#8 pick strategy (1 Viewer)

[Marek]

I get that, but we're not talking about ten team leagues, never were, and I have stated that a few times. Don't get all sarcastic and snippy about it.

Oh lighten up, bro. I know you're the author, but we're here to talk about the #8 slot. Not "hey let's only discuss the league size / scoring that evilgrin72 uses" If it annoys you that I dared to discuss a 10 team league, then I'll deal.Yes, per your league settings, RB/WR will probably be very sound unless, like you said, an RB slips through the cracks. As is oft repeated, the motto is to be flexible and dynamic so that you can jump on that opportunity if it occurs. After that, I think you'd almost have to go back to an RB due to the depth of WRs vs the depth of RBs. A good value play is really needed there. A lot of people are high on Chester Taylor and then there is the ever-reliable Warrick Dunn if you want some consistent yardage performance and a probable top 20 RB (excluding TD-heavy leagues). Unless they've gone RB insane, I'd expect one of them to be present for round 3. If not, that means there's probably some serious value to be found somewhere else. Some people mention snagging both Rhodes & Addai or even waiting for round 4 to get Foster & Williams for a RBBC, but I personally prefer simply staying away from murky RB situations.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I get that, but we're not talking about ten team leagues, never were, and I have stated that a few times. Don't get all sarcastic and snippy about it.

Oh lighten up, bro. I know you're the author, but we're here to talk about the #8 slot. Not "hey let's only discuss the league size / scoring that evilgrin72 uses" If it annoys you that I dared to discuss a 10 team league, then I'll deal.Yes, per your league settings, RB/WR will probably be very sound unless, like you said, an RB slips through the cracks. As is oft repeated, the motto is to be flexible and dynamic so that you can jump on that opportunity if it occurs. After that, I think you'd almost have to go back to an RB due to the depth of WRs vs the depth of RBs. A good value play is really needed there. A lot of people are high on Chester Taylor and then there is the ever-reliable Warrick Dunn if you want some consistent yardage performance and a probable top 20 RB (excluding TD-heavy leagues). Unless they've gone RB insane, I'd expect one of them to be present for round 3. If not, that means there's probably some serious value to be found somewhere else. Some people mention snagging both Rhodes & Addai or even waiting for round 4 to get Foster & Williams for a RBBC, but I personally prefer simply staying away from murky RB situations.

Look, anyone on this board can tell you that I can break balls with the best of them, but I am not hording this thread as a proprietary thing. It doesn't have to comply to MY league, but a) FBG standard is a 12-team league when discussing draft slots and 2) I mentioned in the first couple sentences of the opening thread that we were discussing the 8 slot out of 12. You can feel free to start a different thread for 10-team leagues. And it doesn't annoy me that you "dared to discuss a 10 team league" - it's the fact that you asked the question of 10 vs. 12, I answered you, and you felt the need to start posting "Capt. Obvious photos" and saying that "even sarcasm went over my head." That's not necessary. I simply didn't want to confuse the aim of the thread. When you start discussing different league sizes and different picks, things get muddied. Why not start discussing 16-team leagues too? The # of teams in the league defines a draft strategy and I want to keep the thread on point. It may sound like I'm being hypersensitive here - I'm not upset or annoyed at all, I just try to adhere to the "no pissing in the Shark Pool" edict. If you want to break my nuts, go to the FFA, or better yet, check out :e:. There, we can smack each other around all day. That aside, your reasoning above is very sound, and I agree 100%. That's the exact attitude I am going to take going in.

 

[Marek]

it's the fact that you asked the question of 10 vs. 12, I answered you, and you felt the need to start posting "Capt. Obvious photos"

**rubs temples** That's not why I'm ribbing you."Hey guys!! The #8 slot doesn't draft the 13th pick in a 12 man league!!!" "OMG! I don't understand why you posted a Master of the Obvious pic!!"Ah well. On to another thread.

 

[Homey]

What should have been obvious is whether I was referring to a 10 or 12 team league since it clearly states it in at least 2 different places, particularly the initial post.

And I clearly stated (and re-quoted for your benefit) that I was refering to a 10 team league. Good grief... We're well aware that the 8 slot doesn't have the 13th pick in a 12 man league. Even the sarcasm went over your head Topic derailment aside, RB/WR isn't a bad idea for a 12 team league. 10 team, you're probably going to see a RB/RB combo being the safest bet under most scoring formats barring the exceptional case of the first 12 picks being all of your top 12 RBs.

I get that, but we're not talking about ten team leagues, never were, and I have stated that a few times. Don't get all sarcastic and snippy about it. I can see you're not malicious, though, so I will take your comments in the joking spirit in which they were intended.

Hey, I'm talking 10 teams!

 

[Shrek]

I am in the same hole in my league and a lot of what you are saying is what I have been debating. I will get back later though and post some of my own thoughts. Good writeup though EG.

Thanks, man. I'm looking forward to hearing where you stand on some of these calls, as you are a shark pooler whose opinion I highly value and respect.

Thanks EG. I hope I can add something of value. This has been a very good thread so far.To start with, mine is a 12 team league, with the following scoring.

1 pt/25 pass yds up to 300 yds, 2 pts for each 25 yds after 300 yds

1 pt/10 rush yds

1 pt/10 rcv yds

6 pt for standard TD's

10 pt TD if a player scores "out of his element" (ie a RB catches a TD, a WR rushes a TD, a QB rushes a TD)

1 PPR

Roster size- 15

As you can see, RB's that can catch are very valuable in my league. I have pored over the options for weeks now and I have pretty much settled on going RB/WR with my first two picks. I was pleasantly surprised to see that many others in this thread have also said this is the way they would prefer to go. As someone has already said, I think this will provide me with the flexibility to pounce on the value when it presents itself, as I expect it will early on.

My only hard rules are: 2 RB's by round 4, 1 WR by round 3, No QB's/DEF/K's before round 6

Like others, my league typically goes RB heavy in the first two to three rounds. I already know the following picks will be gone by the time it gets to me at #8. LT, LJ, SA, and the guy who has #7 said that if Barber falls that far he will take him. So between the #4-#6 picks, I expect three of the following to be gone:

* Barber- will be gone. Strangely, I am not as high on him as most people are, so this is fine by me.

* Portis (very likely to be gone). Obviously if he slipped to #8, he would be my 1st choice.

* SJax (likely to be gone). If Portis was gone at #8, and he slipped, he would be my choice.

