Adam Schefter Proposed Trades (1 Viewer)

[jeter23]

The boys were talking on Mike & Mike just now about some trade ideas that Adam Schefter had. These were not necessarily rumors or reports, but just his own opinion for deals that might make sense for both teams.

1. Colts trade Wayne to Bills for 4th rounder

2. Colts trade Mathis to Jets for 4th rounder

3. Broncos trade Orton to Dolphins for 5th rounder

4. Broncos trade DJ WIlliams/Dawkins to Eagles for 3rd rounder

 

[Balco]

I think the colts should do everything they can to shed aging payroll. That team needs a thorough gutting. Also helps them in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.

 

[pantherclub]

The boys were talking on Mike & Mike just now about some trade ideas that Adam Schefter had. These were not necessarily rumors or reports, but just his own opinion for deals that might make sense for both teams.



1. Colts trade Wayne to Bills for 4th rounder

2. Colts trade Mathis to Jets for 4th rounder

3. Broncos trade Orton to Dolphins for 5th rounder

4. Broncos trade DJ WIlliams/Dawkins to Eagles for 3rd rounder

Colts would be going all in for Luck with a pair of Aces.

 

[womb]

If Colts are playing the suck for Luck game, why would they trade their veterans away?

Makes no sense to me if Manning were to come back next year, and if Manning were not to come back next year.

 

[CentralPA]

The boys were talking on Mike & Mike just now about some trade ideas that Adam Schefter had. These were not necessarily rumors or reports, but just his own opinion for deals that might make sense for both teams.

1. Colts trade Wayne to Bills for 4th rounder

2. Colts trade Mathis to Jets for 4th rounder

3. Broncos trade Orton to Dolphins for 5th rounder

4. Broncos trade DJ WIlliams/Dawkins to Eagles for 3rd rounder

From a PR stand point Eagles fans would love this and it might actually help the defense as well. They've missed Brian Dawkins ever since he left.

 

[Crusaderfan]

The boys were talking on Mike & Mike just now about some trade ideas that Adam Schefter had. These were not necessarily rumors or reports, but just his own opinion for deals that might make sense for both teams.

1. Colts trade Wayne to Bills for 4th rounder

2. Colts trade Mathis to Jets for 4th rounder

3. Broncos trade Orton to Dolphins for 5th rounder

4. Broncos trade DJ WIlliams/Dawkins to Eagles for 3rd rounder

This would definitely provide something the Eagles defense could use - leadership, toughness and character. None of that is currently there at the moment.But the chances of this front office giving up any draft choices is remote. They are more proud of how many draft picks they have on draft day than they are with what they are actually able to accomplish with them.

 

[SwampDawg]

The boys were talking on Mike & Mike just now about some trade ideas that Adam Schefter had. These were not necessarily rumors or reports, but just his own opinion for deals that might make sense for both teams.

1. Colts trade Wayne to Bills for 4th rounder

2. Colts trade Mathis to Jets for 4th rounder

3. Broncos trade Orton to Dolphins for 5th rounder

4. Broncos trade DJ WIlliams/Dawkins to Eagles for 3rd rounder

Why would the Dolphins spend anything at this point to get a guy that just might help them win a game or two they wouldn't have and miss out on the chance to draft Luck ? If they were 2-2 with Henne down sure maybe but at this point they are one of the leaders in the Luck sweepstakes. Some writer on Yahoo actually suggested the Dolphins should be sellers and trying to move Bush, Dansby and Taylor (I don't see Taylor wanting to move again unless it was to take a title run).

 

[JuSt CuZ]

He also mentioned that the Eagles should trade Asante Samuel to the Lions for a 2nd.

Makes so much sense that it won't happen.

 

[cheese]

I am always amazed at how much people value draft picks, but I refuse to believe Wayne couldn't net better than a 4th.

 

[Shutout]

Its a total knee jerk and wrong reaction for the Colts to blow things up. Mathis is a key part of the defense and Wayne is still Wayne; he just is suffering now from what Steve Smith has been for the past 3 years and, much like Smith is showing now, Wayne will be fine once he has a legit QB again.

