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Adrian Peterson -- Torn ACL/MCL (1 Viewer)

Totally wrong for him to be on the field... this isn't some 3rd round talent, this is the face of your franchise; a 100 million dollar running back playing hurt and playing the most volient position in the game. He looked like crap the other 2 games and he was at a higher risk of injury playing with a high ankle sprain. Heads are going to be lopped off for this and the HC should be the 1st. The owner should also put a pistal to his mouth because he had to sign off on having that kid out there as well. Peterson is a stud horse and stud horses want to race no matter how hurt they are, you don't leave that decision to them.

The good news is that his career isn't, just shorted... but 2012 is ruined.
Stop talking non-sense. It was an injury that can happen at anytime in the NFL. Peterson is a competator and wanted to play. He was disappointed in only getting 10 carries the week prior. Frazier might lose his job because of his win loss record but he definitely won't lose it for something he can't control. Belichick routinely leaves Brady in the game when they are up by 31 against the Chiefs and 21 against Indy and by all accounts he is a freaking genius.

 
Totally wrong for him to be on the field... this isn't some 3rd round talent, this is the face of your franchise; a 100 million dollar running back playing hurt and playing the most volient position in the game. He looked like crap the other 2 games and he was at a higher risk of injury playing with a high ankle sprain. Heads are going to be lopped off for this and the HC should be the 1st. The owner should also put a pistal to his mouth because he had to sign off on having that kid out there as well. Peterson is a stud horse and stud horses want to race no matter how hurt they are, you don't leave that decision to them.

The good news is that his career isn't, just shorted... but 2012 is ruined.
Stop talking non-sense. It was an injury that can happen at anytime in the NFL. Peterson is a competator and wanted to play. He was disappointed in only getting 10 carries the week prior. Frazier might lose his job because of his win loss record but he definitely won't lose it for something he can't control. Belichick routinely leaves Brady in the game when they are up by 31 against the Chiefs and 21 against Indy and by all accounts he is a freaking genius.
I generally agree w/ point, but comparing playing a RB vs. a QB who is protected by the refs/rules is ridiculous
 
Totally wrong for him to be on the field... this isn't some 3rd round talent, this is the face of your franchise; a 100 million dollar running back playing hurt and playing the most volient position in the game. He looked like crap the other 2 games and he was at a higher risk of injury playing with a high ankle sprain. Heads are going to be lopped off for this and the HC should be the 1st. The owner should also put a pistal to his mouth because he had to sign off on having that kid out there as well. Peterson is a stud horse and stud horses want to race no matter how hurt they are, you don't leave that decision to them.

The good news is that his career isn't, just shorted... but 2012 is ruined.
Stop talking non-sense. It was an injury that can happen at anytime in the NFL. Peterson is a competator and wanted to play. He was disappointed in only getting 10 carries the week prior. Frazier might lose his job because of his win loss record but he definitely won't lose it for something he can't control. Belichick routinely leaves Brady in the game when they are up by 31 against the Chiefs and 21 against Indy and by all accounts he is a freaking genius.
I generally agree w/ point, but comparing playing a RB vs. a QB who is protected by the refs/rules is ridiculous
Not as ridiculous as suggesting that teams that are out of playoff contention should sit their star players.
 
Totally wrong for him to be on the field... this isn't some 3rd round talent, this is the face of your franchise; a 100 million dollar running back playing hurt and playing the most volient position in the game. He looked like crap the other 2 games and he was at a higher risk of injury playing with a high ankle sprain. Heads are going to be lopped off for this and the HC should be the 1st. The owner should also put a pistal to his mouth because he had to sign off on having that kid out there as well. Peterson is a stud horse and stud horses want to race no matter how hurt they are, you don't leave that decision to them. The good news is that his career isn't, just shorted... but 2012 is ruined.
This is spoken like a casual fan. Just because YOU have lost interest, the season is over. Every NFL game is an event whether you are interested in it or not. Players are paid a lot of money to play in those events. Peterson was ready to play. This idea that he shouldn't play because you aren't interested in the Vikings games anymore is self-centered and wrong. If somebody is fired because you lost interest in the Vikings season, that person should be able to sue for wrongful termination.
 
