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2025 Miami Dolphins - Minkah is coming back to South Florida (2 Viewers)

bomani
@bomani_jones

i'm watching get up and the question is whether the dolphins should try to acquire lamar jackson and whew they need to get on that right now. RIGHT NOW.
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Jaime Cruz-Morales@jcmlink
Lamar Jackson throwing to Tyreek Hill sounds pretty good, right?
Charles@Charles71415381
If Lamar leaves Baltimore he should go to the NFC but in Miami that offense might be historic,with atleast 3 playmakers on the field at all times and one is the QB.
Chris@MD10Chris
As a Patriots fan, the thought of Lamar tormenting them twice a year saddens me. But yeah, I don't see how Miami can move forward with Tua. He's possibly one more hit away from a traumatic brain injury.
 
bomani
@bomani_jones

i'm watching get up and the question is whether the dolphins should try to acquire lamar jackson and whew they need to get on that right now. RIGHT NOW.
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Jaime Cruz-Morales@jcmlink
Lamar Jackson throwing to Tyreek Hill sounds pretty good, right?
Charles@Charles71415381
If Lamar leaves Baltimore he should go to the NFC but in Miami that offense might be historic,with atleast 3 playmakers on the field at all times and one is the QB.
Chris@MD10Chris
As a Patriots fan, the thought of Lamar tormenting them twice a year saddens me. But yeah, I don't see how Miami can move forward with Tua. He's possibly one more hit away from a traumatic brain injury.
I am not a huge fan of Lamar’s ability as a passer, however I do believe that McDaniels can scheme the game to make it easy for him to hit a wide open Hill/Waddle several times a game. As someone who has Waddle I would not be real excited, but if I were a Miami fan I would be.
 
I'm sure Grier called Bal to ask about the price but can't see how Miami has both the cap room to sign him and the arsenal of players/picks to make the trade.

This Lamar to Miami talk feels like a combination of talking heads filler and leverage ploys
 
bomani
@bomani_jones

i'm watching get up and the question is whether the dolphins should try to acquire lamar jackson and whew they need to get on that right now. RIGHT NOW.
------------------
Jaime Cruz-Morales@jcmlink
Lamar Jackson throwing to Tyreek Hill sounds pretty good, right?
Charles@Charles71415381
If Lamar leaves Baltimore he should go to the NFC but in Miami that offense might be historic,with atleast 3 playmakers on the field at all times and one is the QB.
Chris@MD10Chris
As a Patriots fan, the thought of Lamar tormenting them twice a year saddens me. But yeah, I don't see how Miami can move forward with Tua. He's possibly one more hit away from a traumatic brain injury.
No thanks...not looking to swap one injury headache for another yet alone with one that you need to switch up the entire offense for and wants a fully guaranteed mega contract. Only way I'd consider it is a fair market contract and that Lamar was willing to change his game and become more Mahomes or Allen in his approach so he hopefully stays healthy. I think he has the skills to do that but the question is does he want to?
 
bomani
@bomani_jones

i'm watching get up and the question is whether the dolphins should try to acquire lamar jackson and whew they need to get on that right now. RIGHT NOW.
------------------
Jaime Cruz-Morales@jcmlink
Lamar Jackson throwing to Tyreek Hill sounds pretty good, right?
Charles@Charles71415381
If Lamar leaves Baltimore he should go to the NFC but in Miami that offense might be historic,with atleast 3 playmakers on the field at all times and one is the QB.
Chris@MD10Chris
As a Patriots fan, the thought of Lamar tormenting them twice a year saddens me. But yeah, I don't see how Miami can move forward with Tua. He's possibly one more hit away from a traumatic brain injury.
No thanks...not looking to swap one injury headache for another yet alone with one that you need to switch up the entire offense for and wants a fully guaranteed mega contract. Only way I'd consider it is a fair market contract and that Lamar was willing to change his game and become more Mahomes or Allen in his approach so he hopefully stays healthy. I think he has the skills to do that but the question is does he want to?
Should I pull out the 59-10 drubbing he put on us opening Week a few years back?
Add the '22 game and Lamar Jackson and the Ravens have put up 97 points on the Miami Dolphins in just those 2 games
Let's keep an open mind because QBs like him don't come on the market often, he still may not be available depending on what Baltimore ultimately decides.
Fun to think about, chances are slim even if it were a perfect fit.
I understand your hesitation but he's a strong upgrade IMHO
I was a big fan when he went to Louisville.
 
