2025 Philadelphia Eagles - Just keep throwing second-tier CB darts until one hits the bullseye is certainly a strategy. (63 Viewers)

[Bigboy10182000]

“Here's how badly Michael Carter II wanted to join the champs: Sources say he agreed to delete the $5M guaranteed for injury in his 2026 contract year to complete the trade to the Eagles”

This is how badly Michael Carter II has been this season . . . per PFF 111th out of 113 CBs.

Carter was drafted in 2021. After the 2023 season, he was widely praised as the best nickel in football. He signed an extension with the Jets that paid him as the best nickel in football.

He got a High Ankle Sprain in the 2024 off-season. He had a back injury in season that hampered him. He missed games and was gimpy.

This year, he missed Weeks 5, 6, 7 with a concussion. He’s played 145 snaps, and his numbers put him at the bottom of PFF grades in a couple of categories. PFF grades are crap, and if you don’t go granular on the info, very misleading.

The kid is a good corner- he didn’t suddenly become a liability. He might still be nursing some injuries. It might take him a minute grok Vic’s scheme. But, if Vic decides to play him, it means the drop off from Coop in the slot is significantly lower than the upside of Coop over Ringo/Jackson/Bennett at CB2.

Is it a homerun? Doubtful, but maybe.

Is it an upgrade? Likely.

Was it worth trading Jon Metchie, who was never gonna see the field? Definitely.

So we traded for an injury prone, slot corner who was good 2 years ago. Got it.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Here are Howie's trade deadline deals:

2023: Kevin Byard, Kentavious Street
2022: Robert Quinn
2021: Kay Vincent, Tay Gowan
2013: Isaac Sopoaga
2010: Mike Bell

Lotta hopes and dreams there that ended up being poo poo here.

Were you expecting Sauce Gardner back for Metchie?

When you make lower level trades like these you’re just looking for a better return. Given the need at CB the potential is there for that. He’s shown it in the past and maybe he lives up to some of it. If not, it cost you $1

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Im back from being suspended for 6 weeks cause someones feelings got hurt. Never again will i give the trolls anything at all but the ignore feature

6 weeks is intense. I got 3 days from comments in the Eagles/Giants thread. Welcome back.

All my life I have been told "Talk when you win one" and now we're on #2 and they just can't stand it. The hate for Eagles fans is real.

On cue, I guarantee someone is going to comment on me saying this just to try to get me banned again.

They just can't quit us.

In fairness saying something to the effect of “now we take their soul” immediately after their stud rookie RB had one of the most gruesome injuries might warrant a suspension. Maybe even more than 3 days? But woe is me lol.

This lol

I’m surprised it was only 3 days. That was something else

Rent free

I don’t even know what this means here

You are here.

You live here.

You don't pay us money.

AKA you are living in our thread rent free.

Hope that helps you out champ.

Just use the ignore feature, it’s great.

These same ones hate the Eagles, yet watch all their games. Just think about that for a minute. They have much bigger issues in real life.

 

[Terpman22]

Im back from being suspended for 6 weeks cause someones feelings got hurt. Never again will i give the trolls anything at all but the ignore feature

6 weeks is intense. I got 3 days from comments in the Eagles/Giants thread. Welcome back.

All my life I have been told "Talk when you win one" and now we're on #2 and they just can't stand it. The hate for Eagles fans is real.

On cue, I guarantee someone is going to comment on me saying this just to try to get me banned again.

They just can't quit us.

In fairness saying something to the effect of “now we take their soul” immediately after their stud rookie RB had one of the most gruesome injuries might warrant a suspension. Maybe even more than 3 days? But woe is me lol.

This lol

I’m surprised it was only 3 days. That was something else

Rent free

I don’t even know what this means here

You are here.

You live here.

You don't pay us money.

AKA you are living in our thread rent free.

Hope that helps you out champ.

Not very excellent.
You’re fortunate that I’m not like you and your “toughest fan base buddies” or youd be getting another time out

k

 

[Terpman22]

Im back from being suspended for 6 weeks cause someones feelings got hurt. Never again will i give the trolls anything at all but the ignore feature

6 weeks is intense. I got 3 days from comments in the Eagles/Giants thread. Welcome back.