Totally wrong for him to be on the field... this isn't some 3rd round talent, this is the face of your franchise; a 100 million dollar running back playing hurt and playing the most volient position in the game. He looked like crap the other 2 games and he was at a higher risk of injury playing with a high ankle sprain. Heads are going to be lopped off for this and the HC should be the 1st. The owner should also put a pistal to his mouth because he had to sign off on having that kid out there as well. Peterson is a stud horse and stud horses want to race no matter how hurt they are, you don't leave that decision to them. The good news is that his career isn't, just shorted... but 2012 is ruined.
Please tell us more. You are brilliant. :goodposting:
 
Totally wrong for him to be on the field... this isn't some 3rd round talent, this is the face of your franchise; a 100 million dollar running back playing hurt and playing the most volient position in the game. He looked like crap the other 2 games and he was at a higher risk of injury playing with a high ankle sprain. Heads are going to be lopped off for this and the HC should be the 1st. The owner should also put a pistal to his mouth because he had to sign off on having that kid out there as well. Peterson is a stud horse and stud horses want to race no matter how hurt they are, you don't leave that decision to them.

The good news is that his career isn't, just shorted... but 2012 is ruined.
Stop talking non-sense. It was an injury that can happen at anytime in the NFL. Peterson is a competator and wanted to play. He was disappointed in only getting 10 carries the week prior. Frazier might lose his job because of his win loss record but he definitely won't lose it for something he can't control. Belichick routinely leaves Brady in the game when they are up by 31 against the Chiefs and 21 against Indy and by all accounts he is a freaking genius.
I generally agree w/ point, but comparing playing a RB vs. a QB who is protected by the refs/rules is ridiculous
Not as ridiculous as suggesting that teams that are out of playoff contention should sit their star players.
I don't understand the purpose of your rejoinder; nowhere do I condone the argument that a healthy ADP should be held out of games. Must be a boring day for you
 
'cubbie5150 said:
'Avery said:
'cubbie5150 said:
'Donnybrook said:
'KellysHeroes said:
Totally wrong for him to be on the field... this isn't some 3rd round talent, this is the face of your franchise; a 100 million dollar running back playing hurt and playing the most volient position in the game. He looked like crap the other 2 games and he was at a higher risk of injury playing with a high ankle sprain. Heads are going to be lopped off for this and the HC should be the 1st. The owner should also put a pistal to his mouth because he had to sign off on having that kid out there as well. Peterson is a stud horse and stud horses want to race no matter how hurt they are, you don't leave that decision to them.

The good news is that his career isn't, just shorted... but 2012 is ruined.
Stop talking non-sense. It was an injury that can happen at anytime in the NFL. Peterson is a competator and wanted to play. He was disappointed in only getting 10 carries the week prior. Frazier might lose his job because of his win loss record but he definitely won't lose it for something he can't control. Belichick routinely leaves Brady in the game when they are up by 31 against the Chiefs and 21 against Indy and by all accounts he is a freaking genius.
I generally agree w/ point, but comparing playing a RB vs. a QB who is protected by the refs/rules is ridiculous
Not as ridiculous as suggesting that teams that are out of playoff contention should sit their star players.
I don't understand the purpose of your rejoinder; nowhere do I condone the argument that a healthy ADP should be held out of games. Must be a boring day for you
He was healthy enough to play and it's silly to contend that teams out of playoff contention should bench their star players who play at "violent" positions who are healthy enough to play.
 