It would be a huge mistake for the Colts to end up in a scenario where Manning returns but now the speed defense is missing one of its most valuable parts or the offense is missing THE guy that makes so much of it click when Manning is operating it.

Big over reaction. If they end up with Luck, then they have a lot of long term financial and personnel issues to deal with. But let's not put the cart before the horse. They could easily end up with Manning back and NOT have Luck and then they are right back where they have been; a good team with a puncher's chance to win it, as always, that is getting older. They will move on from Manning and Wayne and Freeney, etc someday (all teams do), but as a guy that saw the Bulls broken up, I just don't support the idea of getting away from HOF players early and trying to be cute because it can be a LONG time before it all gels again.

 

[rizzler]

I am always amazed at how much people value draft picks, but I refuse to believe Wayne couldn't net better than a 4th.

at that age? a 4th is plenty IMO.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I wouldn't be totally suprised to see someone try and pry stewart away from the panthers. I imagine the cap hit would be too great to trade DW as he just inked a big long term deal.

 

[Lash]

isn't Mathis fairly young for a DE?

 

[Tackling Dummies]

isn't Mathis fairly young for a DE?

Assuming that the Colts will be in some sort of rebuild, this makes perfect sense. He's 30, so the (next) team will be holding on for a gradual skill set reduction instead of a cliff.

 

[AmosMoses]

Schefter is a dancing monkey that gets phone calls from NFL insiders. That doesn't mean he knows more about what a good trade would be.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

isn't Mathis fairly young for a DE?

Good pass rushing DE can bring a first round pick.

 

[FUBAR]

The boys were talking on Mike & Mike just now about some trade ideas that Adam Schefter had. These were not necessarily rumors or reports, but just his own opinion for deals that might make sense for both teams.

1. Colts trade Wayne to Bills for 4th rounder

2. Colts trade Mathis to Jets for 4th rounder

3. Broncos trade Orton to Dolphins for 5th rounder

4. Broncos trade DJ WIlliams/Dawkins to Eagles for 3rd rounder

There are many team that could use Dawkins. I wonder if the Lions would be interested.

Ravens? Pair him with Reed for a year.

Chicago?

Houston?

As a dream, if Wayne only costs a 4th, the Lions should jump all over it. Take some of the coverage from Calvin and keep Stafford upright - Detroit could set records.

 

[mad sweeney]

He's also suggested a 2nd and 4th from the Seahawks to Cincy for Palmer.

 

[nickdiesel]

He's also suggested a 2nd and 4th from the Seahawks to Cincy for Palmer.

Brown is not going to trade Palmer, even though it makes sense on so many levels. He has his big boy pants on and is going to show players who is boss to the detriment of team and the fans.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

He's also suggested a 2nd and 4th from the Seahawks to Cincy for Palmer.

Brown is not going to trade Palmer, even though it makes sense on so many levels. He has his big boy pants on and is going to show players who is boss to the detriment of team and the fans.

I guess he figures that if he trades Palmer he would be opening a gate that other players would likely plow through, both now and in the future. I don't blame him, because everyone knows Cincy is a terrible place to play, so why make it easier to escape hell?

 

[Time Kibitzer]

I am always amazed at how much people value draft picks, but I refuse to believe Wayne couldn't net better than a 4th.

at that age? a 4th is plenty IMO.

Wayne is an excellent WR right now and should be for another couple years at least. Your average 4th rounder will play special teams for a few years than be out of the league. Any team who's in need of a WR would be silly not to trade a 4th rounder for Wayne imo.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I am always amazed at how much people value draft picks, but I refuse to believe Wayne couldn't net better than a 4th.

at that age? a 4th is plenty IMO.

Wayne is an excellent WR right now and should be for another couple years at least. Your average 4th rounder will play special teams for a few years than be out of the league. Any team who's in need of a WR would be silly not to trade a 4th rounder for Wayne imo.

You are undervaluing 4th rounders in the NFL. I agree with you if you were talking about 5th - 7th rounders.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

He's also suggested a 2nd and 4th from the Seahawks to Cincy for Palmer.

