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Ahmad Bradshaw Out Indefinitely (1 Viewer)

Ware just took over RB pickups of the day in Yahoo leagues at 23,000. Michael Bush at 22,000. Jacobs at 19,000. Scott is far below at 680 pickups. But Bush and Jacobs were obviously owned more than Ware.

This data is just showing what most people are thinking, is that Ware is the pickup.
Or that most people are sheep :shrug:
Or that Jacobs was probably on more rosters already than Ware, thus less adds.

 
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I'm no doc but I think that's a 3-month recovery, so my guess is yeah. RT @moham621: if he has surgery, would he be out for season? #nyg

Mike Garafolo

Coughlin says no decision made yet on Bradshaw in regard to surgery. Says he's played with stress fractures in the past.

Mike Garafolo

Coughlin asked if Bradshaw will go see foot specialist Robert Anderson in NC. "I would imagine," he said

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He'll see the specialist, if it's only a stress fracture he'll play and in the past he's been able to do so effectively.

Might be time to buy low.

 
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This is turning into a mess. Three different conflicting sources.

1. Bradshaw out indefinitely

2. Bradshaw says out only two weeks

3. Schefter reports he hears Bradshaw's injury is not serious and he should play this week
The first two aren't in conflict. Indefinitely just means they don't know how long, could be anywhere from one or two weeks to the entire season.
 
The Firth DownNY TimesNovember 3, 2011, 1:21 PMGiants’ Rushing Woes Deepen with Bradshaw’s Broken FootBy SAM BORDENEAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – The Giants’ running game has been a concern all season, and on Thursday the cause for worry only grew. Starting back Ahmad Bradshaw has a cracked bone in his foot, according to a person briefed on the injury, and his playing status for the future is uncertain.Bradshaw, a fifth-year veteran, left last Sunday’s game against Miami to have X-rays on his foot but returned after it was determined that the pain he felt was not because of a structural issue. Bradshaw previously had screws surgically implanted in his foot to help with an old fracture, and he said after the game that he was only feeling irritation around the screw.Further tests, however, showed a fracture, and now the Giants are faced with the possibility of being without Bradshaw as they begin the most difficult part of their schedule Sunday in New England. Brandon Jacobs would step in as the starter if Bradshaw is out, but he rushed for just 10 yards on four carries against the Dolphins and missed the previous two games with a knee injury. D.J. Ware and Da’Rel Scott would also be under consideration for carries if Bradshaw does not play.Bradshaw could also decide to play through the injury, as he did in 2009. Despite a stress fracture, Bradshaw played in eight of the Giants’ final nine games that season, recording 323 yards on 83 carries. Bradshaw is still mulling his options, according to the person briefed on the injury, and has not made a decision regarding whether to play with the injury, rest it or undergo surgery.
 
For those keeping track of my first 5 picks this year in my redraft league...Round 1 - Darren McFaddenRound 2 - Andre JohnsonRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny BrittIt's been one of those years.
Well let me one-up you on my first five picks:Round 1 - Jamaal Charles Round 2 - Darren McFaddenRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny Britt
I know - nobody cares but I had to share in the miseryRound 1 - Jamaal CharlesRound 2 - Chris JohnsonRound 3 - Andre JohnsonRound 6 - Kenny Britt
This post is schtick, no?
Or a 6-person league.
 
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Sigmund Bloom@SigmundBloom Sigmund Bloomscott>ware imo ware may have first opp after jacobs, but scott >er talent RT @LottsFinger so who is the NYG rb to pick up? Ware or Scott?3 minutes ago via web Favorite Retweet Reply
A lot of debate already on Ware v Scott. The Ware camp points to his total number of touches as being his upside, the Scott camp points to his superior talent. I heard one homer opinion mention Scott's lack of pass pro skills as the reason he won't get near Ware's touches. I picked up Ware, but my opinion isn't set on this debate. :popcorn:
 
Damn, Damn Damn. I dropped Helu and Hunter in 2 different leagues to pick up Ward to beat out my leaguemates!
If those were your choices, I still think you are fine. neither of those guys are sniffing carries anyway.
You're probably right, but if you look at Gore's workload over the last 5 games, it is insane. I would imagine theywould want to keep him fresh for the playoffs and work in Hunter more and more.
 