'cubbie5150 said:
'Avery said:
'cubbie5150 said:
'Donnybrook said:
'KellysHeroes said:
Totally wrong for him to be on the field... this isn't some 3rd round talent, this is the face of your franchise; a 100 million dollar running back playing hurt and playing the most volient position in the game. He looked like crap the other 2 games and he was at a higher risk of injury playing with a high ankle sprain. Heads are going to be lopped off for this and the HC should be the 1st. The owner should also put a pistal to his mouth because he had to sign off on having that kid out there as well. Peterson is a stud horse and stud horses want to race no matter how hurt they are, you don't leave that decision to them.

The good news is that his career isn't, just shorted... but 2012 is ruined.
Stop talking non-sense. It was an injury that can happen at anytime in the NFL. Peterson is a competator and wanted to play. He was disappointed in only getting 10 carries the week prior. Frazier might lose his job because of his win loss record but he definitely won't lose it for something he can't control. Belichick routinely leaves Brady in the game when they are up by 31 against the Chiefs and 21 against Indy and by all accounts he is a freaking genius.
I generally agree w/ point, but comparing playing a RB vs. a QB who is protected by the refs/rules is ridiculous
Not as ridiculous as suggesting that teams that are out of playoff contention should sit their star players.
I don't understand the purpose of your rejoinder; nowhere do I condone the argument that a healthy ADP should be held out of games. Must be a boring day for you
He was healthy enough to play and it's silly to contend that teams out of playoff contention should bench their star players who play at "violent" positions who are healthy enough to play.
LOL, if he was so healthy why was his snaps so limited in the past 2 games; oh yeah he had a high ankle sprain 5 weeks earlier and rushed back from it. We're not talking about benching a guy that hadn't missed a game all season and then out of the blue on week 16 the coaching staff just decides to not play him because they are out of the playoffs... we're talking about a guy how had a bad injury and looked like poop for the 2 games before because he was playing injuried. Stop avoiding the evidence.

 
'cubbie5150 said:
'Avery said:
'cubbie5150 said:
'Donnybrook said:
'KellysHeroes said:
Totally wrong for him to be on the field... this isn't some 3rd round talent, this is the face of your franchise; a 100 million dollar running back playing hurt and playing the most volient position in the game. He looked like crap the other 2 games and he was at a higher risk of injury playing with a high ankle sprain. Heads are going to be lopped off for this and the HC should be the 1st. The owner should also put a pistal to his mouth because he had to sign off on having that kid out there as well. Peterson is a stud horse and stud horses want to race no matter how hurt they are, you don't leave that decision to them.

The good news is that his career isn't, just shorted... but 2012 is ruined.
Stop talking non-sense. It was an injury that can happen at anytime in the NFL. Peterson is a competator and wanted to play. He was disappointed in only getting 10 carries the week prior. Frazier might lose his job because of his win loss record but he definitely won't lose it for something he can't control. Belichick routinely leaves Brady in the game when they are up by 31 against the Chiefs and 21 against Indy and by all accounts he is a freaking genius.
I generally agree w/ point, but comparing playing a RB vs. a QB who is protected by the refs/rules is ridiculous
Not as ridiculous as suggesting that teams that are out of playoff contention should sit their star players.
I don't understand the purpose of your rejoinder; nowhere do I condone the argument that a healthy ADP should be held out of games. Must be a boring day for you
He was healthy enough to play and it's silly to contend that teams out of playoff contention should bench their star players who play at "violent" positions who are healthy enough to play.
LOL, if he was so healthy why was his snaps so limited in the past 2 games; oh yeah he had a high ankle sprain 5 weeks earlier and rushed back from it. We're not talking about benching a guy that hadn't missed a game all season and then out of the blue on week 16 the coaching staff just decides to not play him because they are out of the playoffs... we're talking about a guy how had a bad injury and looked like poop for the 2 games before because he was playing injuried. Stop avoiding the evidence.
Actually, he had only played in one game post injury prior to Saturday, not two. And I didn't watch the game, so I can't say you're wrong when you contend that he looked like poop, but the numbers, 10 for 60 at 6 YPC, suggest otherwise. They suggest he may have been limited due to his injury, but was nonetheless effective in a limited role.
 