* Jordan - If the big 4 plus Portis and SJax are gone, I would be likely to take him over Rudi if available

* Rudi- I like the prospects of him slipping to 2.05. He is my #8 ranked RB. I will take him at#8 if all of my other RB's are gone, but history has told me that is unlikely.

A lot of guys in this league seem to get cheatsheet-itis on draft day. They have their cheatsheets from some magazine or other website and they follow it strictly for the first two rounds. This plays into my hand. I expect that at least person (either 11 or 12) will try to go WR/WR on the turn, as it has happened in 5 of the last 6 years, That would leave the following RB's to be picked somewhere between 1.09 and 2.04 (a total of 8 picks). I fully expect them all to be gone.

* Edge- I have him ranked as my #11 RB. I am more wary than others of his change of scenery.

* Westbrook- his recpts + recvg TD's make him valuable. If he makes it to 2.05 I would have to take him and throw my RB/WR strategy out, plucking up value as it presents itself in the following rounds.

* Caddy- I am assuming he will be gone at 2.05, but I would pass on him in favor of sticking by my RB/WR strategy, as long as one of my top four WR's are atill available.

* Ronnie Brown- I love his upside this year.

Throw in these four guys, Manning, plus the top three WR's, and it is pick 2.05 for me. That leaves me the likely choices of a WR in the neighborhood of Holt/Harrison/Moss. If Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, or TO are here I will snatch them up and not look back. Otherwise, I would probably take whatever WR is available as long he isn't on the same team as my RB1.

Fourteen picks go by and it's 3.08. If someone in the neighborhood of FWP/JJ/Droughns/McGahee or even Kevin Jones (who I am higher on than most this year) is here I would go RB. Otherwise, the RB's are too similar in value for me, and I would go WR with the expectation to pick up value at RB in the 4th. I personally think one of those RB's will be there, though, as few, if any, of the people drafting in slots #1-#7 are going to go RB/RB/RB in the first three rounds. I will say it's likely that I could get JJ here. This is also fine by me, as I like him more than most this year.

At 4.05, I fully expect one of the following WR's to be available: Driver/Burress/Roy Williams/Branch/S. Moss. I would love to get Driver here, but I think he'll be gone. I'll say low end and take Branch.

At 5.08, I am taking my third RB unless extraordinary value at some other position falls. I would love to get Bush or Dunn here, but if I can't, I would think someone like Foster/Addai/Chester Taylor/Dillon might be.

At 6.05, I am fairly confident that someone like Rod Smith/Derrick Mason/Coles will be here at WR, and I would take them. At QB I would think the likes of Brooks/Vick/Culpepper would be there, but I will let them go by to get better depth at WR. If good value slips at QB here I will take it, though.

So to put it all together, I am looking at something like this. Of course the names might change, but the quality of player at each pick is right around the level I expect to be available. I think on at least 2 or 3 of these picks, I have a great chance of getting a higher quality player at the same position.

1.08- Rudi Johnson

2.05- Randy Moss

3.08- Julius Jones

4.05- Deion Branch

5.08- Deshaun Foster

6.05- Rod Smith

I feel a bit more confident this year at getting decent late value at WR and QB. So if I get my fourth RB by round 8, I think I can cherry pick the remaining positions and fill out a very strong roster.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

it's the fact that you asked the question of 10 vs. 12, I answered you, and you felt the need to start posting "Capt. Obvious photos"

**rubs temples** That's not why I'm ribbing you."Hey guys!! The #8 slot doesn't draft the 13th pick in a 12 man league!!!" "OMG! I don't understand why you posted a Master of the Obvious pic!!"Ah well. On to another thread.

I understand totally. I was hoping maybe it would enable you to follow along better since I clearly stated it was a 12-team league and you felt the need to ask me whether we were talking 10 teams or 12. Just trying to help.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I am in the same hole in my league and a lot of what you are saying is what I have been debating. I will get back later though and post some of my own thoughts. Good writeup though EG.

Thanks, man. I'm looking forward to hearing where you stand on some of these calls, as you are a shark pooler whose opinion I highly value and respect.

Thanks EG. I hope I can add something of value. This has been a very good thread so far.To start with, mine is a 12 team league, with the following scoring.

1 pt/25 pass yds up to 300 yds, 2 pts for each 25 yds after 300 yds

1 pt/10 rush yds

1 pt/10 rcv yds

6 pt for standard TD's

10 pt TD if a player scores "out of his element" (ie a RB catches a TD, a WR rushes a TD, a QB rushes a TD)

1 PPR

Roster size- 15

As you can see, RB's that can catch are very valuable in my league. I have pored over the options for weeks now and I have pretty much settled on going RB/WR with my first two picks. I was pleasantly surprised to see that many others in this thread have also said this is the way they would prefer to go. As someone has already said, I think this will provide me with the flexibility to pounce on the value when it presents itself, as I expect it will early on.

My only hard rules are: 2 RB's by round 4, 1 WR by round 3, No QB's/DEF/K's before round 6

Like others, my league typically goes RB heavy in the first two to three rounds. I already know the following picks will be gone by the time it gets to me at #8. LT, LJ, SA, and the guy who has #7 said that if Barber falls that far he will take him. So between the #4-#6 picks, I expect three of the following to be gone:

* Barber- will be gone. Strangely, I am not as high on him as most people are, so this is fine by me.

* Portis (very likely to be gone). Obviously if he slipped to #8, he would be my 1st choice.

* SJax (likely to be gone). If Portis was gone at #8, and he slipped, he would be my choice.

* Jordan - If the big 4 plus Portis and SJax are gone, I would be likely to take him over Rudi if available

* Rudi- I like the prospects of him slipping to 2.05. He is my #8 ranked RB. I will take him at#8 if all of my other RB's are gone, but history has told me that is unlikely.

A lot of guys in this league seem to get cheatsheet-itis on draft day. They have their cheatsheets from some magazine or other website and they follow it strictly for the first two rounds. This plays into my hand. I expect that at least person (either 11 or 12) will try to go WR/WR on the turn, as it has happened in 5 of the last 6 years, That would leave the following RB's to be picked somewhere between 1.09 and 2.04 (a total of 8 picks). I fully expect them all to be gone.

* Edge- I have him ranked as my #11 RB. I am more wary than others of his change of scenery.

* Westbrook- his recpts + recvg TD's make him valuable. If he makes it to 2.05 I would have to take him and throw my RB/WR strategy out, plucking up value as it presents itself in the following rounds.

