*** 2025 Pittsburgh Steelers: Steelers sign Mason Rudolph (13 Viewers)

[Steelers4Life]

An organization that consistently has coordinators that have the opportunity to become head coaches and assistant coaches who have the opportunity to become coordinators also tends to attract the more talented coaches too.

The Steelers culture lives off of a reputation that was earned a long time ago. Tomlin's inability to adjust and adapt and his lack of desire to hire a powerful up-and-coming coordinator on either side of the ball is going to hamstring the franchise for as long as he's in charge. Nothing is going to change next year either. Vets like Watt and Heyward deserve better.

The national media will overall continue to praise Tomlin, but you can start to feel a shift in that as they repeat the same struggles every year.

 

[menobrown]

Flores probably would be combative with Tomlin's beliefs, and that cannot happen, as we have learned over the years. Munchack, I thought he left for his family, thats tough to prevent with a few more dollars.

They would have had to fire Austin and promote Flores to retain him, which we'd have all been for I'm sure, but even then he might have left as he possibly would have preferred to be DC under and offensive minded coach and you are right on Munchak wanting to be near his daughter.

The staff obviously leaves a lot to be desired but I can't blame them for those two. I would blame them if they made no effort to retain them, but I don't know that.

On the issue of being cheap I'd bet my soul they are getting Arthur Smith at a discount. His contract with the Steelers happened to match exactly with the length of time he had left on his Falcons contract they are still paying him minus the offsets.

Khan has actually had 2 good drafts w the Steelers, and with Weidel with him, you have to think they are trying to do what Philly has done, build up strong O and D lines(5 OL picks the last 2 years, including 2 firsts), then sprinkle in some skill players. If Tomlin leaves them do their thing, this draft should be a good draft for Steelers, plenty of DL, RB and TE. They need 2 of those 3 badly

100% agreement with all of this.

 

[sm8680]

The Pittsburgh Steelers will not retain their former secondary coach Grady Brown after hiring a replacement.

Pittsburgh Steelers interview former Dallas Cowboys coach Scott McCurly for inside linebacker's coach role.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Is Rooney really so cheap that he won’t pay a coach with one year left on their contract when they need fired?

He is that cheap. I've actually lost a lot of respect for the Rooney's this past season. The only owner cheaper than Rooney's are the Brown's family. It's my personal opinion that the issue goes all the way up to the top.

Art is not Dan is the issue.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Everything's going to be okay. They replaced the ILB and DB coaches. Championship!

 

[steelers1080]

Is Rooney really so cheap that he won’t pay a coach with one year left on their contract when they need fired?

He is that cheap. I've actually lost a lot of respect for the Rooney's this past season. The only owner cheaper than Rooney's are the Brown's family. It's my personal opinion that the issue goes all the way up to the top.

Art is not Dan is the issue.

I thought you meant that Art is not the issue and that it's Dan Jr or Daniel Martin that's the issue, and I was like WHAT?! Dan Jr has been a pretty solid scout.

Then I realized you were saying Art is not Dan, and that's the issue. And I was like oh, yeah, 100%.

Also, it seems like Daniel Martin Rooney is being groomed as the next head, any scuttlebutt on how he's doing with the team? Is he actually good at football operations, or just a nepo.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Is Rooney really so cheap that he won’t pay a coach with one year left on their contract when they need fired?

He is that cheap. I've actually lost a lot of respect for the Rooney's this past season. The only owner cheaper than Rooney's are the Brown's family. It's my personal opinion that the issue goes all the way up to the top.

Art is not Dan is the issue.

I thought you meant that Art is not the issue and that it's Dan Jr or Daniel Martin that's the issue, and I was like WHAT?! Dan Jr has been a pretty solid scout.

Then I realized you were saying Art is not Dan, and that's the issue. And I was like oh, yeah, 100%.

Also, it seems like Daniel Martin Rooney is being groomed as the next head, any scuttlebutt on how he's doing with the team? Is he actually good at football operations, or just a nepo.