LOL, if he was so healthy why was his snaps so limited in the past 2 games; oh yeah he had a high ankle sprain 5 weeks earlier and rushed back from it.

We're not talking about benching a guy that hadn't missed a game all season and then out of the blue on week 16 the coaching staff just decides to not play him because they are out of the playoffs... we're talking about a guy how had a bad injury and looked like poop for the 2 games before because he was playing injuried. Stop avoiding the evidence.
You really just need to accept that you're wrong.You act like he broke his ankle because it was already sprained and was rushed back.

You act like he had a concussion, was rushed back, and got hit in the head again causing even more damage.

No. His ankle was fine enough to play (otherwise he wouldn't be playing) and he got hit randomly in the KNEE. Ankle =/= knee. An ankle injury 5 weeks ago has no impact whatsoever on a freak hit to the knee. None at all. There is zero correlation between the two and you just need to accept it.

So basically your whole argument is "He wouldn't have gotten injured if he wasn't playing, and my personal opinion from my computer chair is that he shouldn't have been playing because I'm a better judge of his ankle than trainers/himself"

Brilliant sir, brilliant.

 
'cubbie5150 said:
'Avery said:
'cubbie5150 said:
'Donnybrook said:
'KellysHeroes said:
Totally wrong for him to be on the field... this isn't some 3rd round talent, this is the face of your franchise; a 100 million dollar running back playing hurt and playing the most volient position in the game. He looked like crap the other 2 games and he was at a higher risk of injury playing with a high ankle sprain. Heads are going to be lopped off for this and the HC should be the 1st. The owner should also put a pistal to his mouth because he had to sign off on having that kid out there as well. Peterson is a stud horse and stud horses want to race no matter how hurt they are, you don't leave that decision to them.

The good news is that his career isn't, just shorted... but 2012 is ruined.
Stop talking non-sense. It was an injury that can happen at anytime in the NFL. Peterson is a competator and wanted to play. He was disappointed in only getting 10 carries the week prior. Frazier might lose his job because of his win loss record but he definitely won't lose it for something he can't control. Belichick routinely leaves Brady in the game when they are up by 31 against the Chiefs and 21 against Indy and by all accounts he is a freaking genius.
I generally agree w/ point, but comparing playing a RB vs. a QB who is protected by the refs/rules is ridiculous
Not as ridiculous as suggesting that teams that are out of playoff contention should sit their star players.
I don't understand the purpose of your rejoinder; nowhere do I condone the argument that a healthy ADP should be held out of games. Must be a boring day for you
He was healthy enough to play and it's silly to contend that teams out of playoff contention should bench their star players who play at "violent" positions who are healthy enough to play.
WTF??? Show me where I said that... You must have issues w/ reading comprehension
 
LOL, if he was so healthy why was his snaps so limited in the past 2 games; oh yeah he had a high ankle sprain 5 weeks earlier and rushed back from it.

We're not talking about benching a guy that hadn't missed a game all season and then out of the blue on week 16 the coaching staff just decides to not play him because they are out of the playoffs... we're talking about a guy how had a bad injury and looked like poop for the 2 games before because he was playing injuried. Stop avoiding the evidence.
You really just need to accept that you're wrong.You act like he broke his ankle because it was already sprained and was rushed back.

You act like he had a concussion, was rushed back, and got hit in the head again causing even more damage.

No. His ankle was fine enough to play (otherwise he wouldn't be playing) and he got hit randomly in the KNEE. Ankle =/= knee. An ankle injury 5 weeks ago has no impact whatsoever on a freak hit to the knee. None at all. There is zero correlation between the two and you just need to accept it.

So basically your whole argument is "He wouldn't have gotten injured if he wasn't playing, and my personal opinion from my computer chair is that he shouldn't have been playing because I'm a better judge of his ankle than trainers/himself"

Brilliant sir, brilliant.
Was he playing injuried or at full health? Does the risk of injury go up slightly when your playing injuried?Just wondering

 
Toby Gerhart = 2nd round pick in next years fantasy drafts. Agreed?
I don't see him that high personally. the oline is not that good. peterson has made them look better then they are the last 2 seasons. i can't see gerhart in the top 15. more like around 20-25 range in ppr.
 
