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A runner calling "i got it" to try to trick the other team (1 Viewer)
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Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Apples and oranges. How many player collisions have you seen when someone does the ground ball thing?Yet you see player collisions all the time from people not calling "mine" or "I got it" to alert another player you're coming in and not looking where you're going.
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Darth Cheney
Footballguy
That rook should be paying A-Rod for that type of teaching. I guarantee that that rook won't make that bush league response to a simple pop up for the rest of his career.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
And, on the same show, Joe Torre was quoted as saying he probably shouldn't have done it and he'd understand if Toronto was upset about it.Breed said:
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
I don't know what all the fuss is about stuff like that happens all the time in the game. Just the other day I was watching a Cubs game when the pitcher pulled the hidden ball trick on a runer on first. Then, he intentionally walked the next batter and dared him to run to second; he kept calling him chicken and making the *cluck-cluck* noise and either dropping the ball or throwing it in the air....daring the guy to run. Finally the guy did and the pitcher threw him out.... THEN..he got two strikes on the next batter and threw the final pitch underhand. Talk about bush league.
And here I thought Omar Vizquel, Frank Thomas, Casey Blake, Troy Glaus et al have played baseball before. [thread]
dparker713
Footballguy
Dont see this as a big deal. It seems to me a greater statement on both the Yankee season and ARod's faith in the Yankee bullpen than anything else. Toronto should just plunk him the next time he's up and forget about it. Afterall, its not like it cost them the game.
DoubleG
Footballguy
whoknew
Footballguy
This is a silly argument. OF COURSE its bigger because its ARod -- he has a history of bush league behavior. He's bush league and has shown that repeatedly.
dparker713
Footballguy
Im curious, what's the entire record. I know he's got this popup play and the punching of the glove. What else? Cause it needs to be more than 2 instances for me to give him credit for a history. Hard slides and elbows? Well, those are just as easily labeled old school as bush league, depending on your perception of the player. Just seems like this play is alot closer to the hidden ball trick than anything else. Something you expect when little leaguers play, but something not seen/effective in the majors.
whoknew
Footballguy
There is a HUGE difference between a hard slide and sliding into a base, rolling over and throwing an elbow into the second basemen. The first one is old school. The second is bush. Also -- please reread the post earlier where I described how he yelled at Sean Casey as he was fielding a grounder during last year's ALDS.
dparker713
Footballguy
So, you've got 3 incidents. And while I think that slide was cheap, I've seen worse. And if you think that was bad, you should read some stories about Ty Cobb.Sorry, but for 3 incidents over a lengthy career is hardly that big a deal.
whoknew
Footballguy
That's actually 4. So how many bush league incidents does ARod need before I can call him bush league?
dparker713
Footballguy
Like I said, Ive seen worse slides. Hell, the Rose-Fosse play was completely legal and I'd call that closer to bush league. So you say 4, I say 3, and he's been in the league for 14 years. A couple of thousand games and tens of thousands of plays. Now maybe he was doing this stuff before he got to NY. Maybe not. But either way, I hardly find this play a big deal. Its worth a plunking, and thats about it.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
How so? Fosse was blocking the ####ing plate.
Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
simple gamesmanship; it happens in every sport. if you can get away with it, it's not bush league. A-rod has played baseball for a long time, and obviously knows what he can get away with.
dparker713
Footballguy
It was the All Star game and an exhibition. Yeah, he shouldnt have blocked the plate, doesnt mean Rose had to break his shoulder. I liked Joe Morgan's take on this on Sunday night baseball. He didn't see the difference between this and trash talking of any kind or the hidden ball trick. Its also apparently a new 'unwritten rule' since he stopped playing. I just dont see this as anything that notable.shuke said:
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