Aaron Dobson (1 Viewer)

[munygon2]

Would you guys prefer Amendola or Dobson Rest of Season?

Good question. I have Amendola and Dobson is on the WW. Hard to say because they will both get their chances, predicting TDs is difficult though.

 

[10tihwj]

The big deal isn't that he blew by an old Ike Taylor. The bigger deal is that Clark is a veteran safety and Dobson broke full stride to A) put his hand up to signal for the ball, B) slowed to look back for the ball, C) slowed to catch the ball and D) immediately separated again from a guy who thought he had an angle on him. Bad play by Clark in underestimating Dobson's top end speed but here is a WR who can blow the roof off a defense on the outside but has the physical tools of a bigger receiver.

If he starts to get it and really learns to play the position...

As far as going forward, when that offense is going well, there is plenty of targets for all three roles (slot WR, TE and outside WR). Brady had been averaging over 300 yards and 3 TDs per game in past few seasons he was healthy. He's been at 228 ypg and barely 1 TD. It's not that anyone has to take a hit; the offense was terrible. If Amendola loses stats, it will be to Edelman playing his position when he gets hurt. Thompkins is the only real big loser.

IMO, Amendola/Edelman (depending on health) should be startable in PPR, Gronk will always be startable and Dobson is no worse than a WR2 going forward. Dobson is 40th in targets already and should climb into the low 20s by the end of the year.

 

[Shutout]

I said before the draft, before we knew where any of these guys would go, that ina couple of years, Dobson would be the steal of the WR draft. I have read a lot of the same information regarding Dobson where people just pick, pick, pick at him but I truly wonder how many people actually watch enough Marshall football to understand this player. I think people are going to look back on this one and say "Geez..shoulda known.. Why did I take [player X] over Dobson? Having Tom Brady, alone should have been enough to make me go with Dobson.

Re: the post above by Bloom...I actually want to see if the Pats will use Harrison in Hernandez's role. I think that is their solution to that problem. He could play that position as close to what Aaron did as anyone they currently have.

Maybe Brady will come around and save some fantasy seasons. Dobson is coming around as hoped and Gronk and Amendola make that transition easier for him. Confidence breeds success in the NFL and Dobson and Brady both have it right now.

 

[Hank Mardukas]

Is Dobson worth burning a #1 WW priority? I'm in 1st place but am always looking to secure some insurance.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Feel like an ### adding mike brown after the Blackmon news when I was thinking about Dobson the whole week.

 

[Cheesedawg]

I'm trying to understand why Dobson is flying under the radar so much in rookie drafts. He is being drafted in the mid-2nd round in most drafts. He is also ranked #38 on Bloom's Post Draft 100. A few items to look at...

• Great Size - 6'3, 210 pounds
• Consistently ran the 40 yard dash in the low 4.4 range.
  
• 6th WR drafted (3rd in the 2nd Round)
  
• He did not drop a single catch-able pass in the 2012 NCAA Football Season (Best in the nation)
  
• Has a basketball background (received scholarships to play at Hofstra, Northeastern, others)
  
• The situation for him in NE is at worst above-average, with a great QB and not a lot of talent ahead of him (Lloyd and Welker out of picture)
  

I look for him to produce immediately and make the biggest jump of any rookie WR from from a value stand point in start-up dynasty ADP from year one to year two. Bloom says he is worth a late 3rd. I think he will end up being worth a 1st.

Oh and don't forget this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCdFFFAxLz0

I had never seen that catch before. I have never seen a better catch by a football player than that. And I already loved Dobson, which is why I'm checking this thread. Great post to start this thread.

 

[benjaminbarker]

he has played almost every snap offensively for a few weeks now

kenbrell thompkins is totally off the radar

he is still struggling often out there and it's not all peaches and cream but he does seem to be more and more establishing his place in the offense

 

[Cheesedawg]

Dobson played 16 more snaps than any offensive player who wasn't an OL or the QB. Belichick doesn't communicate his strategy to the media or fans, but his actions on Sunday are strictly about what he thinks he needs to do to win. His actions speak loudly that Dobson is now a key, integral focal point of his offense. Combining that with the fact that Dobson had more targets than anyone except Gronk (who had one more) and it is hard not to see the upside here from a fantasy perspective.

 

[Braktastic]

For better or worse, I dropped Aaron Dobson last night and picked up Rueben Randle. The reason being, I own Shane Vereen, and with him back there are too many mouths to feed.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

He did get the throw in the end zone last night.