All my life I have been told "Talk when you win one" and now we're on #2 and they just can't stand it. The hate for Eagles fans is real.

On cue, I guarantee someone is going to comment on me saying this just to try to get me banned again.

They just can't quit us.

In fairness saying something to the effect of “now we take their soul” immediately after their stud rookie RB had one of the most gruesome injuries might warrant a suspension. Maybe even more than 3 days? But woe is me lol.

This lol

I’m surprised it was only 3 days. That was something else

Rent free

I don’t even know what this means here

You are here.

You live here.

You don't pay us money.

AKA you are living in our thread rent free.

Hope that helps you out champ.

Just use the ignore feature, it’s great.

These same ones hate the Eagles, yet watch all their games. Just think about that for a minute. They have much bigger issues in real life.

The most talked about team on this board....by miles.

Some fanbases like to brag about "Tv ratings" bc ya know thats all they get these days. I guess thats sort of what this is. Just in font.

 

[Snotbubbles]

“Here's how badly Michael Carter II wanted to join the champs: Sources say he agreed to delete the $5M guaranteed for injury in his 2026 contract year to complete the trade to the Eagles”

This is how badly Michael Carter II has been this season . . . per PFF 111th out of 113 CBs.

Carter was drafted in 2021. After the 2023 season, he was widely praised as the best nickel in football. He signed an extension with the Jets that paid him as the best nickel in football.

He got a High Ankle Sprain in the 2024 off-season. He had a back injury in season that hampered him. He missed games and was gimpy.

This year, he missed Weeks 5, 6, 7 with a concussion. He’s played 145 snaps, and his numbers put him at the bottom of PFF grades in a couple of categories. PFF grades are crap, and if you don’t go granular on the info, very misleading.

The kid is a good corner- he didn’t suddenly become a liability. He might still be nursing some injuries. It might take him a minute grok Vic’s scheme. But, if Vic decides to play him, it means the drop off from Coop in the slot is significantly lower than the upside of Coop over Ringo/Jackson/Bennett at CB2.

Is it a homerun? Doubtful, but maybe.

Is it an upgrade? Likely.

Was it worth trading Jon Metchie, who was never gonna see the field? Definitely.

So we traded for an injury prone, slot corner who was good 2 years ago. Got it.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Here are Howie's trade deadline deals:

2023: Kevin Byard, Kentavious Street
2022: Robert Quinn
2021: Kay Vincent, Tay Gowan
2013: Isaac Sopoaga
2010: Mike Bell

Lotta hopes and dreams there that ended up being poo poo here.

Were you expecting Sauce Gardner back for Metchie?

When you make lower level trades like these you’re just looking for a better return. Given the need at CB the potential is there for that. He’s shown it in the past and maybe he lives up to some of it. If not, it cost you $1

I said in my post above that one, if we're trading for a player who was good once but isn't anymore we should have at least traded for a CB who plays the outside and not the slot, for example, Tariq Woolen. Now you're moving DeJean to a new position and you hope he'll be just as effective while putting a guy in DeJean spots who hasn't been very good in a couple years. The potential downgrade at slot, may not make up for any upgrade DeJean gets you on the outside. It's much better to get a minor upgrade on the outside and keep everything else the same. It's why when a lineman goes down, teams don't want to move guys around. Same principle.

 

[Terpman22]

“Here's how badly Michael Carter II wanted to join the champs: Sources say he agreed to delete the $5M guaranteed for injury in his 2026 contract year to complete the trade to the Eagles”

This is how badly Michael Carter II has been this season . . . per PFF 111th out of 113 CBs.

Carter was drafted in 2021. After the 2023 season, he was widely praised as the best nickel in football. He signed an extension with the Jets that paid him as the best nickel in football.

He got a High Ankle Sprain in the 2024 off-season. He had a back injury in season that hampered him. He missed games and was gimpy.

This year, he missed Weeks 5, 6, 7 with a concussion. He’s played 145 snaps, and his numbers put him at the bottom of PFF grades in a couple of categories. PFF grades are crap, and if you don’t go granular on the info, very misleading.

