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Advice From Guys Who Have Went Thru A Divorce (1 Viewer)

jon_mx said:
I do have considerable business dealings in China, yes. As for the second comment... no way you're going to find any woman this excellent in America. And probably not in Eastern Europe, Japan, and definitely not in Korea. Chinese women, otoh, very open to American men. And, it seems their primary goal in life is to keep their husband happy. That makes for a win-win type situation for many American men.
Desperate people do desperate things. You can't bag a decent, sane western wife, and she couldn't hack eastern life so she latched on any white man that would take her.

Perfect couple. :thumbup:
I think there are decent women in China, Japan, Europe and even here. If Johnnycakes found happiness there, great for him! :shrug:
Then you disagree with what he said above (in bold). Shouldn't be surprising that someone was offended by such a bold claim.

 
***Update Number 1***

Spoke with my spouse and we are still in a holding pattern. She gave me the "I need more time to sort things out" line. Things seem very tense and I fear that as more time passes the likelihood to work things out diminishes. I've started to give some thoughts in regards to what a single life will entail. Not a pretty picture.

 
I think Lutherman jeleous of Jonnycakes because Johnny is tagging a hot young Asian while Lutherman is tagging a 47 year old (who can throw a good punch).

I think Jonny wins this.

 
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***Update Number 1***

Spoke with my spouse and we are still in a holding pattern. She gave me the "I need more time to sort things out" line. Things seem very tense and I fear that as more time passes the likelihood to work things out diminishes. I've started to give some thoughts in regards to what a single life will entail. Not a pretty picture.
Why not a pretty picture? You each have careers, no children, not getting along now. What is going to be the big difference if you guys get divorced or not?

Really not trying to be insensitive at all. I guess I just don't understand.

 
***Update Number 1***

Spoke with my spouse and we are still in a holding pattern. She gave me the "I need more time to sort things out" line. Things seem very tense and I fear that as more time passes the likelihood to work things out diminishes. I've started to give some thoughts in regards to what a single life will entail. Not a pretty picture.
Why not a pretty picture? You each have careers, no children, not getting along now. What is going to be the big difference if you guys get divorced or not?

Really not trying to be insensitive at all. I guess I just don't understand.
He's one of those guys who needs a woman in his life to do the laundry, do the shopping, cook the food, etc. He's incapable of living alone.
 
***Update Number 1***

Spoke with my spouse and we are still in a holding pattern. She gave me the "I need more time to sort things out" line. Things seem very tense and I fear that as more time passes the likelihood to work things out diminishes. I've started to give some thoughts in regards to what a single life will entail. Not a pretty picture.
Why not a pretty picture? You each have careers, no children, not getting along now. What is going to be the big difference if you guys get divorced or not?

Really not trying to be insensitive at all. I guess I just don't understand.
He's one of those guys who needs a woman in his life to do the laundry, do the shopping, cook the food, etc. He's incapable of living alone.
I don't know if that is fair assumption based on what we know.

We need more backstory.

 
***Update Number 1***

Spoke with my spouse and we are still in a holding pattern. She gave me the "I need more time to sort things out" line. Things seem very tense and I fear that as more time passes the likelihood to work things out diminishes. I've started to give some thoughts in regards to what a single life will entail. Not a pretty picture.
Why not a pretty picture? You each have careers, no children, not getting along now. What is going to be the big difference if you guys get divorced or not?

Really not trying to be insensitive at all. I guess I just don't understand.
He's one of those guys who needs a woman in his life to do the laundry, do the shopping, cook the food, etc. He's incapable of living alone.
I don't know if that is fair assumption based on what we know.

We need more backstory.
Or his wife is really hot. :useless:

 
You seem pretty lonely, maybe you should get a dog or something. You should probably see a shrink too.

 
I have two dogs.

My wife is hot - very Sandra Bullock

I can do my own laundry, cook, etc. I have been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan so I am capable of living alone.

I don't want a divorce. Love my wife dearly - can't really explain it more than that.

 
I do have considerable business dealings in China, yes. As for the second comment... no way you're going to find any woman this excellent in America. And probably not in Eastern Europe, Japan, and definitely not in Korea. Chinese women, otoh, very open to American men. And, it seems their primary goal in life is to keep their husband happy. That makes for a win-win type situation for many American men.
Desperate people do desperate things. You can't bag a decent, sane western wife, and she couldn't hack eastern life so she latched on any white man that would take her.