* Caddy- I am assuming he will be gone at 2.05, but I would pass on him in favor of sticking by my RB/WR strategy, as long as one of my top four WR's are atill available.

* Ronnie Brown- I love his upside this year.

Throw in these four guys, Manning, plus the top three WR's, and it is pick 2.05 for me. That leaves me the likely choices of a WR in the neighborhood of Holt/Harrison/Moss. If Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, or TO are here I will snatch them up and not look back. Otherwise, I would probably take whatever WR is available as long he isn't on the same team as my RB1.

Fourteen picks go by and it's 3.08. If someone in the neighborhood of FWP/JJ/Droughns/McGahee or even Kevin Jones (who I am higher on than most this year) is here I would go RB. Otherwise, the RB's are too similar in value for me, and I would go WR with the expectation to pick up value at RB in the 4th. I personally think one of those RB's will be there, though, as few, if any, of the people drafting in slots #1-#7 are going to go RB/RB/RB in the first three rounds. I will say it's likely that I could get JJ here. This is also fine by me, as I like him more than most this year.

At 4.05, I fully expect one of the following WR's to be available: Driver/Burress/Roy Williams/Branch/S. Moss. I would love to get Driver here, but I think he'll be gone. I'll say low end and take Branch.

At 5.08, I am taking my third RB unless extraordinary value at some other position falls. I would love to get Bush or Dunn here, but if I can't, I would think someone like Foster/Addai/Chester Taylor/Dillon might be.

At 6.05, I am fairly confident that someone like Rod Smith/Derrick Mason/Coles will be here at WR, and I would take them. At QB I would think the likes of Brooks/Vick/Culpepper would be there, but I will let them go by to get better depth at WR. If good value slips at QB here I will take it, though.

So to put it all together, I am looking at something like this. Of course the names might change, but the quality of player at each pick is right around the level I expect to be available. I think on at least 2 or 3 of these picks, I have a great chance of getting a higher quality player at the same position.

1.08- Rudi Johnson

2.05- Randy Moss

3.08- Julius Jones

4.05- Deion Branch

5.08- Deshaun Foster

6.05- Rod Smith

I feel a bit more confident this year at getting decent late value at WR and QB. So if I get my fourth RB by round 8, I think I can cherry pick the remaining positions and fill out a very strong roster.

I am behind your logic 100% here. The only difference of opinion I'd ahve is on Julius Jones - I seriously won't touch him where he's being drafted - I just think he's going to disappoint. However, your strategy is exactly in line with what I am planning.

 

[Pat Patriot]

Knowing the guys in my league, this is what I would expect to see from the #8 spot which is what I have.

1.8 Stephen Jackson (more upside than Rudi and safer than R. Brown)

The turn usually takes WR/WR. Which would give me the opportunity for another top back.

2.17 Brian Westbrook

3.32 Antonio Gates

4.41 Roy Williams

5.56 Javon Walker

6.65 TJ Houshmanzadeh

7.80 Laurence Maroney

8.89 Drew Bledsoe

9.104 Reggie Brown

I'm sure that some of these are off base and I wont get them all but I think my rankings are reasonable. Leaves me with:

RB1 Stephen Jackson

RB2 Brian Westbrook

RB3 Laurence Maroney

WR1 Roy Williams

WR2 Javon Walker

WR3 TJ Houshmandzadeh

WR4 Reggie Brown

TE1 Antonio Gates

QB1 Drew Bledsoe

I would be VERY lucky to get Gates at the 32 pick. If he is not available, it changes a lot. I would likely take Reggie Wayne or Chris Chambers. After that I could still get Roy Williams and try to get Cedric Benson at 56.

 

[Acrobat7]

just did a mock from the 8 spot in a 12-team league and it turned out like this:

1Ronnie Brown (RB, MIA)

2Terrell Owens (WR, DAL)

3Reuben Droughns (RB, CLE)

4Warrick Dunn (RB, ATL)

5Deion Branch (WR, NE)

6Eddie Kennison (WR, KC)

7Rod Smith (WR, DEN)

8Marion Barber (RB, DAL)

9Braylon Edwards (WR, CLE)

10Aaron Brooks (QB, OAK)

11Alex Smith (TE, TB)

...

missed Ben Watson by 2 picks in round 11. was a gamble i wouldn't take in a real draft and i would get a 2nd QB too.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I get that, but we're not talking about ten team leagues, never were, and I have stated that a few times. Don't get all sarcastic and snippy about it.

Oh lighten up, bro. I know you're the author, but we're here to talk about the #8 slot. Not "hey let's only discuss the league size / scoring that evilgrin72 uses" If it annoys you that I dared to discuss a 10 team league, then I'll deal.Yes, per your league settings, RB/WR will probably be very sound unless, like you said, an RB slips through the cracks. As is oft repeated, the motto is to be flexible and dynamic so that you can jump on that opportunity if it occurs. After that, I think you'd almost have to go back to an RB due to the depth of WRs vs the depth of RBs. A good value play is really needed there. A lot of people are high on Chester Taylor and then there is the ever-reliable Warrick Dunn if you want some consistent yardage performance and a probable top 20 RB (excluding TD-heavy leagues). Unless they've gone RB insane, I'd expect one of them to be present for round 3. If not, that means there's probably some serious value to be found somewhere else. Some people mention snagging both Rhodes & Addai or even waiting for round 4 to get Foster & Williams for a RBBC, but I personally prefer simply staying away from murky RB situations.

Look, anyone on this board can tell you that I can break balls with the best of them, but I am not hording this thread as a proprietary thing. It doesn't have to comply to MY league, but a) FBG standard is a 12-team league when discussing draft slots and 2) I mentioned in the first couple sentences of the opening thread that we were discussing the 8 slot out of 12. You can feel free to start a different thread for 10-team leagues. And it doesn't annoy me that you "dared to discuss a 10 team league" - it's the fact that you asked the question of 10 vs. 12, I answered you, and you felt the need to start posting "Capt. Obvious photos" and saying that "even sarcasm went over my head." That's not necessary. I simply didn't want to confuse the aim of the thread. When you start discussing different league sizes and different picks, things get muddied. Why not start discussing 16-team leagues too? The # of teams in the league defines a draft strategy and I want to keep the thread on point. It may sound like I'm being hypersensitive here - I'm not upset or annoyed at all, I just try to adhere to the "no pissing in the Shark Pool" edict. If you want to break my nuts, go to the FFA, or better yet, check out :e:. There, we can smack each other around all day. That aside, your reasoning above is very sound, and I agree 100%. That's the exact attitude I am going to take going in.