I just keep hearing how Art is cheap and am reminded that he was the heavy on drafting Pickett. Steelers are consistently laughed at for their crappy facilities. The small coaching and ancillary staff seems problematic as well. And I am not certain if that is Tomlin or Rooney wanting to not create new positions or departments.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Fields posted a random story tonight of him in his Steelers uniform

 

[karl.Racki]

Steelers are reportedly inquiring about Trevor Lawrence?

Not sure the Jags would deal TL, and I am not a huge TL fan, but he bee an upgrade over both Fields and Wilson, but he has a huge cap hit.. And what would the Steelers give up, I am sure a 1st would have to be given and not sure I would do that.

 

[karl.Racki]

Fields posted a random story tonight of him in his Steelers uniform

Looks like it meant he was leaving as he showed him from the back walking out?

 

[ThaPenguin]

Fields posted a random story tonight of him in his Steelers uniform

Looks like it meant he was leaving as he showed him from the back walking out?

This is how I took it too.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Steelers are reportedly inquiring about Trevor Lawrence?

Not sure the Jags would deal TL, and I am not a huge TL fan, but he bee an upgrade over both Fields and Wilson, but he has a huge cap hit.. And what would the Steelers give up, I am sure a 1st would have to be given and not sure I would do that.

No thank you. I don’t consider him in the elite category with the other top AFC QBs. Not worth giving up huge draft capital.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

Our 1st and 2nd round picks in this draft are quite obviously not enough to get a deal done for Lawrence.

A stupid offer, if true.

 

[sm8680]

Source: Steelers Never Called About Trevor Lawrence Trade​

 

[ThaPenguin]

Source: Steelers Never Called About Trevor Lawrence Trade​

How do you click on this? Don't completely get this new fangled FBG forum just yet.

 

[ThaPenguin]

Found it on X. Poni is so full of crap, what a black eye to the city he is.

 

[sm8680]

Sorry about that I added the link

 

[karl.Racki]

Found it on X. Poni is so full of crap, what a black eye to the city he is.

The original report came from a Jacksonville reporter..

 

[pghrob]

x.com

x.com

 

[crushedspirit]

They cut Preston Smith who proved to be a waste

 

[karl.Racki]

x.com

x.com

and it was on Jacksonville TV before a Big Ten reporter spewed it..

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

There is so much noise out there right now. I have seen trades of Stafford and Kupp as a package and individually being talked about -- not sure how much draft capital that would cost! Daniel Jones. Courtland Sutton. Deebo. Everyone is bored.

I feel like Kirk is the most likely WR still. I would not mind Jones as backup QB to Fields or Wilson. But I would not be trading picks -- we need youth.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

They cut Preston Smith who proved to be a waste

Wasn't he relatively productive in his limited snaps?

 

[steelers1080]

There is so much noise out there right now. I have seen trades of Stafford and Kupp being talked about -- not sure how much draft capital that would cost! Daniel Jones. Courtland Sutton. Deebo. Everyone is bored.

I feel like Kirk is the most likely WR still. I would not mind Jones as backup QB to Fields or Wilson. But I would not be trading picks -- we need youth.

If we sign Daniel Jones I will be pissed. The only way I won't lose my mind would be if he was signed for less than $4 million per year to be a backup. I think he's a fine backup, but he will never be a quality starter in this league.

And I agree that we really can't afford to be trading picks unless it's for players 27 or younger. Even then, I'd rather it be FAs and draft picks.

 

[steelers1080]

I think that letting Daniels walk could be a big mistake. I know that McCormick was drafted to be his replacement, but I think that having a solid vet next to Fautanu will help stabilize our line next year. McCormick was our worst graded offensive lineman this season. Not sure how much of that was because Jones was missing assignments, but either way the right side was playing poorly, and the left side wasn't much better. Seumalo was our 2nd highest rated, even though he wasn't great, and Frazier was by far our best.

I know Daniels was hurt bad this year, but he's just turning 28 in sept and probably still has at least 4-5 more great years. It's not the same level, but reminds me of when Washington F'd up with Trent Williams, let him walk, and he has had 5 stellar years with the 49ers. If we re-sign him and pair him with Fautanu, I think that our right side could be dominant, especially in the run game. I'm assuming that the Steelers give another shot to Jones at LT, but we might have screwed up his development too much already after 2 years.

