Adrian Peterson Status Updates (2 Viewers)

[JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo]

Glazer reported NFLPA is going to file for arbitration if AP isnt reinstated by tomorrow.

And he plays that off as news?

NEWS would be detailing the thinking of the Vikings IF he is reinstated. Reinstatement means nothing if the Vikings dont put him on the field.

Speculating on what the Viking are thinking is news but announcing what the players union is going to do isnt?

I saw the report and others this morning on this. These guys need to make it clear that the NFLPA process with the NFL is just one of the dominoes that needs to fall. Instead he reported it like it was the only issue to resolve.

Well some people thought that there would be a taxi waiting to drive AP straight to practice once he was done taking the plea so...yea

 

[Jerry Curl]

ESPN just reported that Goodell won't reinstate Peterson if he refuses to turn over his sealed court records.

So he's going to blatantly violate the deal he made with Peterson in September?

The wording didn't say that Peterson would be reinstated right after his legal case would be settled. I can see Goddell just delaying this for a couple more weeks to save some face but I don't think he'll slap 6 games on Peterson.

Can you share a copy of the document you were able to get your hands on?

 

[JimmyJabroni]

I think they said tonight on NBC that Roger has till 4pm Monday to reinstate him or the NFLPA will file a grievance and an arbitrator will decide if he'll be reinstated?

 

[JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo]

ESPN just reported that Goodell won't reinstate Peterson if he refuses to turn over his sealed court records.

So he's going to blatantly violate the deal he made with Peterson in September?

The wording didn't say that Peterson would be reinstated right after his legal case would be settled. I can see Goddell just delaying this for a couple more weeks to save some face but I don't think he'll slap 6 games on Peterson.

Can you share a copy of the document you were able to get your hands on?

He has to pull the document from his ### first.

Nah, I pulled it outta your mom's panties drawer. J/K

I thought we were talking about this letter?

http://profootballta...tter-agreement/

PFT also has obtained a copy of the original letter agreement that placed Peterson on the Commisioner-Exempt list, at a time when neither the NFL nor the Vikings could do anything to keep Peterson away from the team, under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

The letter from NFLPA general counsel Tom DePaso to NFL general counsel Jeff Pash states as follows: “The player agrees that, effective as of yesterday (September 17, 2014), he is placed on the Commissioner-Exempt list with full pay until the criminal charges currently pending against him are adjudicated. No discipline will be processed or imposed against the player, by the Club or the League, until after the pending criminal charges are adjudicated.”

The letter agreement, which bears signatures of both DePaso and Pash, doesn’t explicitly state that Peterson will be reinstated once the criminal charges are resolved, but the letter clearly implies that the arrangement ends once the legal charges have been resolved.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

The NFLPA, standing up for the rights of wife beaters, child abusers, girlfriend beaters, and doped up gun nuts, because dammit, its the right thing to do.

 

[Bojang0301]

The NFLPA, standing up for the rights of wife beaters, child abusers, girlfriend beaters, and doped up gun nights, because dammit, its the right thing to do.

And what if the owners started docking pay checks for jay walking and speeding tickets? Why not? They already do for head phones and socks. They do that crap to cut salary. There is more at stake than the moral high ground every person with Ditka in their SN seems to have around here.

...And on top of that the NFL is breaking their own GD policy in both of the players you choose to mention. Perhaps you would like to regurgitate the list of offenders over the last 50 years and see how long their suspension was. I'm guessing pretty close to zero.

 

[Insein]

The NFLPA, standing up for the rights of wife beaters, child abusers, girlfriend beaters, and doped up gun nights, because dammit, its the right thing to do.

Just like every other union in existence ever.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

The NFLPA, standing up for the rights of wife beaters, child abusers, girlfriend beaters, and doped up gun nights, because dammit, its the right thing to do.

And what if the owners started docking pay checks for jay walking and speeding tickets? Why not? They already do for head phones and socks. They do that crap to cut salary. There is more at stake than the moral high ground every person with Ditka in their SN seems to have around here.

...And on top of that the NFL is breaking their own GD policy in both of the players you choose to mention. Perhaps you would like to regurgitate the list of offenders over the last 50 years and see how long their suspension was. I'm guessing pretty close to zero.

You're really quite, ... emotional.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

The NFLPA, standing up for the rights of wife beaters, child abusers, girlfriend beaters, and doped up gun nights, because dammit, its the right thing to do.

Just like every other union in existence ever.

Pretty much. I prefer Guilds.

 

[Jerry Curl]

I think they said tonight on NBC that Roger has till 4pm Monday to reinstate him or the NFLPA will file a grievance and an arbitrator will decide if he'll be reinstated?

Florio said 5pm, but I think that is just for show as the league closes shop at 4pm.

My prediction is the commish will remove him from the list but the Vikings will deactivate him until its resolved in the league office like they would have before the CEL because if he doesnt the NFLPA will win its grievance and its not a debate. The NFLPA will then file another grievance against the team and this is going to become such a mess. Legal documents surpass public opinion in every court of law in the United States, everytime. To have breech of contract because you cant make up your mind or because of the public you need to satisfy and backed yourself in the corner is the exact reason we have contracts.

I cant wait until Goodell loses his job over this. He has only one decision in which he will not be ran through the legal system. If he much rather make public opinion or sponsors happy so be it, it will put at risk what he and the league will lose in court and grievances, he has to reinstate AP with time served to avoid it. The NFLPA is locked and loaded and they have plans in place before we even hear about them.