10 team leagues are for the weak! For people who can't handle have 2 or 3 great RB's.....not as much skill involved.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

just did a mock from the 8 spot in a 12-team league and it turned out like this:1Ronnie Brown (RB, MIA)2Terrell Owens (WR, DAL)3Reuben Droughns (RB, CLE)4Warrick Dunn (RB, ATL)5Deion Branch (WR, NE)6Eddie Kennison (WR, KC)7Rod Smith (WR, DEN)8Marion Barber (RB, DAL)9Braylon Edwards (WR, CLE)10Aaron Brooks (QB, OAK)11Alex Smith (TE, TB)...missed Ben Watson by 2 picks in round 11. was a gamble i wouldn't take in a real draft and i would get a 2nd QB too.

That's pretty damned solid. Decent starting backs, good backup - very good WR corps, good QB.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I get that, but we're not talking about ten team leagues, never were, and I have stated that a few times. Don't get all sarcastic and snippy about it.

Oh lighten up, bro. I know you're the author, but we're here to talk about the #8 slot. Not "hey let's only discuss the league size / scoring that evilgrin72 uses" If it annoys you that I dared to discuss a 10 team league, then I'll deal.Yes, per your league settings, RB/WR will probably be very sound unless, like you said, an RB slips through the cracks. As is oft repeated, the motto is to be flexible and dynamic so that you can jump on that opportunity if it occurs. After that, I think you'd almost have to go back to an RB due to the depth of WRs vs the depth of RBs. A good value play is really needed there. A lot of people are high on Chester Taylor and then there is the ever-reliable Warrick Dunn if you want some consistent yardage performance and a probable top 20 RB (excluding TD-heavy leagues). Unless they've gone RB insane, I'd expect one of them to be present for round 3. If not, that means there's probably some serious value to be found somewhere else. Some people mention snagging both Rhodes & Addai or even waiting for round 4 to get Foster & Williams for a RBBC, but I personally prefer simply staying away from murky RB situations.

Look, anyone on this board can tell you that I can break balls with the best of them, but I am not hording this thread as a proprietary thing. It doesn't have to comply to MY league, but a) FBG standard is a 12-team league when discussing draft slots and 2) I mentioned in the first couple sentences of the opening thread that we were discussing the 8 slot out of 12. You can feel free to start a different thread for 10-team leagues. And it doesn't annoy me that you "dared to discuss a 10 team league" - it's the fact that you asked the question of 10 vs. 12, I answered you, and you felt the need to start posting "Capt. Obvious photos" and saying that "even sarcasm went over my head." That's not necessary. I simply didn't want to confuse the aim of the thread. When you start discussing different league sizes and different picks, things get muddied. Why not start discussing 16-team leagues too? The # of teams in the league defines a draft strategy and I want to keep the thread on point. It may sound like I'm being hypersensitive here - I'm not upset or annoyed at all, I just try to adhere to the "no pissing in the Shark Pool" edict. If you want to break my nuts, go to the FFA, or better yet, check out :e:. There, we can smack each other around all day. That aside, your reasoning above is very sound, and I agree 100%. That's the exact attitude I am going to take going in.

10 team leagues are for the weak! For people who can't handle have 2 or 3 great RB's.....not as much skill involved.

Agreed.

 

[Shrek]

just did a mock from the 8 spot in a 12-team league and it turned out like this:1Ronnie Brown (RB, MIA)2Terrell Owens (WR, DAL)3Reuben Droughns (RB, CLE)4Warrick Dunn (RB, ATL)5Deion Branch (WR, NE)6Eddie Kennison (WR, KC)7Rod Smith (WR, DEN)8Marion Barber (RB, DAL)9Braylon Edwards (WR, CLE)10Aaron Brooks (QB, OAK)11Alex Smith (TE, TB)...missed Ben Watson by 2 picks in round 11. was a gamble i wouldn't take in a real draft and i would get a 2nd QB too.

This is a pretty good team that basically employs the strategy I was talking about. Did you feel that you were drafting with people who knew what they were doing? Or did it feel like guppies making stretch picks that left you players you wouldn't find in a normal draft?

 

[Acrobat7]

just did a mock from the 8 spot in a 12-team league and it turned out like this:1Ronnie Brown (RB, MIA)2Terrell Owens (WR, DAL)3Reuben Droughns (RB, CLE)4Warrick Dunn (RB, ATL)5Deion Branch (WR, NE)6Eddie Kennison (WR, KC)7Rod Smith (WR, DEN)8Marion Barber (RB, DAL)9Braylon Edwards (WR, CLE)10Aaron Brooks (QB, OAK)11Alex Smith (TE, TB)...missed Ben Watson by 2 picks in round 11. was a gamble i wouldn't take in a real draft and i would get a 2nd QB too.

This is a pretty good team that basically employs the strategy I was talking about. Did you feel that you were drafting with people who knew what they were doing? Or did it feel like guppies making stretch picks that left you players you wouldn't find in a normal draft?

at least 10 of the 12 knew what they were doing. we agreed to not draft any defenses or kickers in the first 11 rounds and no one did.i guess i took a lot of reliable but not flashy players in Branch/Kennison/Rod Smith and Dunn/Droughns and that's why they were still there.i do not like my TE-situation and would have drafted one in rd9 or 10 in a real draft. if manning doesn't fall to me i round 2 i will probaly go QBBC, as there were several still on the board in rd11.

 

[Shrek]

just did a mock from the 8 spot in a 12-team league and it turned out like this:1Ronnie Brown (RB, MIA)2Terrell Owens (WR, DAL)3Reuben Droughns (RB, CLE)4Warrick Dunn (RB, ATL)5Deion Branch (WR, NE)6Eddie Kennison (WR, KC)7Rod Smith (WR, DEN)8Marion Barber (RB, DAL)9Braylon Edwards (WR, CLE)10Aaron Brooks (QB, OAK)11Alex Smith (TE, TB)...missed Ben Watson by 2 picks in round 11. was a gamble i wouldn't take in a real draft and i would get a 2nd QB too.

This is a pretty good team that basically employs the strategy I was talking about. Did you feel that you were drafting with people who knew what they were doing? Or did it feel like guppies making stretch picks that left you players you wouldn't find in a normal draft?

at least 10 of the 12 knew what they were doing. we agreed to not draft any defenses or kickers in the first 11 rounds and no one did.i guess i took a lot of reliable but not flashy players in Branch/Kennison/Rod Smith and Dunn/Droughns and that's why they were still there.i do not like my TE-situation and would have drafted one in rd9 or 10 in a real draft. if manning doesn't fall to me i round 2 i will probaly go QBBC, as there were several still on the board in rd11.

