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A difference between Peyton and Brady (1 Viewer)
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scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
It is annoying as hell, I agree. I wonder what the guy is like to play with/for. He's pissed off at everybody if they ever happen to make a mistake. He never looks like he's enjoying himself unless he's on one of his dopey commercials.
I'll bet the dude's blood pressure is through the roof.
I'll bet the dude's blood pressure is through the roof.
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btw, how many threads are left? And when they're all used up - what happens?
Borat
Footballguy
Ridiculous thread, but okay, I'll bite.Put a camera on Brady and I doubt you can tell the frustration he feels when his teammates screw up. Manning makes no secret of it.Another difference: 3 rings for Brady and 1 for Manning.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
I bet your jealousy puts your BP through the roof.
Not sure why it's such a ridiculous thing to point out. I would imagine when Vinateri watches the tape and sees Manning make the gasface and flail his arms in disgust it doesn't make him feel all warm and fuzzy towards the team leader. I'll bet Peyton feels like a heal when he sees it too.I actually like the guy a lot as a QB and a person but he should work on this.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I mentioned the BP because he looks like a ball of stress to me. I'm not sure what I did to warrant an attack from you. Is that you Peyton?Merry Christmas
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I agree. I think it's a worthy topic because Peyton is the only one you see doing this on a consistent basis.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
Players deserve "the face" when they screw up. I bet you come from the generation of "you're ok, and I'm ok", and "everyone gets a trophy for participating", and "inside voice", and "let's not hurt his feelings". That's one of the things that's wrong with our society today
Is this good or bad?
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
You're definitely not OK with this topic. Wow!Players deserve "the face" when they screw up. I bet you come from the generation of "you're ok, and I'm ok", and "everyone gets a trophy for participating", and "inside voice", and "let's not hurt his feelings". That's one of the things that's wrong with our society today
I'd say not showing up teammates is a good thing.
Does it really make a difference? He shows his emotions, big deal. Yes he looked like a little baby after Vinatieri missed the fg before half, but so does Brady running toward the ref tugging on his jersey every time he throws an incompletion. What do you want him to do? Sit there? Show no emotion? I'm sure some of it wasn't all about Vinatieri missing the kick, I think some of it had to do with the play calling down there. You have Manning whose 15 for 15 and 2nd and 5 and you hand the ball off twice to a RB averaging 1 ypc. He executed a perfect drive and ended up with nothing to show for it, how would you feel?
He shouldn't feel all warm and fuzzy. He just missed a gimme FG.
I'll take that bet.
Not really.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
I say not being overly sensitive is a better thing.
How is it showing up a teammate?
sho nuff
Footballguy
Exactly...wow, you mean an NFL QB is ultra competitive? Really?
It has nothing to do with showing up his teammates. He is a very competitive guy who is also emotional. It is ok to have fire and show emotion. The key is to not let that emotion affect your play, which he does not. He is a proven winner. He just has a different personality type than Brady. It isn't a bad thing.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I don't know, I guess I'd feel like one of Manning's teammates in the past when you're mounting a comeback and Peyton throws a stupid INT. Good grief, the guy doesn't walk on water.
Oh, I don't know. Maybe Peyton should have just kept quiet, brought Adam a cup of Gatorade and given him a shoulder to cry on.
assuming you're being serious,
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Where is this ridiculous notion that Brady never yells at his teammates coming from? At least when Peyton gets on them it's because they genuinely screwed up. Several times last year Brady sat in the pocket for 6 seconds before getting sacked and then had the nerve to get up in a lineman's face about it.
Poor Brady, your elite pass blocking unit only gave you twice as much time to throw as everyone else in the league on that play, better show them how ungrateful you are.
Poor Brady, your elite pass blocking unit only gave you twice as much time to throw as everyone else in the league on that play, better show them how ungrateful you are.
Tau837
Footballguy
Exactly. He's human, Vinatieri is human, every now and then people make mistakes and it's perfectly acceptable to be disappointed in that, and even show that disappointment. It's not like Manning got into his face and started yelling at him. To me, it isn't showing up a teammate as someone suggested, it shows that he cares about winning the game. He shows just as much disappointment in himself when he throws a stupid INT as he did when Vinatieri missed that kick.
Borat
Footballguy
That's funny - I watched every minute of every game last season, and I don't recall this happening at all.
Chaka
Footballguy
And when that happens I guarantee you that no one is harder on Manning then himself.I have no problem with him showing his emotion. It's better than the Mike Vicks' and Aaron Brooks' of the world laughing and joking on the sidelines when their team is getting creamed.