Perfect couple. :thumbup:
I think there are decent women in China, Japan, Europe and even here. If Johnnycakes found happiness there, great for him! :shrug:
Then you disagree with what he said above (in bold). Shouldn't be surprising that someone was offended by such a bold claim.
I disagree with what both of them said....what a stupid pissing contest. Just because you like the woman you are with, there is no reason to bag on someone who likes something different.

 
I have two dogs.

My wife is hot - very Sandra Bullock

I can do my own laundry, cook, etc. I have been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan so I am capable of living alone.

I don't want a divorce. Love my wife dearly - can't really explain it more than that.
Let's try this on for size. Love is about giving, not what you get. Yeah, I joke a lot about how much my wife does for me... She does a lot. That how her love for me manifests itself. And I do a lot for her, too. Just don't publish it all here. But it's about giving. And trite as it may sound, if she'll be happier without you, you'll part ways, out of love. So go with the flow.... You want to stay married. Fine. You love her. Then give her what she wants.
 
I have two dogs.

My wife is hot - very Sandra Bullock

I can do my own laundry, cook, etc. I have been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan so I am capable of living alone.

I don't want a divorce. Love my wife dearly - can't really explain it more than that.
Let's try this on for size. Love is about giving, not what you get. Yeah, I joke a lot about how much my wife does for me... She does a lot. That how her love for me manifests itself. And I do a lot for her, too. Just don't publish it all here. But it's about giving. And trite as it may sound, if she'll be happier without you, you'll part ways, out of love. So go with the flow.... You want to stay married. Fine. You love her. Then give her what she wants.
Don't worry, I've read all about you on friedricegals.com.

 
I have two dogs.

My wife is hot - very Sandra Bullock

I can do my own laundry, cook, etc. I have been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan so I am capable of living alone.

I don't want a divorce. Love my wife dearly - can't really explain it more than that.
Let's try this on for size. Love is about giving, not what you get. Yeah, I joke a lot about how much my wife does for me... She does a lot. That how her love for me manifests itself. And I do a lot for her, too. Just don't publish it all here. But it's about giving. And trite as it may sound, if she'll be happier without you, you'll part ways, out of love. So go with the flow.... You want to stay married. Fine. You love her. Then give her what she wants.
Your wife sounds pretty great. Where did you guys meet?

 
I have two dogs.

My wife is hot - very Sandra Bullock

I can do my own laundry, cook, etc. I have been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan so I am capable of living alone.

I don't want a divorce. Love my wife dearly - can't really explain it more than that.
It sounds like she is the one who wants it. I don't think there is anything you can really do here to change her mind. Your best bet is to probably stop hoping to salvage it just accept it. Maybe she will have a change of heart after you all are apart for a while. Good luck.

ps Does she have someone chirping in her ear telling her to leave you? Friends, family? I had a buddy that went through a similar thing. She made more money, been together +20 years, and he said he thought his mother in law was the catalyst.

 
caglassc said:
I have two dogs.

My wife is hot - very Sandra Bullock

I can do my own laundry, cook, etc. I have been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan so I am capable of living alone.

I don't want a divorce. Love my wife dearly - can't really explain it more than that.
Sucks. I'd be devastated if my wife didn't want to be married any more. Assuming you've done everything you can to change her mind, It looks like there's not a whole lot left to do but wait her out. Assume the next year will suck, but try to take some solace in that fact that It Will get better over time. Not better in that you'll be living some banging new lifestyle with tons of chicks, free time etc, maybe you will, but if you're like me, you'll be happy if that part of your heart that belongs to your wife starts to hurt less and less over time. I really wish you good luck.

 
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I think Lutherman jeleous of Jonnycakes because Johnny is tagging a hot young Asian while Lutherman is tagging a 47 year old (who can throw a good punch).

I think Jonny wins this.
Not jealous. Just tired of the "marry a weak and dependent third world chick and all your relationship worries go away" that johnny boy posts.

For him to offer advice on western women is absurd, given his history. He can't handle western women...or at least the crazy chicks he attracted.

 
I think Lutherman jeleous of Jonnycakes because Johnny is tagging a hot young Asian while Lutherman is tagging a 47 year old (who can throw a good punch).

I think Jonny wins this.
Not jealous. Just tired of the "marry a weak and dependent third world chick and all your relationship worries go away" that johnny boy posts.

For him to offer advice on western women is absurd, given his history. He can't handle western women...or at least the crazy chicks he attracted.
Great posting.

 
***Update Number 3***

After months of emotional calls, texts and occasional face to face meetings last weekend finally culminated in the "end". Wife tells me to let her go - that the only way to resolve things is to go our separate ways and live our own lives. She has a lot of resentment built up towards me over decisions I have made (not cheating) but going overseas and my choices of jobs. She is deciding on a legal separation or divorce. We are for the most part remaining civil but have had moments of angst and outbursts.

