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49ers vs Cowboys - Wild Card (-3, o/u 51) (1 Viewer)
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Steady Mooobin
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belljr
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DEFENSIVE MATCHUPS FOLLOWING SUBSTITUTIONS Article 10 If a substitution is made by the offense, the offense shall not be permitted to snap the ball until the defense has been permitted to respond with its substitutions. While in the process of a substitution (or simulated substitution), the offense is prohibited from rushing quickly to the line of scrimmage and snapping the ball in an obvious attempt to cause a defensive foul (i.e., too many men on the field). If, in the judgment of the officials, this occurs, the following procedure will apply: (a) The Umpire will stand over the ball until the Referee deems that the defense has had a reasonable time to complete its substitutions. (b) If a play takes place and a defensive foul for too many players on the field results, no penalties will be enforced, except for personal fouls and unsportsmanlike conduct, and the down will be replayed. At this time, the Referee will notify the head coach that any further use of this tactic will result in a penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct. Note: The quick-snap rule does not apply after the two-minute warning of either half, or if there is not a substitution by the offense. (c) On a fourth-down punting situation, the Referee and the Umpire will not allow a quick snap that prevents the defense from having a reasonable time to complete its substitutions. This applies throughout the entire game.
Steady Mooobin
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Cowboysfan8
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So the defense chooses to #### around for 10 seconds and run out the play clock. Why wouldn’t they do that every time ?
Steady Mooobin
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Steady Mooobin
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belljr
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Cowboysfan8
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How long is reasonable?
The offense came on the field with 17 seconds on the play clock
Steady Mooobin
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It says that the quick snap rule does not apply after the two minute warning before the half. So the refs should not have held the ball. You literally quoted the rulebook and made the argument for me. Thank you very much that’s ####### awesome! I mean not awesome for my Cowboys because it appears by rule the ref messes up.
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belljr
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Um, wut? the fake punt fiasco was in the third quarter
Correction start of the 4th quarter
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matuski
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When you need 2 drives of prevent defense to just eeek this out, you further cement the claim.
And of course, eeking out Garappolo "statisitically" while losing your team the game isn't the goal.
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matuski
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No, his ability to play QB was.
Moving forward, paying a QB of this ilk becomes a problem in regards to building a winning team.
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Steady Mooobin
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Your statement said that he can’t out duel Garoppolo. He played better than Garoppolo today. Now you want to change it up.
Steady Mooobin
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matuski
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And they were responding to my game manager post.
Which leads us back to the problem his salary presents.
Hot Sauce Guy
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Looks like the fans were pelting their own team with trash.
https://twitter.com/slaternfl/status/1482884132426428423?s=21
https://twitter.com/slaternfl/status/1482884132426428423?s=21
Steady Mooobin
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Well crap! I’m wrong there.
So how much longer do they need? Cowboys swapped their players out with 19 seconds. How much longer does SF need?
Steady Mooobin
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jhib
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And there was a lot of laughing by reporters in the room when he made that comment, too. I'm sure they'll all own up to that when he's getting bashed for it.
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Cowboysfan8
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zoonation
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Steady Mooobin
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Really? Are these weapons really as good as the media advertises? I’ll give you Cooper. Other than that,
OL - played pretty crappy all year.
Gallup - Good sideline guy buy the offense actually was worse when he was heathy, which hasn’t been much lately.
Zeke - Best attribute is pass protection.
Pollard doesn’t get the snaps .
Lamb - Drops important passes and his speed and elusiveness hasn’t translated from college to the pros.
Shultz- Very good but not a top 5 TE.
Who are are al these weapon? Bunch of solid players except for Cooper.
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Summer Wheat
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Does not matter what his salary was as Dak played terrible and was not good enough for Dallas to win.
Zeke is probably done as a Cowboy. Makes too much money for a mediocre RB. Zeke is nothing like his first couple years, he lacks the burst and looks slow and plodding now. Pollard is much more explosive.
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Ministry of Pain
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Ministry of Pain
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There's some good points to be made in here. I still think if they upgrade that Dak will not elevate into the Top5 at QB but I don't think it's bad to strengthen the OL more, move on from Zeke and get a dynamic RB to team with Pollard who had soe injuries and I don't see him being able to fill the RB1 role by himself.
CDL looks so good at times but I understand...75/1,000/5 TD avg his 1st 2 seasons is promising but I agree I've seen him drop some balls you gotta make but I also see a QB that can be erratic and throws the ball many times behind them instead of leading them.