Was it 2 or 3 years ago that Bradshaw had something very similar> Sounded terrible, painful, and yet he still played. This was when he was still backing up Jacobs, and it was definitely limiting him, but he played.

Anyone remember this?

Sounds similar if that's right and this is the same thing.

 
Ahmad Bradshaw could still play this weekPosted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 3, 2011, 2:48 PM EDT ReutersReports surfaced Thursday that Giants running back Ahmad Bradshaw would be out indefinitely with a broken bone in his foot. One paper estimated Bradshaw was hoping to rest the injury for two weeks.PFT has since learned via a league source that Bradshaw still has a chance to play this weekend. In fact, the source believes Bradshaw probably will play.Surgery is not considered an option, and the crack in Bradshaw’s foot is an injury he’s played with before. The Giants may consider asking Brandon Jacobs to drive Bradshaw to Foxborough in his “fast-### car” to avoid any potential injury on the team flight.
 
Ware just took over RB pickups of the day in Yahoo leagues at 23,000. Michael Bush at 22,000. Jacobs at 19,000. Scott is far below at 680 pickups. But Bush and Jacobs were obviously owned more than Ware.

This data is just showing what most people are thinking, is that Ware is the pickup.
Or that most people are sheep :shrug:
Or that Jacobs was probably on more rosters already than Ware, thus less adds.
This is definitely the case. I own Jacobs and would imagine he is owned in all 12 team or greater leagues.
 
Was it 2 or 3 years ago that Bradshaw had something very similar> Sounded terrible, painful, and yet he still played. This was when he was still backing up Jacobs, and it was definitely limiting him, but he played.Anyone remember this?Sounds similar if that's right and this is the same thing.
I owned Ware that year tooI guess that means he'll play...sorry for jinxing it guys
 
Ballard could be a nice spot start here...

while it's nice to try and figure out who will get the bulk of the carries, there is no way to know at this point and the Giants have no reason to tip their hand....

and while you might want to think they want to run the ball to control the clock, etc....easier said then done....they will be without their best RB so running the ball isn't going to be their strength heading into this game....Eli and company will probably come into play way more than people think and they may just have to get into a shoutout and when they do need to dial it back a few notches, you could see Eli using the TE as kind of a substitute for no running game....NE struggles against the pass....Eli could throw it 50 times here....contrl it like Ben did...

might be a week to just sit back and see what unfolds avoiding the NYG running game altogether (after Jacobs) (because personally I could see Jacobs having a decent game)....

desperate at TE or even not so desperate=Ballard

 
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/11/giants_unsure_of_timetable_for.html

Ahmad Bradshaw's status for Sunday's game remains up in the air at this point as the Giants continue to determine whether he can play on a stress fracture in his foot.

The fifth-year running back was telling teammates he expected to sit for about two weeks, but ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on Twitter Bradshaw's injury is "not serious" and that he should be able to play on Sunday.

Giants coach Tom Coughlin made it seem a definitive timetable has not yet been determined.

"I really don't know any more than what you've been told," coach Tom Coughlin said after practice today. "In the past, he's played with a crack or whatever you want to call it - stress crack - in his foot. He's played that way in the past. I don't know what the determination will be just yet. We'll just have to wait and see."

Asked if Bradshaw would visit noted foot and ankle specialist Robert Anderson in North Carolina, as he's done in the past, Coughlin replied, "I would imagine."

A Giants spokesman, however, said that is not yet the case and that Anderson could be consulted without Bradshaw making a visit.

The Wall Street Journal's Aditi Kinkhabwala tweeted she saw Bradshaw wheeling his way through the parking lot with his right leg up on a scooter. It's a device the Giants give players with lower-leg issues so they don't put any pressure on their injuries.

 
Okay. If Bradshaw plays and he's out there, would you feel comfortable starting him with a crack in his foot?

I wouldn't either.

 
As someone who is playing against a Bradshaw owner who had to grab Ware, I think I would be happier with Bradshaw playing. I can't are him being too productive out there.

 
How long do most players with a cracked bone in their foot sit out?Bradshaw worth dumping?
This is very bad news imo.This is the same foot with screws holding the foot in place already.Bradshaw ran with a break in his foot before.But his recovery time depends on what they are going to do with the break - can it heal itself, does it need more reinforcement, can he run without causing further complications? Reports are several weeks currently.
I believe the screws are removed when the bones heal.
No - the reason the screws are there is to help relieve the stress on the bone matter.
 