Brown is not going to trade Palmer, even though it makes sense on so many levels. He has his big boy pants on and is going to show players who is boss to the detriment of team and the fans.

I guess he figures that if he trades Palmer he would be opening a gate that other players would likely plow through, both now and in the future. I don't blame him, because everyone knows Cincy is a terrible place to play, so why make it easier to escape hell?

How many other players on that team have enough money banked to be taken seriously if they threaten retirement?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

He's also suggested a 2nd and 4th from the Seahawks to Cincy for Palmer.

Brown is not going to trade Palmer, even though it makes sense on so many levels. He has his big boy pants on and is going to show players who is boss to the detriment of team and the fans.

I guess he figures that if he trades Palmer he would be opening a gate that other players would likely plow through, both now and in the future. I don't blame him, because everyone knows Cincy is a terrible place to play, so why make it easier to escape hell?

How many other players on that team have enough money banked to be taken seriously if they threaten retirement?

I was referring to any attempt at forcing a trade, not just retirement threats. A few of which might include locker room disruption, saying really bad things to the media, holdouts, etc. etc.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

I am always amazed at how much people value draft picks, but I refuse to believe Wayne couldn't net better than a 4th.

at that age? a 4th is plenty IMO.

Wayne is an excellent WR right now and should be for another couple years at least. Your average 4th rounder will play special teams for a few years than be out of the league. Any team who's in need of a WR would be silly not to trade a 4th rounder for Wayne imo.

You are undervaluing 4th rounders in the NFL. I agree with you if you were talking about 5th - 7th rounders.

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[griff321]

I am always amazed at how much people value draft picks, but I refuse to believe Wayne couldn't net better than a 4th.

at that age? a 4th is plenty IMO.

Wayne is an excellent WR right now and should be for another couple years at least. Your average 4th rounder will play special teams for a few years than be out of the league. Any team who's in need of a WR would be silly not to trade a 4th rounder for Wayne imo.

You are undervaluing 4th rounders in the NFL. I agree with you if you were talking about 5th - 7th rounders.

Randy Moss was worth a third last year. Wayne is worth at least that.

 

[Max Power]

I am always amazed at how much people value draft picks, but I refuse to believe Wayne couldn't net better than a 4th.

at that age? a 4th is plenty IMO.

Wayne is an excellent WR right now and should be for another couple years at least. Your average 4th rounder will play special teams for a few years than be out of the league. Any team who's in need of a WR would be silly not to trade a 4th rounder for Wayne imo.

You are undervaluing 4th rounders in the NFL. I agree with you if you were talking about 5th - 7th rounders.

No he is right. Your AVERAGE 4th round pick will be out of league in a few years or hang around a while longer with minimal impact.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

I am always amazed at how much people value draft picks, but I refuse to believe Wayne couldn't net better than a 4th.

at that age? a 4th is plenty IMO.

Wayne is an excellent WR right now and should be for another couple years at least. Your average 4th rounder will play special teams for a few years than be out of the league. Any team who's in need of a WR would be silly not to trade a 4th rounder for Wayne imo.

So, you're willing to give up a 3rd and also extend a 30-something-soon-to-be-a-possession-WR?

 

[LittlePhatty]

Randy Moss was worth a third last year.

That's what the Vikings paid. Doesn't mean he was worth that. Then they cut him.

 

[loose circuits]

I am always amazed at how much people value draft picks, but I refuse to believe Wayne couldn't net better than a 4th.

at that age? a 4th is plenty IMO.

Wayne is an excellent WR right now and should be for another couple years at least. Your average 4th rounder will play special teams for a few years than be out of the league. Any team who's in need of a WR would be silly not to trade a 4th rounder for Wayne imo.

i think you are missing the benefits of hitting on a 4th rounder. When you hit on a guy like Brandon Marshall, Stephen Tulloch, or Owen Daniels you get to pay them peanuts for 4 years so it's worth it.Wayne is gonna want a hefty contract that will take him into decline phase of his career. Also, there is some competition as Lloyd can do a lot of the same things and is a few years younger

 

[Donnybrook]

1. Colts trade Wayne to Bills for 4th rounder

The Bills traded Lee Evans for a 4th rounder and 5 weeks later they are going to give a 4th rounder for Wayne. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

1. Colts trade Wayne to Bills for 4th rounder

The Bills traded Lee Evans for a 4th rounder and 5 weeks later they are going to give a 4th rounder for Wayne. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me?