Still, solid input.We should have some people post other mock results with the strategies in this thread. In my 12 team league, I am probably 90% leaning toward a RB/WR/RB/WR strategy for the first four rounds at this point, with an allowance for variance after round 2 if significant value drops.

 

[Acrobat7]

the thing with going RB/WR in the first two rounds from the 8th spot in a 12teamer is, IMO what to do if some one drops to 2.05.

will l still take an elite WR at 2.05, if McGahee or Peyton (6pts per TD pass) is there? what about 3.08 if Gates drops?

i like the approach a lot and have my draft in like 14 hours so.

 

[kwille]

Just has my draft (8 spot) in the Ultimate Fantasy Football Pyramid Osiris league.

Start 1QB 1RB 3WR 1 TE 1 Flex 1 DST 1 K

18 rounds - 12 teams

6 pts rush\receive\passing TD

0.04 pts per passing yard

0.1 per rush receive yard

NO ppr

First seven picks went SA,LT,LJ,CP,TB,SJax,L. Jordan

I grabbed Ronnie Brown. I like the upside.

At 2.5, I was looking to go WR and was happy to get my #1 ranked WR Chad Johnson. Smith, Holt, and Owens were taken earlier. FWIW, Manning was gone at 2.2

I wanted to go WR at 3.8 because of the start 3WR requirement. I took Reggie Wayne. K Jones was still available and would have made a nice RB2. Also, Gates went at 3.4

At 4.5 and 5.8, I paired D. Foster and D. Williams. I'm really high on Carolina this year and I think this pairing will easily give me the equivalent of another RB1.

At round 6 and later, I wanted to get value at QB and depth at WR. I also wanted to implement Chase Stuart's Defensive Team By Committee strategy. I decided to wait on TEs, maybe too long.

Here is the entire roster

QB: Bulger, Warner, Ferrotte (cuff for Bulger)

RB: R. Brown, D. Foster, D. Williams, M. Barber III

WR: Chad Johnson, R. Wayne, Rod Smith, K. Curtis, A. Toomer, B. Stokely

TE: V. Davis, J. Wiggins

DST: Miami, New England

K: Wilkins

Hope this helps.

 

[Homey]

thoughts on Manning at #8 in a 2QB 10-team league?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Just has my draft (8 spot) in the Ultimate Fantasy Football Pyramid Osiris league.Start 1QB 1RB 3WR 1 TE 1 Flex 1 DST 1 K18 rounds - 12 teams6 pts rush\receive\passing TD0.04 pts per passing yard0.1 per rush receive yardNO pprFirst seven picks went SA,LT,LJ,CP,TB,SJax,L. JordanI grabbed Ronnie Brown. I like the upside. At 2.5, I was looking to go WR and was happy to get my #1 ranked WR Chad Johnson. Smith, Holt, and Owens were taken earlier. FWIW, Manning was gone at 2.2I wanted to go WR at 3.8 because of the start 3WR requirement. I took Reggie Wayne. K Jones was still available and would have made a nice RB2. Also, Gates went at 3.4At 4.5 and 5.8, I paired D. Foster and D. Williams. I'm really high on Carolina this year and I think this pairing will easily give me the equivalent of another RB1.At round 6 and later, I wanted to get value at QB and depth at WR. I also wanted to implement Chase Stuart's Defensive Team By Committee strategy. I decided to wait on TEs, maybe too long.Here is the entire rosterQB: Bulger, Warner, Ferrotte (cuff for Bulger)RB: R. Brown, D. Foster, D. Williams, M. Barber IIIWR: Chad Johnson, R. Wayne, Rod Smith, K. Curtis, A. Toomer, B. StokelyTE: V. Davis, J. WigginsDST: Miami, New EnglandK: WilkinsHope this helps.

That's a nice looking squad.

 

[Shrek]

thoughts on Manning at #8 in a 2QB 10-team league?

If the rest of your starting lineup is standard (2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, etc), this might be a viable pick. The value in RB and WR is definitely going to still be there at the 2.03 pick. Without knowing your scoring or roster sizes, it's guessing a bit. But it also depends on how much higher you have Manning on your projections as compared to the next QB. If he is significantly higher (as he is on mine), I would think long and hard about taking him at 1.08. It's basic VBD principle. The fact that you start 2 QB's magnifies this.

 

[Homey]

thoughts on Manning at #8 in a 2QB 10-team league?

If the rest of your starting lineup is standard (2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, etc), this might be a viable pick. The value in RB and WR is definitely going to still be there at the 2.03 pick. Without knowing your scoring or roster sizes, it's guessing a bit. But it also depends on how much higher you have Manning on your projections as compared to the next QB. If he is significantly higher (as he is on mine), I would think long and hard about taking him at 1.08. It's basic VBD principle. The fact that you start 2 QB's magnifies this.

Nothing standard about this league. 2QB, 3RB, 4WR, 2TE, 2K, 2D/st. 4pt/pass TD, 6pt/run-rec TD. Bonus points at 300yd passing and 100yd run-rec. No points for yards prior to reaching bonus threshold.

 

[TheLaw]

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Well, here's my 8-Team work league draft...(I drafted 8th)

Start-QB/3RB/3WR/Flex (RB/WR)/TE/K/DEF

--5pts pass TD 1 pt per 20yds passing -2 per INT

--1pt per 10 yds rush/rec

--PPR

1.08--R Johnson

2.01--L Jordan

3.08--L Fitzgerald

4.01--A Gates....

5.08--C Palmer

6.01--D Driver

7.08--J Horn

8.01--W Dunn

9.08--J Addai

10.01--J Lewis

11.08--D Mason

12.01--K Warner

13.08--K Mccardell

14.01--A Green

15.08--N Rackers

16.01--V Davis

17.08--M Jenkins

18.01--NYG

19.08--J Wilkins

20.01--DAL

Yes, its a work league, yes I take my #### seriously, however, the other teams look good too. (Granted, its an 8-teamer)

My first after draft thoughts:

--Reggie Bush went early round 3. (I would've snapped him up as my 3rd Rd pick in a heartbeat)

--Favre went undrafted in a Wisconsin league.