It is emotionally exhausting. I've known people who have gone thru divorce and never fully understood the devastation that it entails. I will never again cavalierly look at someone who is suffering thru this process. It more than sucks. I have moved back home to my parents and trying to decide my future plans. I need to find a new career and a new place to live. There is hope remaining that in the end my wife and I will get thru the other side and remain together. For now, that isn't my focus.

​Perspective is very difficult to come by at this point. Every situation is different and I can't explain adequately the series of emotions I have and continue to go thru. Couple that with the Holiday time and it makes me manic at times. All I know is that I am going to take this time to feel sorry for myself and then devote my time and effort to better myself as a person. So, (for the Pool's entertainment) I ask for continued advice and the separation and ways to improve myself as a person.



 
You obviously don't feel this way now, but I'm telling you, being single is fun.

The nagging... oh the nagging. It's gone. Forever. I haven't so much as raised my voice in the year I've been single.

Oh, and I didn't step foot in a store this year to buy Christmas presents. Awesome.

 
So, (for the Pool's entertainment) I ask for continued advice and the separation and ways to improve myself as a person.
Stop believing that you and your wife will remain together. You're not. Ever.
Yup. Sucks to come to grips with it but you must. Sorry man.

Join a coed flag football team or volleyball or soccer. You need activities with others that will regularly get you put of the house and with others.

Watch the booze. It'll get ya. It is a depressant.

If you can swing it, go on a small vacation and treat yourself. Get away from the same environment.

Volunteer for worthy cause. There are people out there who have it worse than you. Help them while making yourself feel better.

Sorry again.

 
So, (for the Pool's entertainment) I ask for continued advice and the separation and ways to improve myself as a person.
Stop believing that you and your wife will remain together. You're not. Ever.
Yup. Sucks to come to grips with it but you must. Sorry man.Join a coed flag football team or volleyball or soccer. You need activities with others that will regularly get you put of the house and with others.

Watch the booze. It'll get ya. It is a depressant.

If you can swing it, go on a small vacation and treat yourself. Get away from the same environment.

Volunteer for worthy cause. There are people out there who have it worse than you. Help them while making yourself feel better.

Sorry again.
:oldunsure: GBGM, it's not that type or depressant. The classification refers to the fact that it suppresses the central nervous system, thus depressing (slowing down) speech and movements. There are other effects (increased release of dopamine) that can potentially lead to feelings of depression after the fact, but there are conflicting studies supporting both sides of this argument.

But otherwise solid advice as usual. Not that I'm saying go out and get plastered, just don't think it has to be avoided in social situations to help him create a new friend network

 
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So, (for the Pool's entertainment) I ask for continued advice and the separation and ways to improve myself as a person.
Stop believing that you and your wife will remain together. You're not. Ever.
Yup. Sucks to come to grips with it but you must. Sorry man.Join a coed flag football team or volleyball or soccer. You need activities with others that will regularly get you put of the house and with others.

Watch the booze. It'll get ya. It is a depressant.

If you can swing it, go on a small vacation and treat yourself. Get away from the same environment.

Volunteer for worthy cause. There are people out there who have it worse than you. Help them while making yourself feel better.

Sorry again.
:oldunsure: GBGM, it's not that type or depressant. The classification refers to the fact that it suppresses the central nervous system, thus depressing (slowing down) speech and movements. There are other effects (increased release of dopamine) that can potentially lead to feelings of depression after the fact, but there are conflicting studies supporting both sides of this argument.

But otherwise solid advice as usual. Not that I'm saying go out and get plastered, just don't think it has to be avoided in social situations to help him create a new friend network
My advice to him is not to drink himself silly. The mornings after can be brutal when you're going through divorce. Social drinking is great. Drinking to drown your troubles when you're going through a life altering event can have very negative effects for some people. I was one of those people.

But yeah, I mean...go out, have a good time. Go meet new people. Go get some strange. But just be careful when you are at your darkest moments with it is all I'm saying.

I'd also highly recommend greenies!

 
I realize everyone is different so perhaps this wouldn't work for you but if it was me I think I would give myself a weekend in the nearest city and $1000 for a couple high priced hookers. You can either dial them up online or just hit the bar at the most upscale hotel in your city. Perhaps one night of each for variety. Then go do the stuff GM suggested but at least this way your last sexual experiences will be with two hot pieces of strange instead of your wife. Get yourself in shape and then go chase the strange. Trust me, you will pay for them too but it will be in much more subtle ways. Strangely, our society looks down at the more honest way to pay for sex.