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bomani
@bomani_jones

i'm watching get up and the question is whether the dolphins should try to acquire lamar jackson and whew they need to get on that right now. RIGHT NOW.
------------------
Jaime Cruz-Morales@jcmlink
Lamar Jackson throwing to Tyreek Hill sounds pretty good, right?
Charles@Charles71415381
If Lamar leaves Baltimore he should go to the NFC but in Miami that offense might be historic,with atleast 3 playmakers on the field at all times and one is the QB.
Chris@MD10Chris
As a Patriots fan, the thought of Lamar tormenting them twice a year saddens me. But yeah, I don't see how Miami can move forward with Tua. He's possibly one more hit away from a traumatic brain injury.
No thanks...not looking to swap one injury headache for another yet alone with one that you need to switch up the entire offense for and wants a fully guaranteed mega contract. Only way I'd consider it is a fair market contract and that Lamar was willing to change his game and become more Mahomes or Allen in his approach so he hopefully stays healthy. I think he has the skills to do that but the question is does he want to?
Should I pull out the 59-10 drubbing he put on us opening Week a few years back?
Add the '22 game and Lamar Jackson and the Ravens have put up 97 points on the Miami Dolphins in just those 2 games
Let's keep an open mind because QBs like him don't come on the market often, he still may not be available depending on what Baltimore ultimately decides.
Fun to think about, chances are slim even if it were a perfect fit.
I understand your hesitation but he's a strong upgrade IMHO
I was a big fan when he went to Louisville.
MOP, I agree he is extremely talented but the truth is the past two years he has not stayed healthy and that is in large part due to his style of play. No way I look to give someone a fully guaranteed contract that you can see 13 or 14 games a year is probably all you are going to get out of them. That goes for Lamar, Tua or anyone. And that is what he (and the NFLPA) want, a Watson like deal. If he was willing to come on a 3 or 4 year deal like Carr just signed with maybe a little more signing bonus then sure I'm interested. But not at his asking price.
 
Surprising absolutely no one....

@AdamSchefter


Sources: Dolphins have informed CB Byron Jones that he is being released on March 15 and will have the opportunity to enter free agency. Dolphins will designate him a post-June 1 cut, saving Miami $13.6 million against its salary cap.
 
And this was with an owner being spanked half a season for collusion and a forfeit of a 1st Rd pick
Going all the way back to Incognito-Gate it's pretty shocking we ranked 2nd overall.
Some of it is the facility but I also think South Florida is a breath of fresh air for a lot of these players.
And the new coach must have built a new culture around there.
 
Surprising absolutely no one....

@AdamSchefter


Sources: Dolphins have informed CB Byron Jones that he is being released on March 15 and will have the opportunity to enter free agency. Dolphins will designate him a post-June 1 cut, saving Miami $13.6 million against its salary cap.
Good for Miami that they can release him March 15th and still get the luxury of the June 1st-cut
Good for Jones because he can start thinking about what his next move will be.
I also hope Jones takes more time off since he said he can't walk or jump, maybe that was an exaggeration and maybe not.
Jones still pocketed plenty of money from Miami, i hope he saved a lot of it.
 
Dolphins put all the QB talk to bed. (TFG) per Darlington tweet I can't currently link
This has been brought up in other threads.
I think it's great Miami is continuing to develop Tua and make him feel safe and secure
I also think Grier will publicly say that and still talk to Baltimore behind the scenes.

