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2025 Team Defense & Defense by Committee Thread (7 Viewers)
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ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Streaming options available for me this week are Cinci, Minnesota and KC. Maybe Miami or GB if I'm desperate.
Cinci seems to be the chalk pick, but I'm kind of leaning toward Minny because they're most likely to win. On the other hand, looking forward to the next week, there are no obvious streaming candidates. Cinci is on bye and Minny plays Bufffalo, while KC gets Jax (followed by LAC/LAR). So that would argue in favor of the Chiefs, especially if Tannehill sits again
Cinci seems to be the chalk pick, but I'm kind of leaning toward Minny because they're most likely to win. On the other hand, looking forward to the next week, there are no obvious streaming candidates. Cinci is on bye and Minny plays Bufffalo, while KC gets Jax (followed by LAC/LAR). So that would argue in favor of the Chiefs, especially if Tannehill sits again
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
MIA trades: ⁃2023 1st (SF pick) ⁃2024 4th ⁃RB Chase Edmonds
DEN trades: ⁃OLB Bradley Chubb ⁃2025 5th
DocHolliday
Footballguy
That stinks for the Denver D.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Forced fumbles, sacks, very disruptive player
Kudos to Miami they’re going for it - supposedly expect to sign him LT
Pietaster2
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Defenses that started out bad but are playing better now: NYJ and TEN. Defenses that improved a lot at the trade deadline: BAL and MIA.
DEN just lost Bradley Chubb, but DE Dre'mont Jones just won defensive player of the week, rookie OLB Nik Bonitto is getting more rotation snaps, Baron Browning and Randy Gregory (who had an excellent start before getting hurt) should be back mid-month. Browning and Jacob Martin are both Top Ten in QB pressure percentage. Still plenty of guys to bring the pressure on the Broncos, and Surtain is an excellent shutdown corner.
DEN just lost Bradley Chubb, but DE Dre'mont Jones just won defensive player of the week, rookie OLB Nik Bonitto is getting more rotation snaps, Baron Browning and Randy Gregory (who had an excellent start before getting hurt) should be back mid-month. Browning and Jacob Martin are both Top Ten in QB pressure percentage. Still plenty of guys to bring the pressure on the Broncos, and Surtain is an excellent shutdown corner.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I like the call and would be curious if any SEA fans have any input, have not caught a game this year.
robb
Footballguy
Any updates to this amazing chart you provided??
Pietaster2
Footballguy
I started the Seahawks over Cincy on a last minute whim. 1FF, 1FR, 5Sacks was pretty solid against a decent Cardinals offense (gave me 13 points in my Yahoo league and 8 in my Sleeper league).
Looking forward to seeing how they do against TB next week, which hasn't scored more than 22 points in the past five games. Will hold them through the bye if they do well next week, because that remaining schedule is pretty juicy.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Anyone else picking up NY Jets while they're on their bye?
I have Patriots so def not dropping them, need Broncos to cover the Pats bye.
Pats / Jets are 1-2 in our scoring format over the last 4 weeks. Don't have room to carry 3 DTs but Jets are legit - did a nice job vs Bills at home yesterday (Diggs has 1 target and no receptions in the 2nd half.)
IND probably the best matchup for any DT this year. NE had 9 sacks, 7 three n outs, pick 6, blocked kick, held them to 121 yards and 3 points. Nice getting 37.50 from your DT lol (best FF pts of the year in our league; Pats vs DET WK 5 was 3rd best of the year.)
I have Patriots so def not dropping them, need Broncos to cover the Pats bye.
Pats / Jets are 1-2 in our scoring format over the last 4 weeks. Don't have room to carry 3 DTs but Jets are legit - did a nice job vs Bills at home yesterday (Diggs has 1 target and no receptions in the 2nd half.)
IND probably the best matchup for any DT this year. NE had 9 sacks, 7 three n outs, pick 6, blocked kick, held them to 121 yards and 3 points. Nice getting 37.50 from your DT lol (best FF pts of the year in our league; Pats vs DET WK 5 was 3rd best of the year.)
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
will post Tuesday if I remember
VikingFrog
Footballguy
If for whatever reason the Saints got dropped or are on your wire. And you are in a yahoo league.
They are a nice pickup before tonight’s game, as they play Pitt next week.
If you are streaming defense, can add a waiver flyer for your other defense when waivers run.
They are a nice pickup before tonight’s game, as they play Pitt next week.