No, GREAT post. I'm not that old, but I absolutely refuse to raise my children like that. Way too much grey area in the grey matter of developing children and young adults. Right != Wrong.....ever. Lose != Win....ever. Sportsmaship != Poor Sport....ever. Competitive != Lala-everybody-happy....ever. You can be a good sport, good loser, and not like watching other people fail to perform at the level they are capable of for no real reason. Ever see Peyton's face when he makes a terrible mistake? Looks like a carbon copy of "the face" he gives his teamates when they screw-up or lose focus.Ever watch a guy named Micheal Jordan play? Yeah, you bet your ### that his teamates got a lot of "the face" when they weren't D-ing up when they needed to be. 
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scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
This thread is awesome. Lot's of slamming on over-sensitivity by a bunch of over-sensitive posters. 
Marvin88
Footballguy
Put a camera on Brady and you see him chewing out his lineman on the field.
The difference you are looking for is that Manning is one of the all time great QB's. Brady is a media fabrication of greatness as we now see with Cassel's success. Rodney Peete would be a HOF'er in the Pats system.
The difference you are looking for is that Manning is one of the all time great QB's. Brady is a media fabrication of greatness as we now see with Cassel's success. Rodney Peete would be a HOF'er in the Pats system.
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Come on man, I absolutely think Brady is overrated by the masses, but he's still one top 2 QB's in the league today and does deserve to be mentioned among the greats. Thats not fair to say b/c of Cassel's "success" Brady is system QB. The system does have a lot to do with it, but Brady made that system virtually unstoppable. Cassel is nowhere near that.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
You obviously know very little about NFL football.Marvin88 said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
John Salley of the NBA 6 rings- So whatBorat said:
hardcoredx
Footballguy
+1If anything, Manning is more of a media fabrication. The bottom line is winning. Manning will get run over by Pittsburgh or any solid defense in the playoffs (again). Brady has never had a stud like James or Harrision on offense. He has only played with Moss for 1 season. He is at least 1 level above Manning
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Salley was a role player.Brady is a leader.Use Michael Jordan as the comparison to Brady's Championships and it will make much more sense.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
...and here....we........GO!Another Manning vs Brady thread. Been a while, I guess.Although I make fun of Deputy Dog as much as the next guy, Brady is known to scream at his teammates on the field, so neither guy is innocent.Having said that, the Manning scowl / throwing of the hands / shaking the head / and walking away move should be patented, as both Peyton and Eli perform the maneuver like no other...Why Me? said:
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
This whole thread is the same old song that gets played too much.Salley was a role player.Brady is a leader.Use Michael Jordan as the comparison to Brady's Championships and it will make much more sense.
Hoss_Cartwright said:Players deserve "the face" when they screw up. I bet you come from the generation of "you're ok, and I'm ok", and "everyone gets a trophy for participating", and "inside voice", and "let's not hurt his feelings". That's one of the things that's wrong with our society todayWhy Me? said:
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
I agree.The John Salley reference set me off.I'll put this thread where it belongs...... to bed.This whole thread is the same old song that gets played too much.Salley was a role player.Brady is a leader.Use Michael Jordan as the comparison to Brady's Championships and it will make much more sense.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Ha.....it's funny because it's true.Brady can be a whiney little sissy who screams at his linemen if his pants get a grass stain. He has turned into such a pretty boy since his UM days.Peyton should have all 4 of those things patented......so true. Deputy Dog? I was thinking Droopy myself.Eli just looks like the pimply faced tweenager that thinks everything's boring and everything sucks. He gets excited about nothing but has to verbally tell you he's having a good time for you to realize it.
switz
Footballguy
Cassel is in his first year starting, give him time. Comparing a first year starter to a guy who played what, 8 years?, is ridiculous. But Cassel's success this season does show how much/little an impact Brady really has had... put any average QB back there and you have a winning team. Slightly better than average and you can win a couple SBs.Modog814 said:
encaitar
Footballguy
Well, if you watched the game last night you would've seen Peyton yelling before they even attempted the field goal. He wasn't happy about the ####ty play calling not giving them a chance to score a TD. The missed field goal, which was basically a chip shot, was just the cherry on his pissed off sundae.
Why shouldn't he be angry at all that? He hadn't thrown an incompletion the entire half and they had a chance to tie the game at the half despite a terrible performance by their D. A guy like Manning should want the ball in his hands. He EXPECTS to win and when things don't go right, he shouldn't have to put on a happy face to appease all the easily upset pseudo fans.
Why shouldn't he be angry at all that? He hadn't thrown an incompletion the entire half and they had a chance to tie the game at the half despite a terrible performance by their D. A guy like Manning should want the ball in his hands. He EXPECTS to win and when things don't go right, he shouldn't have to put on a happy face to appease all the easily upset pseudo fans.
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