Miami would be highly risking things if they come right out and make an offer of say $200M guaranteed.
Ravens match it, now what? You have a pretty upset Tua and you are going to ask him to take the field for $4M this year, good luck with that.
This is a very dangerous game if Miami gets involved and i think they should.

I have nothing against Tua, but if I had a choice, yeah i'd take Lamar Jackson
I read a post about a team where Jackson could be a massive hit, the New England Patriots.
Belichick has wanted to run the ball 600 times a year for a while.and speaks highly of Lamar, always has.
They need to move past Brady and Cam Newton didn't work out.
How would you like to face him twice a year? I'm speaking to everyone
 
Surprising absolutely no one....

@AdamSchefter


Sources: Dolphins have informed CB Byron Jones that he is being released on March 15 and will have the opportunity to enter free agency. Dolphins will designate him a post-June 1 cut, saving Miami $13.6 million against its salary cap.
It needed a 2nd post

$26M, $14M and $14M, the Phins paid out to him last 3 years

Miami: -$14M ATC
Post BJ: -$1M ATC and we know other players will help them out.

Chubb: Almost $20M base salary, easy target to do the convert to bonus and I see a $10M cap relief here.
Ogbah: Base salary of $15M, another easy target to convert, wish they could trade him somehow
Baker: Post 6/1 +$8M for Miami to release him, easy to talk him into converting and assure him a roster spot.

Almost $30M right there, perhaps Hill would help the Phins out but Miami is not going to have a lot of money to sign free agents.
They need at least 1-2 RBs, a RT or LG would be wise depending on how they use Hunt, rumors he might switch to Right Tackle.
Miami also is going to need a starting Cornerback and perhaps more in that secondary.
 
Nice article by Barry Jackson https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/...rticle272745470.html#storylink=mainstage_lead

Skepticism about Dolphins’ Tagovailoa commitment growing tiresome. And it’s unwarranted​

Explain what you mean please
Is that from national pundits who always link Miami to Lamar Jackson?
Is that Tua's camp?
Am I to believe that is Ross and Grier?
Just trying to gauge how serious these reports are.
I think Miami is in the thick of it behind closed doors but Tua is fragile, can't let him know you might be interested in Jackson.
 
Healthy skepticism is fine; in fact, it’s encouraged in our profession. But with the Dolphins and their comments about Tua Tagovailoa, I’m not sure how we’ve arrived at this unhealthy place of distrust and suspicion and cynicism, where a handful of reporters decide that general manager Chris Grier’s words are not to be believed about his quarterback. Many team executives stretch the truth or fib, often by claiming decisions haven’t been made when they actually have been made. If the Dolphins start pursuing available quarterbacks, that would suggest that Grier was being dishonest when he said in no uncertain terms that the team is committed to Tagovailoa as their starter in 2023.

Our educated belief is that Grier was telling the truth and doesn’t plan to pursue any other starting quarterback; ESPN’s Jeff Darlington reported that on Tuesday. And yet, a few cynics keep questioning Grier’s words, and the predictable pattern of doubt has become tiresome. At the head of the pack is CBS HQ and former ESPN reporter Josina Anderson. Anderson said last week: “I’m told multiple people have been made aware within the Dolphins organization that the team will explore all options at quarterback.” To this point, that report has not been corroborated by anyone. I don’t believe it’s accurate.

Then there was this week’s offering from Rich Eisen, who reported what he termed a rumor that Tom Brady might come out of retirement again while adding “the one place that folks are saying to keep an eye out for is Miami.” Brady responded, on Twitter: “Anyone who thinks I have time to come back to the NFL has never adopted a 2 month old kitten for their daughter.” Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio also continues to openly wonder whether Brady will play for the Dolphins next season. On Wednesday, Florio wrote that it was “troubling” that the Dolphins won’t pursue Jackson. But why is it troubling? They cannot sign him to an offer sheet before the draft because they don’t have a first-round pick. And are they not allowed to prefer Tagovailoa to making any longshot, costly bid for Jackson? To those who say the Dolphins haven’t been honest about their quarterback plans in the past, I would disagree.
 
