IMO looking for a franchise QB in 2023. 

Yes I am rooting hard for Tua.....god I want him to work out....and hey maybe all this (OL/Hill/Edmonds and McDaniel) will turn him around. But I have heavy doubts because my eyes don't lie to me. 

Let’s see what happens.
Next year Miami will have to navigate challenges to the salary cap when Tyreek will count $31M against the cap and Wilkins will need to get paid, plus our CBs will be paid a pretty penny.  We'll need to find a replacement for one of Jones or X.

 
Seeing a lot of chatter about Tyrann Mathieu to Miami on Twitter over the past couple days.  That secondary would be pure nasty.  X/Byron/Holland/Mathieu with Needham and Brandon Jones as well.  Sick.  Legion of Boom type sick.  

I think we still make one more big splash.  Maybe Tretter, maybe Mathieu.  Miami seems to have transformed into a desired spot to play though and it may all be due to the new HC.  Players seem to love the guy.  

 
Seeing a lot of chatter about Tyrann Mathieu to Miami on Twitter over the past couple days.  That secondary would be pure nasty.  X/Byron/Holland/Mathieu with Needham and Brandon Jones as well.  Sick.  Legion of Boom type sick.  

I think we still make one more big splash.  Maybe Tretter, maybe Mathieu.  Miami seems to have transformed into a desired spot to play though and it may all be due to the new HC.  Players seem to love the guy.  
Other people have done the math but miami can still free up more cap money this year with little to no pain. I don’t think they are done. 

 
Led by Lamar Smith at RB......LAMAR SMITH!!!

I think Grier had a great off-season here.....gotta give him mad props on loading up on two All-Pro caliber players in Armsted and Hill.

Getting a piece like Hill  is so much more about beyond 2022. 100% correct. I am not expecting him to be a savior this year.....if we get into the post season and win a post season game that is step one. Step two is most likely IMO looking for a franchise QB in 2023. 

Yes I am rooting hard for Tua.....god I want him to work out....and hey maybe all this (OL/Hill/Edmonds and McDaniel) will turn him around. But I have heavy doubts because my eyes don't lie to me. 

Let’s see what happens.
And it's not like Grier signed the 2 Pro Bowlers first. In many ways he slowly and methodically filled in some small holes and strengthened the base, returned all 11 starters on Defense, players keep notes as well. Then when he has a good base on which to build on Offense he makes 2 big moves and gets Armstead and Hill which together makes the two of them even better. One allowing Tua to have an extra half second to get the Cheetah down field and into open space, it's going to change this Offense. 

Chris Grier hasn't changed who he is and still having trouble picking the right players but he learned enough to make a trade like Hill knowing there were no guarantees in the Draft. Not that many folks are going to hold his feet to the fire for 2020 in the coming months. In fact if those three picks can all play meaningful snaps, Tua can start, Jackson can find a spot on the right side and Noah can play even a little Nickel or Dime then nobody will care. 

This is the best off season they've had in forever. I understand you don't win anything in March/April/May but at least they are trying and being creative and going for it. This team hasn't been interesting in so long I can't remember. It's bad enough to lose but to be so boring as well, nothing to make fans want to hug this team. That's about to change. 

 
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Draft 2022: At first we laugh and think we don't need to tune in but not so fast...Miami has players and future draft capital if they think they need to go in and get someone this year. I won't put it past Grier to get himself a seat at the table in the Top 50-75 if he thinks he needs to get someone now vs next year. 

X.Howard-Guy has amazing ball skills, one of the best ever in Miami, if they had any Playoff success i could see him going up into the ring of honor one day if stays here...What is he worth in a trade, would it make sense? You only think Grier and Miami have no draft picks but they have a few players that could be used as trade bait to get back into the Draft this year. 

Cap 2022: I have seen a bunch of teams that were in terrible cap shape making inwards towards players such as the Saints who were like $72m over the cap entering Free Agency...Miami has players that can convert salary to bonuses that are paid NOW and that's appealing to players and then Miami can have even more money to go find whatever they feel they need. 

I'm saying this because I'm greedy and want the Center, JC Tretter to come in and join the party. We hear Honey Badger would like to find his way here...Eric Rowe $4.5M if we release him, Bye Bye and upgrade to pair with Holland, WOW!!!

Edge Edge Edge...we need another pass rusher IMHO, bring the heat and put pressure on opposing QBs to rush passes and make huge errors we can exploit. 

Miami can start getting creative and already has. 

 
Draft 2022: At first we laugh and think we don't need to tune in but not so fast...Miami has players and future draft capital if they think they need to go in and get someone this year. I won't put it past Grier to get himself a seat at the table in the Top 50-75 if he thinks he needs to get someone now vs next year. 