--People forgot all about Daunte. IF I hadn't drafted Palmer, C-Pep was a literal gold mine for the folks waiting on QB's. (I didn't want to go into the season with 2 ?'s at QB)

--There are TE's aplenty this year.

--Out of the 1st 15 picks, 12 were RB...1 QB (Manning)...2 WR (Smiff/TO)

--Handcuff, Handcuff, handcuff....With the amount of information out there, even the guppy has a fighting chance. I was shocked to see the amount of picks used on quality backup RB's.

I don't have the time, yet I'd post the other rosters if others are interested sometime tommorrow. Not very many "interesting" picks, IMO. Everyone drafted well.

Enjoy the 8 spot kids...

 

[Vikes Fan]

How does Portis' injury change the 8th slot? Thoughts? If he falls to 8 do you take him?

 

[Shrek]

How does Portis' injury change the 8th slot? Thoughts? If he falls to 8 do you take him?

This is the $64,000 question. Right now I am leaning away from taking him here. I know he wants to play, but if he rushes his return, he could screw up his whole season. The thing that sucks to me is now there is less chance of someone like SJax dropping to me.

 

[TheLaw]

How does Portis' injury change the 8th slot? Thoughts? If he falls to 8 do you take him?

Like most things, it depends, although I will have serious trouble passing on him as I had him ranked #2 overall before the injury. In a 10-teamer I think it is a no brainer to take him actually because you still can get a nice RB on the comeback likely.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

How does Portis' injury change the 8th slot? Thoughts? If he falls to 8 do you take him?

This is the $64,000 question. Right now I am leaning away from taking him here. I know he wants to play, but if he rushes his return, he could screw up his whole season. The thing that sucks to me is now there is less chance of someone like SJax dropping to me.

My GF and I were discussing this this morning. I honestly don't know what I would do if Portis were there at 8.

 

[TheLaw]

How does Portis' injury change the 8th slot? Thoughts? If he falls to 8 do you take him?

This is the $64,000 question. Right now I am leaning away from taking him here. I know he wants to play, but if he rushes his return, he could screw up his whole season. The thing that sucks to me is now there is less chance of someone like SJax dropping to me.

My GF and I were discussing this this morning. I honestly don't know what I would do if Portis were there at 8.

I think youhave to take him barring some news of ligament damage. The kid is tough and game 1 isnt until Monday Sept. 11. He has plenty of time to heal. Getting him at 8 may be a huge steal.

 

[tangfoot]

Does anyone have thoughts about a 13-team draft? I'm #8 and obviously I need to approach it more like a 14-team than a 12.

Oh, it's also the first year of a keeper.

Reggie Bush at #8? Take the #1 WR and pray for good RB scraps on the return at #19?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Does anyone have thoughts about a 13-team draft? I'm #8 and obviously I need to approach it more like a 14-team than a 12.Oh, it's also the first year of a keeper.Reggie Bush at #8? Take the #1 WR and pray for good RB scraps on the return at #19?

I might take Bush.

 

[tangfoot]

Does anyone have thoughts about a 13-team draft? I'm #8 and obviously I need to approach it more like a 14-team than a 12.Oh, it's also the first year of a keeper.Reggie Bush at #8? Take the #1 WR and pray for good RB scraps on the return at #19?

I might take Bush.

Well, that's better than the "WTF are you thinking?" reply that I was expecting...

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Does anyone have thoughts about a 13-team draft? I'm #8 and obviously I need to approach it more like a 14-team than a 12.Oh, it's also the first year of a keeper.Reggie Bush at #8? Take the #1 WR and pray for good RB scraps on the return at #19?

I might take Bush.

Well, that's better than the "WTF are you thinking?" reply that I was expecting...

Nah. I think Bush is very possibly a top 10-15 back this year (depending on PPR/pts. per yard) and is going to be a force down the road. Grabbing him now in a keeper would be a great move.

 

[TheLaw]

Seriously considering Manning now at #8, with the possibility of Caddy on the comeback. Sound feasible??

(although if Portis is there at #8, I dont see how I could pass on him)

 

[tangfoot]

Seriously considering Manning now at #8, with the possibility of Caddy on the comeback. Sound feasible??(although if Portis is there at #8, I dont see how I could pass on him)

I'm waiting on the result of the #7 pick as we speak.I can chose from the following, minus whoever is taken at #7eytonPortisEdgeJordanBushEvery single WRI don't pick again until #19, so this one better be good.I'm thinking Portis, and either Bush or the remainder of the top 6 WRs on the way back.

 

[Shrek]

9 rounds into a 12 team, very competitive draft as we speak from the 8 spot. I'll post this now that I've got my starting lineup mostly set. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1Flex, 1TE, 1K, 1Def - standard FBG scoring with .5ppr.1. Steven Jackson - would have been happy with Rudi, Brown here - Brown wasn't available in my draft, Rudi was. This isn't a tough pick from the 8 spot, imo. You've got options.2. Steve Smith - This pick sucked. I picked the 2nd WR off the board (CJ went first) and the next six picks were WR I liked almost as well. Tried to trade down, but everyone else was looking at the same thing I was.3. Jamal Lewis - I got lucky here - Lewis was the very last of a tier - next RB taken was Dillon in the 4th, after that it was Addai. I'm not scottybo, so I'm not that high on Dillon this year. RB's go very, very fast in this league.4. Hines Ward - Was pretty pleased to land Ward here. Best available RB was Benson/Bell at this pick. Roy Williams went one pick before mine5. Thomas Jones - Again, the very ### end of a tier here. I had planned to go RB/WR/RB/WR/RB/RB from the get go, and like the 3rd round, I barely got someone I liked here.6. LenDale White - One of the last RB's with any sort of shot at the starting spot. I like the kid more than most, so was pretty pleased to grab him here.7. Michael Vick - was QB8 in total points in our scoring system last year, and #7 in PPG. Seems to have some upside from there, even. He plays one more game at his average ppg and he's QB4. Had fewer single digit point games than either Manning, Hasslebeck, and a few of the other QB taken earlier than him. in 4pt/TD leagues I think he's serious value - amazing considering how overrated he used to be.8. Kellen Winslow Jr. - Still had a few TE's who's ADP was above his available, but I liked the guy. Didn't know for sure if he'd be around at 9.08, so I was happy to reach a round and nab the guy I really wanted, because I thought there'd be a WR3 I liked available in 9.9. Michael Clayton - A risk, but we'll see if he can rebound. Turf toe doesn't make me happy, but I love the upside in round 9.QB - VickRB - Jackson, Lewis, T. Jones, L. WhiteWR - S. Smith, Ward, ClaytonTE - WinslowDon't know if this helps folks or not - but I've been pretty happy with hitting the end of some tiers from the 8 spot this year. Each of my first 4 picks were below their ADP, which shocked me.Oh - and yes, I realize whoever plays me in week 7 is going to be jumping for joy

Thanks for posting this. I am looking for as many people to post their #8-out-of-12 draft results as possible between now and next Saturday. I know what I'm thinking, but the more important thing is to see what others are thinking.