No other player will ever agree to go on this list or sign any piece of paper which has an agreement with the NFL or Goodell on it again. The NFLPA will not negotiate with Roger and the League again if they go shady on the CEL. This has much bigger ramifications then just ADPs playing time, this has players right all over it and the union is going to use this as its push to get the personal conduct policy redone. Greater good for the league is to let Peterson play, not the players, they want this dispute.

Goodell has one choice, and he will still go another route. This is why he is no longer capable of being commish.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

So what of these rumblings that some of the Vikigns brass doesnt want him to re-instated? And that the league office is delaying on their behalf?

 

[Jerry Curl]

So what of these rumblings that some of the Vikigns brass doesnt want him to re-instated? And that the league office is delaying on their behalf?

Thats why I believe they will deactivate him once he is removed from the list. Removal from the CEL is what is agreed to by the adjudication, the leagues hand is forced with that, but the team can deactivated him up to four games if I am correct. If the team deactivates him that will be an NFLPA issue to for clear reasons. When it comes down to it, with a team that is 4-5 and a guy who the locker room loves, does the brass care about a few sponsors when many more can be gained from getting wins?

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

When it comes down to it, with a team that is 4-5 and a guy who the locker room loves, does the brass care about a few sponsors when many more can be gained from getting wins?

No idea how reliable any of this is, but for whatever it's worth:

The Vikings harbor some serious concerns about Adrian Peterson's physical and mental state following his prolonged layoff while facing felony child abuse charges, and there are no guarantees at this point that they would welcome him back if reinstated, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

The team took a significant public relations hit due to its handling of Peterson after the initial charges came to light, as well as losing a key sponsor. The Vikings have become very sensitive to how they would look welcoming back a player once unquestionably the face of the franchise under these circumstances and following this prolonged legal saga.

While Peterson pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor assault charge that did not include any child abuse designations, the pictures of the wounds on the victim, his 4-year-old son, have been widely circulated on the Internet, and Peterson never denied striking him repeatedly with a switch.

Peterson's bloated contract during a time when running back salaries are being scaled back always loomed over this coming offseason, and, with the team surging in recent weeks without him and running the ball increasingly well, there are also concerns about how bringing him back might impact the team in an averse manner, sources said.

Peterson admitted to using marijuana to a court employee during one hearing and he is not in game shape, according to sources with knowledge of the situation, and has not been working out nearly to the degree he would have if he were playing. His marijuana use raises obvious red flags and, given his status as the greatest running back of his era, someone who ran for 2,000 yards not that long ago and demanded a significant part of the offensive snaps, there are concerns as well about how he might mesh with a young group of running backs who have been ascending.

Peterson has also seemed aloof and immature in the face of such serious charges, sources said, not seeming to grasp the magnitude of the situation, and there is a fear within the team of further backlash if they bring him back. At 4-5 the Vikings are on the periphery of the NFC playoff picture.

Peterson is set to make $12.75 million in base salary in 2015 -- 25 percent more than any other running back in the NFL (LeSean McCoy at $9.75M) -- and double every other running back in the league in total compensation in 2015. His contract was out of line with current NFL economic realities at his position already even before his legal problems, and several league sources continue to believe no matter what happens in the short term, Peterson will not be back with the Vikings in 2015, regardless.

His most recognizable sponsor, Nike, recently terminated its contract with Peterson. He has been paid just under $700,000 per week to stay away from the Vikings will his case was pending.

Peterson's Vikings tenure in peril; mental, physical state in question

 

[JimmyJabroni]

I think they said tonight on NBC that Roger has till 4pm Monday to reinstate him or the NFLPA will file a grievance and an arbitrator will decide if he'll be reinstated?

Florio said 5pm, but I think that is just for show as the league closes shop at 4pm.

My prediction is the commish will remove him from the list but the Vikings will deactivate him until its resolved in the league office like they would have before the CEL because if he doesnt the NFLPA will win its grievance and its not a debate. The NFLPA will then file another grievance against the team and this is going to become such a mess. Legal documents surpass public opinion in every court of law in the United States, everytime. To have breech of contract because you cant make up your mind or because of the public you need to satisfy and backed yourself in the corner is the exact reason we have contracts.

I cant wait until Goodell loses his job over this. He has only one decision in which he will not be ran through the legal system. If he much rather make public opinion or sponsors happy so be it, it will put at risk what he and the league will lose in court and grievances, he has to reinstate AP with time served to avoid it. The NFLPA is locked and loaded and they have plans in place before we even hear about them.

No other player will ever agree to go on this list or sign any piece of paper which has an agreement with the NFL or Goodell on it again. The NFLPA will not negotiate with Roger and the League again if they go shady on the CEL. This has much bigger ramifications then just ADPs playing time, this has players right all over it and the union is going to use this as its push to get the personal conduct policy redone. Greater good for the league is to let Peterson play, not the players, they want this dispute.

Goodell has one choice, and he will still go another route. This is why he is no longer capable of being commish.

If all of this hesitation is because of fear of league reputation, and team fear of pubic opinion and loss of sponsors....

I personally don't get the feeling that there will be some huge public backlash if Peterson is cleared and ready to go. I don't think there's going to be major protests or hate coming at the Vikings or NFL. I think a lot of people are willing to buy that he spanked his child in the way that he was raised and did so a little too aggressively and didn't realize it, and had no intent to injure. I think there could be a small vocal minority but that would pass quickly. I could be wrong though. Rice on the other hand, that video, and he's done nothing to repair his public image in the meantime, any team that takes him this season will most certainly deal with a lot of controversy. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I think a lot of people are willing to buy that he spanked his child in the way that he was raised and did so a little too aggressively and didn't realize it, and had no intent to injure.