X.Howard-Guy has amazing ball skills, one of the best ever in Miami, if they had any Playoff success i could see him going up into the ring of honor one day if stays here...What is he worth in a trade, would it make sense? You only think Grier and Miami have no draft picks but they have a few players that could be used as trade bait to get back into the Draft this year. 

Cap 2022: I have seen a bunch of teams that were in terrible cap shape making inwards towards players such as the Saints who were like $72m over the cap entering Free Agency...Miami has players that can convert salary to bonuses that are paid NOW and that's appealing to players and then Miami can have even more money to go find whatever they feel they need. 

I'm saying this because I'm greedy and want the Center, JC Tretter to come in and join the party. We hear Honey Badger would like to find his way here...Eric Rowe $4.5M if we release him, Bye Bye and upgrade to pair with Holland, WOW!!!

Edge Edge Edge...we need another pass rusher IMHO, bring the heat and put pressure on opposing QBs to rush passes and make huge errors we can exploit. 

Miami can start getting creative and already has. 
Already freeing up cap space...

@FieldYates

The Dolphins converted $13.255M of CB Byron Jones’ base salary into a signing bonus, creating $10.604M in 2022 cap space, per source. The team also added $750K in cap space by reworking the contract of S Clayton Fejedelem. With some major recent adds, Miami needed flexibility.

 
How thin is the ice under Tua?  I have the opportunity to pick him up in a SF league but not sure what I'm willing to pay.  Love the weapons but would hate to pick him up and then end up watching the T-Mobile show (who I had traded away for a pick at the end of last season).  Looking for some local perspective, thanks!

 
Already freeing up cap space...

@FieldYates

The Dolphins converted $13.255M of CB Byron Jones’ base salary into a signing bonus, creating $10.604M in 2022 cap space, per source. The team also added $750K in cap space by reworking the contract of S Clayton Fejedelem. With some major recent adds, Miami needed flexibility.
I would think they would like to get Gesicki on a long term deal vs Franchise Tag, with signing bonus and perhaps a minimal '22 salary with heavy side on the bonus they can clear out some more cap space. 

Jones now carries a $20M cap hit but ironically just $6M after June 1st, that does give a lot more flexibility and I'm starting to smell Honey arriving. 

 
How thin is the ice under Tua?  I have the opportunity to pick him up in a SF league but not sure what I'm willing to pay.  Love the weapons but would hate to pick him up and then end up watching the T-Mobile show (who I had traded away for a pick at the end of last season).  Looking for some local perspective, thanks!
Not that thin, but getting bridgewater on your team as well shouldn’t kill you. Fact is they are tailoring this offense to what Tua does and giving him protection. He either has to crap the bed badly (I don’t see it) or get hurt (and every qb other than Brady Carrie’s an injury risk)

 
Lot of Brady to Miami trade talk on Twitter, this cannot be true. 

@Anarchy99 I understand the Brady wanting to take a small piece of the pie in ownership or start with a certain percentage before he would eventually buy the team one day and have control. 

That said, I cannot believe he was ever coming here to pick up a football. 

 
Next year Miami will have to navigate challenges to the salary cap when Tyreek will count $31M against the cap and Wilkins will need to get paid, plus our CBs will be paid a pretty penny.  We'll need to find a replacement for one of Jones or X.
Ross/Grier seem more than willing and capable to navigate the cap. However, I'm certainly in the camp that would not pay Wilkins.

 
Next year Miami will have to navigate challenges to the salary cap when Tyreek will count $31M against the cap and Wilkins will need to get paid, plus our CBs will be paid a pretty penny.  We'll need to find a replacement for one of Jones or X.
What the salary cap will be in future years is usually a bit mysterious. Yes, we all know that the league is getting more revenue with new TV and partnership deals. However, the way things have generally worked is not quite the same as the way the media reports it.

The salary cap will go up each year . . . but it is predicated on going up AFTER the league starts getting more money. They space out the increases across the life of the labor deal with the players. In recent years (2020 excluded), the league has typically bumped up the salary cap $10M per team per year. So in a 5 year labor deal, compared to where things were at the time the last CBA ended, the increase in contribution from the league to the teams and players in terms of extra salary cap dollar would look like this: $320M + $640M+ $960M+ $1.28B + $1.6B = $4.8B total additional money added to the cap over 5 years.

When the media reports that the collected salary cap fund is going to go up by $5B, that is true but it is scaled up over time and not all at once. I can't tell if the media doesn't get that or if teams think there will be a new paradigm and the salary cap will take a huge jump all at once. So far, the league hasn't done that.

This year's salary cap is pegged at $208.2M . . . which if things stay the same, next year that would project to $218.2M. Miami has roughly $16M in existing cap space left as currently constituted for 2022. They could extend players, redo contracts, sign new players, etc. with a long way to go until opening day. If they don't spend to the cap, any leftover money will roll into next year.

