4 Round Mock draft 04/20/2013 (1 Viewer)

[a_rackowski]

Instead of posting reasoning behind each pick I thought it would be more fun to take feedback and TRY to explain at the end. I dont think my mock is any better than anyone else, some guys like March Madness Brackets and some guys like Mock drafts. I think that there will be a record number of trades this year, but I just tried to predict the big ones - which I know is usually bad practice. Team1 Chiefs - Luke Joeckel OT2 Jaguars **TRADE WITH DOLPHINS - JAGS get 12, 42, 54 111 - DOLPHINS SELECT - Eric Fisher OT3 Raiders - Star Lotulelei DT -4 Eagles - Geno Smith QB5 Lions - Dion Jordan OLB/DE6 Browns - Dee Milliner CB7 Cardinals ** TRADE WITH 49ers ** - CARDINALS GET #'s 31, 34, 74, 93 - 49ers select Shariff Floyd DT8 Bills - Xavier Rhodes CB9 Jets - WR Tavon Austin10 Titans - Ziggy Ansah DE11 Chargers - Lane Johnson OT12 Dolphins ** TRADE WITH JAGUARS ** Jaguars select - Desmond Trufant CB13 Buccaneers - **TRADE WITH JETS *1.13 for REVIS nothing more ** - Barkevious Mingo, OLB14 Panthers - Sheldon Richardson, DT15 Saints - Jarvis Jones OLB16 Rams - Kenny Vaccaro S17 Steelers - Johnathan Franklin, RB18 Cowboys - Chance Warmack OG19 Giants - DJ Fluker OT20 Bears - Johnathan Cooper OG,21 Bengals - Cordarelle Patterson WR22 Rams (from Redskins) - Matt Elam S23 Vikings - DeAndre Hopkins WR24 Colts - Jonathan Cyprien S25 Vikings (from Seahawks) - Alec Ogletree ILB26 Packers - Tyler Eifert TE27 Texans - Robert Woods WR28 Broncos - Bjoern Werner DE29 Patriots - Brandon Williams DT30 Falcons - Kevin Minter ILB31 49ers ** TRADE WITH CARDINALS ** Cardinals select Arthur Brown LB -32 Ravens - Keenan Allen WR2nd round1 (33) Jaguars ** TRADE WITH JETS *JAGS GET 39 72 * JETS SELECT - EJ Manual QB2 (34) 49ers (from Chiefs) ** TRADE WITH CARDINALS ** Cardinals select Melelik Watson OT3 (35) Eagles - Datone Jones DE4 (36) Lions - Jamar Taylor CB5 (37) Bengals (from Raiders) - Eric Reed FS6 (38) Cardinals - Cardinals select Margus Hunt DE7 Browns (exercised pick in Supplemental Draft)8 (39) Jets ** TRADE WITH JAGUARS ** Jaguars select DJ Hayden CB -9 (40) Titans - Larry Worford OL10 (41)Bills - Ryan Nassib, QB11 (42) Dolphins - ** TRADE WITH JAGUARS** - JAGUARS select Justin Hunter WR12 (43)Buccaneers - Tank Carradine, DE13 (44)Panthers - Johnathan Hankins, DT14 SAINTS LOST PICK - BOUNTY15 (45)Chargers - Barrett Jones OL16 (46)Rams - Terron Armstead OT17 (47)Cowboys - Travis Frederick, C18 (48)Steelers - Kiko Alonso, ILB19 (49)Giants Alex Okafor, DE20 (50)Bears - Manti Te’o LB21 (51)Redskins - Johnathan Banks CB22 (52)Vikings - Mike Glennon QB23 (53)Bengals - Eddie Lacy RB24 (54) Dolphins (from Colts) ** TRADE WITH Jaguars ** Jaguars select Justin Pugh, OT/G25 (55)Packers - Johathan Jenkins DT26 (56)Seahawks - Jessie Williams DT27 (57)Texans - Sylvester Williams, DT28 (58)Broncos - Darius Slay, CB29 (59)Patriots - Denard Robinson, WR30 (60)Falcons - Zack Ertz TE31 (61)49ers - Logan Ryan CB32 (62)Ravens - Khaseem Greene LB3rd round -1 (63)Chiefs - William Gholston, DE2 (64)Jaguars - Kawann Short DT3 (65)Lions - Corey Lemonier, DE4 (66)Raiders - Jordan Reed TE5 (67)Eagles - Keith Pough OT6 (68)Browns - Da'Rick Rogers, WR7 (69)Cardinals - Cardinals Select Jamie Collins, OLB8 (70)Titans - Marquise Goodwin, WR9 (71)Bills - Terrance Williams WR10 (72) Jets ** TRADE WITH JAGUARS ** Jaguars select Damontre Moore, DE11 (73)Buccaneers - David Amerson, CB12 (74) 49ers (from Panthers) ** TRADE WITH Cardinals ** - Cardinals Select - Giovanni Bernard RB13 (75)Saints - Phillip Thomas, S14 (76)Chargers - Quinton Patton, WR15 (77)Dolphins - Montee Ball, RB16 (78)Rams - Robert Alford, CB17 (79)Steelers - Markus Wheaton, WR18 (80)Cowboys - Bennie Logan, DT19 (81)Giants - Jonathan Bostic, ILB20 (82)Dolphins (from Bears) - Will Davis CB21 (83)Vikings - Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB,22 (84)Bengals - Trevardo Williams, OLB23 (85)Redskins - Jordan Poyer, CB24 (86)Colts - Montori Hughes, DE25 (87)Seahawks - Jessie Williams DT26 (88)Packers - Christine Michael, RB27 (89)Texans - Sio Moore, LB28 (90)Broncos - Stepfan Taylor, RB29 (91)Patriots - Kenny Stills, WR30 (92)Falcons - Sam Montgomery DE31 (93) 49ers - TRADE WITH CARDINALS - Cardinals select Brian Winters OG32 (94)Ravens - DJ Swearinger S33 (95)Texans (compensatory selection) - Matt Barkley QB34 (96)Chiefs (compensatory selection) - Tyler Bray, QB35 (97)Titans (compensatory selection) Alvin Bailey, OT/G4th Round-----------------(98)Jacksonville Jaguars: Brian Schwenke C(99)Kansas City Chiefs: