Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
agreed
OMG Andy... your face is all squished.
I agree that the price is very steep, your top 2 picks. However, Here is my logic:Schaub has proved he can play and be a very productive NFL QB, unlike Leinart, Young, or Cutler. He's going to be a very good starter. There was an article I read (possibly from a link in a post here) that a NFL executive or good writer said he'd trade for a guy like Schaub who's proven something at the NFl level rather than take a risk and draft a QB. Mike Holmgrenn traded for Matt Hasselbeck with a high pick (was it a first?) while he was still sitting on Green Bay's bench and having seen far less action than Schaub has so far. Schaub has also been playing in a WCO in Atlanta and played in a hybrid WC system at Virginia. Mike Vick hasn't reached his potential yet (and may never do so) and Schaub might be the best QB in Atlanta right now.
although the Pack are in a rebuilding mode, the recent return of Favre notwithstanding
Getting an additional pick for Schaub would be nice. The Vikings could use 3rd rounder to go for defense.See below for comments on drafting a QB rather than trading for one with NFL experience.
Agreed. As I mentioned in my earlier post, he's shown SIGNS of being solid, but not spectacular. He's certainly not worth a high 1st round pick, but a mid to late 1st round pick is probably fair. He reminds me of a young Matt Hasselbeck, somewhat mobile, strong arm, and tough. We'll see. If Cutler isn't there at #17, and the Vikings don't trade up, I can see this trade for #17 overall happeningHe has?IMHO he's proven less that Scott Mitchell proved. What's he, 0-2? 50% completion rate? I think people are remembering a couple preseason games and calling this guy accomplished.
Don't quote me on this, but I believe Seattle traded down from #10 to #17 to get Hasselbeck. There might have been some other picks involved. I was very interested in the trade talks before it went down and there was discussion that Seattle would give up at least a first for him. Turned out they got a very sweet deal for someone who everyone knew had the ability to be a good NFL QB. Schaub is the same type of guy and I think he's worth the #17 pick but the Vikings should be able to get a better deal than that depending on how much the Falcons want to trade him.
There is a certain amount of projection involved but as I mentioned with Hasselbeck, a QB sort of shows up or doesn't show up as an NFL QB. It's nice to see a guy show he can move the ball and I think Schaub has proven he can. He certainly needs seasoning and would have his share of ups and downs the next couple years but as far as talent for NFL starting QB's is concerned, I'd deem him starter material. That's what I'm saying. There has been a lot of interest in Schaub already. I think more than a few would be willing to roll with him as a starter compared to what they have now as starting QB's, Minnesota included. Scream at me that Brad Johnson is still good but he's a 30+++++++++ year old, immobile, no arm left, stop gap QB, who is the perfect guy to mentor a young QB for the franchise: not starting for them in 2 years when the Vikings are (going to try) making a run for the championship.He has?
Also, his completion percentage may have only been 51% but he had a 7.7 YPA and 4 TD's and 0 INT's. In his lone start, Schaub faced off against the Patriots and defensive guru Bill Belichik. He threw for 298 yards and three touchdowns with a completion percentage of 52.9 percent. He also drove the Falcons down the field and tied the game with only minutes left. The Patriots then got the ball and scored with only seventeen seconds remaining, leaving Schaub with too little time to answer.Agreed. As I mentioned in my earlier post, he's shown SIGNS of being solid, but not spectacular. He's certainly not worth a high 1st round pick, but a mid to late 1st round pick is probably fair. He reminds me of a young Matt Hasselbeck, somewhat mobile, strong arm, and tough. We'll see. If Cutler isn't there at #17, and the Vikings don't trade up, I can see this trade for #17 overall happeningHe has?
And for a 2nd stringer to look so poised when not getting the full 1st team reps speaks to his ability too.
25% opinion, 75% fact.It's a facpinion.
OK, now I don't feel so crazy. Now, are your rebuilding Packers going to cough up Walker for a much needed 2nd round pick? Probably not, it's in the division. If the teams weren't in the division I could see it happening very easily though. But the Packers are NOT a championship team this year (and probably not for a year or two more) so it wouldn't be out of the realm of Pluto.Agreed. As I mentioned in my earlier post, he's shown SIGNS of being solid, but not spectacular. He's certainly not worth a high 1st round pick, but a mid to late 1st round pick is probably fair. He reminds me of a young Matt Hasselbeck, somewhat mobile, strong arm, and tough. We'll see. If Cutler isn't there at #17, and the Vikings don't trade up, I can see this trade for #17 overall happeningHe has?
Funniest thing I've heard in a couple of days!
Great!FACPINION - sounds like a good choice for new words in Webster's/Oxford. Hey, if bootylicious makes it, facpinion should be in there. Umm, I strongly DISLIKE the Pack. Have you seen my avatar?Now, are your rebuilding Packers going to cough up Walker for a much needed 2nd round pick?Agreed. As I mentioned in my earlier post, he's shown SIGNS of being solid, but not spectacular. He's certainly not worth a high 1st round pick, but a mid to late 1st round pick is probably fair. He reminds me of a young Matt Hasselbeck, somewhat mobile, strong arm, and tough. We'll see. If Cutler isn't there at #17, and the Vikings don't trade up, I can see this trade for #17 overall happeningHe has?
BRILLIANT!It's so crazy it JUST MIGHT WORK!