If people were willing to buy the idea that he just spanked his kids a little too aggressively, they would've bought that idea in September. Many people didn't then, and I don't see why they'd feel any differently about discipline now.

I think the best argument in favor of the idea that there won't be significant public backlash is just that enough time has passed that the public has moved on. It's not that people's opinions of Peterson's actions have changed, it's just that people only sustain that kind of outrage temporarily. I could easily see it going either way - Peterson could be reinstated with little public outcry, or his reinstatement could reignite much of the outrage that was there two months ago when the pictures and texts first surfaced.

I thought it might be somewhat telling that Nike just dropped him the other day after the resolution of his legal case. I'd assume they're plugged into public sentiment on the issue, and the timing just seemed weird. If they were going to cut ties with him, why not do it two months ago? Instead they waited until now, and perhaps their gauge of the reaction from the legal outcome indicates that Peterson is still very much a PR liability.

 

[I Am the Stig]

I think a lot of people are willing to buy that he spanked his child in the way that he was raised and did so a little too aggressively and didn't realize it, and had no intent to injure.

If people were willing to buy the idea that he just spanked his kids a little too aggressively, they would've bought that idea in September. Many people didn't then, and I don't see why they'd feel any differently about discipline now.I think the best argument in favor of the idea that there won't be significant public backlash is just that enough time has passed that the public has moved on. It's not that people's opinions of Peterson's actions have changed, it's just that people only sustain that kind of outrage temporarily. I could easily see it going either way - Peterson could be reinstated with little public outcry, or his reinstatement could reignite much of the outrage that was there two months ago when the pictures and texts first surfaced.

I thought it might be somewhat telling that Nike just dropped him the other day after the resolution of his legal case. I'd assume they're plugged into public sentiment on the issue, and the timing just seemed weird. If they were going to cut ties with him, why not do it two months ago? Instead they waited until now, and perhaps their gauge of the reaction from the legal outcome indicates that Peterson is still very much a PR liability.

This really does not belong in this thread.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I think a lot of people are willing to buy that he spanked his child in the way that he was raised and did so a little too aggressively and didn't realize it, and had no intent to injure.

If people were willing to buy the idea that he just spanked his kids a little too aggressively, they would've bought that idea in September. Many people didn't then, and I don't see why they'd feel any differently about discipline now.I think the best argument in favor of the idea that there won't be significant public backlash is just that enough time has passed that the public has moved on. It's not that people's opinions of Peterson's actions have changed, it's just that people only sustain that kind of outrage temporarily. I could easily see it going either way - Peterson could be reinstated with little public outcry, or his reinstatement could reignite much of the outrage that was there two months ago when the pictures and texts first surfaced.

I thought it might be somewhat telling that Nike just dropped him the other day after the resolution of his legal case. I'd assume they're plugged into public sentiment on the issue, and the timing just seemed weird. If they were going to cut ties with him, why not do it two months ago? Instead they waited until now, and perhaps their gauge of the reaction from the legal outcome indicates that Peterson is still very much a PR liability.

This really does not belong in this thread.

So delete it.

 

[JimmyJabroni]

I think a lot of people are willing to buy that he spanked his child in the way that he was raised and did so a little too aggressively and didn't realize it, and had no intent to injure.

If people were willing to buy the idea that he just spanked his kids a little too aggressively, they would've bought that idea in September. Many people didn't then, and I don't see why they'd feel any differently about discipline now.

I think the best argument in favor of the idea that there won't be significant public backlash is just that enough time has passed that the public has moved on. It's not that people's opinions of Peterson's actions have changed, it's just that people only sustain that kind of outrage temporarily. I could easily see it going either way - Peterson could be reinstated with little public outcry, or his reinstatement could reignite much of the outrage that was there two months ago when the pictures and texts first surfaced.

I thought it might be somewhat telling that Nike just dropped him the other day after the resolution of his legal case. I'd assume they're plugged into public sentiment on the issue, and the timing just seemed weird. If they were going to cut ties with him, why not do it two months ago? Instead they waited until now, and perhaps their gauge of the reaction from the legal outcome indicates that Peterson is still very much a PR liability.

Maybe Nike was just waiting to see how this played out. Most thought this wouldn't be resolved before the season and he wouldn't be playing again this year. Maybe if it was March and AP's legal issues were over and football is not top in the public mind, it would be a story that would be more under the radar. Maybe they stick with him. Or it's really a guessing game right now and the company doesn't want to expose themselves to unnecessary potential risk.

 

[JimmyJabroni]

I think a lot of people are willing to buy that he spanked his child in the way that he was raised and did so a little too aggressively and didn't realize it, and had no intent to injure.

If people were willing to buy the idea that he just spanked his kids a little too aggressively, they would've bought that idea in September. Many people didn't then, and I don't see why they'd feel any differently about discipline now.I think the best argument in favor of the idea that there won't be significant public backlash is just that enough time has passed that the public has moved on. It's not that people's opinions of Peterson's actions have changed, it's just that people only sustain that kind of outrage temporarily. I could easily see it going either way - Peterson could be reinstated with little public outcry, or his reinstatement could reignite much of the outrage that was there two months ago when the pictures and texts first surfaced.