Le'Veon Bell RB(100)Oakland Raiders: Tyler Wilson QB(101)Philadelphia Eagles: Dallas Thomas OT/OG(102)Minnesota Vikings: Marcus Lattimore RB(103)Arizona Cardinals: JOsh Evans S(104)Cleveland Browns: David Quessenberry G(105)Buffalo Bills: Aj Klein - ILB(106)New York Jets: Travis Kelce - TE(107)Tennessee Titans: Sean Porter - OLB(108)Carolina Panthers: J.J. Wilcox, S (109)New Orleans Saints: Dwayne Gratz, CB(110)San Diego Chargers: Leon McFadden CB(111) Miami Dolphins: TRADE WITH JAGUARS * - Jaguars select - Chase Thomas, OLB, (112)Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Gavin Escobar TE(113)St. Louis Rams: Jordan Hill - DT(114)Dallas Cowboys: Andre Ellington RB(115)Pittsburgh Steelers: T.J. McDonald S(116)New York Giants: Stedman Bailey - WR(117)Chicago Bears: BW Webb CB (118)Cincinnati Bengals: Tyrann Mathieu, DB(119)Washington Redskins: Ryan Swope WR(120)Minnesota Vikings: Cobi Hamilton WR(121)Indianapolis Colts: Knile Davis, RB(122)Green Bay Packers: Shamarko Thomas, S (123)Seattle Seahawks: Gerald Hodges, OLB(124)Houston Texans: Earl Wolff, S(125)Denver Broncos: Jordan Mills, OT (126)Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Steve Williams*, CB (127)Atlanta Falcons: Nick Kasa, TE(128)San Francisco 49ers: Bacarri Rambo, S (129)Baltimore Ravens: Marquess Wilson - WR(130)Baltimore Ravens: Chris Faulk - OT(131)San Francisco 49ers: John Simon, OLB(132)Detroit Lions: Ricky Wagner, OT(133)Atlanta Falcons: Blaize Foltz, OLArizona Cardinals - Arthur Brown LB, Melelik Watson OT, Margus Hunt DE, Jamie Collins, OLB, Giovanni Bernard RB , Brian Winters OG,JOsh Evans S, Atlanta Falcons - Kevin Minter ILB, Zack Ertz TE, Sam Montgomery DE,Nick Kasa, TE, Blaize Foltz, OLBaltimore Ravens - Keenan Allen WR, Khaseem Greene LB, DJ Swearinger, Marquess Wilson, WR, Chris Faulk, OTBuffalo Bills - Xavier Rhodes CB, Ryan Nassib, QB, Terrance Williams, WR,Aj Klein - ILB, Carolina Panthers - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Johnathan Hankins, DT, J.J. Wilcox, S,Chicago Bears - Johnathan Cooper OG, Manti Te’o LB, BW Webb, CB,Cincinnati Bengals - Cordarelle Patterson WR, Eric Reed FS, Eddie Lacy RB, Trevardo Williams, OLB, Tyrann Mathieu, DB, Cleveland Browns - Dee Milliner , Da'Rick Rogers, WR, David Quessenberry G, Dallas Cowboys - Chance Warmack OG, Travis Frederick, C, Bennie Logan, DT, Andre Ellington RB, Denver Broncos - Bjoern Werner DE, Darius Slay, CB, Stepfan Taylor, RB, Jordan Mills, OT,Detroit Lions - Dion Jordan OLB/DE, Jamar Taylor CB, Corey Lemonier, DE, Ricky Wagner, OT,Green Bay Packers - Tyler Eifert TE,Johathan Jenkins DT, Shamarko Thomas, S,Christine Michael, RB, Houston Texans - Robert Woods WR, Sylvester Williams, DT, Sio Moore, LB, Matt Barkley, QB, Earl Wolff, S,Indianapolis Colts - Jonathan Cyprien S, Montori Hughes, DE, Knile Davis, RB, Jacksonville Jaguars - Desmond Trufant CB, DJ Hayden CB, Justin Hunter WR, Kwann Short DT, Damontre Moore, DE, Justin Pugh, OT/G, Brian Schwenke C, Chase Thomas, OLB,Kansas City Chiefs - Luke Joeckel OT, William Gholston, DE, Tyler Bray, QB, Le'Veon Bell RB,Miami Dolphins - Eric Fisher OT, Montee Ball RB, Tharold Simon, CB,Minnesota Vikings - DeAndre Hopkins WR, Alec Ogletree ILB, Mike Glennon QB, Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Marcus Lattimore RB ,Cobi Hamilton WR, New England Patriots - Brandon Williams DT, Denard Robinson, WR, Kenny Stills, WR,New Orleans Saints - Jarvis Jones OLB, Phillip Thomas, S, Dwayne Gratz, CB,New York Giants - DJ Fluker OT, Alex Okafor, DE, Jonathan Bostic, ILB, Stedman Bailey, WR,New York Jets - WR Tavon Austin, Barkevious Mingo, OLB, QB EJ Manual, TE Travis KelceOakland Raiders - Star Lotulelei DT, Jordan Reed TE, Tyler Wilson QB,Philadelphia Eagles - Geno Smith QB, Datone Jones, Keith Pough OT ,Dallas Thomas OT/OG, Pittsburgh Steelers - Johnathan Franklin, RB, Kiko Alonso, ILB, Markus Wheaton, WR, T.J. McDonald, S, Saint Louis Rams - Kenny Vaccaro S, Matt Elam S, Terron Armstead OT, Robert Alford, CB, Jordan Hill, DT,San Diego Chargers - Lane Johnson OT, Barrett Jones OL, Quinton Patton, WR, Leon McFadden CB,San Francisco 49ers - Shariff Floyd DT, Logan Ryan CB, Bacarri Rambo, S, John Simon, OLBSeattle Seahawks - Jessie Williams DT, Kyle Long OT, Gerald Hodges, OLB,Tampa Bay Buccaneers - REVIS, Tank Carradine, DE,David Amerson, CB,Gavin Escobar TE, Steve Williams, CB, Tennessee Titans - Ziggy Ansah DE, Larry Warford, OL, Marquise Goodwin, WR, Alvin Bailey, OT/G, Sean Porter, OLB,Washington Redskins - Johnathan Banks CB, Jordan Poyer, CB, Ryan Swope WR,