 

[Cheesedawg]

Dobson disappeared with about 20 secs left in the 1st half and played only two more snaps the rest of the game. He wasn't targeted a single time. He blocked fine and was open on routes but it wasn't until Thompkins entered the game that Brady started targeting that position, throwing to Thompkins 9 times in the second half.

I didn't see Dobson limping at all nor did he have any obvious bandages or wrappings. Any idea what happened to him?

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Aaron Dobson played on just two snaps after halftime Sunday's overtime win over the Broncos.
Dobson played on 35 snaps in the first half. So he was either benched or he sustained an injury as he gave way to Kenbrell Thompkins. Because this is the Patriots, we won't have an answer until Wednesday's injury report comes out. Regardless, the X receiver spot in New England's offense is growing more unpredictable by the week and it's the fifth option in the passing game anyway. Rob Gronkowski, Shane Vereen, Danny Amendola and Julian Edelman are all better bets for targets at this point.

Related: Kenbrell Thompkins

Source: ESPN Boston

 

[Cheesedawg]

Rotoworld:

Aaron Dobson played on just two snaps after halftime Sunday's overtime win over the Broncos.
Dobson played on 35 snaps in the first half. So he was either benched or he sustained an injury as he gave way to Kenbrell Thompkins. Because this is the Patriots, we won't have an answer until Wednesday's injury report comes out. Regardless, the X receiver spot in New England's offense is growing more unpredictable by the week and it's the fifth option in the passing game anyway. Rob Gronkowski, Shane Vereen, Danny Amendola and Julian Edelman are all better bets for targets at this point.

Related: Kenbrell Thompkins

Source: ESPN Boston

In other words, he doesn't know either.

Jeff Howe (Boston Herald Pats' beat reporter) tweeted this in response to a question about Dobson's disappearance this AM: Jeff Howe ‏@jeffphowe 21m

@machacapopa Thompkins played better. They rode him.

Hard to say if that is speculation on his part or not. Dobson didn't get thrown to a single time and, from what we can see on TV, blocked well and was open on occasion on routes. Maybe he was running the wrong routes or something.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Well it was an obvious change in strategy, but maybe Dobson did some things they just did not like in the first half, and then maybe they thought that KT matched up better with the defense, they came right out firing at him and he did a great job by the look of it. As others have pointed out this is always possible with BBB, it could be Amendola, it could be Dobson, who knows.

This was a very unusual game as well.

 

[Cheesedawg]

Well it was an obvious change in strategy, but maybe Dobson did some things they just did not like in the first half, and then maybe they thought that KT matched up better with the defense, they came right out firing at him and he did a great job by the look of it. As others have pointed out this is always possible with BBB, it could be Amendola, it could be Dobson, who knows.

This was a very unusual game as well.

The change from Dobson to Thompkins occurred right before Rodgers-Cromartie went down for Denver. In the second half Brady went after the rookie DB who replaced Rodgers-Cromartie, who happened to be covering Thompkins. Hard to say what would have happened target-wise if Rodgers-Cromartie was still playing. The obvious change in strategy may have been directly related to that injury.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Aaron Dobson (undisclosed) is not practicing Wednesday.

Now we know why Dobson played just two snaps after halftime in last week's overtime win against the Broncos. He wasn't benched in favor of Kenbrell Thompkins -- he was injured. Regardless, the X receiver spot in New England is quickly becoming a headache best left alone for fantasy purposes. OC Josh McDaniels even hinted at a "hot hand" situation between Dobson and Thompkins. Tom Brady has more faith in Rob Gronkowski, Shane Vereen, Julian Edelman and Danny Amendola anyway.

Related: Kenbrell Thompkins

Source: Jeff Howe on Twitter

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Aaron Dobson (foot) remained sidelined at Patriots practice Friday.

He's not going to play this week after not getting in any practice reps. Dobson hurt his foot in the second half of last Sunday night's win over the Broncos. Kenbrell Thompkins will see the majority of the reps at X receiver in Dobson's absence, but he won't be anything more than a risky WR4/5 play.


Source: Field Yates on Twitter

 

[Rushmore]

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Aaron Dobson (foot) remained sidelined at Friday's practice.

Dobson hasn't practiced since injuring his foot in the Week 12 overtime win over the Broncos. He has no timetable for return and won't play this week against the Browns. Kenbrell Thompkins should handle X receiver duties as long as he can get over a hip injury of his own. Consider Dobson week-to-week.


Source: Jeff Howe on Twitter

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Aaron Dobson (foot) is still not practicing.