 

[Acrobat7]

my first 5 rounds from the 8th position went:

1 RB Ronnie Brown

2 WR Chad Johnson

3 RB Reggie Bush

4 RB Corey Dillon

5 WR Andre Johnson

 

[kurtis96]

my first 5 rounds from the 8th position went:1 RB Ronnie Brown2 WR Chad Johnson3 RB Reggie Bush4 RB Corey Dillon5 WR Andre Johnson

I've read a lot of people high on Ronnie Brown and Rudi in this thread, but almost no mention of Lamont. Does nobody think that the greater focus on north-south offense, new coaching/team philosophy, and a year under his belt as a starter deserves an uptick over last year? I'm projecting him to be there at #8, and I'd be happy to have him. I'd love to hear why others are not as high on him this year as a relatively unproven guy like Brown...I'll admit that Rudi is tempting, but I also seem to remember that many of his fantasy points last year came in the second half. His first half of the season was pretty disappointing...

 

[tangfoot]

Does nobody think that the greater focus on north-south offense, new coaching/team philosophy, and a year under his belt as a starter deserves an uptick over last year?

No. Why do I think so?Two words: Aaron Brooks

 

[kurtis96]

Two words: Aaron Brooks

He had a pretty good year with Kerry Collins back there...and I think Brooks will be fine. He's always been a top-10 QB, with the exception of last year - which was clearly an exceptional year with all that happened in NO...I'm not saying he's a star, but FBG seems to think he'll be back in the top-12 this year...

 

[kbleck]

FYI

My first 4 rounds from the 8th spot in a 12 man league

SJax

Holt (McGahee, Westy, DD, Were still there)

Gates (FWP, Boldin, C.Taylor, Chambers, were still there)

KJones (Jamal Lewis, Droughns, Fred Taylor, C. Taylor were still there)

 

[Shrek]

FYIMy first 4 rounds from the 8th spot in a 12 man leagueSJaxHolt (McGahee, Westy, DD, Were still there)Gates (FWP, Boldin, C.Taylor, Chambers, were still there)KJones (Jamal Lewis, Droughns, Fred Taylor, C. Taylor were still there)

This is uncanny- I have done a few recent projections and mocks, and this is almost exactly what I was coming up with.

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

FYIMy first 4 rounds from the 8th spot in a 12 man leagueSJaxHolt (McGahee, Westy, DD, Were still there)Gates (FWP, Boldin, C.Taylor, Chambers, were still there)KJones (Jamal Lewis, Droughns, Fred Taylor, C. Taylor were still there)

This is uncanny- I have done a few recent projections and mocks, and this is almost exactly what I was coming up with.

how were KJ, Jamal, AND C. Taylor all still available @ 4.05 ?!

 

[Evilgrin 72]

FYIMy first 4 rounds from the 8th spot in a 12 man leagueSJaxHolt (McGahee, Westy, DD, Were still there)Gates (FWP, Boldin, C.Taylor, Chambers, were still there)KJones (Jamal Lewis, Droughns, Fred Taylor, C. Taylor were still there)

This is uncanny- I have done a few recent projections and mocks, and this is almost exactly what I was coming up with.

how were KJ, Jamal, AND C. Taylor all still available @ 4.05 ?!

Yeah.... if that's the case frequently, I am definitely going for a WR in round 3 and waiting on my RB2

 

[Chumpson]

Seriously considering Manning now at #8, with the possibility of Caddy on the comeback. Sound feasible??(although if Portis is there at #8, I dont see how I could pass on him)

I doubt it. I am in a 10 teamer that is currently drafting and I took Manning at 8 hoping for something like that at 2.03, but didn't happen. Here is how it went--L. JohnsonAlexanderTomlinsonBarberS. JacksonR. JohnsonE. JamesP. ManningPortisWilliamsBrownCJthen I took Holt. I might be in trouble, we shall see. I just thought I would go against the norm and have some fun.

 

[bbuster]

9 rounds into a 12 team, very competitive draft as we speak from the 8 spot. I'll post this now that I've got my starting lineup mostly set. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1Flex, 1TE, 1K, 1Def - standard FBG scoring with .5ppr.1. Steven Jackson - would have been happy with Rudi, Brown here - Brown wasn't available in my draft, Rudi was. This isn't a tough pick from the 8 spot, imo. You've got options.2. Steve Smith - This pick sucked. I picked the 2nd WR off the board (CJ went first) and the next six picks were WR I liked almost as well. Tried to trade down, but everyone else was looking at the same thing I was.3. Jamal Lewis - I got lucky here - Lewis was the very last of a tier - next RB taken was Dillon in the 4th, after that it was Addai. I'm not scottybo, so I'm not that high on Dillon this year. RB's go very, very fast in this league.4. Hines Ward - Was pretty pleased to land Ward here. Best available RB was Benson/Bell at this pick. Roy Williams went one pick before mine5. Thomas Jones - Again, the very ### end of a tier here. I had planned to go RB/WR/RB/WR/RB/RB from the get go, and like the 3rd round, I barely got someone I liked here.6. LenDale White - One of the last RB's with any sort of shot at the starting spot. I like the kid more than most, so was pretty pleased to grab him here.7. Michael Vick - was QB8 in total points in our scoring system last year, and #7 in PPG. Seems to have some upside from there, even. He plays one more game at his average ppg and he's QB4. Had fewer single digit point games than either Manning, Hasslebeck, and a few of the other QB taken earlier than him. in 4pt/TD leagues I think he's serious value - amazing considering how overrated he used to be.8. Kellen Winslow Jr. - Still had a few TE's who's ADP was above his available, but I liked the guy. Didn't know for sure if he'd be around at 9.08, so I was happy to reach a round and nab the guy I really wanted, because I thought there'd be a WR3 I liked available in 9.9. Michael Clayton - A risk, but we'll see if he can rebound. Turf toe doesn't make me happy, but I love the upside in round 9.QB - VickRB - Jackson, Lewis, T. Jones, L. WhiteWR - S. Smith, Ward, ClaytonTE - WinslowDon't know if this helps folks or not - but I've been pretty happy with hitting the end of some tiers from the 8 spot this year. Each of my first 4 picks were below their ADP, which shocked me.Oh - and yes, I realize whoever plays me in week 7 is going to be jumping for joy

I've ran several mocks with DD and came up with a few problems with week 7 as well. I'm trying to move things around a million times to come up with different possible scenarios. Good Luck!I'm drafting on Sunday in an internet league that I expect to be shark infested. I'll post what goes down after that.

