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6 pts from Passing TDs and QB Rankings (1 Viewer)
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bagger
Footballguy
no, although i am in that format and rodgers went 2, and Brady and Brees were also taken in the first round (4 and 5 i think). i think that is nuts, but was happy to get rice at 3 and the guy in the 6 hole got a gift getting mccoy.
GMacsTiedUpInMyBasemment
Footballguy
This has been debated a bunch here, and there seems to be no consensus. One side asserts that the overall increased fantasy points makes the QBs more valuable. The other side (and the one to which I ascribe) holds that a rising tide raises all ships. That is, the difference between the elite QB and the average starting QB does not change all that much when TDs are all worth 6. For instance, say Brees has 40 TDs and Romo has 30. In the 4 pt per TD instance, the difference would be 40 pts, and in the 6 pts per TD case, the difference would be 60 pts. So, the value of the elite QB will be slightly greater, but it's not an overwhelming amount. I guess I'd hedge a bit and say that the QB has a small increase in value relative to other positions, but not as much as is widely believed. Certainly not enough to justify the first three picks being QBs.
bagger
Footballguy
personally i spent a lot of time mocking every which way from the 3rd spot and tried some runs taking rodgers. i could never do as well based on my projections taking rodgers first given scarcity at other positions and being able to piece together some good qbs later in the draft.
Englishteacher
Footballguy
I play in a league similar to this. Passing TD's are 6. However, passing and rushing are scored together at X 0.04. The decreased yardage scoring due to the 0.04 and rushing not at 0.1 knocks Rodgers, Brady, and Brees down a bit but I will enter some recent values. Our league is not auction and we only start 2 WR's with no flex but here goes:
Based on a $250 cap with 12 teams and 18 rounds.
Rodgers $79
Brees 76
Brady 73
Foster 92
Rice 86
McCoy 83
McFadden70
Calvin Johnson 62
Julio Jones 33
Jimmy Graham 48
Rushing rec - 1 point per 10, 6 per all TD's, no ppr 1 QB, 2RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 def/st, 1 k
The Big three QB's should go 4,5,6 here and that's with the goofy scoring that discounts the QB.
Based on a $250 cap with 12 teams and 18 rounds.
Rodgers $79
Brees 76
Brady 73
Foster 92
Rice 86
McCoy 83
McFadden70
Calvin Johnson 62
Julio Jones 33
Jimmy Graham 48
Rushing rec - 1 point per 10, 6 per all TD's, no ppr 1 QB, 2RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 def/st, 1 k
The Big three QB's should go 4,5,6 here and that's with the goofy scoring that discounts the QB.
hotdogcollars
Footballguy
1,2,3? i disagree with that, but they will certainly go quickly. We've had this setup in our PPR league for a while and 5-6 QBs ALWAYS go in the first 2 rds. 7 of the top 10 scorers in this league last year were QBs. So, unless you hit on a QB late (a la Stafford last year), it's very tough to find success.
Short Corner
Footballguy
I have 1.03 and Rodgers at 2 for my VBD but I will pass if he falls there. Way too many question marks at RB to not lock in a top 3 back. IMO the big 3 QBs should probably go in the top 10. In this format, I have Rice-Foster-McCoy-Calvin-Rodgers
FF EGGHEAD
Footballguy
Is this PPR? Normally in PPR I'd say no but I'm in a league that is similar to your scoring but QBs ALSO get .5 per Completion and we also get 1PPR.I'm thinking of trying to get an elite QB in 1st (which I've never done)this year as QBs score so much in this format. I can then load up on WR/TE who will outperform most RBs. (I guess I'm going to try upside down strategy this year and see how it goes)
The Jerk
Footballguy
A lot should depend on your exact draft slot and what the other drafters do. If you're drafting late in the first round and 4+ QBs are already gone, I'm not sure the payoff is there to go QB. You're basically conceding weakness at QB relative to 4-5 or so other teams. Of course, if you are late 1st and can get a top 3 QB, then I think it can be a fantastic move.As to upside-down drafting, by all means give it a shot, in particular if you don't like what RBs are presented to you in the early rounds. On the other hand, just like you shouldn't force a RB pick, my advice is not to force a WR/TE pick either.Basically, if you're getting the impression that it's a good idea to not try to preordain your draft strategy, but rather be open to multiple possible paths, then I think I'll have made my point.
My leagues is similar to yours except all td's over 40 yds 9 pts I'm draftin #6 if Rogers there I'm taking him!
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
I agree with QB in the first with this format, especially one of the top 3. I would even include the likes of Stafford and Cam in the notion of using a first round pick on them with this scoring format.
the spanker
Footballguy
I play in a 12-man 6pt TD format, 1pt per 20yds passing and 1pt per 10 rush/receive and I've changed my mind who to draft at #11 a million times.Assuming the Big 3 RBs, Big 3 RBs, CJ2f, DMAC, and Calvin are of the board are you forced to go Stafford to keep pace? Take the next RB who is Forte? And even then that's the 10th pick, what about after that? Go with Murray with Dallas OL in shambles? Or just go in another direction and pray Julio will continue to beast?I've changed my mind so many times it's giving me a headache now.
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
Think you meant top 3 RB's and top 3 QB's. Anyway, I traded out of #11 when offered the 5th spot for that very reason. If I thought DMC would be there I would have kept it. Hated the 2nd tier RB's, so was leaning strongly to a Julio/Stafford start. Thought it was a slight reach for both though, and when I could get a guaranteed Rodgers/Brady or Calvin I took it. RB's will fall to me in the next few rounds. It's a tough slot, have to be bold on not worry about ADP here. If you like Julio/Stafford at #11 - take 'em.
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