The kid is a good corner- he didn’t suddenly become a liability. He might still be nursing some injuries. It might take him a minute grok Vic’s scheme. But, if Vic decides to play him, it means the drop off from Coop in the slot is significantly lower than the upside of Coop over Ringo/Jackson/Bennett at CB2.

Is it a homerun? Doubtful, but maybe.

Is it an upgrade? Likely.

Was it worth trading Jon Metchie, who was never gonna see the field? Definitely.

So we traded for an injury prone, slot corner who was good 2 years ago. Got it.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Here are Howie's trade deadline deals:

2023: Kevin Byard, Kentavious Street
2022: Robert Quinn
2021: Kay Vincent, Tay Gowan
2013: Isaac Sopoaga
2010: Mike Bell

Lotta hopes and dreams there that ended up being poo poo here.

Were you expecting Sauce Gardner back for Metchie?

When you make lower level trades like these you’re just looking for a better return. Given the need at CB the potential is there for that. He’s shown it in the past and maybe he lives up to some of it. If not, it cost you $1

I said in my post above that one, if we're trading for a player who was good once but isn't anymore we should have at least traded for a CB who plays the outside and not the slot, for example, Tariq Woolen. Now you're moving DeJean to a new position and you hope he'll be just as effective while putting a guy in DeJean spots who hasn't been very good in a couple years. The potential downgrade at slot, may not make up for any upgrade DeJean gets you on the outside. It's much better to get a minor upgrade on the outside and keep everything else the same. It's why when a lineman goes down, teams don't want to move guys around. Same principle.

If they are confident in Coop playing outside, and I know Vic has a good eye for this stuff, I trust them to make it work. And if it comes down to matchups, Dejean is becoming so versatile that ya know, if we face a team that has a guy moving in/out, I'm confident Vic can find a way to either have Q shadow said WR if he's outside, or have Coop slide inside to cover.

Talking about guys coming up like

St Brown
Odunze
CD
Ladd/Allen

The rest of the way I just don't see certain teams that we'd have to worry about this *that* much like

Washington
Raiders
Green Bay
Washington again

So like half our remaining games, I'd be interested, in how this plays out.

We already saw what we can do to the Dallas #1 ranked passing offense, where we held them to 188 yards. CD went off, but Pickens had 3/30. Ho hum.

I'm excited to see what Vic can do with more tools in the belt. No way we got this Mike Carter guy without Vic saying "oh yeah baby"

 

[Bigboy10182000]

“Here's how badly Michael Carter II wanted to join the champs: Sources say he agreed to delete the $5M guaranteed for injury in his 2026 contract year to complete the trade to the Eagles”

This is how badly Michael Carter II has been this season . . . per PFF 111th out of 113 CBs.

Carter was drafted in 2021. After the 2023 season, he was widely praised as the best nickel in football. He signed an extension with the Jets that paid him as the best nickel in football.

He got a High Ankle Sprain in the 2024 off-season. He had a back injury in season that hampered him. He missed games and was gimpy.

This year, he missed Weeks 5, 6, 7 with a concussion. He’s played 145 snaps, and his numbers put him at the bottom of PFF grades in a couple of categories. PFF grades are crap, and if you don’t go granular on the info, very misleading.

The kid is a good corner- he didn’t suddenly become a liability. He might still be nursing some injuries. It might take him a minute grok Vic’s scheme. But, if Vic decides to play him, it means the drop off from Coop in the slot is significantly lower than the upside of Coop over Ringo/Jackson/Bennett at CB2.

Is it a homerun? Doubtful, but maybe.

Is it an upgrade? Likely.

Was it worth trading Jon Metchie, who was never gonna see the field? Definitely.

So we traded for an injury prone, slot corner who was good 2 years ago. Got it.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Here are Howie's trade deadline deals:

2023: Kevin Byard, Kentavious Street
2022: Robert Quinn
2021: Kay Vincent, Tay Gowan
2013: Isaac Sopoaga
2010: Mike Bell

Lotta hopes and dreams there that ended up being poo poo here.

Were you expecting Sauce Gardner back for Metchie?

