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86% of strident conservatives think the poor "have it easy" (1 Viewer)

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People who feel like the way to get ahead in life is to work less are embittered because they're choosing to work more? :confused:

 
Only in america will you hear that the poor have it easy. If things were easy for them then they wouldnt be considered poor.

 
MaxThreshold said:
By American standards they are poor. by world standards - not so much.
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Dont world standards improve because countries like america set a different line? The goal should be global progress and that starts with one society and spreads. At this point in our technology there should be no truly poor. We only still have it because of greed.

There are plenty of poor americans living in tent cities in the forest that dont have it much better than people in a third world country.

 
MaxThreshold said:
By American standards they are poor. by world standards - not so much.
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And that's really what they're saying. Only way to make sense of the seeming illogic of the position.

They don't actually think the poor have it easy. They merely resent that the poor seem to have it a little TOO easy for their tastes. They'd like to see a little more suffering in exchange for all the hard work and tax money Fox News swears to them the poor are siphoning straight out of their pockets.

 
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Read the poll question: "Poor people have hard lives because government benefits don't go far enough to help them live decently, or poor people have it easy because they can get government benefits without doing anything?" It's a bull#### question. :thumbdown:

 
They surveyed .003% of the American population. Just goes to show again, you can make stats and surveys say anything you want it to.

 
There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. And I mean, the president starts off with 48, 49, 48—he starts off with a huge number. These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn't connect. And he'll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. I mean that's what they sell every four years. And so my job is not to worry about those people—I'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.

 
The whole survey is really interesting and well done but the intent isn't really to look at a nuanced view of any particular issue. The intent is to see how people respond to wide range of intentionally polarizing statements to demonstrate how closely aligned or divergent the responses are across groups.

I'm sure in a vacuum nowhere close to 80% of conservatives would respond yes to "do the poor have it easy." I think what conservatives and liberals are mainly responding to in that question is the government benefits part.

 
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DaVinci said:
Read the poll question: "Poor people have hard lives because government benefits don't go far enough to help them live decently, or poor people have it easy because they can get government benefits without doing anything?" It's a bull#### question. :thumbdown:
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This is really the problem here. The person who concocted this survey deserves a robocop crotch punt.

 
Arsenal of Doom said:
The whole survey is really interesting and well done but the intent isn't really to look at a nuanced view of any particular issue. The intent is to see how people respond to wide range of intentionally polarizing statements to demonstrate how closely aligned or divergent the responses are across groups.

I'm sure in a vacuum nowhere close to 80% of conservatives would respond yes to "do the poor have it easy." I think what conservatives and liberals are mainly responding to in that question is the government benefits part.
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I find it uninteresting.

 
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Lol. Poor in America is nothing compared to poor in every other country. Poor in America means you only have 2 tvs, 1 car, indoor plumbing, access to food and clean water, and now health care. That's a stupid article.

 
John Bender said:
Lol. Poor in America is nothing compared to poor in every other country. Poor in America means you only have 2 tvs, 1 car, indoor plumbing, access to food and clean water, and now health care. That's a stupid article.
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Sounds like they just described your stance perfectly. Own it.

 
BigSteelThrill said:
John Bender said:
Lol. Poor in America is nothing compared to poor in every other country. Poor in America means you only have 2 tvs, 1 car, indoor plumbing, access to food and clean water, and now health care. That's a stupid article.
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Sounds like they just described your stance perfectly. Own it.
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I'm not a conservative though. I was under the impression this was a jab at conservatives article? I'm just a guy who has a realistic world view and feels lucky to be a poor American instead of a poor (insert any other country here)
 
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John Bender said:
BigSteelThrill said:
John Bender said:
lucky to be a poor American
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Everybody is lucky to be in America. You aren't lucky to be poor.
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I feel pretty lucky. :shrug:

I'm imagining that's one of the reasons we have such an issue with the border (which I have no stance on). America is a great place to be poor.
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The world is not hard to figure out. Money, money and more money..........why do the poor get so much here.......because the people in charge want to keep them happy and they know that the money they give out will come back to them and let them keep power. Why can you not play internet poker in the US (a few states aside recently)? Because they did not have a cut of that money. Things are really simple if you know the people in powers goal.

 
I've seen what poverty looks like in Asia and Latin America, and frankly real poverty here isn't much different. What's different about the poverty here and in developing countries is that there just isn't nearly as much of it so it's easier to overlook.

Africa seems like a pretty tough place to be poor, but then again it seems like a tough place to live with money too.

 
Arsenal of Doom said:
I've seen what poverty looks like in Asia and Latin America, and frankly real poverty here isn't much different. What's different about the poverty here and in developing countries is that there just isn't nearly as much of it so it's easier to overlook.

Africa seems like a pretty tough place to be poor, but then again it seems like a tough place to live with money too.
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I went to Gannon University..........Akul Tong when there from the Sudan. He was really close with Manute Bol. He would call him his brother but I think they were from the same tribe not actually brothers. Akul freshman year he happen to be placed in a 4 person housing and 3 of them were TKE. Akul was at least 7'. He was not much of a basketball player either for his size. Gannon is high end D2, he didn't play much. But he always hung out at the frat house on weekends, One thing our frat did good was make him a member and not make him pledge, we were all good friends with him and knew that that would just be wrong considering what he told us about his life.

He got he degree in Engineering and as soon as he got that he wanted to go back to the Sudan and help his people. Many people begged him not to go back and he knew that life was easier here. But he had to go back because he knew had bad things were there. I am not on facebook, but when I was in 2009 I tried to find him and Akol Tong is like Mike Smith here. I friend one guy but I serious don't think it was him.

He was devastated when Barkley didn't come to his graduation, Bol told him here would be there. But he got a taste of simple living and freedom and he went back to try to help his own in the worst place in the world. I don't know if he is alive or dead but he is a great person.

 
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Just divide and conquer politics. A lot easier to get you to think your neighbors are screwing you over then some banker you can't even imagine.

Like SoCal's illegal immigrant "problem." People who don't really panhandle but do work 8am-10pm for minimum wage six days a week at jobs you would never even apply at. We are feed that is the problem instead that they are the coal that fires the engine.

 
Daywalker said:
Just divide and conquer politics. A lot easier to get you to think your neighbors are screwing you over then some banker you can't even imagine.

Like SoCal's illegal immigrant "problem." People who don't really panhandle but do work 8am-10pm for minimum wage six days a week at jobs you would never even apply at. We are feed that is the problem instead that they are the coal that fires the engine.
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:goodposting:

 
DaVinci said:
Read the poll question: "Poor people have hard lives because government benefits don't go far enough to help them live decently, or poor people have it easy because they can get government benefits without doing anything?" It's a bull#### question. :thumbdown:
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They are saying that the government is already doing enough. That is the question. Should the government do more? Stupid poll and terrible spin. Typical crap from BST.

 
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