Ware just took over RB pickups of the day in Yahoo leagues at 23,000. Michael Bush at 22,000. Jacobs at 19,000. Scott is far below at 680 pickups. But Bush and Jacobs were obviously owned more than Ware.

This data is just showing what most people are thinking, is that Ware is the pickup.
Or that most people are sheep :shrug:
Or that Jacobs was probably on more rosters already than Ware, thus less adds.
This is definitely the case. I own Jacobs and would imagine he is owned in all 12 team or greater leagues.
:goodposting:
Ware just took over RB pickups of the day in Yahoo leagues at 23,000. Michael Bush at 22,000. Jacobs at 19,000. Scott is far below at 680 pickups. But Bush and Jacobs were obviously owned more than Ware.

This data is just showing what most people are thinking, is that Ware is the pickup.
Or that most people are sheep :shrug:
This. And it's a big reason I hate FF.
Seriously? Doesn't that mean you can make the Shark move when everyone else makes the Sheep move. I would love that everyone went the wrong direction
 
As much as Adam Schefter is money, I just can't buy the report that Bradshaw might actually play this week. After having him in dynasty for the past few years, I really have to say he was like a whole new man in 2010 and this year, following seasons with foot injuries and I just can't think the Giants would actually let a guy that they have seen do so much better after finally getting healthy after two years risk this.

So it makes me think that this is one of those deals where they are looking at having to go to New England this week and are just trying to keep things unofficial and give the Pats more to prepare for, but in reality they already know.

Or, on the other side, if they DO somehow let him play, I have to think we see the much less effective version that he was when he was playing with foot issues in previous years. Either way, I do not see it as encouraging for Bradshaw and his owners.

I thin what we will end up seeing is a lot of throwing from the Giants, which hasn't been necessarily great for Eli in the early years when that was all they were doing... seems to make more bad decisions when that was all he was doing.

 
Bradshaw lights it up this week. Bank it...
Bank it like 'DeMarco Murray will stink it up against the Rams'?I wouldn't feel comfortable starting him if I had a better option...if I had both him and Jacobs, I'd probably go Jacobs, and if Ware is available, I'd pick him up and wait and see, but if the Giants RBs didn't go crazy vs. MIA last week, I wouldn't say their chances are better against the Pats (especially if they end up behind early). It's a 4:15 start any way you cut it, so it's a gamble to wait for a GTD if it comes to it.
 
I knew I held onto Brenda Jacobs for a reason!

I'm not even going to get involved in the Ware/Scott stuff. Jacobs will get the GL carries and can be effective if given enough touches. This is his 2011 chance. I'm not sure how a stress fracture in a RB's foot can be too minor.

 
The Giants said Sunday that Bradshaw, seen on the bench without his right shoe, missed time in the second half because a screw from a previous surgery was causing pain in his foot.

The injury first was reported by the Star-Ledger of Newark.

-Associated Press

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/11/giants-to-miss-ahmad-bradshaw.html

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If that's the case then Bradshaw's initial 2 weeks comment sounds right. Having to have a screw removed or adjusted is better than a new fracture.

 
According to the New York Daily News, Ahmad Bradshaw has decided, "at least for now," against surgery to correct a cracked bone in his foot.

Although ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that Bradshaw "should play Sunday," the Daily News' Ralph Vacchiano says Bradshaw's status for the Patriots game is still unknown. Check back Friday afternoon for his official Week 9 status. Brandon Jacobs would be a top-20 fantasy back if Bradshaw sits out.

 
Could the OP please change the thread title.There is no evidence that he is "out indefinitely"
in·def·i·nite (n-df-nt)adj.Not definite, especially:a. Unclear; vague.b. Lacking precise limits: an indefinite leave of absence.c. Uncertain; undecided: indefinite about their plans.
 
| Ahmad Bradshaw hoping to return in a few weeks Thu Nov 3, 01:38 PMUpdating a previous report, New York Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw (foot) has been telling teammates he could miss only two weeks with his foot injury. The timetable would be longer if he needs to undergo surgery on the foot.http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/news.php?team=nyg
Yeah, and Andre Johnson said he would only be out 2 weeks. :rolleyes:
 
