A League of Their Own poll question (1 Viewer)

[toshiba]

I vote that it was not on purpose because nothing in her character in that movie indicated to me that should would do it. And the action itself seemed accidental.

 

[Hellfire Snail]

In the first scene, older Dottie is telling her daughter, " It was never important to me, it was just something I did." Then she tells her grandson " remember he (your little brother) is littler than you so give him a chance to shoot, promise?"

And then there's this:

See the 2:50 point

The last scene of that same clip (starting at 7:30) tells a much different story.Dottie cared about winning and was a team player. She was willing to sacrifice her sister's feelings to give the team the best chance to win. No way she lets all of her team mates down by dropping that ball on purpose.

She wasn't letting them down if they didn't know she did it on purpose. She was willing to sacrifice her sister's feelings all the way up until the moment where she saw her blow through the sign, when she realized she could let it go either way with no one else knowing.

Ah, yes, the ol' "if the tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" argument. If Dottie had shot Kit in the head, and no one knew she did it, would she still be guilty of fratricide? Of course she would. Knowledge of the event doesn't make it more or less legitimate. If Dottie dropped the ball on purpose, she let her team down, period. It doesn't matter if they knew it or not. Are we all prepared to label Dottie a selfish, unreliable quitter? I know I'm not. But a "Yes" vote is a vote for Dottie the loser. Shame on you all.

Ultimately she was faced with the decision of letting her team down or crushing Kit's spirit. Throughout the game, all she wanted was to win. But in that moment, a moment where to hold onto the ball would cause irreparable damage to her sister (which would be different than simply winning the game in a way that didn't come down to Dottie Vs. Kit for the whole thing) she decided to free Kit of her shadow and walk way with her peace of mind in tact.

 

[Kiddnets]

Madonna was hot back in the day - wha happened!

Kit wanted it more

 

[Ghost Rider]

Not on purpose. She was never timid and never gave anything less then 100% on the field throughout the story. She new Kit's weakness and tried to exploit it to win. When Kit hit the ball she couldn't believe it and when she realized Kit was rounding the bases to come home the look in her eye was surprise and she was timid - she hesitated. That was the first time she did that on the field. She didn't want to collide with her sister - she didn't ever envision having to. Instead of standing into the collision and knocking Kit down (which she should of) she braced herself and looked like she didn't want to be there.She didn't drop it on purpose. She dropped it because she hesitated and let her sister get the best of her when she realized that she would have to hit her or take a hit. The look on her face afterwards was acceptance and pride in her sister and relief that she was done.

I like this breakdown of it. Very well-put!

Ultimately she was faced with the decision of letting her team down or crushing Kit's spirit. Throughout the game, all she wanted was to win. But in that moment, a moment where to hold onto the ball would cause irreparable damage to her sister (which would be different than simply winning the game in a way that didn't come down to Dottie Vs. Kit for the whole thing) she decided to free Kit of her shadow and walk way with her peace of mind in tact.

Irreparable damage? Nah. It is not like Kit being out would have ended in defeat. She had already tied the game, so extra innings would have happened had she been out. Had she struck out after Dottie had gotten the winning hit off of her and then Dottie's advice about throwing high pitches got her, then that would have caused irreparable damage.

 

[heckmanm]

The giveaway is when shes standing next to Hanks and smiles. Definitely on purpose.

No, that was her being genuinely happy that her sister got to experience a moment like that.

Also, that's a lot of teef to keep closed up in there for very long.

 

[McJose]

This thread got me to thinking. Can you imagine all of the untamed nether-parts in that locker-room?

 

[zamboni]

This thread got me to thinking. Can you imagine all of the untamed nether-parts in that locker-room?

What a hitter!

 

[Mario Kart]

Dottie Hinson's Real Life Counterpart Dies

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Written by Deena on May-25-10 4:06pm

Dottie Hinson was a character in the 1992 Geena Davis flick A League of Their Own, and the real life inspiration for the part, a woman named Dorothy Kamenshek, died yesterday at 84, according to MLB.com. She passed away in Palm Desert, Calif. of natural causes.