The Defense could advance, Micah Parsons is a beast that will only get better next season, he's got All Pro written all over him for the next chunk of his career, that's a guy you build around and continue to find playmakers to add on Defense, this is where I think Dallas can have an elite level unit as early as next season.
In that Division where there aren't a lot of other Top12 QBs sprinkled in, they win the Division easy but they are not ready for the Super Bowl run yet. Their future was the NOW as Romo said on air during the game.
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TVT 0 N S T A
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Cowboys fan here:
We absolutely lost this game in the first 3 quarters, but it is a frequent crutch we as fans use to blame the last play. The guys that should be shouldering the blame for this performance are the guys pointing fingers at the referees at the end, Dak and McCarthy.
McCarthy looked unprepared. The team looked sloppy. The penalties are a direct reflection of that. The end of game scenario is a direct reflection of that.
Dak Prescott... I love Dak Prescott. I wasn't enamored with him when he took over for Romo. I still thought that was Romo's team and understood he was on borrowed time and it was likely his last year, but I have grown to really like Dak. I love his story and respect him as a human-being. With that being said, he was incredibly inaccurate and spraying balls all over the field for 3 quarters.
We always hear about this incredible team Dallas has, but our offensive line is old - Tyron Smith's best years are behind him and our entire left side including Biadisz at Center needs to be looked at. Realistically, if Bosa and Warner don't leave that game - we aren't even having this conversation because we couldn't stop the pass rush and Warner was involved on, what seemed like, every tackle.
With that being said, I don't think that holding call against Gregory on that outside run by Deebo to run the clock down to 1:40-ish should have been called. Those types of plays happen ALL the time. Gregory was being decleated and was basically holding on for his life. The blocker wasn't going to get onto the next level and clear out the entire caravan of defensive players waiting for that stretch run to the outside. I thought, as badly the Cowboys mismanaged that final play - the refs played equal parts in it. He was 20 yards down the field, he fumbles with the ball spot and wasted about 2-3 seconds "spotting the ball" that he couldn't even see from his vantage point.
Do I think we would have won? Probably not... but nothing bothers me more when the refs seem to rob the fans of a decent ending to a game. It's the playoffs and we had a game end like that... frustrating.
Dallas needs draft help:
Entire left side of our line is a mess.
Zeke isn't anywhere near as explosive as he used to be.
Interior defensive line doesn't seem to be able to get any pressure/push up the middle.
Our safeties are probably leaving.
Anthony Brown needs someone pushing his job.
Hopefully Diggs can mature into the cornerback position and Micah will continue to develop.
Sadly, I think we lose one of our coordinators keeping McCarthy. I wasn't a big fan of hiring him to begin with and if we lose Dan Quinn because of him... woof.
We absolutely lost this game in the first 3 quarters, but it is a frequent crutch we as fans use to blame the last play. The guys that should be shouldering the blame for this performance are the guys pointing fingers at the referees at the end, Dak and McCarthy.
McCarthy looked unprepared. The team looked sloppy. The penalties are a direct reflection of that. The end of game scenario is a direct reflection of that.
Dak Prescott... I love Dak Prescott. I wasn't enamored with him when he took over for Romo. I still thought that was Romo's team and understood he was on borrowed time and it was likely his last year, but I have grown to really like Dak. I love his story and respect him as a human-being. With that being said, he was incredibly inaccurate and spraying balls all over the field for 3 quarters.
We always hear about this incredible team Dallas has, but our offensive line is old - Tyron Smith's best years are behind him and our entire left side including Biadisz at Center needs to be looked at. Realistically, if Bosa and Warner don't leave that game - we aren't even having this conversation because we couldn't stop the pass rush and Warner was involved on, what seemed like, every tackle.
With that being said, I don't think that holding call against Gregory on that outside run by Deebo to run the clock down to 1:40-ish should have been called. Those types of plays happen ALL the time. Gregory was being decleated and was basically holding on for his life. The blocker wasn't going to get onto the next level and clear out the entire caravan of defensive players waiting for that stretch run to the outside. I thought, as badly the Cowboys mismanaged that final play - the refs played equal parts in it. He was 20 yards down the field, he fumbles with the ball spot and wasted about 2-3 seconds "spotting the ball" that he couldn't even see from his vantage point.
Do I think we would have won? Probably not... but nothing bothers me more when the refs seem to rob the fans of a decent ending to a game. It's the playoffs and we had a game end like that... frustrating.
Dallas needs draft help:
Entire left side of our line is a mess.
Zeke isn't anywhere near as explosive as he used to be.