Yes it does, because Wayne >>> Evans and like so many of you like to say, "and it isn't even close".

 

[footballnerd]

Schefter is a dancing monkey that gets phone calls from NFL insiders. That doesn't mean he knows more about what a good trade would be.

Good posting, ESPN using his reporting name to generate ratings. Apparently its working.

 

[Donnybrook]

1. Colts trade Wayne to Bills for 4th rounder

The Bills traded Lee Evans for a 4th rounder and 5 weeks later they are going to give a 4th rounder for Wayne. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me?

Yes it does, because Wayne >>> Evans and like so many of you like to say, "and it isn't even close".

Lee Evans has two years left on his contract and Wayne only has one. Wayne is going to want top 5 money next year so it is a little closer than you suggest. Bills young group of WRs seem to be doing alright without him.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

Wayne is an excellent WR right now and should be for another couple years at least. Your average 4th rounder will play special teams for a few years than be out of the league. Any team who's in need of a WR would be silly not to trade a 4th rounder for Wayne imo.

i think you are missing the benefits of hitting on a 4th rounder. When you hit on a guy like Brandon Marshall, Stephen Tulloch, or Owen Daniels you get to pay them peanuts for 4 years so it's worth it.Wayne is gonna want a hefty contract that will take him into decline phase of his career. Also, there is some competition as Lloyd can do a lot of the same things and is a few years younger

I understand that hitting on a 4th rounder is very valuable. However, I also understand that the likelihood of hitting on a 4th rounder such that they are valuable starters for multiple years of their rookie contract is very slim. So it becomes a cost/benefit scenario. I'd take the sure thing in Reggie Wayne over a lottery ticket 4th round pick.

Wayne is an excellent WR right now and should be for another couple years at least. Your average 4th rounder will play special teams for a few years than be out of the league. Any team who's in need of a WR would be silly not to trade a 4th rounder for Wayne imo.

So, you're willing to give up a 3rd and also extend a 30-something-soon-to-be-a-possession-WR?

I consider 3rd rounders to be considerably more valuable than a 4th rounder. So for a team to trade a 3rd rounder for Wayne, I'd say the team would need to be a team that is challenging for a playoff spot/superbowl who needs WR help. Teams like the Bills, or Titans fit that scenario.

 

[mad sweeney]

He's also suggested a 2nd and 4th from the Seahawks to Cincy for Palmer.

Brown is not going to trade Palmer, even though it makes sense on so many levels. He has his big boy pants on and is going to show players who is boss to the detriment of team and the fans.

I guess he figures that if he trades Palmer he would be opening a gate that other players would likely plow through, both now and in the future. I don't blame him, because everyone knows Cincy is a terrible place to play, so why make it easier to escape hell?

Cincy sure looks like they are having fun this season. The players are looking excited to be playing good football and someone has been putting up pretty decent drafts for the Bengals and I'm not talking just first rounders. The days of Cincy being a place players don't want to be are coming to a end. I would trade Palmer if I could get proper value, but no one wants to give Brown value because they feel he has to get rid of him. I can't blame Brown on this one. Seahawks offer a 1st and Brown would do it. I think Palmer, Ocho being gone has done wonders for the Bengals. TO did a pretty decent job, however the Bengals are looking to change over and IMO they have done just that.

Seahawks offer a first and I'll go up there and kick Pete in the nuts. They've done a pretty decent job in just 2 offseasons in building a team that they can plop a young QB into next year and start the real progress. They wanted Hass for only 1 year for this reason. Bringing in another mid 30s QB with injury issues would be a step backwards by itself, add in the picls they'd be giving away and it'd be a leap.I feel bad for Carson. I don't recall him ever having public problems with the team and he had to deal with Joke-O, and the criminals and delinquents the Bengals scooped up over the years.