The Patriots haven't revealed the specifics of Dobson's injury, but he hasn't practiced since going down in Week 12. It would be a major surprise if he was able to play against the Dolphins Sunday. That leaves either Kenbrell Thompkins (questionable, hip) or Josh Boyce to man the "X" spot.

Related: Josh Boyce, Kenbrell Thompkins

Source: Mike Reiss on Twitter

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Aaron Dobson (foot) returned to practice Friday.

It's Dobson's first action on the field since he hurt his foot in the second half of the Patriots' Week 12 comeback win against the Broncos. Dobson likely won't play this week, but his return to practice today gives him a good shot to suit up for Week 16. Josh Boyce filled in at X receiver last week with both Dobson and Kenbrell Thompkins (hip) on the shelf. Dobson's exact injury was never revealed, but he was likely dealing with a significant sprain.


Source: Field Yates on Twitter

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Aaron Dobson (foot) expects to return for Sunday's game against the Ravens.

"I think so," Dobson said when asked if he was playing. "I am just going through the week, trying to progress, and will see how it feels." It's a rare bit of pseudo-injury honestly from a Patriot. Dobson's return would give the Pats a badly-needed outside threat, but also cloud Danny Amendola's high-end WR3 status. Dobson's status will be updated later Thursday when the Patriots release their injury report. He was limited on Wednesday.


Source: Mike Reiss on Twitter

 

[PatsWillWin]

This would be significant. He's not Calvin Johnson or anything, but he instantly boosts Brady's RZ options.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

ESPN Boston calls Aaron Dobson's development a "critical part of the Patriots' passing game going forward."

Dobson finished his rookie year with a 37/519/4 line, but we suspect he would have had a far greater impact if not for two foot injuries. At 6'3/200, he flashed unique catch-point skills and playmaking ability as he gradually passed Kenbrell Thompkins on the depth chart. Dobson, just 22 years old, remains a must-hold in Dynasty formats. The Patriots are going to do everything they can to mold his talent into that of an every-down difference maker.


Source: ESPN Boston

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

The stress fracture in Aaron Dobson's left foot has still not healed.
So far, Dobson has just been prescribed with rest ever since the Patriots season ended back on Jan. 19. But if he doesn't show good progress in the next 10-14 days, a "procedure" is a possibility. He's now in doubt for OTAs, a concern for a second-year player that struggled to get on the same page with Tom Brady for much of last season. The Patriots desperately need the 6'3/200 Dobson to step up as a reliable weapon on the outside for Tom Brady. He has plenty of playmaking ability and will be a major 2014 breakout candidate if he can get his foot right.

Source: Boston Herald

 

[Bri]

Rotoworld:

The stress fracture in Aaron Dobson's left foot has still not healed.
So far, Dobson has just been prescribed with rest ever since the Patriots season ended back on Jan. 19. But if he doesn't show good progress in the next 10-14 days, a "procedure" is a possibility. He's now in doubt for OTAs, a concern for a second-year player that struggled to get on the same page with Tom Brady for much of last season. The Patriots desperately need the 6'3/200 Dobson to step up as a reliable weapon on the outside for Tom Brady. He has plenty of playmaking ability and will be a major 2014 breakout candidate if he can get his foot right.

Source: Boston Herald

It's hard to get pro athletes to rest. I'm curious if that's the prob. Stress fractures can be "no big deal" or made worse.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Aaron Dobson underwent surgery on Monday, March 10 to repair the stress fracture in his left foot.
Per beat writer Jeff Howe, Dobson's recovery timetable has been set at "2-3 months." Dobson battled the injury on and off throughout his rookie year, and it affected both his playing time and on-field effectiveness. Dobson is a 6-foot-3, 210-pound receiver with sub-4.4 speed. He has breakout potential in 2014.

Source: Jeff Howe on Twitter

 

[JayJay328]

Is it the injury keeping his price down? ADP around 100 overall in start ups seems like a steal when you consider other 2nd year WRs like Patterson and Allen(I get this guy) going around 16/17th. Hopkins around 35/36th. Heck even J.Hunter is going 20-25 picks earlier around the 75th overall mark.

 

[Terpman22]

Is it the injury keeping his price down? ADP around 100 overall in start ups seems like a steal when you consider other 2nd year WRs like Patterson and Allen(I get this guy) going around 16/17th. Hopkins around 35/36th. Heck even J.Hunter is going 20-25 picks earlier around the 75th overall mark.