If you are streaming defense, can add a waiver flyer for your other defense when waivers run.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Exactly what I did with NE on a bye. I noticed NO had a good matchup against PIT. After watching them play last night... well, team overall doesn't inspire me. They do rush well / pressure the QB and play decent D, and it was Lamar, but they gave up lots of long yard plays. Might pivot off of NO to other choices to consider: NYG (HOU), TEN (DEN), LV (IND). Idk yet. Definitely keeping NE in one league and back to just DAL in another.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
| Tackles | Turnovers | TD | Miscellaneous | Ret | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rank | Team | Pts vs. | Sack | Safe | TFL | Int | Fum Rec | TD | Blk Kick | 4 Dwn Stops | Yds Allow | 3 And Outs | TD | Pts Against |
| 1 | Los Angeles Rams vs DEFs | 16.9 | 3.4 | 0.1 | 4.7 | 1.1 | 0.7 | 0.6 | 0.3 | 0.3 | 297.4 | 2.4 | 0.0 | 16.39 |
| 2 | Indianapolis Colts vs DEFs | 16.1 | 3.3 | 0.0 | 5.3 | 1.1 | 0.9 | 0.1 | 0.0 | 0.6 | 339.4 | 2.3 | 0.0 | 13.44 |
| 3 | Pittsburgh Steelers vs DEFs | 14.3 | 2.6 | 0.0 | 4.4 | 1.3 | 0.5 | 0.1 | 0.0 | 0.4 | 299.0 | 3.5 | 0.0 | 13.09 |
| 4 | Chicago Bears vs DEFs | 19.4 | 3.9 | 0.0 | 5.5 | 0.8 | 0.8 | 0.1 | 0.0 | 0.8 | 315.3 | 2.6 | 0.0 | 12.81 |
| 5 | Washington Commanders vs DEFs | 17.5 | 3.3 | 0.1 | 4.9 | 1.0 | 0.3 | 0.1 | 0.0 | 0.9 | 331.0 | 2.6 | 0.0 | 12.53 |
| 6 | Denver Broncos vs DEFs | 14.9 | 3.0 | 0.0 | 4.9 | 0.6 | 0.5 | 0.1 | 0.1 | 0.8 | 328.9 | 3.4 | 0.0 | 12.03 |
| 7 | Carolina Panthers vs DEFs | 17.5 | 2.6 | 0.0 | 4.3 | 0.8 | 0.4 | 0.3 | 0.0 | 0.8 | 297.6 | 3.0 | 0.0 | 11.81 |
| 8 | Houston Texans vs DEFs | 16.6 | 2.3 | 0.0 | 5.0 | 0.9 | 0.1 | 0.1 | 0.0 | 0.7 | 288.7 | 2.9 | 0.0 | 11.54 |
| 9 | Green Bay Packers vs DEFs | 17.1 | 2.1 | 0.0 | 4.3 | 0.5 | 0.8 | 0.3 | 0.3 | 1.1 | 339.9 | 1.8 | 0.0 | 11.19 |
| 10 | New Orleans Saints vs DEFs | 24.9 | 1.9 | 0.0 | 3.1 | 1.1 | 0.9 | 0.5 | 0.1 | 0.4 | 394.4 | 2.5 | 0.0 | 11.16 |
| 11 | Tennessee Titans vs DEFs | 18.0 | 2.4 | 0.0 | 4.9 | 0.6 | 0.7 | 0.1 | 0.0 | 0.1 | 285.6 | 2.9 | 0.0 | 11.07 |
| 12 | Detroit Lions vs DEFs | 24.4 | 1.9 | 0.0 | 3.1 | 0.9 | 0.7 | 0.4 | 0.0 | 1.6 | 394.9 | 1.6 | 0.0 | 11.00 |
| 13 | Arizona Cardinals vs DEFs | 19.8 | 2.5 | 0.0 | 6.1 | 0.8 | 0.3 | 0.1 | 0.0 | 1.4 | 347.1 | 2.1 | 0.0 | 10.59 |
| 14 | New England Patriots vs DEFs | 20.6 | 2.3 | 0.0 | 5.3 | 1.3 | 0.8 | 0.1 | 0.0 | 0.5 | 334.5 | 2.0 | 0.0 | 10.56 |