 

[Shutout]

Wayne is an excellent WR right now and should be for another couple years at least. Your average 4th rounder will play special teams for a few years than be out of the league. Any team who's in need of a WR would be silly not to trade a 4th rounder for Wayne imo.

i think you are missing the benefits of hitting on a 4th rounder. When you hit on a guy like Brandon Marshall, Stephen Tulloch, or Owen Daniels you get to pay them peanuts for 4 years so it's worth it.Wayne is gonna want a hefty contract that will take him into decline phase of his career. Also, there is some competition as Lloyd can do a lot of the same things and is a few years younger

I understand that hitting on a 4th rounder is very valuable. However, I also understand that the likelihood of hitting on a 4th rounder such that they are valuable starters for multiple years of their rookie contract is very slim. So it becomes a cost/benefit scenario. I'd take the sure thing in Reggie Wayne over a lottery ticket 4th round pick.

Yes. There is a stat that Gil Bryant (I believe) threw out that said that something like 82% of all players taken in the 4th and lower rounds are out of the league in 3 years, on average. So, yeah, you are really swinging for the fences. For everytime you grab an Elvis Dumervil in the 4th, you also spend 20 other draft picks on someone that will never be around long enough to learn a playbook. It AMAZES me how quickly people in FF forums just dismiss players. Reggie Wayne isn't his usual, "8 years in a row, never missed a game in 8 years, 1000+ yards/ 80+ catches every single year" self for 5 weeks this year and people start labeling him a "possession receiver who is clearly slowing down". Couldn't possibly have anything in the world to do with the fact that one of the best three QBS you will ever see in your life got yanked out from under him and the Colts revamped their offense in a two week period, using Kerry Collins? Can't BE CONCEIVED that Reggie actually is still ok but is in a bad spot? Hold on a sec (answers phone)..."Yes? Hi Steve Smith. You say what? They said the same about you? Ok...Understood."

C'mon people. Just because he disappoints you in fantasy for the first time in a decade doesn't mean you have physically seen his skills erode. And I would bet anyone on the planet that if Peyton Manning walked in that door today that within two games, Wayne would be back to business as usual.

Do you really think that Wayne AND Clark AND Collie all got that bad right here...right now..? Be realistic. The people that are looking at an age and making these statements without looking at how it affects ALL the Colts and without taking into consideration how much of it is the team.....those people are just being lazy and irresponsible.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

I am always amazed at how much people value draft picks, but I refuse to believe Wayne couldn't net better than a 4th.

at that age? a 4th is plenty IMO.

Wayne is an excellent WR right now and should be for another couple years at least. Your average 4th rounder will play special teams for a few years than be out of the league. Any team who's in need of a WR would be silly not to trade a 4th rounder for Wayne imo.

It really isn't only about what round in the draft that player is worth. It usually has a lot more to do with paying their salary. Reggie Wayne is a very good receiver. However, I don't think that he will excel anywhere like he did with Manning. It wasn't just about Wayne being a great WR... it had a lot to do with Manning and Wayne having great chemistry. I don't think that Reggie Wayne is one of the best WRs in the league right now. He is very good though.

 

[Fensalk]

I consider a 4th round draft pick a "high" pick, but I admit a significant part of that value is that it allows you to package two 4th rounders to move up into the 3rd or 2nd to grab a better player.

A 5th rounder is not really valuable. The number of 5th rounders that make an impact in the NFL is not very big at all.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I don't have any clue why people are thinking the Colts should sell off all their decent players for throwaway draft picks that have a 95% chance of never amounting to anything. They'll get Peyton back next year and instantly be a contender again and they'll miss Wayne/Mathis at that point if they were given away for nothing.

Peyton is a whopping 7 months older than Brady. He still has football left to play.

 

[FLY IGGLES FLY]

Schefter is a dancing monkey that gets phone calls from NFL insiders. That doesn't mean he knows more about what a good trade would be.

Good posting, ESPN using his reporting name to generate ratings. Apparently its working.

You guys may or may not have a point about Schefter's football acumen, but he consistently manages to get useful and ACCURATE information. I've never seen anything he reported turn out to be inaccurate, and there is no other NFL reporter I can say that about.