I thought it might be somewhat telling that Nike just dropped him the other day after the resolution of his legal case. I'd assume they're plugged into public sentiment on the issue, and the timing just seemed weird. If they were going to cut ties with him, why not do it two months ago? Instead they waited until now, and perhaps their gauge of the reaction from the legal outcome indicates that Peterson is still very much a PR liability.

This really does not belong in this thread.

We are not debating Child Rea

 

[JimmyJabroni]

AP tweets pic of himself as SuperDad

https://twitter.com/AdrianPeterson/status/531269187784966144

My beautiful daughter A'deja. Dad's & Donuts Day. #LOVE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B19yghLCIAAV195.jpg

 

[ROCKET]

I'm finding it hard to believe any team would bring back a guy with the baggage AP has in the best of scenarios. Add to that

A.The Vikings are not in playoff contention.

B. Peterson is getting up there in years/miles and plays arguably the easiest position to replace in football

C. Peterson's grossly high salary relevant to his position

D.Dealing with the backlash of corporate and public opinion when he returns.

E. RB seems to be the least of the teams worries on the field at this point.

AP will play somewhere down the road on most likely a much smaller contract. I would be floored to see him back in MN in 2014. The only question to me is how Minny will keep him from suiting up and how they can get out of this as cheaply as possible?

 

[ROCKET]

AP tweets pic of himself as SuperDad

https://twitter.com/AdrianPeterson/status/531269187784966144

My beautiful daughter A'deja. Dad's & Donuts Day. #LOVE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B19yghLCIAAV195.jpg

This type of stuff is only going to fuel the fire. He needs to lay low,WTF is advising this guy?

 

[JimmyJabroni]

AP tweets pic of himself as SuperDad

https://twitter.com/AdrianPeterson/status/531269187784966144

My beautiful daughter A'deja. Dad's & Donuts Day. #LOVE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B19yghLCIAAV195.jpg

This type of stuff is only going to fuel the fire. He needs to lay low,WTF is advising this guy?

I don't know. I wonder if anyone is advising him. Probably not the best idea to tweet out SuperDad pics.

or maybe it is...who knows

hopefully we will hear some new news in a few hours

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

The NFLPA, standing up for the rights of wife beaters, child abusers, girlfriend beaters, and doped up gun nights, because dammit, its the right thing to do.

Most "fiscal conservative strict constitutionalists" (your signature) believe in honoring legal contracts by their letter.

Oh, what am I saying? Most Scalia-ites are racist Teatrash.

I do believe in honoring contracts. I believe the league should honor theirs in this instance. That does not stop me from observing the reality of unions. That reality is that unthinking solidarity puts you in bed with some disgusting and nefarious characters. This may elevate the membership as a whole, or it may hold them back by holding the trade in disrepute. Its an open question and in this case just an observation.

I do appreciate the speed with which you managed to take offense and to imply that I am trash. You went from zero to sixty in a blink of an eye. Most impressive.

I don't notebook like some, nor really play the alias game. Obviously you have issues with me under another name. That's fine. I'm not for everybody.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Maybe Nike was just waiting to see how this played out. Most thought this wouldn't be resolved before the season and he wouldn't be playing again this year. Maybe if it was March and AP's legal issues were over and football is not top in the public mind, it would be a story that would be more under the radar. Maybe they stick with him. Or it's really a guessing game right now and the company doesn't want to expose themselves to unnecessary potential risk.

Right, I think we're on the same page. I agree that Nike probably was waiting to see how it would play out, and then gauge public sentiment. So the fact that they went ahead and cut ties with him now may indicate that public sentiment on the issue hasn't changed all that much since September - it's possible that people are still pretty upset about this and there will be blowback if the league/Vikings rush him back onto the field.

 

[JimmyJabroni]

Maybe Nike was just waiting to see how this played out. Most thought this wouldn't be resolved before the season and he wouldn't be playing again this year. Maybe if it was March and AP's legal issues were over and football is not top in the public mind, it would be a story that would be more under the radar. Maybe they stick with him. Or it's really a guessing game right now and the company doesn't want to expose themselves to unnecessary potential risk.

Right, I think we're on the same page. I agree that Nike probably was waiting to see how it would play out, and then gauge public sentiment. So the fact that they went ahead and cut ties with him now may indicate that public sentiment on the issue hasn't changed all that much since September - it's possible that people are still pretty upset about this and there will be blowback if the league/Vikings rush him back onto the field.

It's definitely possible. And I would hope that a major company like NIke would have a better educated guess on it than I would.

On the other hand it might just be a pure business risk vs. reward decision.

What they gain from keeping him vs. potential backlash, if there is any.

What do they really gain from keeping him? They can find another superstar to partner with tomorrow.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I think the Vikings are trying to figure out how to unload his contract, which is crippling, retain some trade value, and both win the Superbowl this year (not gonna happen), and conversely find a way to have a top five draft choice next year by losing enough games. I do not get the feeling they have picked a direction. Player contracts and player behavior can put a team in a pickle.

 

[BigJim®]

AP tweets pic of himself as SuperDad

https://twitter.com/AdrianPeterson/status/531269187784966144

My beautiful daughter A'deja. Dad's & Donuts Day. #LOVE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B19yghLCIAAV195.jpg

This type of stuff is only going to fuel the fire. He needs to lay low,WTF is advising this guy?

Well, and it shows public opinion hasn't become a non-issue.

Another turdish Twin Cities columnist making waves:

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_26903329/tom-powers-vikings-should-just-cut-adrian-peterson

 

[KellysHeroes]

I think a lot of people are willing to buy that he spanked his child in the way that he was raised and did so a little too aggressively and didn't realize it, and had no intent to injure.