I love his low value. He was on/off injured a lot last year and don't think he ever put on full display of what he can do. Buy him while you can.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Aaron Dobson - WR - Patriots
Former NFL Personnel man Gil Brandt says Aaron Dobson has "some special stuff about him."
Brandt notes that Dobson "has the quickness to beat press coverage and an ability to make some spectacular catches, despite having relatively small hands." We started to see some of that shine through in the middle of last season as he averaged 4.5 catches for 71.7 yards with three touchdowns between Weeks 6 and 9. Then a stress fracture in Dobson's left foot crippled him and led to March surgery. If healthy, he'll be a breakout candidate as a projected starter at the "X" spot.

Source: NFL.com

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

ESPN Boston's Mike Reiss says this is Aaron Dobson's "year to emerge."

We agree. The Patriots forced 151 targets to Julian Edelman last year out of desperation -- it's not something they want to make a habit of. Dobson is ticketed for an every-down role at the "X" spot, and at 6-foot-3 with sticky hands and 4.4 wheels he has the skill set to make a big impact as an NFL sophomore. The Patriots need him to be that outside threat.

Source: ESPN Boston

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Why is there so much Dobson pimping going on here?

 

[MAC_32]

Why is there so much Dobson pimping going on here?

physical traits of a starting fantasy wr, pass happy offense, great qb, no one else that jumps off the page.I'm not a believer, but I get the excitement. The inconsistencies have me looking elsewhere.

 

[identikit]

Why is there so much Dobson pimping going on here?

They want to believe.

 

[maf005]

Why is there so much Dobson pimping going on here?

Seemingly ripe situation to produce big #s (Brady #1 wrs not named moss are underwhelming...shhhh), 2nd round talent, good measurable, 2nd year WR

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Aaron Dobson - WR - Patriots

Aaron Dobson (foot surgery) is considered "doubtful" to participate in the Patriots' June minicamp.

Dobson is over three months removed from March foot surgery. He's said to be "doing better," but his recovery has progressed slowly after originally receiving a 2-3 month timetable. Dobson finished his up-and-down rookie year with 37 catches for 519 yards and four touchdowns. He's an intriguing sophomore-leap candidate, but the recurring foot injury presents a significant obstacle.

Source: Mass Live

Jun 16 - 1:24 PM

 

[cstu]

Why is there so much Dobson pimping going on here?

Seemingly ripe situation to produce big #s (Brady #1 wrs not named moss are underwhelming...shhhh), 2nd round talent, good measurable, 2nd year WR

Also, 9 drops on 71 targets.

That's a rate as bad as DHB.

 

[massraider]

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2014/06/15/sunday-nfl-notes-will-2014-be-leap-year-for-lb-jamie-collins/

b. Aaron Dobson — The receiver out of Marshall had issues over the course of the 2013 season, and he’d probably like to take a mulligan on the way his year ended — after the Monday night loss to the Panthers in Carolina, he had just two catches the rest of the season. But he had one of the best seasons of any rookie receiver while working with quarterback Tom Brady (his 37 catches, 519 yards and four touchdowns were certainly comparable with Deion Branch‘s 43-489-2 line as a rookie back in 2002), and he will start the year as New England’s primary deep passing threat.

c. Josh Boyce — Because of an injury-shortened season — as well as some self-admitted struggles with the playbook — we’re not quite sure what Boyce is at this stage. (What we do know is that he provides awesome GIFs, like this one after he shook Cleveland’s Buster Skrine.) Regardless, with the LeGarette Blount Kick Return Experiment now done in New England, Boyce should get a chance to work as a return man.

d. Kenbrell Thompkins — We are already on record as saying there’s a chance Thompkins is the odd-man odd when it comes to the wide receiver spot, and so it was no surprise to see the Patriots give Thompkins a shot at special teams as a possible kick returner at a recent OTA session. Like Dobson, he dropped off the radar screen late in the year, and it would appear he still needs a strong spring and summer to secure a roster spot this season.

I have to assume that for all the games two or more of Edelman, Gronk, and Amendola are healthy, Dobson will not be a confident start.

 

[jurb26]

Why is there so much Dobson pimping going on here?

Seemingly ripe situation to produce big #s (Brady #1 wrs not named moss are underwhelming...shhhh), 2nd round talent, good measurable, 2nd year WR

Also, 9 drops on 71 targets.

That's a rate as bad as DHB.

Worse. Though it's not as bad as T. Austin. It's also not as bad as another NE WR, Thompkins.

 

[cstu]

Why is there so much Dobson pimping going on here?

Seemingly ripe situation to produce big #s (Brady #1 wrs not named moss are underwhelming...shhhh), 2nd round talent, good measurable, 2nd year WR

Also, 9 drops on 71 targets.