 

[Foureyes]

Many outstanding posts in this thread. I have the #8 pick in a 12 team league with similar scoring to the league mentioned in EG's first post (except 1/25 pass, 1/10 run/rec). Like many of you guys, I'm planning to go RB/WR (and likely RB/WR in 3 & 4 as well). Some of my thoughts...

I like SJax/Rudi/RBrown in the first (in that order) but will probably take RB if all 3 are available because I'm targeting Holt or Chad in 2nd, and don't want to double up RB/WR from the same team with these picks. I'd take SJax over Rudi, because I'd rather have 2 Rams (in division with SF, Ariz & Seat) than 2 Bengals (with Pitts & Balt). If all three of these guys are gone by the 8th pick, it means somebody let Tiki fall to me. I'd avoid Portis, and if all else fails take Edge or Lamont.

In the second, I'm after Holt unless any of the RBs mentioned above drop to 2.05. I really doubt that's happening in my league. Even with Martz gone, and even if Bulger goes down, I think you can count on Holt for his usual 1200-1300 and 12-14 TDs. If he's taken, I want Chad. I think SSmith will be gone, and both Moss & TO give me the creeps this year. I've got Harrison ranked behind Holt and CJ.My league starts 1RB, 1WR, and 2 flex, so you have to have a stud RB and a stud WR...IMO, this makes WR1 more valuable than RB2 (unless your RB1 gets injured, in which case you're completely screwed).

Reggie Bush doesn't seem to be an option. Theres no way I take him at 2.05, and he always gone by the late 2nd/early 3rd in the mocks I've run, both live and on the DD. Same with Chester Taylor and a few other RB2s like Jamal & Dunn. Although I'm not a big fan of handcuffs (often because the backup s***s enough that I'd look elsewhere if my starter went down), I'm targeting DFoster in the 3rd with the thought that Ill grab DeAngelo Williams in the 7th or 8th. I'm comfortable with the thought of having the Carolina starter (whoever it is) as my RB2, even in the black and blue NFC south.

On a similar note, I've seen Fred Taylor fall to me at 5.08 in a few drafts. I've grabbed him as a RB3, and been able to get Greg Jones (around the 9th or 10th).

That leaves me the 4th and 6th rounds to grab a WR2 and QB. I'm looking to hold off at QB and target Reggie Wayne, who has fallen to me at 4.05 in most drafts. It seems every year Wayne's numbers are a little better and Harrison's a little worse. RWilliams, Boldin and Driver are other possibilities, although some or all of them may be gone. No matter what, I'd pretty much locked into taking my highest ranked WR2 here, unless the value at QB is much better (doubtful).

In the 6th, I'd love to see Palmer or Eli available, but it probably won't happen. I've gotten Warner here in a few drafts, and Culpepper fell this far once (not counting on that, tho). If I take an established vet (with some downside) like Bulger, Warner, Green or Favre, I'll probably back him up late with Simms (who I'm high on to step up his game this year0 or Rivers (somebody has to dump it off to LT and Gates).

One last thing...my ultimate sleeper is Koenen, Atlanta's K. He's going undrafted most of the time. He's playing in a dome, in a division where treams get held to FGs consistently and games get won 13-9, and he's lights out so far in preseason.

I seem to be able to wind up with a lineup that looks like:

QB Warner/Simms

RB RBrown

DFoster/DWilliams

FTaylor/GJones

WR Holt

RWayne

This thread has helped me quite a bit in developing my draft plan, hopefully my 2 cents help you guys as well...

 

[Angry Beavers]

fwiw: 8 th in a 14 teamerpr/2qb starter/2 wr start

1st - RBrown

2nd - Owens ( holt, cj and smith gone)

3rd - fast willie parker ( rb's getting thin)

4th - Brady ( 2nd qb - taken)

5th - dillon

6th - muhammad wr

glta

 

[tangfoot]

FWIW, here is how my 13-team is shaking out so far.

1.08 - Portis

2.06 - R. Bush

This is the first year of a keeper. I could have had Moss or Marvin in round 2.

This is a must-start 2 RBs league, 3 optional. RBs are super dooper huge if you've got two studs.

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

doing a mock right now @ 1.08 -- gonna take Manning first and report back what the team looks like through 10 rounds

1.08 P Manning (QB 1)

2.05 B Westbrook (RB 1)

3.08 C Taylor (RB 2)

4.05 D Driver (WR 1)

5.08 J Horn (WR 2)

6.05 L Evans (WR 3)

7.08 Chi D (D 1)

8.05 L Maroney (RB 3)

9.08 T Glenn (WR 4)

10.05 M Barber (RB 4)

11.08 LJ Smith (TE 1)

12.05 S McNair (QB 2)

13.08 T Williamson (WR 5)

14.05 M Turner (RB 5)

15.08 N Kaeding (K 1)

I don't mind the team through round 4. After that I'm displeased with my RB depth and some shakey picks. Don't think I'll be taking Manning @ 1.08 ...

 

[Shrek]

doing a mock right now @ 1.08 -- gonna take Manning first and report back what the team looks like through 10 rounds1.08 P Manning (QB 1)2.05 B Westbrook (RB 1)3.08 C Taylor (RB 2)4.05 D Driver (WR 1)5.08 J Horn (WR 2)6.05 L Evans (WR 3)7.08 Chi D (D 1)8.05 L Maroney (RB 3)9.08 T Glenn (WR 4)10.05 M Barber (RB 4)11.08 LJ Smith (TE 1)12.05 S McNair (QB 2)13.08 T Williamson (WR 5) 14.05 M Turner (RB 5)15.08 N Kaeding (K 1)

I think both Evans and especially Williamson are going to be money for those draft slots. A bit thinner than I would like at RB, but for the tradeoff to get Manning, and with the upside of Maroney and Barber, I think it's a chance worth taking. I probably would have sluffed DEF until 9 or 10 though. Overall, not bad.