If people were willing to buy the idea that he just spanked his kids a little too aggressively, they would've bought that idea in September. Many people didn't then, and I don't see why they'd feel any differently about discipline now.

I think the best argument in favor of the idea that there won't be significant public backlash is just that enough time has passed that the public has moved on. It's not that people's opinions of Peterson's actions have changed, it's just that people only sustain that kind of outrage temporarily. I could easily see it going either way - Peterson could be reinstated with little public outcry, or his reinstatement could reignite much of the outrage that was there two months ago when the pictures and texts first surfaced.

I thought it might be somewhat telling that Nike just dropped him the other day after the resolution of his legal case. I'd assume they're plugged into public sentiment on the issue, and the timing just seemed weird. If they were going to cut ties with him, why not do it two months ago? Instead they waited until now, and perhaps their gauge of the reaction from the legal outcome indicates that Peterson is still very much a PR liability.

I think people's mind set was totally different in Sept after the Ray Rice video followed by the flat out lie by the NFL; people were angry at the NFL and the Peterson news broke at the exact wrong time. If this broke a few weeks earlier or later it would of been handled differently. People were pissed at the 9ers for keeping McDonald playing but after a few weeks the mob cooled off.

as for Nike, can't blame them... their probably paying him a ton of dough and nobody is buying his jersey.

 

[Insein]

I'm finding it hard to believe any team would bring back a guy with the baggage AP has in the best of scenarios. Add to that

A.The Vikings are not in playoff contention.

They're not? 4-5 and the 6th seed is 6-3. Seems like they're pretty in it.

 

[cstu]

I'm finding it hard to believe any team would bring back a guy with the baggage AP has in the best of scenarios. Add to that

A.The Vikings are not in playoff contention.

They're not? 4-5 and the 6th seed is 6-3. Seems like they're pretty in it.

NFL teams give up when they're a 1.5 games out of the playoffs with 7 games to go. HTH.

 

[JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo]

AP tweets pic of himself as SuperDad

https://twitter.com/AdrianPeterson/status/531269187784966144

My beautiful daughter A'deja. Dad's & Donuts Day. #LOVE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B19yghLCIAAV195.jpg

This type of stuff is only going to fuel the fire. He needs to lay low,WTF is advising this guy?

Well, and it shows public opinion hasn't become a non-issue.

Another turdish Twin Cities columnist making waves:

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_26903329/tom-powers-vikings-should-just-cut-adrian-peterson

This is my favorite part of the article

Not everyone feels this way, of course. There is a segment of the population that is tipsy on cheap beer and drooling nacho cheese dip and wearing "Free AP!" T-shirts. They're belching "due process" during commercial breaks. I certainly respect those people and will leave it at: We politely disagree.

Whut?

 

[TDorBust]

I'm finding it hard to believe any team would bring back a guy with the baggage AP has in the best of scenarios. Add to that

A.The Vikings are not in playoff contention.

They're not? 4-5 and the 6th seed is 6-3. Seems like they're pretty in it.

NFL teams give up when they're a 1.5 games out of the playoffs with 7 games to go. HTH.

If anyone thinks AP makes the Vikings a playoff team I think you have some high hopes. At this point in the season the Vikings are needing to pretty much run the table to have a chance at getting a wild card at 11-5. A 10-6 record likely there is some messy ties for the 6th wild card but would they win all the tie-breakers?

Vikings Schedule likely losses - Packers, @Lions, @Dolphins, not to mention the Bears have got to be steaming after being embarrassed @NE and @GB and you would think would rebound some and playing Chicago is never easy. (FYI AP has won 1 time in Chicago his whole career and that was in 2007 in his 5th game as a rookie...)

Other Team Records at end of year (my thoughts at least):

Cardinals (13-3/12-4)

Eagles (12-4/11-5)

Packers (12-4/11-5)

Some NFC South Team wins Division

Lions (11-5)

Cowboys (11-5/10-6)

49ers (11-5/10-6)

Seahawks (10-6 / 9-7)

Vikings w/ AP (9-7/ 8-8)

Vikings w/o AP (7-9)

 

[Jerry Curl]

I'm finding it hard to believe any team would bring back a guy with the baggage AP has in the best of scenarios. Add to that

A.The Vikings are not in playoff contention.

B. Peterson is getting up there in years/miles and plays arguably the easiest position to replace in football

C. Peterson's grossly high salary relevant to his position

D.Dealing with the backlash of corporate and public opinion when he returns.

E. RB seems to be the least of the teams worries on the field at this point.

AP will play somewhere down the road on most likely a much smaller contract. I would be floored to see him back in MN in 2014. The only question to me is how Minny will keep him from suiting up and how they can get out of this as cheaply as possible?

They are 4-5, your opinion has nothing to do with the factual point that they are alive in the playoffs.

 

[JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo]

I'm finding it hard to believe any team would bring back a guy with the baggage AP has in the best of scenarios. Add to that

A.The Vikings are not in playoff contention.

They're not? 4-5 and the 6th seed is 6-3. Seems like they're pretty in it.

NFL teams give up when they're a 1.5 games out of the playoffs with 7 games to go. HTH.

If anyone thinks AP makes the Vikings a playoff team I think you have some high hopes. At this point in the season the Vikings are needing to pretty much run the table to have a chance at getting a wild card at 11-5. A 10-6 record likely there is some messy ties for the 6th wild card but would they win all the tie-breakers?