| 15 | Cincinnati Bengals vs DEFs | 23.3 | 3.8 | 0.0 | 5.3 | 0.8 | 0.5 | 0.1 | 0.1 | 0.9 | 349.0 | 2.1 | 0.0 | 10.50 |
| 16 | San Francisco 49ers vs DEFs | 20.5 | 2.1 | 0.3 | 4.6 | 0.8 | 0.8 | 0.1 | 0.3 | 0.6 | 356.6 | 0.9 | 0.0 | 10.09 |
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
| 17 | New York Giants vs DEFs | 20.4 | 3.1 | 0.1 | 6.0 | 0.4 | 0.6 | 0.0 | 0.1 | 0.5 | 320.6 | 2.3 | 0.0 | 9.88 |
| 18 | New York Jets vs DEFs | 21.8 | 2.4 | 0.0 | 4.1 | 1.0 | 0.5 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.8 | 338.1 | 3.3 | 0.0 | 9.53 |
| 19 | Las Vegas Raiders vs DEFs | 21.6 | 2.4 | 0.0 | 4.7 | 0.7 | 0.1 | 0.1 | 0.0 | 0.4 | 340.9 | 1.7 | 0.0 | 9.18 |
| 20 | Jacksonville Jaguars vs DEFs | 20.8 | 1.5 | 0.0 | 4.8 | 0.8 | 0.8 | 0.0 | 0.1 | 1.3 | 363.0 | 1.9 | 0.0 | 8.63 |
| 21 | Seattle Seahawks vs DEFs | 24.8 | 2.4 | 0.1 | 5.3 | 0.5 | 0.9 | 0.1 | 0.0 | 0.5 | 352.1 | 1.5 | 0.0 | 8.44 |
| 22 | Los Angeles Chargers vs DEFs | 23.1 | 1.4 | 0.0 | 4.4 | 0.6 | 0.4 | 0.1 | 0.0 | 1.4 | 368.3 | 2.6 | 0.0 | 8.25 |
| 23 | Miami Dolphins vs DEFs | 21.5 | 2.1 | 0.3 | 4.5 | 0.9 | 0.4 | 0.0 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 380.6 | 1.8 | 0.1 | 8.25 |
| 24 | Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs DEFs | 17.5 | 1.6 | 0.0 | 3.8 | 0.1 | 0.8 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.5 | 332.9 | 2.6 | 0.0 | 7.88 |
| 25 | Minnesota Vikings vs DEFs | 24.7 | 2.0 | 0.0 | 3.7 | 0.7 | 0.3 | 0.0 | 0.3 | 0.3 | 345.7 | 3.1 | 0.0 | 7.50 |
| 26 | Cleveland Browns vs DEFs | 24.3 | 2.0 | 0.0 | 3.4 | 0.8 | 0.8 | 0.0 | 0.3 | 0.8 | 385.8 | 1.8 | 0.0 | 7.47 |
| 27 | Atlanta Falcons vs DEFs | 24.0 | 2.4 | 0.0 | 4.4 | 0.8 | 0.5 | 0.0 | 0.1 | 0.1 | 320.8 | 1.3 | 0.0 | 7.22 |
| 28 | Dallas Cowboys vs DEFs | 21.4 | 1.5 | 0.0 | 3.5 | 0.6 | 0.3 | 0.0 | 0.1 | 0.5 | 322.1 | 2.1 | 0.0 | 6.94 |
| 29 | Baltimore Ravens vs DEFs | 26.0 | 2.1 | 0.0 | 4.5 | 0.8 | 0.4 | 0.0 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 359.4 | 1.5 | 0.0 | 6.50 |
| 30 | Philadelphia Eagles vs DEFs | 27.1 | 2.6 | 0.1 | 5.7 | 0.3 | 0.0 | 0.1 | 0.1 | 0.6 | 395.4 | 1.3 | 0.0 | 5.93 |
| 31 | Buffalo Bills vs DEFs | 27.9 | 1.6 | 0.0 | 3.3 | 0.9 | 0.9 | 0.0 | 0.3 | 0.6 | 430.6 | 1.4 | 0.0 | 5.39 |
| 32 | Kansas City Chiefs vs DEFs | 30.7 | 1.7 | 0.0 | 3.6 | 0.7 | 0.4 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.3 | 403.3 | 1.4 | 0.0 | 3.46 |
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
That's most FF points allowed to defenses in our scoring format.
Many leagues don't account for Yards Allowed, Tackles For Loss, 4th Down Stops, 3 And Outs, et al.