When you make lower level trades like these you’re just looking for a better return. Given the need at CB the potential is there for that. He’s shown it in the past and maybe he lives up to some of it. If not, it cost you $1

I said in my post above that one, if we're trading for a player who was good once but isn't anymore we should have at least traded for a CB who plays the outside and not the slot, for example, Tariq Woolen. Now you're moving DeJean to a new position and you hope he'll be just as effective while putting a guy in DeJean spots who hasn't been very good in a couple years. The potential downgrade at slot, may not make up for any upgrade DeJean gets you on the outside. It's much better to get a minor upgrade on the outside and keep everything else the same. It's why when a lineman goes down, teams don't want to move guys around. Same principle.

Gotcha. I look at it like a no risk approach. IF Carter can see his true potential in our system and be a good slot and DeJean can be a stud outside CB it’s a huge upgrade

If not, it’s what we already have which hasn’t been bad as of late.

I also don’t see it the same as OL changing. DeJean has surly played a fair share of outside CB in practices.

 

[need2know]

also love where we are as a team right now. sitting comfortably in first and have a bye. dont even think we have played a complete game yet.

 

[Terpman22]

also love where we are as a team right now. sitting comfortably in first and have a bye. dont even think we have played a complete game yet.

really hoping Nolan Smith is close to coming back after the bye to team up with Myles Garrett

 

[DJackson10]

A rare in-season Saturday trade: the Ravens are sending former Pro-Bowl CB Jaire Alexander and a 2027 seventh-round pick to the Eagles in exchange for a 2026 sixth-round pick, per sources.

Per Scheftar

If they trade him they’re forfeiting the season, it ain’t happening

If they don’t and it’s a bigger issue then publicly let on it could derail the season anyway.

He's not getting traded this season. Maybe next season post-June 1, but not at the deadline. As said above, the dead money on a trade is too much.

He’s not getting traded, period. We won the SB so you can’t fire the coach or trade the QB. Next best clicker is the fractured relationship between the QB and WR. It’s tired.

It’s been going on for 2 yrs now the fractured relationship. It’s not clickbait. If BG had to publicly come out and say somethings it’s definitely not nothing.

It’s 100% clickbait

Again you didn’t answer my question though. Why would BG come out and Personally call out Hurts and Brown on a radio show he does while still on the team if it’s all just clickbait? You don’t do that unless there’s issues. All I’m saying is I won’t be shocked when Brown gets traded. It may not be in the next week and a half but this offseason I could see it

“I made a mistake and I assumed that it was something that it wasn’t. I just want to win so bad that I don’t just want to use the media when we need to talk about something and we can fix the problem ourselves. I didn’t add to it in a good light, so that’s my bad. I just assumed, and it made me out to look even worse because I had it all wrong and now people are going to run with that part. I really just want to win, man, and I want brothers to be able to just hash it out.”

That’s a direct quote from BG.

We live in a world where clicks and engagement matter. Without them there’s no business. This isn’t new. Like I said above, we can’t fire the coach or trade the QB. This is the next best thing.

BG was just saving PR face. This was a typical PR statement read.

There were reports prior to this of Hurts and AJ not getting along. BG knew what he was doing but the team felt it was better for BG to try and retract that.

At the end of the day you’ll believe whatever version entertains you. Just remember to like, click, subscribe and tune into the next show!

Im believing what im getting from sources people that’s being reported in the media as well. You can keep the green tinted glasses on and pretend everything’s all right. I chose not too. Either way it sounds like AJ won’t be an Eagle past this season. I’ll be shocked if he’s here start of training camp.

Reading the tea leaves is not “sources”. One of us has been able to walk into the Eagles locker room unstopped for 15 years and the other is you

If they trade him they’re forfeiting the season, it ain’t happening

If they don’t and it’s a bigger issue then publicly let on it could derail the season anyway.

He's not getting traded this season. Maybe next season post-June 1, but not at the deadline. As said above, the dead money on a trade is too much.

He’s not getting traded, period. We won the SB so you can’t fire the coach or trade the QB. Next best clicker is the fractured relationship between the QB and WR. It’s tired.

It’s been going on for 2 yrs now the fractured relationship. It’s not clickbait. If BG had to publicly come out and say somethings it’s definitely not nothing.