 
So, (for the Pool's entertainment) I ask for continued advice and the separation and ways to improve myself as a person.
Stop believing that you and your wife will remain together. You're not. Ever.
Yup. Sucks to come to grips with it but you must. Sorry man.Join a coed flag football team or volleyball or soccer. You need activities with others that will regularly get you put of the house and with others.

Watch the booze. It'll get ya. It is a depressant.

If you can swing it, go on a small vacation and treat yourself. Get away from the same environment.

Volunteer for worthy cause. There are people out there who have it worse than you. Help them while making yourself feel better.

Sorry again.
:oldunsure: GBGM, it's not that type or depressant. The classification refers to the fact that it suppresses the central nervous system, thus depressing (slowing down) speech and movements. There are other effects (increased release of dopamine) that can potentially lead to feelings of depression after the fact, but there are conflicting studies supporting both sides of this argument.

But otherwise solid advice as usual. Not that I'm saying go out and get plastered, just don't think it has to be avoided in social situations to help him create a new friend network
My advice to him is not to drink himself silly. The mornings after can be brutal when you're going through divorce. Social drinking is great. Drinking to drown your troubles when you're going through a life altering event can have very negative effects for some people. I was one of those people.

But yeah, I mean...go out, have a good time. Go meet new people. Go get some strange. But just be careful when you are at your darkest moments with it is all I'm saying.

I'd also highly recommend greenies!
:goodposting:

 
***Update Number 3***

After months of emotional calls, texts and occasional face to face meetings last weekend finally culminated in the "end". Wife tells me to let her go - that the only way to resolve things is to go our separate ways and live our own lives. She has a lot of resentment built up towards me over decisions I have made (not cheating) but going overseas and my choices of jobs. She is deciding on a legal separation or divorce. We are for the most part remaining civil but have had moments of angst and outbursts.

It is emotionally exhausting. I've known people who have gone thru divorce and never fully understood the devastation that it entails. I will never again cavalierly look at someone who is suffering thru this process. It more than sucks. I have moved back home to my parents and trying to decide my future plans. I need to find a new career and a new place to live. There is hope remaining that in the end my wife and I will get thru the other side and remain together. For now, that isn't my focus.

​Perspective is very difficult to come by at this point. Every situation is different and I can't explain adequately the series of emotions I have and continue to go thru. Couple that with the Holiday time and it makes me manic at times. All I know is that I am going to take this time to feel sorry for myself and then devote my time and effort to better myself as a person. So, (for the Pool's entertainment) I ask for continued advice and the separation and ways to improve myself as a person.

Man, that's tough to read. You'll be fine, but you need to prepare yourself for the fact that it's over.

 
***Update Number 3***

After months of emotional calls, texts and occasional face to face meetings last weekend finally culminated in the "end". Wife tells me to let her go - that the only way to resolve things is to go our separate ways and live our own lives. She has a lot of resentment built up towards me over decisions I have made (not cheating) but going overseas and my choices of jobs. She is deciding on a legal separation or divorce. We are for the most part remaining civil but have had moments of angst and outbursts.

It is emotionally exhausting. I've known people who have gone thru divorce and never fully understood the devastation that it entails. I will never again cavalierly look at someone who is suffering thru this process. It more than sucks. I have moved back home to my parents and trying to decide my future plans. I need to find a new career and a new place to live. There is hope remaining that in the end my wife and I will get thru the other side and remain together. For now, that isn't my focus.

​Perspective is very difficult to come by at this point. Every situation is different and I can't explain adequately the series of emotions I have and continue to go thru. Couple that with the Holiday time and it makes me manic at times. All I know is that I am going to take this time to feel sorry for myself and then devote my time and effort to better myself as a person. So, (for the Pool's entertainment) I ask for continued advice and the separation and ways to improve myself as a person.

I haven't read everything, but you're getting good advice. Plenty of us have gone through the same thing, and believe it or not it can be worse, far worse, than what you're experiencing. That's not diminishing at all the impact because I know your head's spinning right now.

Just remember that it will get better if you let it. Take care of your diet, exercise and sleep, and just focus on getting grounded and moving along with your career. Don't isolate yourself socially. You'll get through it, and you might even find that it's for the best, not in the trite way but genuinely.

 
Military? I think she's going to get 1/2 your pension and there is no avoid that.

Best to get a lawyer at this point. GL

 
Wow - sorry to hear it didn't work out. 24 years is a long time to then end things - how did you manage to make it so many years and then decide it's over? Are you sure she's not cheating on you?

 

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