Toby Gerhart = 2nd round pick in next years fantasy drafts. Agreed?
I don't see him that high personally. the oline is not that good. peterson has made them look better then they are the last 2 seasons. i can't see gerhart in the top 15. more like around 20-25 range in ppr.
You do realize that of the six draft slots you contend he's likely to be drafted in, five are in the second round of 12 team drafts. The last one you mention, 25th, is the 1st pick of the third round. Methinks you agree with the previous poster.
 
Was he playing injuried or at full health? Does the risk of injury go up slightly when your playing injuried?Just wondering
You saw the hit, right? Serious question, do you believe that he would have survived that hit with no injury if his ankle were 110% healthy? Do you believe that any current player in the NFL, regardless of how healthy they were, would have just walked off that helmet to the side of the knee?He didn't get hit where he did because of his ankle, and even a bionic ankle wouldn't have saved his knee from that hit. It was a flukey hit that happens and would have been just as catastrophic to anyone that it happened to, regardless of health.
 
Toby Gerhart = 2nd round pick in next years fantasy drafts. Agreed?
I don't see him that high personally. the oline is not that good. peterson has made them look better then they are the last 2 seasons. i can't see gerhart in the top 15. more like around 20-25 range in ppr.
You do realize that of the six draft slots you contend he's likely to be drafted in, five are in the second round of 12 team drafts. The last one you mention, 25th, is the 1st pick of the third round. Methinks you agree with the previous poster.
in a RB heavy draft yes. but in ppr leagues i expect to see gronk/graham and a quite a few top tier wrs going in the top 2 with a few qbs as well. especially any league that has 1.5 to TEs.
 
I have not been impressed with gerhart at all this year. So the real question is when can AP come back. I would only take him if it was good value. I wouldnt risk a rd 1-4 pick with a mediocre back who will be benched when ap comes back.

So say u get gerhart rd 4 what rd do u pick peterson. Unless its a later rd there is no value unless peterson misses many games next year.

 
I wonder if Frazier is taking any heat in Vikes territory for his decision to play AP.

I hate to say it but I think this will just lend more credence to the committee approach with other teams; some will just take this as a nod to get longer and better use from star RBs by saving them and not wearing them down in their careers.

 
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I have not been impressed with gerhart at all this year. So the real question is when can AP come back. I would only take him if it was good value. I wouldnt risk a rd 1-4 pick with a mediocre back who will be benched when ap comes back.

So say u get gerhart rd 4 what rd do u pick peterson. Unless its a later rd there is no value unless peterson misses many games next year.
I'm curious as to the bolded... From what I've seen of Gerhart, he obviously isn't flashy nor is he the homerun threat that AP is, but he runs hard, consistently breaks arm tackles, and always falls forward for a couple extra yards. He's not the type to consistently break off 20+ yard runs, but he did rack up a lot of 6-10 yard runs where he consistently got yards after first contact. He averaged 4.9 YPC behind the same line that AP ran behind while averaging 4.7 YPC. He also was a consistent threat in the passing game, and efficient too, catching 22 of 26 targets for 187 yards and 3 TD's. I think if he goes into next season as the 3 down RB, and I see no reason he won't assuming AP is out, he'll be a very solid RB2 at worst, possibly a low end RB1.
 
I have not been impressed with gerhart at all this year. So the real question is when can AP come back. I would only take him if it was good value. I wouldnt risk a rd 1-4 pick with a mediocre back who will be benched when ap comes back.