It’s 100% clickbait

Again you didn’t answer my question though. Why would BG come out and Personally call out Hurts and Brown on a radio show he does while still on the team if it’s all just clickbait? You don’t do that unless there’s issues. All I’m saying is I won’t be shocked when Brown gets traded. It may not be in the next week and a half but this offseason I could see it

“I made a mistake and I assumed that it was something that it wasn’t. I just want to win so bad that I don’t just want to use the media when we need to talk about something and we can fix the problem ourselves. I didn’t add to it in a good light, so that’s my bad. I just assumed, and it made me out to look even worse because I had it all wrong and now people are going to run with that part. I really just want to win, man, and I want brothers to be able to just hash it out.”

That’s a direct quote from BG.

We live in a world where clicks and engagement matter. Without them there’s no business. This isn’t new. Like I said above, we can’t fire the coach or trade the QB. This is the next best thing.

BG was just saving PR face. This was a typical PR statement read.

There were reports prior to this of Hurts and AJ not getting along. BG knew what he was doing but the team felt it was better for BG to try and retract that.

At the end of the day you’ll believe whatever version entertains you. Just remember to like, click, subscribe and tune into the next show!

If you believe that the locker room issues tied to whatever is going on between Jalen and Brown is just media contrived ********, I don’t know what to tell you. This is not a made up thing.

Where there’s smoke there’s fire on this one. Quoting BGs backtrack? Sounded more like PR spin then anything

It’s the same “smoke” for 2-3 years just blown back up when you need some clicks. Just remember click, like, share and subscribe!

Strange how odd it was there wasn’t much smoke last year. Oh that’s right, we were firing the coach and in your mind still need a QB lol

They were winning last year but there was problems already there. I guess you forgot AJ on the sideline vs ATlanta screaming at Jalen early in the year?

Did you read what you replied to or did you just wing it?

i did read what I replied to. Yes there were problems but like most times problems don’t pop up as often and oftened covered with things going well.

Heck Hugh Douglas reported texting players in the lockeroom who said there’s a problem and it was bad enough players didn’t want to talk about it. I think I’ll believe the guy who’s around the team a lot. I don’t think this is a let throw crap on a walk and hope it sticks.

 

[jasvic]

https://x.com/Eagles/status/1984734701223911831

We have agreed to acquire CB Jaire Alexander and a 2027 7th-round pick from the Ravens in exchange for a 2026 6th-round pick.

We have also placed S Marcus Epps and OLB Azeez Ojulari on Injured Reserve.

 

[Terpman22]

Just the 3rd CB we’ve traded for this year.

Prob would have been easier to just re sign one of the guys we let go

 

[DJackson10]

Im back from being suspended for 6 weeks cause someones feelings got hurt. Never again will i give the trolls anything at all but the ignore feature

6 weeks? Wow. Yeah I got suspended during Covid for a month here despite the other poster going so far out of line literally everyone else in the thread said something to poster for not being cool. We were both suspended but sometimes I don’t understand suspensions here and leangths

 

[DJackson10]

So I know everyone was like "No way we should have paid 3 1st for Micah, look at how great we draft!"

Does everyone feel the same about "not throwing 3 1st at Myles Garrett"?

Ain’t happening. Garret is older and I don’t think Howie would want to absorb his deal. I’d be shocked if MG is dealt. Just talk because Browns are horrible and probably unloading players for picks. That be a huge dead cap to take on

 

[DJackson10]

They also placed S Marcus Epps and OLB Azeez Ojulari on IR.

 

[jasvic]

Just the 3rd CB we’ve traded for this year.

Prob would have been easier to just re sign one of the guys we let go

I believe they expected Ringo would step up and tried to save cap for the eventual Carter deal. Though reports said they did try to keep Rodgers.

 

[DJackson10]

Today's move for Jaire Alexander is the Eagles' eighth trade since the beginning of August, and the third to bring in cornerback help.

 

[Terpman22]

Just the 3rd CB we’ve traded for this year.

Prob would have been easier to just re sign one of the guys we let go

I believe they expected Ringo would step up and tried to save cap for the eventual Carter deal. Though reports said they did try to keep Rodgers.