 

[King of the Jungle]

Me angry Lion's fan if they don't walk away with an o-lineman with the first pick. Nice work - and thanks!

 

[a_rackowski]

I hear you. I dont have much of an answer there - Lane Johnson could be the pick for the Lions at 5, but Jordan seems like a sure bet and the type of guy who would be the ultimate equalizer against the passing of Cutler and Rodgers. Easiest way to beat the Packers and Bears is to get to the QB.

I think that the Lions have to give Reiff another year to try and become the left tackle. I think that in a pass first offense, which I anticipate the Lions running - Ricky Wagner from Wisconsin is really underrated. Former basketball player, turned TE, turned tackle (played both sides) the guy is an athlete and an answer on the offensive line.

Just my opinion

 

[3nOut]

If the Beats can address OL, LB, and CB in the draft, I would be very happy. I think however, the Bears should try to trade down with Atlanta and get a third rounder which they are missing (to Miami). The falcons can then leapfrog both GB and the Texans who I think are looking at offensive weapons (especially GB) in the first, and get their TE of the future.

 

[a_rackowski]

I think however, the Bears should try to trade down with Atlanta

I think its really going to be exciting - there is going to be a ton of moving around in the first 4 rounds. Trading down might be the best idea, but I think Cooper would really solidify that offensive line and is an extremely safe pick. The one issue I had with Cooper, is where does that leave Carimi? Too soon to just give up on him. But Webb should be the Right tackle Id assume, right? So you are looking at having two first round linemen inside at guard. Could be interesting.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Can you explain a bit why you see Jonathan Franklin going mid-1st round, but E Lacy going 36 picks later? That seems like a big gap - in the wrong direction - for those two players.