The Dolphins never publicly committed to Tagovailoa while they explored acquiring Deshaun Watson in October 2021. They never lied about interest in Watson. Watson’s attorney, Rusty Hardin, said the Dolphins wanted all of Watson’s accusers to settle lawsuits as a condition to a trade. Grier seemed to suggest that the Dolphins never demanded that, and it’s certainly conceivable that Grier wasn’t aware that owner Stephen Ross insisted on this stipulation, if true. But at no time, during the Watson flirtation, did the Dolphins say they were fully committed to Tagovailoa while secretly trying to replace him. Brian Flores also chose his words carefully on the topic, never issuing an outright denial about interest in Watson. “I don’t really get into rumors; Tua is our quarterback,” Flores said before the 2021 trade deadline. (And that wasn’t a lie.) What’s more, Grier acknowledged at the 2021 trade deadline that the Dolphins explored acquiring Watson.

And when they sent word 14 months ago that they weren’t making another bid to acquire Watson, that was truthful and accurate. At no time did the Dolphins rule out Brady publicly while courting him privately. My theory is that some reporters are manifesting their own doubts about Tagovailoa into skepticism about whether the Dolphins are being truthful when they discuss their commitment to him. ESPN continues to spend entire segments questioning if the Dolphins will really stick with Tagovailoa. Chris Canty, making assumptions that he shouldn’t, said the Dolphins “are not sure about our quarterback based on the health factor and [they want to] see what else is out there to be had in the marketplace. The only reason they’re not exercising Tua’s fifth year option immediately is because they’re not sold on him.”

Actually, not a single team has exercised its fifth-year option on any quarterback in the 2020 class. It’s commonplace for teams to wait until closer to the deadline. Since the fifth-year option was created in the 2011 CBA, there have been 175 instances of a team exercising a fifth-year option, and only three have happened in March. Pro Football Talk has said the Dolphins’ words regarding Tagovailoa are meaningless and their intentions will be revealed by their decision whether to exercise his 2024 option by the May 2 deadline. But that’s not entirely accurate. The Dolphins can still be fully committed to Tagovailoa for 2023 while choosing to delay a decision on 2024 because of durability concerns.

As ESPN’s Darlington correctly noted, “If they don’t pick up the fifth year option, you could make a case that look, we don’t expect him to play on the fifth year deal anyway. If he has a successful season, they’ll extend him after it no matter what. He won’t play on that fifth year. If he doesn’t, they can just move on. [Delaying the decision] is just prudent business.” Bottom line: When Grier discusses Tagovailoa, how about we believe what he says unless he gives us a reason not to believe him?
 
Tyreek Hill also restructured creating 18 million is cap space.
My goodness. Those cap hits after this next year. Woof.

New Cap Hits
2023: $12.8M
2024: $31M
2025: $34.2M
2026: $56.3M

Hill now holds $22.6M of dead cap in 2025.

Obviously no way this deal reaches 2026. He’ll either be cut with $22.6M of dead cap in 2025 or $11.3M of dead cap in 2026 or that money gets rolled into an extension.

Buffalo’s going to be forced into the same types of moves though over the next few days.
 
Tyreek Hill also restructured creating 18 million is cap space.
My goodness. Those cap hits after this next year. Woof.

New Cap Hits
2023: $12.8M
2024: $31M
2025: $34.2M
2026: $56.3M

Hill now holds $22.6M of dead cap in 2025.

Obviously no way this deal reaches 2026. He’ll either be cut with $22.6M of dead cap in 2025 or $11.3M of dead cap in 2026 or that money gets rolled into an extension.

Buffalo’s going to be forced into the same types of moves though over the next few days.

Dolphins all in for the next 2 - 3 years and then the bill will come due (or the salary cap will jump to the moon and everyone will be ok). Grove, I'll make a deal w you: Give the bills a SB win in the next three years and the Dolphins one too. I think even though we "hate" each other as a fan base, we would both take that in a heartbeat
 
Tyreek Hill also restructured creating 18 million is cap space.
My goodness. Those cap hits after this next year. Woof.