Vikings Schedule likely losses - Packers, @Lions, @Dolphins, not to mention the Bears have got to be steaming after being embarrassed @NE and @GB and you would think would rebound some and playing Chicago is never easy. (FYI AP has won 1 time in Chicago his whole career and that was in 2007 in his 5th game as a rookie...)

Other Team Records at end of year (my thoughts at least):

Cardinals (13-3/12-4)

Eagles (12-4/11-5)

Packers (12-4/11-5)

Some NFC South Team wins Division

Lions (11-5)

Cowboys (11-5/10-6)

49ers (11-5/10-6)

Seahawks (10-6 / 9-7)

Vikings w/ AP (9-7/ 8-8)

Vikings w/o AP (7-9)

Solid argument and I agree that AP alone won't make them playoff caliber. Plenty other things need to be fixed, but, stranger things have happened.

All things being normal, AP gives them a better shot. Which is why I find it funny that the rumor is that Vikings brass is divided on this.

 

[encaitar]

Shouldn't be any surprise that the Vikings office is divided. The guys who have jobs that depend on them winning want AP back now. The guys who have jobs that depend on team revenue numbers are worried about sponsor loss and want AP to stay away.

 

[JimmyJabroni]

Statement From The Vikings Regarding Adrian Peterson

Monday, November 10, 2014 12:06 p.m.

Eden Prairie, MN (November 10, 2014) – In regards to Adrian Peterson's status with the Minnesota Vikings, at this time his potential reinstatement is under NFL guidelines. As an organization, we respect and understand the league’s process. In the interim, our focus is on the team and preparing for this weekend's game against the Bears.

Courtesy: Minnesota Vikings

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Statement From The Vikings Regarding Adrian Peterson

Monday, November 10, 2014 12:06 p.m.

Eden Prairie, MN (November 10, 2014) – In regards to Adrian Peterson's status with the Minnesota Vikings, at this time his potential reinstatement is under NFL guidelines. As an organization, we respect and understand the league’s process. In the interim, our focus is on the team and preparing for this weekend's game against the Bears.

Courtesy: Minnesota Vikings

Read: "We're cowering behind the league's skirt right now, please don't ask us any more questions. Thank you."

 

[JimmyJabroni]

Speaking Monday, Vikings coach Mike Zimmer confirmed the Vikings would welcome Adrian Peterson back, but said the situation is in the hands of the NFL.

"We love the kid," Zimmer said of his superstar back. "He's done everything we've asked." Zimmer said the league has not provided a timetable on its decision to activate AD from the commissioner's exempt list. The Washington Post's Mark Maske calls it a "fluid situation that could change daily." It appears unlikely that Peterson is activated for Week 11, but it can't yet be ruled out.
Nov 10 - 1:23 PM

 

[ryno1980]

AP tweets pic of himself as SuperDad

https://twitter.com/AdrianPeterson/status/531269187784966144

My beautiful daughter A'deja. Dad's & Donuts Day. #LOVE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B19yghLCIAAV195.jpg

This type of stuff is only going to fuel the fire. He needs to lay low,WTF is advising this guy?

Well, and it shows public opinion hasn't become a non-issue.

Another turdish Twin Cities columnist making waves:

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_26903329/tom-powers-vikings-should-just-cut-adrian-peterson

This is my favorite part of the article

Not everyone feels this way, of course. There is a segment of the population that is tipsy on cheap beer and drooling nacho cheese dip and wearing "Free AP!" T-shirts. They're belching "due process" during commercial breaks. I certainly respect those people and will leave it at: We politely disagree.

Whut?

This columnist's idea that Peterson is "past and his prime" and not worth keeping around is strange, too. Last year was a step down from the 2,000-yard season prior but dang. McKinnon's development, while promising, is nice but he's not Peterson. He can't possibly think Peterson won't help them win football games, let alone calling it a 'no-brainer' to cut him.

 

[ryno1980]

I'm finding it hard to believe any team would bring back a guy with the baggage AP has in the best of scenarios. Add to that

A.The Vikings are not in playoff contention.

They're not? 4-5 and the 6th seed is 6-3. Seems like they're pretty in it.

NFL teams give up when they're a 1.5 games out of the playoffs with 7 games to go. HTH.

If anyone thinks AP makes the Vikings a playoff team I think you have some high hopes. At this point in the season the Vikings are needing to pretty much run the table to have a chance at getting a wild card at 11-5. A 10-6 record likely there is some messy ties for the 6th wild card but would they win all the tie-breakers?

Vikings Schedule likely losses - Packers, @Lions, @Dolphins, not to mention the Bears have got to be steaming after being embarrassed @NE and @GB and you would think would rebound some and playing Chicago is never easy. (FYI AP has won 1 time in Chicago his whole career and that was in 2007 in his 5th game as a rookie...)

Other Team Records at end of year (my thoughts at least):

Cardinals (13-3/12-4)

Eagles (12-4/11-5)

Packers (12-4/11-5)

Some NFC South Team wins Division

Lions (11-5)

Cowboys (11-5/10-6)

49ers (11-5/10-6)

Seahawks (10-6 / 9-7)

Vikings w/ AP (9-7/ 8-8)

Vikings w/o AP (7-9)

So you think Kaepernick might lead the 49ers to a 6-1 record the rest of the way? With games at NYG, two Seattle matchups, Chargers and Arizona? Talk about high hopes. Even Seattle has a very tough schedule, while the Vikings get to play the Bears twice.