Dorothy Kamenshek inspired the character Dottie Hinson. (Turner.com)

Kamenshek, who went by the name Dottie or Kammie, was an infielder for the Rockford Peaches from 1943-1951. The star was named one of the top 100 female athletes of the century by Sports Illustrated and was selected to 7 All-Star teams before the end of her career in 1953.

"She was the greatest ballplayer in our league," Pepper Paire Davis, a woman who played with Dorothy in the league, said. "She was one of the few ballplayers in our league who hit .300, which is like hitting .400 in the Majors."

 

[Bull Dozier]

Dottie Hinson's Real Life Counterpart Dies

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Written by Deena on May-25-10 4:06pm

Dottie Hinson was a character in the 1992 Geena Davis flick A League of Their Own, and the real life inspiration for the part, a woman named Dorothy Kamenshek, died yesterday at 84, according to MLB.com. She passed away in Palm Desert, Calif. of natural causes.

Dorothy Kamenshek inspired the character Dottie Hinson. (Turner.com)

Kamenshek, who went by the name Dottie or Kammie, was an infielder for the Rockford Peaches from 1943-1951. The star was named one of the top 100 female athletes of the century by Sports Illustrated and was selected to 7 All-Star teams before the end of her career in 1953.

"She was the greatest ballplayer in our league," Pepper Paire Davis, a woman who played with Dorothy in the league, said. "She was one of the few ballplayers in our league who hit .300, which is like hitting .400 in the Majors."

I was just reading on the official league website earlier today that none of the characters were based on real people. The author wrote the story as an ode to his mother an aunt, but there were not a pitcher/catcher combo.A funny note on the site (and I'm paraphrasing) said that if you asked a group of the players today who the Madonna character was modelled after, they would all raise their hands.

 

[jmp]

Of course she dropped it on purpose. She and Jimmy both had a couple thousand on the Belles.

 

[flufhed]

I say no, but when she saw the end result, I think she saw that what happened was the best possible outcome for both of their lives. Her character was too competitive to willingly tank.

This.I have seen that movie many times, and never considered the possibility she dropped it on purpose. Seems the director goes through alot of pains to show Kit earned this one.

 

[flufhed]

Definitely didn't drop it on purpose. Practically nothing leading up to that scene would make any sense at all if she dropped it intentionally.

Changes the whole movie.

 

[flufhed]

It defeats the whole point of the scene if she drops it on purpose. Kit finally wins one. Oh no not really, Dottie just let her win.

This really has me kind of floored.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I still say no way.

 

[Politician Spock]

She quit the team and started driving back home with her husband before the series started because she was letting Kit win.

She came back because what Tom Hanks said to her before she left made her feel guilty for being a quitter.

There's no way she would quit in any point in that game KNOWING that she didn't want to feel like a quiiter AGAIN.

She got beat by her sister. She wouldn't have felt good about it at all if she had quit to let her win. She felt good about it because she didn't quit, and was genuinely happy that her sister earned her moment in the sun.

ETA:

01:34:19 We got to Yellowstone and turned back.

01:34:25 Have trouble with the bears, did you?

01:34:28 I was fine until that scout walked into our barn. I'm no quitter.

 

[zamboni]

I think Kit may have been out anyway. IIRC, Dottie applied the tag, had possession, and then only dropped the ball after falling back and her hand hit the ground - not like the ball was knocked out as soon as the tag was applied.

 

[parasaurolophus]

She caught a ball diving into the dugout, caught Rosie's throw barehanded like it was nothing, and took the freight train impact from a girl twice her sister's size and held onto the ball no problem, and we are supposed to believe that somehow kits determination made her drop the ball?Kit being determined doesn't make her run exponentially faster or increase her mass. Dottie was much bigger and was wearing protective gear. If she can take the force of that other tank full on her sister would have bounced off of her like a pebble.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

I still say no way.

Geena Davis is a big, gangling girl (she's as tall as Hanks). Lori Petty is a teeny-tiny waif.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a46FsHMRPkc