So say u get gerhart rd 4 what rd do u pick peterson. Unless its a later rd there is no value unless peterson misses many games next year.
I'm curious as to the bolded... From what I've seen of Gerhart, he obviously isn't flashy nor is he the homerun threat that AP is, but he runs hard, consistently breaks arm tackles, and always falls forward for a couple extra yards. He's not the type to consistently break off 20+ yard runs, but he did rack up a lot of 6-10 yard runs where he consistently got yards after first contact. He averaged 4.9 YPC behind the same line that AP ran behind while averaging 4.7 YPC. He also was a consistent threat in the passing game, and efficient too, catching 22 of 26 targets for 187 yards and 3 TD's. I think if he goes into next season as the 3 down RB, and I see no reason he won't assuming AP is out, he'll be a very solid RB2 at worst, possibly a low end RB1.
Just curious, but did you actually watch Any Viking games for that evaluation or is that just from box scores.
 
I have not been impressed with gerhart at all this year. So the real question is when can AP come back. I would only take him if it was good value. I wouldnt risk a rd 1-4 pick with a mediocre back who will be benched when ap comes back.

So say u get gerhart rd 4 what rd do u pick peterson. Unless its a later rd there is no value unless peterson misses many games next year.
I'm curious as to the bolded... From what I've seen of Gerhart, he obviously isn't flashy nor is he the homerun threat that AP is, but he runs hard, consistently breaks arm tackles, and always falls forward for a couple extra yards. He's not the type to consistently break off 20+ yard runs, but he did rack up a lot of 6-10 yard runs where he consistently got yards after first contact. He averaged 4.9 YPC behind the same line that AP ran behind while averaging 4.7 YPC. He also was a consistent threat in the passing game, and efficient too, catching 22 of 26 targets for 187 yards and 3 TD's. I think if he goes into next season as the 3 down RB, and I see no reason he won't assuming AP is out, he'll be a very solid RB2 at worst, possibly a low end RB1.
Just curious, but did you actually watch Any Viking games for that evaluation or is that just from box scores.
I watched the Broncos, Lions, and most of the Skins game--I missed the Falcons game. He looked good to me. :shrug:
 
'thatguy said:
'NBusiness said:
I have not been impressed with gerhart at all this year. So the real question is when can AP come back. I would only take him if it was good value. I wouldnt risk a rd 1-4 pick with a mediocre back who will be benched when ap comes back.

So say u get gerhart rd 4 what rd do u pick peterson. Unless its a later rd there is no value unless peterson misses many games next year.
I'm curious as to the bolded... From what I've seen of Gerhart, he obviously isn't flashy nor is he the homerun threat that AP is, but he runs hard, consistently breaks arm tackles, and always falls forward for a couple extra yards. He's not the type to consistently break off 20+ yard runs, but he did rack up a lot of 6-10 yard runs where he consistently got yards after first contact. He averaged 4.9 YPC behind the same line that AP ran behind while averaging 4.7 YPC. He also was a consistent threat in the passing game, and efficient too, catching 22 of 26 targets for 187 yards and 3 TD's. I think if he goes into next season as the 3 down RB, and I see no reason he won't assuming AP is out, he'll be a very solid RB2 at worst, possibly a low end RB1.
Just curious, but did you actually watch Any Viking games for that evaluation or is that just from box scores.
I watched the Broncos, Lions, and most of the Skins game--I missed the Falcons game. He looked good to me. :shrug:
I think the biggest reason most people are not "impressed" with Gerhart is because he is not a flashy runner. He is a 4 yds in a cloud of dust runner with an occasional 15 yd burst. He has looked better this year than he did last year and I think he will do ok in relief. The biggest problem is that I don't think the Vikings will not be able to rely on the run game as much with AD out.
 
'thatguy said:
'NBusiness said:
I have not been impressed with gerhart at all this year. So the real question is when can AP come back. I would only take him if it was good value. I wouldnt risk a rd 1-4 pick with a mediocre back who will be benched when ap comes back.