 

[Godsbrother]

There is so much noise out there right now. I have seen trades of Stafford and Kupp being talked about -- not sure how much draft capital that would cost! Daniel Jones. Courtland Sutton. Deebo. Everyone is bored.

I feel like Kirk is the most likely WR still. I would not mind Jones as backup QB to Fields or Wilson. But I would not be trading picks -- we need youth.

If we sign Daniel Jones I will be pissed. The only way I won't lose my mind would be if he was signed for less than $4 million per year to be a backup. I think he's a fine backup, but he will never be a quality starter in this league.

And I agree that we really can't afford to be trading picks unless it's for players 27 or younger. Even then, I'd rather it be FAs and draft picks.

I’m not in favor of paying any veteran FA QB big money or a lucrative multi year deal.

Let’s build up the trenches and secondary now, maybe a second day WR and worry about QB next year.

 

[steelers1080]

More rumors that we're interested in Stafford. He's an expensive 37 year old QB. He's probably better than Wilson was last year, but he's probably going to decline sharply soon. The Rams aren't letting him go because he has many great years left.

We're not one top 15 QB away from a Super Bowl. A top 5 QB might get us there right now, but for a top 15 to do it we need help at a handful of roster spots.

 

[sm8680]

Steeler's will continue to be a middling team as long as the conservative play calling on offense continues. Also, the Steeler's have the most expensive defense as well as the oldest.

To me it appears that Matthew Stafford and the Rams are playing a game of chicken to determine his worth. Sounds like the Rams don't think he's a 50 million a year quarterback. Steelers don't have a receiver of Puka or Cooper status. Matthew will not come to Pittsburgh and play for a cold weather team. Supposedly the HC Sean and Matthew have a really good relationship.

The Rams were potentially one play away from beating the Eagles in the playoffs. As it turns out, Jalen Carter's season-saving sack prevented a Matthew Stafford TD pass. Will Philly's defense facing a third-and-two scenario and needing a stop, Matthew Stafford took a shotgun snap and surveyed the terrain. He was buried. THE BIG DAWG IS HUNGRY!

 

[steelcityman]

Who wants to leave LA for Pittsburgh, Cleveland, NY Giants? That makes no sense. Stafford has more than enough money that his great, great grandkids are set for life. LAR arent far off, they made the playoffs, have a good RB and elite WR, and a young defense that will get better. And its LA, warm, nice outside of the fires.
But as a Steelers fan, I hope he stays in LA. I hope the Steelers dont go down some rabbit hole like with Aiyuk last year. Just resign Fields. Sign a good CB in free agency. Maybe add a swing OT for depth. Then draft well, WR, DL, RB. If they can add those FAs, and hit those 3 positions in the draft, they will make the playoffs. How is signing Stafford, blowing $50M and draft picks going to be any better, and leaves you with nothing in 2 years. Would Pickens, Egbuka, R Wilson, Austin and Skoronek be a nice WR corps? I think so.

The fact this is even being discussed, or the names like Dan Jones, Rodgers, Jameis, Darnold, etc. for big money, when they can have Fields, who is ready to run that HS offense Artie Smith brings, is a scary thought. Can you imagine Tomlin telling Stafford to not throw over the middle? Could Khan and Weidel be that stupid? I'm afraid the Steelers will be the Penguins in 3 years, old aged stars, no young talent, losing always, and bragging about a couple draft picks in the future.

Being a Steeler fan, with the progression of know-it-alls on X, is insufferable. Every day its another QB they MUST sign. Or a WR, or a DB. Its exhausting.

 

[irish eyes]

Why the Steelers would even consider a big money QB or give up draft picks is baffling. They are so far away from competing with the upper echelon teams, not even remotely close.

 

[steelers1080]

Is there any chance we can sign Milton Williams?
If not, any benefit to giving Chase Young a shot?