That's a rate as bad as DHB.

Worse. Though it's not as bad as T. Austin. It's also not as bad as another NE WR, Thompkins.

Austin actually 'only' dropped 5 of 65 targets and all were in the first 5 games of the season. The rest of the season he caught 17 of 28 targets (61%) and had no drops.

As far as Dobson vs. Thompkins:

Dobson - 37 catches on 71 targets (52.1%) with 14.0 YPR, 9 drops, 2 penalties, 1 fumble. 3 missed tackles

Thompkins - 32 catches on 69 targets (46.4%) with 14.6 YPR, 4 drops, 0 penalties, 0 fumbles. 6 missed tackles

 

[Terpman22]

Those missed tackles are really hindering his progression, so I'm staying away.

 

[saintfool]

the less time he gets with Brady, the shakier his status is with production.

 

[jurb26]

Why is there so much Dobson pimping going on here?

Seemingly ripe situation to produce big #s (Brady #1 wrs not named moss are underwhelming...shhhh), 2nd round talent, good measurable, 2nd year WR

Also, 9 drops on 71 targets.

That's a rate as bad as DHB.

Worse. Though it's not as bad as T. Austin. It's also not as bad as another NE WR, Thompkins.

Austin actually 'only' dropped 5 of 65 targets and all were in the first 5 games of the season. The rest of the season he caught 17 of 28 targets (61%) and had no drops.

As far as Dobson vs. Thompkins:

Dobson - 37 catches on 71 targets (52.1%) with 14.0 YPR, 9 drops, 2 penalties, 1 fumble. 3 missed tackles

Thompkins - 32 catches on 69 targets (46.4%) with 14.6 YPR, 4 drops, 0 penalties, 0 fumbles. 6 missed tackles

Austin dropped 7 of 69 targets for a 10.1% drop rate. I don't know, nor care, the break down by game. As far as I'm concerned anything over a 6% is bad for a WR. Dobson had a rate of 9.7% and Thompkins 10%. NE WR killed Brady last year.

Link here.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Why is there so much Dobson pimping going on here?

Seemingly ripe situation to produce big #s (Brady #1 wrs not named moss are underwhelming...shhhh), 2nd round talent, good measurable, 2nd year WR

Also, 9 drops on 71 targets.

That's a rate as bad as DHB.

Worse. Though it's not as bad as T. Austin. It's also not as bad as another NE WR, Thompkins.

Austin actually 'only' dropped 5 of 65 targets and all were in the first 5 games of the season. The rest of the season he caught 17 of 28 targets (61%) and had no drops.

As far as Dobson vs. Thompkins:

Dobson - 37 catches on 71 targets (52.1%) with 14.0 YPR, 9 drops, 2 penalties, 1 fumble. 3 missed tackles

Thompkins - 32 catches on 69 targets (46.4%) with 14.6 YPR, 4 drops, 0 penalties, 0 fumbles. 6 missed tackles

Austin dropped 7 of 69 targets for a 10.1% drop rate. I don't know, nor care, the break down by game. As far as I'm concerned anything over a 6% is bad for a WR. Dobson had a rate of 9.7% and Thompkins 10%. NE WR killed Brady last year.

Link here.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/

Hmm. Maybe Boyce gets a shot with a healthy preseason...

 

[PatsWillWin]

Ridiculously useless, early, stupid reports out of the 8 minutes of OTA's that the media gets to see is that Boyce has been impressive.

 

[ebsteelers]

whats he worth in dynasty? 3rd rounder ?

 

[MattFancy]

whats he worth in dynasty? 3rd rounder ?

I offered the Dobson owner a 2nd and was turned down

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

whats he worth in dynasty? 3rd rounder ?

I offered the Dobson owner a 2nd and was turned down

Same for me. Owner told me he thinks "he's going to be a good one."

 

[MattFancy]

whats he worth in dynasty? 3rd rounder ?

I offered the Dobson owner a 2nd and was turned down

Same for me. Owner told me he thinks "he's going to be a good one."

I do too, but I think a 2nd is plenty for him. Still a bunch of questions about him. He's playing in a pretty crowded WR corps and coming off foot surgery. I don't think I'd give up too much for him.

 

[nastynate]

FtbGuys ADP has him currently going in the middle of the 11th (12 team). I'd definitely consider him there, but expect his stock to rise as the season nears.

This is a guy that could follow a common path, with people thinking he breaks out a year earlier than he does. Seeing the WRs around him (Greg Jennings, Steve Smith), I think I'll stay away this year and reevaluate going into 2015.