So say u get gerhart rd 4 what rd do u pick peterson. Unless its a later rd there is no value unless peterson misses many games next year.
I'm curious as to the bolded... From what I've seen of Gerhart, he obviously isn't flashy nor is he the homerun threat that AP is, but he runs hard, consistently breaks arm tackles, and always falls forward for a couple extra yards. He's not the type to consistently break off 20+ yard runs, but he did rack up a lot of 6-10 yard runs where he consistently got yards after first contact. He averaged 4.9 YPC behind the same line that AP ran behind while averaging 4.7 YPC. He also was a consistent threat in the passing game, and efficient too, catching 22 of 26 targets for 187 yards and 3 TD's. I think if he goes into next season as the 3 down RB, and I see no reason he won't assuming AP is out, he'll be a very solid RB2 at worst, possibly a low end RB1.
Just curious, but did you actually watch Any Viking games for that evaluation or is that just from box scores.
I watched the Broncos, Lions, and most of the Skins game--I missed the Falcons game. He looked good to me. :shrug:
I think the biggest reason most people are not "impressed" with Gerhart is because he is not a flashy runner. He is a 4 yds in a cloud of dust runner with an occasional 15 yd burst. He has looked better this year than he did last year and I think he will do ok in relief. The biggest problem is that I don't think the Vikings will not be able to rely on the run game as much with AD out.
what im really getting at is that i dont know if they will hold good value, it all depends on how many games ap misses next year. if its only like 1-4 games i think ap would be a that guy who can give you that edge if you can win a few ff games without him. imho gerhart will be a great flex guy but what rd do you get him. i personally wouldnt risk taking both gerhart&ap in rds 2-4 in redraft.
 
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I think the biggest reason most people are not "impressed" with Gerhart is because he is not a flashy runner. He is a 4 yds in a cloud of dust runner with an occasional 15 yd burst. He has looked better this year than he did last year and I think he will do ok in relief. The biggest problem is that I don't think the Vikings will not be able to rely on the run game as much with AD out.
Wasn't Gerhart like a 4.5 40-yard dash guy? He's not exactly a plodder. I think he'll continue to put up solid numbers as a starter. His inclusion in the pass game really helps him out from a consistency standpoint. If AP starts on the PUP next year, Gerhart is worth a serious look.
 
Keep in mind Gerhart only has 94 carries on the year, his YPC is bloated from last weeks 109 yards on 11 rushes. Before then his YPC was 4.27. He needs good running lanes. He has great quickness in tight spaces (kind of like Tebow) which enables him to be effective when the blocking is there. When the hole isn't there, he just doesn't have the natural ability reverse field or turn the corner. I think he could be a good grinder and his pass catching ability limits his downside in fantasy but temper your expectations for next season. Unless the Vikes upgrade their line I don't expect him to be very efficient next season.

 
gerhart will be easily fantasy viable if he gets 20 touches a game. you can say this about 50 other rbs as well. an option would be to just draft peterson and gerhart and lock in decent production with elite upside if ap returns to form. that could be pricey.

 
I own Gerhart in a couple of leagues.

One is a cap league where he is still minimum salary.

Do you think I can get a first for him ?

 
Totally wrong for him to be on the field... this isn't some 3rd round talent, this is the face of your franchise; a 100 million dollar running back playing hurt and playing the most volient position in the game. He looked like crap the other 2 games and he was at a higher risk of injury playing with a high ankle sprain. Heads are going to be lopped off for this and the HC should be the 1st. The owner should also put a pistal to his mouth because he had to sign off on having that kid out there as well. Peterson is a stud horse and stud horses want to race no matter how hurt they are, you don't leave that decision to them.