 

[Grid71]

not getting caught up in the foolish click bait. haven't clicked on a single link about QB other than the one where Rooney said the stillers will likely bring back Russ or Fields but not both. going all zen drafting best ball teams while waiting to see what actual changes come to fruition.

my hope is the team focuses on building the trenches and increase capital for 2026 draft in Pittsburgh. would be insane to have the first pick in front of the hometown crowd and draft arch

 

[sm8680]

Is there any chance we can sign Milton Williams?
If not, any benefit to giving Chase Young a shot?

Yes, please on both. Both of these guys are better than Larry O whose gotta go! I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Dulac reports Khan meeting w/Naj's agent in Indy. 3 years 20 mil thrown out by talking heads. "Mike wants him." etc etc

They are gonna effing run this thing back after that epic fart noise at the end of '24. Im sure itll all work out THIS time though.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Steelers with $60MM in cap space.

Also voted one of the worst owners and facilities again. The stinging part is Rooney given poor marks for his impact on Culture. Tomlin rated highly again, making him really the SOLE recruiting tool.

 

[irish eyes]

Dulac reports Khan meeting w/Naj's agent in Indy. 3 years 20 mil thrown out by talking heads. "Mike wants him." etc etc

They are gonna effing run this thing back after that epic fart noise at the end of '24. Im sure itll all work out THIS time though.

Let them run it back & hopefully it will implode in epic proportions. Why they would ever waste that kind of money on him is mystifying. But it's how they work now.

 

[sm8680]

The Pittsburgh Steelers are facing a crucial offseason, one that promises both challenges and opportunities. The offensive line, long a point of concern, is expected to be healthier and more robust next season. A healthier line should pave the way for improved offensive consistency and protection for the quarterback.

However, it may be in Najee Harris's best interest to seek opportunities elsewhere, much like James Conner did. Najee's talent and potential could be better utilized in a different environment, allowing him to reach new heights in his career.

The Steelers also need a massive overhaul in leadership, which includes a reevaluation of the roles of owners, the front office, and the coaching staff. Fresh perspectives and new strategies could rejuvenate the team’s dynamics and foster a winning culture.

An influx of player talent is equally critical. With an aging and expensive defense, it's imperative to infuse younger, more affordable players who can bring energy and innovation to the field. This blend of new talent and veteran experience could create a formidable roster.

In summary, the path to resurgence for the Steelers involves a multi-faceted approach: strengthening the offensive line, making tough decisions about key players like Najee Harris, revamping leadership, and investing in young talent. The upcoming season holds promise if these steps are carefully executed.

 

[sm8680]

Wow the newly hired for 2024 Strength coaches for the Steelers were given a c-. Mike Tomlin might have made one of his worst hires ever. I honestly don't know how a head coach who lost 5 games in a row receives an A. But if you look a lot of the head coaches received really good scores. Steelers share practice facilities with Pitt. I could be wrong, but the Carolina Panthers share practice facilities with Wolford College. But not for too long. The Rooney's come off like the Bengal's Brown's family.

If I were a Steeler, I wouldn't be thrilled about sharing the facility with Pitt. It feels like having middle schoolers sharing the high school facilities. It's beneficial for Pitt and the younger students, but not so much for the high schoolers and the pros.

 

[crushedspirit]

The marks for those facilities are just embarrassing. Tomlin seems like the only reason anyone would want to sign with them.

The treatment of families is 26th out of 32 teams. Is that a selling point? Strength coaches dead last, ouch. Ownership being 28th seems about right though.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

That is at least the third year in a row that their facilities and family stuff have been kicked in the nuts on this thing.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The strength coach is allegedly to blame for Wilson’s calf and Seamalu’s injury as well, which apparently lead to some confrontations.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

The strength coach is allegedly to blame for Wilson’s calf and Seamalu’s injury as well, which apparently lead to some confrontations.

This is the guy they "Matt Canada'd" , yeah? Hired the dude cuz he had a relationship of some sort with Mikey T's kid?

Seems like the team should stop going to Dino for recruitment advice.

 

[ThaPenguin]

The Pittsburgh Steelers are facing a crucial offseason, one that promises both challenges and opportunities. The offensive line, long a point of concern, is expected to be healthier and more robust next season. A healthier line should pave the way for improved offensive consistency and protection for the quarterback.