New Cap Hits
2023: $12.8M
2024: $31M
2025: $34.2M
2026: $56.3M

Hill now holds $22.6M of dead cap in 2025.

Obviously no way this deal reaches 2026. He’ll either be cut with $22.6M of dead cap in 2025 or $11.3M of dead cap in 2026 or that money gets rolled into an extension.

Buffalo’s going to be forced into the same types of moves though over the next few days.

Dolphins all in for the next 2 - 3 years and then the bill will come due (or the salary cap will jump to the moon and everyone will be ok). Grove, I'll make a deal w you: Give the bills a SB win in the next three years and the Dolphins one too. I think even though we "hate" each other as a fan base, we would both take that in a heartbeat
Absolutely 100%. Honestly, what sucks as a Bills fan is that they finally get good, but both the Jets and Dolphins suddenly look really good as well. Crazy how long the Patriots were able to glide along in a terrible division with very few threats along the way.
 
You can say a lot of things about Ross as an owner, but he is not shy about spending the cash.
Still doesn't erase or over come him pissing away and forfeiting our 1st Rd pick, being suspended for half a season in an era with Daniel Snyder who incredibly has not hit that mark yet, and not a single Playoff win under Stephen Ross steering the ship.

Let's not give him too much credit, please.
He's rich and doesn't know a nickel about football, of course he pays thru the nose and always has.
He tried to play South Florida for a new stadium and still crumpled and did it himself.

He is not a factor in anything that we might find right about the team, coach, QB, players, I can go on and on about all the mistakes this guy has made and continues to hamstring us.
 
You can say a lot of things about Ross as an owner, but he is not shy about spending the cash.
Still doesn't erase or over come him pissing away and forfeiting our 1st Rd pick, being suspended for half a season in an era with Daniel Snyder who incredibly has not hit that mark yet, and not a single Playoff win under Stephen Ross steering the ship.

Let's not give him too much credit, please.
He's rich and doesn't know a nickel about football, of course he pays thru the nose and always has.
He tried to play South Florida for a new stadium and still crumpled and did it himself.

He is not a factor in anything that we might find right about the team, coach, QB, players, I can go on and on about all the mistakes this guy has made and continues to hamstring us.
Yeah, you said the lot of things I referred to. Still, my point was he shells out the cash to the extent the cap doesn't really matter to his team.
 
Doing it so early to quiet the nonsense the talking heads keep pushing is wonderful
Agreed and we don't have to hear about contract extensions except if Tua decides to cause a stir over the summer.
Tua has been a good soldier, not gonna make up narratives but I still wonder how he takes the field for just $4M this year and 5th yr option.
Let's see the room temperature after Burrow, Hurts and Herbert land extension deals.
You're right, it was wise to do this before all that noise happens in the coming weeks.
 
If my calculations are right, Miami is currently $16M over the cap
If my calculations are right, Miami has as much as $60M+ they can free up by restructuring some if not all the following players and that's not even discussing our friend Byron Jones.
Hill, Chubb, Armstead, Ogbah, Baker, Wilson
You add in the Jones contract and the number could rise North of $70M-$75M so it will be interesting to see what they are able to do and then see how that allows them to become a buyer for certain positions or just simply finding some undervalued guys we can sign on the cheap.

I'm starting to see a path where a lot of our guys are back on Defense and perhaps even Jones is invited to stay with a restructuring.
If someone like a Fangio climbs on board and can get Chubb to the level we thought we were getting when we traded for him, that would change the defense a lot.
Howard-Jones-injury, N Needham perhaps back-injury, Kahou, Brandon Jones back-injury, Holland and a new Safety to take Eric Rowe's spot.
With a strong pass rush, strong IDL with WIlkins and Sieler, it should free up our playmakers and increase interceptions/turnovers by the defense
Get us some short fields and cheap points.