 

[JetMaxx]

No chance the Eagles select Geno at 4 but that's some interesting value via trade being throw in on either side of the pick.

 

[ex-ghost]

Jessie Williams selected in 2nd and 3rd round by Seahawks (Kyle Long?).

 

[cstu]

9 Jets - WR Tavon Austin

 

[a_rackowski]

Can you explain a bit why you see Jonathan Franklin going mid-1st round, but E Lacy going 36 picks later? That seems like a big gap - in the wrong direction - for those two players.

I think Franklin is by far the most complete back in the draft. I also think that Lacy ran behind an amazing offensive line - one of the best we have seen in years - and because of that might be seeing things in the NFL for the first time. I personally feel pretty confident saying that Franklin will be the first RB drafted.

 

[a_rackowski]

Jessie Williams selected in 2nd and 3rd round by Seahawks (Kyle Long?).

Kyle Long is actually supposed to be that 3rd round pick. Thats why he is listed in the summary at the bottom. Dual screens would have helped quite a bit.

Thanks for catching.

 

[a_rackowski]

9 Jets - WR Tavon Austin

Wow - thats a great catch. I have not seen that before. The one thing id say is there is a big difference in signing bonus when you talk about being a top 10 pick vs not being a top 10 pick.

http://overthecap.com/nfl-rookie-salary-cap.php

Even without the money being involved, that was a 21 year old kid talking and I am sure the Jets can find him some personal space in the area.

 

[a_rackowski]

No chance the Eagles select Geno at 4 but that's some interesting value via trade being throw in on either side of the pick.

Its tough to predict trades and other guys might be better at it than me, no doubt.

We will see on Geno - Everyone knows that new regimes mean new QBs. I think at 33 years old Vick is too old to center an offense around, so unless Foles is going to be the guy - and i dont think he fits - they need to walk away with a qb early.

just my best guess

 

[JetMaxx]

Not blasting you, I enjoyed your mock with trades. It's just my homer opinion based on what I've learned about Geno and Kelly's/Roseman's comments. Just doesn't seem like a fit.

 

[Crippler]

Franklin seems way too high. Especially after Rob Rang wrote this yesterday and I agree big time.

At least one running back has been drafted in the first round of every NFL draft since 1963. This is the year, however, in which that historic trend is broken. This isn't just a reflection of the new running-back-by-committee approach that many NFL teams favor, it is a statement about the lack of quality of high-end talent in the 2013 class -- arguably the weakest positional group of the 2013 draft.

Dont mind the Packers pick at all but I would take what Jags got for the 2.1 also pretty quick.

Love the value for all teams that can trade down with those looking to move up. Great moves for Jags and Cards by the looks of things.

 

[Hobbes]

If you are predicting the Jags to trade up to get EJ Manuel you may want to consider them trading up into the bottom of the first rather than the first pick of the second. Under the new CBA they get an extra year of player control if they pick him in the first round (something teams love to do with QBs).

 

[a_rackowski]

If you are predicting the Jags to trade up to get EJ Manuel you may want to consider them trading up into the bottom of the first rather than the first pick of the second. Under the new CBA they get an extra year of player control if they pick him in the first round (something teams love to do with QBs).

That is very interesting and an excellent point. I was not aware.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I'd like to see the Pack draft another O-lineman early, rather than a Safety or RB. What makes you think we need another crappy mid-round safety? What's your view on Eifert? How will he fit into the offense?

The value on some of your trades seems a bit off. How do you compare some of the prices to move up vs prior years' drafts?

BTW - really enjoyed reading your mock. Solid effort overall.

Green Bay Packers - Tyler Eifert TE,Johathan Jenkins DT, Shamarko Thomas, S,Christine Michael, RB,

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

I'd be estatic if the Jags draft came anything close to this.

 

[Bankerguy]

Cowboys like this draft.

 

[cstu]

9 Jets - WR Tavon Austin

To give it some context, it was also right after his disappointing final game in a disappointing final season.

 

[cdwood]

I'd be estatic if the Jags draft came anything close to this.

I agree, I just don't see the Dolphins giving up 4 picks to the Jaguars to move up 10 spots. I would love to see the Jaguars turn their top 2 picks into 6 picks. The Jaguars need more picks, especially if this draft is as deep as some talent evaluators believe it is.

On another side topic in this thread, the original poster wrote that the Jets would trade up to 2.01 to select EJ Manuel, the Jaguars already own 2.01. But the point is valid that if the Jaguars were to trade up to get EJ Manuel, it would have to be to trade back into the first round. I don't see the Jaguars trading back into the first round for any QB, they can almost draft any QB at 2.01. I think its more likely they would trade down to get more picks.