 

[TDorBust]

I'm finding it hard to believe any team would bring back a guy with the baggage AP has in the best of scenarios. Add to that

A.The Vikings are not in playoff contention.

They're not? 4-5 and the 6th seed is 6-3. Seems like they're pretty in it.

NFL teams give up when they're a 1.5 games out of the playoffs with 7 games to go. HTH.

If anyone thinks AP makes the Vikings a playoff team I think you have some high hopes. At this point in the season the Vikings are needing to pretty much run the table to have a chance at getting a wild card at 11-5. A 10-6 record likely there is some messy ties for the 6th wild card but would they win all the tie-breakers?

Vikings Schedule likely losses - Packers, @Lions, @Dolphins, not to mention the Bears have got to be steaming after being embarrassed @NE and @GB and you would think would rebound some and playing Chicago is never easy. (FYI AP has won 1 time in Chicago his whole career and that was in 2007 in his 5th game as a rookie...)

Other Team Records at end of year (my thoughts at least):

Cardinals (13-3/12-4)

Eagles (12-4/11-5)

Packers (12-4/11-5)

Some NFC South Team wins Division

Lions (11-5)

Cowboys (11-5/10-6)

49ers (11-5/10-6)

Seahawks (10-6 / 9-7)

Vikings w/ AP (9-7/ 8-8)

Vikings w/o AP (7-9)

Solid argument and I agree that AP alone won't make them playoff caliber. Plenty other things need to be fixed, but, stranger things have happened.

All things being normal, AP gives them a better shot. Which is why I find it funny that the rumor is that Vikings brass is divided on this.

I think that's the point, they might have a better chance but likely if they are being realistic they are not planning their post-season even if AP comes back. The reason they are probably weighing their options with AP is:

1.) If they miss the playoffs and go lets say 9-7 they now lose draft position to pick in the top 5-10 picks

2.) Media perception around the team allowing a "bad person"(please don't weigh in on if he is bad or not, some people believe it so thats their viewpoint) to play (possibly costing them a few of these non-diehard fans that would feel he was not punished enough)

3.) Sponsor dollars in the short term potentially could take a hit as people back away from AP + the Vikings (there is much more likelihood of losing money with AP on the field as I don't see sponsorships coming out of the woodwork because the Vikings stick by AP during this season, in the off-season your likely going to gain the same sponsors if you go 8-8 vs 4-12 even as you can sell the fact that AP will be back next season and in the best shape of his career after a season off)

Could AP still play this year? Anything is possible but I think the NFL, Vikings, and top $ sponsors all would have to agree that they stand behind AP playing this year and not having him sit out a season. Don't forget the NFL could still apply the 6 games to AP and not do it retroactively since the exempt list is not technically a suspension on the flip side the Vikings could put AP on the inactive list as well as from what I heard that is pretty much up to the team how they use that. I know there was some talk at the start of the season about Herm Edwards putting players on the exempt list as almost punishment for their actions.

 

[LawFitz]

[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]The public backlash argument is stale. [/SIZE]80% of the public now supports Peterson's return this season.

His head coach wants him back. His teammates want him back. His union wants him back. He will be back. If not this weekend, then very soon. Prepare accordingly.

 

[TDorBust]

I'm finding it hard to believe any team would bring back a guy with the baggage AP has in the best of scenarios. Add to that

A.The Vikings are not in playoff contention.

They're not? 4-5 and the 6th seed is 6-3. Seems like they're pretty in it.

NFL teams give up when they're a 1.5 games out of the playoffs with 7 games to go. HTH.

If anyone thinks AP makes the Vikings a playoff team I think you have some high hopes. At this point in the season the Vikings are needing to pretty much run the table to have a chance at getting a wild card at 11-5. A 10-6 record likely there is some messy ties for the 6th wild card but would they win all the tie-breakers?

Vikings Schedule likely losses - Packers, @Lions, @Dolphins, not to mention the Bears have got to be steaming after being embarrassed @NE and @GB and you would think would rebound some and playing Chicago is never easy. (FYI AP has won 1 time in Chicago his whole career and that was in 2007 in his 5th game as a rookie...)

Other Team Records at end of year (my thoughts at least):

Cardinals (13-3/12-4)

Eagles (12-4/11-5)

Packers (12-4/11-5)

Some NFC South Team wins Division

Lions (11-5)

Cowboys (11-5/10-6)

49ers (11-5/10-6)

Seahawks (10-6 / 9-7)

Vikings w/ AP (9-7/ 8-8)

Vikings w/o AP (7-9)

So you think Kaepernick might lead the 49ers to a 6-1 record the rest of the way? With games at NYG, two Seattle matchups, Chargers and Arizona? Talk about high hopes. Even Seattle has a very tough schedule, while the Vikings get to play the Bears twice.

I am anti-49ers if anything but I look at their schedule as this.

1 or 2 losses

@Sea (these two usually hold serve at home)

Possibly Ari

Wins

Home - Sea, Was, SD, Ari (possible loss)

Road - @Oak, @NYG

Could they lose more? yes but at the same time they are not playing that many "special" teams the rest of the way. You can point to SD but they have not been that great as of late and the game is in San Francisco and even the Giants have been very sub-par. Really the only games I see as true tests are Seattle (who they normally split with) and Arizona.

Also to add I think the 49ers potentially are the first team OUT of the playoffs along with the Seahawks. The Vikings need to pass 3 teams at this point to get the 6th and final playoff spot.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

[SIZE=14.39px]The public backlash argument is stale. [/SIZE]80% of the public now supports Peterson's return this season.