I think Miami will have anywhere from $25-$30M in cap space they can play with when free agency kicks in and I don't see them signing big names, they'll need some of this to extend Wilkins and perhaps some others.
Miami is currently $29M-$30M under the cap, that's an incredible swing of $42M+ when you factor in they were about $12M over.
And if my eyes are reading this correctly, Byron Jones and his big cap relief hasn't even kicked in yet. We could be about $45M under the salary cap, that's impressive.

I'm starting a shopping list but before I do, where are we at with some of the DBs coming back
Needham
Tril Williams
Brandon Jones
Xavien Howard
Byron Jones

Kohou and Crossen, where do they factor in? Crossen is due over $3m and none of it is guaranteed.
-I'm not sold on Brandon Jones at Safety but he's on the last year of his rookie deal, still that position could use an upgrade.
-I think Miami needs to lock in on a new starting Cornerback in free agency, not the guy who cost the most but a solid starter, likely hard to find.
Miami has done very well in free agency despite the Jones disaster at Cornerback.

Expanded shopping list coming...Right Tackle and possibly Left Guard although Grier was praising Robert Jones.
RJ Graded 49th/77 on PFF. $950k salary, pretty cheap if they wanted to pay that and then go sign another OL to come in and compete.
One note on the OL, Eric fisher is actually on the roster if you can believe it. I don't have much faith in him at this point but Miami must have a potential plan for him.
 

Kohou and Crossen, where do they factor in? Crossen is due over $3m and none of it is guaranteed.
-I'm not sold on Brandon Jones at Safety but he's on the last year of his rookie deal, still that position could use an upgrade.
-I think Miami needs to lock in on a new starting Cornerback in free agency, not the guy who cost the most but a solid starter, likely hard to find.
Miami has done very well in free agency despite the Jones disaster at Cornerback.
The question really comes down to Fangio's system. He is much more zone than man so the days of "cover zero" (and the CBs neded to run that) don't matter anymore (same thing goes for jones as a blitzing safety, but he is still on his rookie deal). I can see us taking a CB who we scratch our head over, who happens to be a perfect type for this defensive system (I'd even argue that Fangio's system isn't a perfect fit for X Howard, but he may be the type of player that trancends "system")
 
You can say a lot of things about Ross as an owner, but he is not shy about spending the cash.
Still doesn't erase or over come him pissing away and forfeiting our 1st Rd pick, being suspended for half a season in an era with Daniel Snyder who incredibly has not hit that mark yet, and not a single Playoff win under Stephen Ross steering the ship.

Let's not give him too much credit, please.
He's rich and doesn't know a nickel about football, of course he pays thru the nose and always has.
He tried to play South Florida for a new stadium and still crumpled and did it himself.

He is not a factor in anything that we might find right about the team, coach, QB, players, I can go on and on about all the mistakes this guy has made and continues to hamstring us.
Ross is making billions more in this latest real estate boom in Miami and Palm Beach. I doubt if he loses sleep over the first rounder that he cost his Dolphins. BUT, with pick 1.21 in 2023, we might've had our choice of the best TE, RB, or OG in the draft.

@Ministry of Pain , you were right about the Tua extension, months ago.
 

@Ministry of Pain , you were right about the Tua extension, months ago.
Dolphins haven't done anything yet in terms of Tua in my estimation. They simply 1) Put the lamar issue to rest once and for all and 2) picked up an option they were going to pick up no matter what.

I think McDaniel is "all in" on Tua. I think (to be honest) that is why he got the job in the first place and outside of injury (ok, its a big outside, but bear with me) Tua performed to McDaniels expectation when he was available. Miami scored in bunches, and gave the bills all they could handle in 3 games this year which, honestly, is what you need from this Miami team if they are going to compete in the AFC. EDIT to add: If Tua throws that ball away vs cinci instead of holding it forever and getting his bell rung who knows where we are right now.

