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Aaron Hernandez Found Dead - Suicide Suspected (1 Viewer)

hey rock why do you think people are trying to make this story go away i just have not felt that way but then again i do not live on the east coast take that to the bank brohan 

 
Read the first part of the Boston Globe story... was really good.  Unfortunately, I won't be able to read the second half since I'm out of freebies.  :(

 
SWC said:
hey rock why do you think people are trying to make this story go away i just have not felt that way but then again i do not live on the east coast take that to the bank brohan 
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No sweat. I don't think people are trying to make the story go away. Like Jayrod said, it was a response to people on the board I respect, bromigo. 

I think it's a tough story that isn't fun and deserves to be taken with all the seriousness I hope the Globe gives it. That's my hope for this hopelessness.  

 
got it well i do not think the story should go away get as much sunshine on it and everything about it as possible in my opinion take that to the bank brochachos 

 
Henry Ford said:
His brother's memoir comes out this month.  I'm a little interested.
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DJ, or D.J., if that's who it is, was a local high school all-star and also main person in my area. Also a Boys' Club guy and high school coach, IIRC. So I am interested, too. Both grew up less than twenty minutes away from me in Bloomfield, CT, though Aaron wound up in Bristol, CT, somehow. That's more like thirty-forty minutes away.  

 
rockaction said:
DJ, or D.J., if that's who it is, was a local high school all-star and also main person in my area. Also a Boys' Club guy and high school coach, IIRC. So I am interested, too. Both grew up less than twenty minutes away from me in Bloomfield, CT, though Aaron wound up in Bristol, CT, somehow. That's more like thirty-forty minutes away.  
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Jonathan is what he calls himself now.  I think that's DJ (Dennis Jonathan).

 
Henry Ford said:
Jonathan is what he calls himself now.  I think that's DJ (Dennis Jonathan).
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Okay. I'm unaware. D.J. was a local star, too, and he was affected by all of this. That's just why I chimed in. This whole thing is ugly, and sad on so many levels. It doesn't deserve O.J. treatment, but maybe a better understanding will come from it, both societally, and sporting-wise.  

 
rockaction said:
I can't speak to the individual decisions of what people did, but I know it's a story. That was my original debate with the bump. It's a story, and a sad one. I don't see how people want to sweep it under the rug or are "tired" of hearing about it. It's a legitimate story from all sides and I'm glad the Globe is running it. I'm a Jets fan, but that makes it no different. I don't hate the Patriots about this  -- so much so that I hope Josh Gordon excels under the Patriot Way, as everybody in the Shark Pool knows. But I also know the NFL has a lot to answer for both in terms of its arbitrary conduct policy and its culture. That Gordon is tested weekly for alcohol and weed, yet this guy existed and was never under protocol is disgusting. 

This is a bigger story about a bigger culture for a bigger day.  I'm not equipped, I think, to have it, though I'll try.  
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After watching the most recent report on CTE on Real Sports, I wonder if all of this is the result of the concussions Hernadez had.  I seriously doubt he was in his right mind for the last few years of his life.  I'd be more interested in the NFL answering for that stuff.  They spent a lot of time and money denying that CTE even existed.

 
Mrs. Rannous said:
After watching the most recent report on CTE on Real Sports, I wonder if all of this is the result of the concussions Hernadez had.  I seriously doubt he was in his right mind for the last few years of his life.  I'd be more interested in the NFL answering for that stuff.  They spent a lot of time and money denying that CTE even existed.
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Very fair, but this sounds like behavior that started in high school, which is before CTE should have set in. It sounds like a really difficult thing to separate this behavior from CTE. The links between behavior like this and CTE are so nascent.  

 
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This quote was pretty alarming...

In a diagnosis that linked one of football's most notorious figures with the sport's most significant health risk, doctors found Hernandez had Stage 3 CTE, which researchers had never seen in a brain younger than 46 years old.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/aaron-hernandez-suffered-from-most-severe-cte-ever-found-in-a-person-his-age/2017/11/09/fa7cd204-c57b-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.eacb50ff32f8

 
Mrs. Rannous said:
After watching the most recent report on CTE on Real Sports, I wonder if all of this is the result of the concussions Hernadez had.  I seriously doubt he was in his right mind for the last few years of his life.  I'd be more interested in the NFL answering for that stuff.  They spent a lot of time and money denying that CTE even existed.
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I don't think he was in the right mind his entire life.  Didn't it come out he was an abused child? That started it it and then he was with a horrible crowd that became a way of life before football.   

 
This is just a tragic story. Dr. Detroit is right in this case. I don't like it. Nobody does. It could very well have been CTE, as Max Power and Mrs. Rannous have addressed. I really don't know, and nobody does. It's just...awful.  

 
Total speculation ony part but being abused, developing bad interpersonal habits of his bad crowd ans cte may have been a perfect storm for him.

What's more interesting to me and maybe it deserves a separate thread is how does a coach and team recognize an antisocial person such as Hernandez yet still opt for empowering him as they did? The NEP aren't guilty of anything, but their approach to Hernandez (and other antisocial players) is gross. They aren’t the only ones to be sure. So why do we as a society allow this?

 
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Dedfin said:
Total speculation ony part but being abused, developing bad interpersonal habits of his bad crowd ans cte may have been a perfect storm for him.

What's more interesting to me and maybe it deserves a separate thread is how does a coach and team recognize an antisocial person such as Hernandez yet still opt for empowering him as they did? The NEP aren't guilty of anything, but their approach to Hernandez (and other antisocial players) is gross. They aren’t the only ones to be sure. So why do we as a society allow this?
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I'm not entirely sure that's true.  There's level of negligence and indifference that really bothers me.  If they knew he was drunk and driving, I figure they'd be liable.  I'm not sure this is all that different.

 
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