Anyway, as of now, Miami has $208M already allocated for the 2023 season. That doesn't include any dead money they might incur, any incentives that they will have to pay out on current contracts, any dummy years on contracts that they will have to take cap hits on, etc. If the cap actually turns out to be $218M next year, the Dolphins are already at $208M of that . . . but they only have 34 players signed (51 players count against the cap).

Long story long, your point about cap management is very valid. Tua only counts $9.6M against the cap next year. After that, they will either have to pay him more to keep him or bring in someone else. Being already up against the cap without having a long-term solution at QB could require a lot of cap gymnastics moving forward.

 
Ross/Grier seem more than willing and capable to navigate the cap. However, I'm certainly in the camp that would not pay Wilkins.
Wilkins took a major step in his game last year. If he can continue on the upward trajectory, it could be a tough decision for Miami. From Barry Jackson:

>>Even beyond the 89 tackles that tied with Cameron Heyward for most among defensive linemen, Wilkins was credited by Pro Football Focus with 35 stops, a metric that measures plays that are particularly hurtful for the opposing offense (such as stopping a 3rd and three run short of a first down).

That was third-most among interior linemen.

No wonder PFF rated Wilkins sixth overall among all interior defenders for 2021 performance.

And his pass rush also improved; he had 4.5 sacks and 10 tackles for loss, combined with 3.5 sacks and 7 tackles for loss in his first two seasons combined.

Is he an elite defensive lineman? Not at this point. But he’s reliable, productive, durable and an asset overall. The Dolphins are clearly better with him than without him, and he’s a building block moving forward.

The Dolphins plan to exercise his $10.9 million fifth-year option this offseason if they don’t first strike a multi-year deal. He’s due to make $2.6 million in 2022.<<

 
What the salary cap will be in future years is usually a bit mysterious. Yes, we all know that the league is getting more revenue with new TV and partnership deals. However, the way things have generally worked is not quite the same as the way the media reports it.

The salary cap will go up each year . . . but it is predicated on going up AFTER the league starts getting more money. They space out the increases across the life of the labor deal with the players. In recent years (2020 excluded), the league has typically bumped up the salary cap $10M per team per year. So in a 5 year labor deal, compared to where things were at the time the last CBA ended, the increase in contribution from the league to the teams and players in terms of extra salary cap dollar would look like this: $320M + $640M+ $960M+ $1.28B + $1.6B = $4.8B total additional money added to the cap over 5 years.

When the media reports that the collected salary cap fund is going to go up by $5B, that is true but it is scaled up over time and not all at once. I can't tell if the media doesn't get that or if teams think there will be a new paradigm and the salary cap will take a huge jump all at once. So far, the league hasn't done that.

This year's salary cap is pegged at $208.2M . . . which if things stay the same, next year that would project to $218.2M. Miami has roughly $16M in existing cap space left as currently constituted for 2022. They could extend players, redo contracts, sign new players, etc. with a long way to go until opening day. If they don't spend to the cap, any leftover money will roll into next year.

Anyway, as of now, Miami has $208M already allocated for the 2023 season. That doesn't include any dead money they might incur, any incentives that they will have to pay out on current contracts, any dummy years on contracts that they will have to take cap hits on, etc. If the cap actually turns out to be $218M next year, the Dolphins are already at $208M of that . . . but they only have 34 players signed (51 players count against the cap).

Long story long, your point about cap management is very valid. Tua only counts $9.6M against the cap next year. After that, they will either have to pay him more to keep him or bring in someone else. Being already up against the cap without having a long-term solution at QB could require a lot of cap gymnastics moving forward.
Do you think NE & BB was among the multiple teams talking to Drew Rosenhaus about Tyreek? He fits their biggest needs to a T.  BB likes draft capital and I wonder about the cap for NE.

 
Do you think NE & BB was among the multiple teams talking to Drew Rosenhaus about Tyreek? He fits their biggest needs to a T.  BB likes draft capital and I wonder about the cap for NE.
Drew claims he spoke to all 31 franchises to announce that Hill was available. NE has rostered Rosenhaus clients in the past, so I am sure they at least discussed it. That being said, there is no way NE has the cap space to touch Hill, nor would they want to part with the number of picks it took to get him. They don't want to pay a WR even $10M a year. Basically, BB likely said thanks for letting him know and they were off the line in 15 seconds.

 
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Drew claims he spoke to all 31 franchises to announce that Hill was available. NE has rostered Rosenhaus clients in the past, so I am sure they at least discussed it. That being said, there is no way NE has the cap space to touch Hill, nor would they want to part with the number of picks it took to get him. They don't want to pay a WR even $10M a year. Basically, BB likely said thanks for letting him know and they were off the line in 15 seconds.
To be fair, I really can’t wait to see the matchup between miami and New England this year. 

 

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