Oh I believe all of this too.

Hindsight 20/20 and all.

 

[DJackson10]

Parry Nickerson CB was released the other day.

Alexander trade tells we either teams are asking a lot on the market for CB or it’s not as good as some thought.

 

[DJackson10]

Per Russinni on a few trade rumors involving Eagles

• Cleveland star Myles Garrett is notgetting traded. Teams have checked in, but as one high-ranking source texted: “He’s a Brown and will remain a Brown.”
• Miami has received interest from the Eagles, 49ers, Patriots and others on OLB Jaelan Phillips (The Dolphins are looking for at least a third-rounder in return). They’re also getting calls on DE Bradley Chubb and OLB Matthew Judon.
• The Eagles need an edge rusher and asked the Jets about Jermaine Johnson. It makes sense, considering former Jets GM Joe Douglas drafted him in New York and is now Philly’s senior personnel director. However, New York has held a high asking price of a second-round pick or better.
• Many teams, including the Rams, 49ers, Lions, Colts and Eagles, have called the Bengals on numerous players, including LB Logan Wilson, CB Cam Taylor-Britt and, of course, DE Trey Hendrickson. For now, some teams don’t believe Cincinnati has any real interest in moving its core pieces.

On the Tush Push

Last call for the tush push?​

Eight weeks into 2025, we’ve finally found the Brotherly Shove’s kryptonite, and it’s not a defense (nice try, though, Brian Flores, with that unorthodox alignment).

It’s the officials.

Last offseason, the Packers submitted a proposal to outlaw the tush push, a play that the defending champion Eagles have perfected. The league came close to banning it, but with an assist from Jason Kelce’s impassioned in-person plea, teams ultimately voted in favor of keeping the play.

But eight weeks into this season, the thing that might actually kill the tush push is the league’s inability to officiate it properly.

As one high-ranking league source put it this week: “How embarrassing for the league to say we have to take away a totally legal play because we’re not good enough to officiate it.”

Don’t be surprised if this becomes one of the most hotly debated rule discussions of the offseason, again.

 

[need2know]

Im back from being suspended for 6 weeks cause someones feelings got hurt. Never again will i give the trolls anything at all but the ignore feature

6 weeks? Wow. Yeah I got suspended during Covid for a month here despite the other poster going so far out of line literally everyone else in the thread said something to poster for not being cool. We were both suspended but sometimes I don’t understand suspensions here and leangths

I didnt even curse him oit or anything directly. Said something about him being a troll and a giant turd. 6 weeks. Almost didnt come back honestly but i miss you guys

 

[unckeyherb]

Im back from being suspended for 6 weeks cause someones feelings got hurt. Never again will i give the trolls anything at all but the ignore feature

6 weeks? Wow. Yeah I got suspended during Covid for a month here despite the other poster going so far out of line literally everyone else in the thread said something to poster for not being cool. We were both suspended but sometimes I don’t understand suspensions here and leangths

I didnt even curse him oit or anything directly. Said something about him being a troll and a giant turd. 6 weeks. Almost didnt come back honestly but i miss you guys

Good to have you back!

 

[Bigboy10182000]

i did read what I replied to. Yes there were problems but like most times problems don’t pop up as often and oftened covered with things going well.

You didn’t read it or comprehend it.

Also, this may be news to you but we’re doing well this year lol. Oddly enough, we can’t fire the coach or trade the QB.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

https://x.com/Eagles/status/1984734701223911831

We have agreed to acquire CB Jaire Alexander and a 2027 7th-round pick from the Ravens in exchange for a 2026 6th-round pick.

We have also placed S Marcus Epps and OLB Azeez Ojulari on Injured Reserve.

Gotta hope you have one good player between him and Carter. If so, the DB’s are in great shape

 

[DJackson10]

Per Cameron Wolfe

Philadelphia Eagles would like to trade for Dolphins EDGE Jaelan Phillips at right price, per sources.

I’m told Vic Fangio thinks highly of Phillips from their year together in Miami (2023). He would help fill Eagles need for another pass rusher. x.com/cameronwolfe/s…