Now, Miami has a 2 year window with Tua at the head of it. If they regress next year then the following year likely is the "tear down", If they excel then Tua's extension (much like Wilkins' contract) will be the Cap friendly moves that keep the contender afloat and the bill likely comes due about 2026. If Tua gets knocked out again, then Miami needs to see what they have in Skylar + whomever they bring in, but the 2024 draft has some good QBs and worst case scenario a Journeyman can come in and run this talented roster before the reset.

Assuming Fangio makes this D 20% better, and Tua stays healthy, I'm not sure how we aren't in the mix. We took every kind of "bad injury" hit last year and still made the playoffs.
 

Kohou and Crossen, where do they factor in? Crossen is due over $3m and none of it is guaranteed.
-I'm not sold on Brandon Jones at Safety but he's on the last year of his rookie deal, still that position could use an upgrade.
-I think Miami needs to lock in on a new starting Cornerback in free agency, not the guy who cost the most but a solid starter, likely hard to find.
Miami has done very well in free agency despite the Jones disaster at Cornerback.
The question really comes down to Fangio's system. He is much more zone than man so the days of "cover zero" (and the CBs neded to run that) don't matter anymore (same thing goes for jones as a blitzing safety, but he is still on his rookie deal). I can see us taking a CB who we scratch our head over, who happens to be a perfect type for this defensive system (I'd even argue that Fangio's system isn't a perfect fit for X Howard, but he may be the type of player that trancends "system")
How does Jalen Ramsey sound to you?
 
How does Jalen Ramsey sound to you?
Like he’ll get consistently burned by the AFC east instead of the NFC west?
You posted this twice or something along these lines and I wanted to just let it go because everyone deserves their POV, you root for SF and so you know him better than I do.

-That said, he ranks 3rd out of 118 DBs on PFF, that just does not gel/jive with what you are posting but I respect your opinion and I'm simply relaying stats and info.

All good
 
3rd rd pick & Hunter Long.
That seems dirt cheap

3rd Rd pick? We get him locked and loaded for 2 full years with X lined up opposite him, Fangio calling the defense, Grier's not playing games right now
I hate Chris Grier from a Draft stand point but I admire that he is aware of that and just trades the picks to get what he wants.
LG and RT, what is the plan? Get that ironed out Grier!
 
How does Jalen Ramsey sound to you?
Like he’ll get consistently burned by the AFC east instead of the NFC west?
You posted this twice or something along these lines and I wanted to just let it go because everyone deserves their POV, you root for SF and so you know him better than I do.

2 separate topics. Posted slightly different things.
-That said, he ranks 3rd out of 118 DBs on PFF, that just does not gel/jive with what you are posting but I respect your opinion and I'm simply relaying stats and info.

All good
I dunno what the stats show, but if you say so I believe you. I just think he’s lost a step. He used to be an absolute shut down corner. He can be got by younger, craftier WRs now. He sometimes takes bad angles. He isn’t a good tackler (and IIRC never really has been) so if he gets beat to the ball he can give up YAC.

Rankings are rankings - I don’t see him as the same caliber DB as his former self.

That all said, 80% of Ramsey is still better than a lot of cornerbacks, and ya never know - maybe Miami’s system is a better fit in their secondary than LAR for him.
 
3rd rd pick & Hunter Long.
That seems dirt cheap

3rd Rd pick? We get him locked and loaded for 2 full years with X lined up opposite him, Fangio calling the defense, Grier's not playing games right now
I hate Chris Grier from a Draft stand point but I admire that he is aware of that and just trades the picks to get what he wants.
LG and RT, what is the plan? Get that ironed out Grier!
Its a great move by Miami. Again, Ramey (much like X) are likely a little north of their prime but healthy they can definitely ball and can certainly battle the WRs in the AFC East. So, I guess Miami's next mission is a RT and some linebackers and a safety.

You can argue that you always would like the "cheaper" up and coming CB, but other than the guys at the top of the draft it usually takes a year or 2 before corners become "trustworthy"
 

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