Interior defensive line doesn't seem to be able to get any pressure/push up the middle.
Our safeties are probably leaving.
Anthony Brown needs someone pushing his job.
Hopefully Diggs can mature into the cornerback position and Micah will continue to develop.
Sadly, I think we lose one of our coordinators keeping McCarthy. I wasn't a big fan of hiring him to begin with and if we lose Dan Quinn because of him... woof.
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Steady Mooobin
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I know you’re (half) kidding but you’re the only team in the NFL who has a Tyreek Hill.
Steady Mooobin
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This is spot on. We must break the bank to keep Dan Quinn. Ive been saying this since the 90s - There’s no salary cap for coaches. In today’s NFL they make more of a difference than talent.
I would say the Cowboys are truly a mass media creation- a historic franchise with a national following. Always rank highly in merchandise sales. It benefits the major networks (Fox, CBS, NFLN, etc...) when the Cowboys are in the national discussion. Therefore, the players are always hyped collectively overrated.
I wish I agreed that they are close. The record pretty clearly shows that this team feasts on a weak division and fades significantly during the stretch drive, particularly against tough competition.
I'm a Red Sox fan as well so I know the narrative can always change, but right now they look a ways away from truly being a Super Bowl contender. My feeling all season was they needed to win a playoff game to show their legitimacy. It would be no shame to have won yesterday and then lost on the road at Tampa Bay. Losing yesterday, particularly in the fashion they did shows there is no difference between this team and other playoff failures- they played poorly, and seemed mentally unprepared (as well, physically).
They will play a first place schedule next near and the division can't be worse. This team will be 10-7 or 9-8 next year, with marginal playoff aspirations yet again. I see more of the same, no indication that they have learned or are better off from yesterday. Instead, the press conferences doubled down on stupidity- not a way to get better.
Ultimately, it rests on JJ, and he's not going anywhere, nor are there any indications of any self-awareness on his part. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result- the Cowboys are the sports embodiment of that maxim.
Steady Mooobin
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I can’t disagree with much other than they’re are closer than you think. Every team in the league is close. What sets them apart is accountability, dedication and tough coaching.
This team needs to look itself in the mirror and get angry at themselves. If they can do that and take their jobs seriously they can get over the hump.
If they blame the refs and come back like their you know what doesn’t stink, they will be .500 for the reasons you mentioned.
I understand where you’re at now and why you feel that way. At this moment I don’t even see a reason to watch a single regular season game next year. Why out myself through the emotional roller coaster for the same result.
Growing up in the 80s and early 90s I was spoiled by this team. They were tough as nails and clutch. After further review- That was the extremely small exception. The Cowboys have almost always been unclutch, front running choking dogs. It’s their DNA.
Until we get tougher it will continue.
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I hope you are right about being closer. Perhaps some time away, the draft, and free agency will recharge my batteries.
As much as I would like to say I won't watch next year, I know that I will.
Steady Mooobin
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This has been me for several years now but I don’t know. Until something changes I think I will spend my time doing something more productive that doesn’t take years off my life.
Im officially the Randy Quade Major League character I accused you of being yesterday.
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Cowboysfan8
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LU0SKzIEJX8
start this video at 1:36 and see the difference between 2 near identical plays
start this video at 1:36 and see the difference between 2 near identical plays
Cowboysfan8
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And no, I’m not saying this is why Dallas lost the game so save your keystrokes
Steady Mooobin
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Cowboysfan8
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The Rams center set the ball. The official ran in and tapped it then got out of dodge
themeistersinger
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Hmm, that play you mentioned. the play clock started at 0:17, they spiked it at 0:03 - so it took 14 seconds. And the announcers said that was about the best they had ever seen when lining up for the spike.
If you start at 0:014, and if you burn 14 seconds while executing to absolute perfection, the clock is at 0:00 and the game is over. Plus the ball needs to be spotted at the point where Dak begins his slide, which is always further back than where the QB thinks it should go. So it had to be spotted correctly.
It was an incredibly stupid play call.
Desert_Power
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Pretty ridiculous comment from Dak. Being butthurt because you don't know the rules of a game you get paid millions to play isn't a good look.
I think, when the emotion subsides, Dak will recognize that comment was a mistake.
He's been a class act, so I'm not going to crush him for one mistake. We are all entitled to forgiveness for saying something foolish.
Desert_Power
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I don't dislike Dak at all. Hope you are right and a night or two on the Sleepnumber makes him rethink it.
Throwing things at people on the field is a hard line for me and it feels like this type of hooliganism is on the rise in the US.