The good news is that his career isn't, just shorted... but 2012 is ruined.
Stop talking non-sense. It was an injury that can happen at anytime in the NFL. Peterson is a competator and wanted to play. He was disappointed in only getting 10 carries the week prior. Frazier might lose his job because of his win loss record but he definitely won't lose it for something he can't control. Belichick routinely leaves Brady in the game when they are up by 31 against the Chiefs and 21 against Indy and by all accounts he is a freaking genius.
I generally agree w/ point, but comparing playing a RB vs. a QB who is protected by the refs/rules is ridiculous
Not as ridiculous as suggesting that teams that are out of playoff contention should sit their star players.
I don't understand the purpose of your rejoinder; nowhere do I condone the argument that a healthy ADP should be held out of games. Must be a boring day for you
He was healthy enough to play and it's silly to contend that teams out of playoff contention should bench their star players who play at "violent" positions who are healthy enough to play.
He wasn't 100% healthy though. The Vikes have an adequate backup and there was no reason to take a chance of this happening. I expected him to play since that's what guys do if they are healthy enough to play but I think it's a bad decision. Obviously the hit would have caused the injury to anyone, but if he was 100% maybe he is a hair quicker and avoids it.
 
He wasn't 100% healthy though. The Vikes have an adequate backup and there was no reason to take a chance of this happening. I expected him to play since that's what guys do if they are healthy enough to play but I think it's a bad decision. Obviously the hit would have caused the injury to anyone, but if he was 100% maybe he is a hair quicker and avoids it.
and on a different play he may be a hair quicker and that causes him to run into a similar injury. also, if he was much slower and more injured, he would have been slow enough to avoid injury on this particular play. results oriented thinking is fun.
 
He wasn't 100% healthy though. The Vikes have an adequate backup and there was no reason to take a chance of this happening. I expected him to play since that's what guys do if they are healthy enough to play but I think it's a bad decision. Obviously the hit would have caused the injury to anyone, but if he was 100% maybe he is a hair quicker and avoids it.
and on a different play he may be a hair quicker and that causes him to run into a similar injury. also, if he was much slower and more injured, he would have been slow enough to avoid injury on this particular play. results oriented thinking is fun.
You're right but the Vikes stood to gain nothing by playing AP before he was 100%. If it's earlier in the season, sure go ahead and play him. But the last 3 weeks when he's admittedly only 80%, :no: .
 
You're right but the Vikes stood to gain nothing by playing AP before he was 100%. If it's earlier in the season, sure go ahead and play him. But the last 3 weeks when he's admittedly only 80%, :no: .
When he was injured, given the position they were in (out of playoff contention), they should have put him in IR and shut him down for the season. There's no legitimate reason he should have been out there in a couple of meaningless end of season games.
 
He wasn't 100% healthy though. The Vikes have an adequate backup and there was no reason to take a chance of this happening. I expected him to play since that's what guys do if they are healthy enough to play but I think it's a bad decision. Obviously the hit would have caused the injury to anyone, but if he was 100% maybe he is a hair quicker and avoids it.
and on a different play he may be a hair quicker and that causes him to run into a similar injury. also, if he was much slower and more injured, he would have been slow enough to avoid injury on this particular play. results oriented thinking is fun.
You're right but the Vikes stood to gain nothing by playing AP before he was 100%. If it's earlier in the season, sure go ahead and play him. But the last 3 weeks when he's admittedly only 80%, :no: .
actually he said he was "close to 100%." i realize that wont be enough for those of you looking for blood.
Adrian Peterson confirms that his ankle is "close to 100 percent.""I'm always feeling like 200-plus," Peterson said of Saturday's potential versus the Redskins. "I might end up with 30, but I'm always feeling antsy and ready to roll." He expects to cut and slash better this week than last. Rotoworld ranks Peterson fifth among running backs for Week 16.
i wouldnt really disagree with you guys if you would show an any consistency. tons of players are on the field with "nothing to play for," yet there is never any sort of outrage. imagine how good frank gore would be if they just shut him down as soon as the niners were out of contention the last 6 yrs. how come no one is critical that mccoy and vick are set to play week 17? mjd has been playing all yr, with a degrading bone on bone knee, when his team has no chance. not even gonna go further with the 10s of thousands of examples over the history of the nfl. either you believe all of these players should be shut down, or you are being inconsistent.
 
Does his having surgery already suggest that the MCL tear isn't that bad? I thought it had to heal before they could operate on the ACL, but maybe I'm mistaken.

 

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