His head coach wants him back. His teammates want him back. His union wants him back. He will be back. If not this weekend, then very soon. Prepare accordingly.

Do the league sponsors want him back?

 

[Tango]

[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]The public backlash argument is stale. [/SIZE]80% of the public now supports Peterson's return this season.

His head coach wants him back. His teammates want him back. His union wants him back. He will be back. If not this weekend, then very soon. Prepare accordingly.

That's super, but none of them get to make that decision.

Do his owners want him back on the field is all that matters.

...and what also matters (a little bit) is does his GM want him back.

And ownership is, predictably, punting.

I have no horse on this track, but it seems AP still has numerous dominoes to knock down before he plays a snap.

 

[Jerry Curl]

[SIZE=14.39px]The public backlash argument is stale. [/SIZE]80% of the public now supports Peterson's return this season.

His head coach wants him back. His teammates want him back. His union wants him back. He will be back. If not this weekend, then very soon. Prepare accordingly.

Do the league sponsors want him back?

This is when you realize the capitalistic world we live in. When people who spend money with you to sell their product have more control over your product because they try to sell their product using you. While companies who threaten to pull money for moral reasons normally have their own moral issues to deal with.

 

[ryno1980]

I'm finding it hard to believe any team would bring back a guy with the baggage AP has in the best of scenarios. Add to that

A.The Vikings are not in playoff contention.

They're not? 4-5 and the 6th seed is 6-3. Seems like they're pretty in it.

NFL teams give up when they're a 1.5 games out of the playoffs with 7 games to go. HTH.

If anyone thinks AP makes the Vikings a playoff team I think you have some high hopes. At this point in the season the Vikings are needing to pretty much run the table to have a chance at getting a wild card at 11-5. A 10-6 record likely there is some messy ties for the 6th wild card but would they win all the tie-breakers?

Vikings Schedule likely losses - Packers, @Lions, @Dolphins, not to mention the Bears have got to be steaming after being embarrassed @NE and @GB and you would think would rebound some and playing Chicago is never easy. (FYI AP has won 1 time in Chicago his whole career and that was in 2007 in his 5th game as a rookie...)

Other Team Records at end of year (my thoughts at least):

Cardinals (13-3/12-4)

Eagles (12-4/11-5)

Packers (12-4/11-5)

Some NFC South Team wins Division

Lions (11-5)

Cowboys (11-5/10-6)

49ers (11-5/10-6)

Seahawks (10-6 / 9-7)

Vikings w/ AP (9-7/ 8-8)

Vikings w/o AP (7-9)

So you think Kaepernick might lead the 49ers to a 6-1 record the rest of the way? With games at NYG, two Seattle matchups, Chargers and Arizona? Talk about high hopes. Even Seattle has a very tough schedule, while the Vikings get to play the Bears twice.

I am anti-49ers if anything but I look at their schedule as this.

1 or 2 losses

@Sea (these two usually hold serve at home)

Possibly Ari

Wins

Home - Sea, Was, SD, Ari (possible loss)

Road - @Oak, @NYG

Could they lose more? yes but at the same time they are not playing that many "special" teams the rest of the way. You can point to SD but they have not been that great as of late and the game is in San Francisco and even the Giants have been very sub-par. Really the only games I see as true tests are Seattle (who they normally split with) and Arizona.

Also to add I think the 49ers potentially are the first team OUT of the playoffs along with the Seahawks. The Vikings need to pass 3 teams at this point to get the 6th and final playoff spot.

Well obviously the odds would be on the more proven teams, but the Vikings were a team believing they could make the playoffs before the season and I don't think that's changed now. They are one of the best teams at rushing the passer in the league at this point. Getting Peterson back in the fold could provide a lift in confidence in addition to his abilities and potentially fresh legs. And the 49ers have shown to be very inconsistent (they did lose to the Bears at home, so finishing 4-3 is a lot more likely than 6-1). The point is, they would have a shot.

 

[LawFitz]

A few weeks from now (at most), AP will be either be wearing a purple/gold or silver/black jersey. Book it.

 

[FBG Moderator]

I think a lot of people are willing to buy that he spanked his child in the way that he was raised and did so a little too aggressively and didn't realize it, and had no intent to injure.

If people were willing to buy the idea that he just spanked his kids a little too aggressively, they would've bought that idea in September. Many people didn't then, and I don't see why they'd feel any differently about discipline now.I think the best argument in favor of the idea that there won't be significant public backlash is just that enough time has passed that the public has moved on. It's not that people's opinions of Peterson's actions have changed, it's just that people only sustain that kind of outrage temporarily. I could easily see it going either way - Peterson could be reinstated with little public outcry, or his reinstatement could reignite much of the outrage that was there two months ago when the pictures and texts first surfaced.

I thought it might be somewhat telling that Nike just dropped him the other day after the resolution of his legal case. I'd assume they're plugged into public sentiment on the issue, and the timing just seemed weird. If they were going to cut ties with him, why not do it two months ago? Instead they waited until now, and perhaps their gauge of the reaction from the legal outcome indicates that Peterson is still very much a PR liability.

This really does not belong in this thread.

We're supportive of having threads that focus on fantasy football and avoid political and social debates. But there doesn't seem to be any issue here, it discusses past and possible future public reaction without offering any judgment. Public reaction is a factor the NFL will be considering, so is definitely topical.

Also wanted to say to everyone, it's gotten chippy in here. Let's tone it back a bit please.