However, it may be in Najee Harris's best interest to seek opportunities elsewhere, much like James Conner did. Najee's talent and potential could be better utilized in a different environment, allowing him to reach new heights in his career.

The Steelers also need a massive overhaul in leadership, which includes a reevaluation of the roles of owners, the front office, and the coaching staff. Fresh perspectives and new strategies could rejuvenate the team’s dynamics and foster a winning culture.

An influx of player talent is equally critical. With an aging and expensive defense, it's imperative to infuse younger, more affordable players who can bring energy and innovation to the field. This blend of new talent and veteran experience could create a formidable roster.

In summary, the path to resurgence for the Steelers involves a multi-faceted approach: strengthening the offensive line, making tough decisions about key players like Najee Harris, revamping leadership, and investing in young talent. The upcoming season holds promise if these steps are carefully executed.

Thanks ChatGPT.

 

[ThaPenguin]

Isn't the buzz that they are purposefully neglecting the stadium to push for a new one?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Isn't the buzz that they are purposefully neglecting the stadium to push for a new one?

That is one thought. The other is that the Rooney's sole income is really the Steelers and they cannot compete with these billionaire owners and private equity types and are just tight with money for the longevity of the family.

 

[pghrob]

Isn't the buzz that they are purposefully neglecting the stadium to push for a new one?

That is one thought. The other is that the Rooney's sole income is really the Steelers and they cannot compete with these billionaire owners and private equity types and are just tight with money for the longevity of the family.

Not good enough of a competitive strategy in an industry built on the need to produce a winning product in performance driven competitive athletic industry. They will become NFL version of the Pittsburgh Pirates if they continue on their current path.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

This is the draft that will turn the team around:

21. Derrick Harmon - DT Oregon
52. Elic Ayomanor - WR Stanford
83. Darius Alexander - DT Toledo
122. Cameron Skattebo - RB Arizona State
163. Jacob Parrish - CB Kansas State
225. Cody Simon - LB Ohio State
238. Glendon Miller - S Maryland
247. Bryson Nesbit - TE North Carolina


Edited my 225 pick, as I forgot I had already taken 2 DTs.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Isn't the buzz that they are purposefully neglecting the stadium to push for a new one?

That is one thought. The other is that the Rooney's sole income is really the Steelers and they cannot compete with these billionaire owners and private equity types and are just tight with money for the longevity of the family.

Not good enough of a competitive strategy in an industry built on the need to produce a winning product in performance driven competitive athletic industry.

And it's particularly bull excrement when you consider that they are sharing revenues from the league....which is essentially a money printing enterprise.

They could spend whatever they wished to update/upgrade whatever they wanted and I doubt seriously it'd effect the "longevity of the family wealth." They almost certainly just prefer that tax payers foot the bill for them...as they did last time.

 

[Grid71]

This is the draft that will turn the team around:

21. Derrick Harmon - DT Oregon
52. Elic Ayomanor - WR Stanford
83. Darius Alexander - DT Toledo
122. Cameron Skattebo - RB Arizona State
163. Jacob Parrish - CB Kansas State
225. Cody Simon - LB Ohio State
238. Glendon Miller - S Maryland
247. Bryson Nesbit - TE North Carolina


Edited my 225 pick, as I forgot I had already taken 2 DTs.

Double tap DL early is great. Have to get younger on D overall.

Skattebo is a favorite of mine despite his lack of top end speed. I won’t utter the words of who I think he comps to but it’s a good one.

Second round pick is the only one I don’t like for the Steelers. It’s a rough year to need WR. Ayomanor is just too raw to be effective year 1. Seems like more of a project to develop. Death knell, Pittsburgh coaches aren’t great at developing talent. Strength and conditioning coach injured Russ doing sled drills???? Realistically need Omar to bring in FA talent and maybe draft a long shot late. If we do need a starter via draft, Royals (zone beater) or Bech are better options out wide opposite Pickens.

 

[menobrown]

@JosinaAnderson



Still here in Indy at the Scouting Combine having conversations. Sounds like tje #Steelers are going to have some interesting changes.Will keep you posted.