Many leagues don't account for Yards Allowed, Tackles For Loss, 4th Down Stops, 3 And Outs, et al.
| Defense/Special Teams | League Value |
|---|---|
| Sack | 1 |
| Interception | 2 |
| Fumble Recovery | 2 |
| Touchdown | 6 |
| Safety | 2 |
| Block Kick | 2 |
| Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns | 6 |
| Points Allowed 0 points | 10 |
| Points Allowed 1-6 points | 7 |
| Points Allowed 7-13 points | 4 |
| Points Allowed 14-20 points | 1 |
| Points Allowed 21-27 points | 0 |
| Points Allowed 28-34 points | -1 |
| Points Allowed 35+ points | -4 |
| 4th Down Stops | 1 |
| Tackles for Loss | 0.25 |
| Defensive Yards Allowed - Negative | 10 |
| Defensive Yards Allowed 0-99 | 7 |
| Defensive Yards Allowed 100-199 | 4 |
| Defensive Yards Allowed 200-299 | 1 |
| Defensive Yards Allowed 300-399 | 0 |
| Defensive Yards Allowed 400-499 | -1 |
| Defensive Yards Allowed 500+ | -4 |
| Three and Outs Forced | 0.50 |
| Extra Point Returned | 2 |
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
he was in pads yesterday
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I'm trying to decide if I want to continue with the Broncos as my 1B to the Pats or take the flavor of the week on the other side of the matchup (Titans.)
These should be available in most leagues and have good matchups Week 10:
Giants vs HOU
Titans vs DEN
Saints at PIT
Cardinals at LAR
These should be available in most leagues and have good matchups Week 10:
Giants vs HOU
Titans vs DEN
Saints at PIT
Cardinals at LAR
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
NE on bye and yes, these are 4 of 5 choices available. Add LV vs IND. Currently added NO, but open to a change.
Tenn quietly with 55 points last 4 games in my league --may pair them up with Bills -- they have Hou and Jags in playoffs
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Leagues still do 14-16? Huh, I thought everyone adjusted to 15-17 last year.
Dah --you're right 15-17, so @LAC, HOU, DAL --- so meh
BUF was good to start the year, and with White coming back, I thought they'd be a keeper for the entire year. With the potential loss of Allen, and jnjuries, I'll take a closer look at the work of @BobbyLayne.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
DAL set for ROS likely
NE on a bye (definite hold through the bye week)
picked up NO @ PIT
dropped NO just now for NYG vs HOU
Just felt Giants at home coming off a bye refreshed with a winning record.
NE on a bye (definite hold through the bye week)
picked up NO @ PIT
dropped NO just now for NYG vs HOU
Just felt Giants at home coming off a bye refreshed with a winning record.
Yeah, I grabbed the Giants. Liked their playoff schedule.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
MIN was (understandably) dropped in league. At BUF this week, DAL next. Thereafter looks solid matchup wise.
Middle of the pack on the season, Top 7 over the last 4 weeks (3 g,)
Middle of the pack on the season, Top 7 over the last 4 weeks (3 g,)
- DT 6
- DT 19
- DT 30
- DT16
- DT 16
- DT 5
- BYE
- DT 8
- DT 12
- @ BUF
- NE
- NYJ
- @ DET
- IND
- NYG
- @ GB
- @ CHI
MCFootball123
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I’m mulling over trading NE to the first place team for BAL. Much better SOS and they pair perfectly with DEN ying/yang wise. We’re both 7-2 and he is probably gonna ride DAL most weeks. Pats have had a couple monster weeks at home - 29.25 vs DET and 37.50 vs IND.
Have to mask my intentions by packaging the bye week DTs in a trade with position players.
I dropped NE defense today. Schedule is awful going forward.
Pietaster2
Footballguy
I shifted away from Seattle to Denver in my main league. I just like the match-up if Malik Willis starts again, or a dinged up Tannehill with a bum ankle. The lowly Chiefs D held Tennessee to 17 points last week, and Denver's defense is supposed to be "elite," even if they don't score many fantasy points. Chubb leaving doesn't seem like it will affect the Broncos too much in what should be a very low scoring game (38.5 point over/under).
If this works out, I'll hold for two more weeks since the Broncos play at home vs the Raiders and then at Carolina and then figure out my playoff plans after I drop them in week 13.
If this works out, I'll hold for two more weeks since the Broncos play at home vs the Raiders and then at Carolina and then figure out my playoff plans after I drop them in week 13.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
How much do you bump up the Min DEF if Josh Allen doesn't play? I have Tenn in my lineup now (vs. Den) but Min vs a backup QB could be tempting.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I’m debating between Denver and NO and am leaning towards Denver as well. My concern is that Henry is not stoppable.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Personally I’d roll with TEN regardless. Case is competent. Just hasn’t played in 3 years.