I knew I held onto Brenda Jacobs for a reason!I'm not even going to get involved in the Ware/Scott stuff. Jacobs will get the GL carries and can be effective if given enough touches. This is his 2011 chance. I'm not sure how a stress fracture in a RB's foot can be too minor.
bail. he's a bust.(er)
 
Could the OP please change the thread title.There is no evidence that he is "out indefinitely"
in·def·i·nite (n-df-nt)adj.Not definite, especially:a. Unclear; vague.b. Lacking precise limits: an indefinite leave of absence.c. Uncertain; undecided: indefinite about their plans.
let me take a crack at this..."out indefintely" doesn't mean his status is unclear...it means that his status is "out" and that the length of time he will be out is UNCLEAR...as he played last week and has not yet been ruled out officially (though I share the skepticism of others that he won't play and this is merely coughlin playing belichick at his own game) this status of "out indefintely" is most definitely incorrect
 
How long do most players with a cracked bone in their foot sit out?Bradshaw worth dumping?
This is very bad news imo.This is the same foot with screws holding the foot in place already.Bradshaw ran with a break in his foot before.But his recovery time depends on what they are going to do with the break - can it heal itself, does it need more reinforcement, can he run without causing further complications? Reports are several weeks currently.
I believe the screws are removed when the bones heal.
No - the reason the screws are there is to help relieve the stress on the bone matter.
Um, no.Screws are used to keep bones in place during healing. They don't "hold the foot together" after healing and they aren't in there relieve stress on bone. They are essentially useless once the natural anatomy heals to bear the load.
 
According to the New York Daily News, Ahmad Bradshaw has decided, "at least for now," against surgery to correct a cracked bone in his foot.

Although ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that Bradshaw "should play Sunday," the Daily News' Ralph Vacchiano says Bradshaw's status for the Patriots game is still unknown. Check back Friday afternoon for his official Week 9 status. Brandon Jacobs would be a top-20 fantasy back if Bradshaw sits out.Related: Brandon JacobsSource: Ralph Vacchiano on TwitterNov 3 - 7:32 PM

 
According to the New York Daily News, Ahmad Bradshaw has decided, "at least for now," against surgery to correct a cracked bone in his foot.

Although ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that Bradshaw "should play Sunday," the Daily News' Ralph Vacchiano says Bradshaw's status for the Patriots game is still unknown. Check back Friday afternoon for his official Week 9 status. Brandon Jacobs would be a top-20 fantasy back if Bradshaw sits out.Related: Brandon JacobsSource: Ralph Vacchiano on TwitterNov 3 - 7:32 PM

 
Sigmund Bloom@SigmundBloom Sigmund Bloomscott>ware imo ware may have first opp after jacobs, but scott >er talent RT @LottsFinger so who is the NYG rb to pick up? Ware or Scott?3 minutes ago via web Favorite Retweet Reply
A lot of debate already on Ware v Scott. The Ware camp points to his total number of touches as being his upside, the Scott camp points to his superior talent. I heard one homer opinion mention Scott's lack of pass pro skills as the reason he won't get near Ware's touches. I picked up Ware, but my opinion isn't set on this debate. :popcorn:
I'd have to say I prefer Scott in this situation. With Bradshaw out I don't see why the Giants wouldn't try all 3 backs to see who is proving most effective on the day. Jacobs will get the bulk of that opportunity. But I think early in the game you could see a mix of Ware and Scott. Whomever is more successful with their early touches will probably see the majority of work in the 2nd half. That's just my opinion about what I think Coughlin will do.
 
'newteech said:
Could the OP please change the thread title.There is no evidence that he is "out indefinitely"
He missed practice and could play this week or be out for the season -- that's about as indefinite as it gets
 
'cvnpoka said:
'newteech said:
Could the OP please change the thread title.There is no evidence that he is "out indefinitely"
in·def·i·nite (n-df-nt)adj.Not definite, especially:a. Unclear; vague.b. Lacking precise limits: an indefinite leave of absence.c. Uncertain; undecided: indefinite about their plans.
Ha. I'm also pretty sure Bradshaw defines "out indefinitely".
 
'Morton Muffley said:
'cvnpoka said:
'newteech said:
Could the OP please change the thread title.There is no evidence that he is "out indefinitely"
in·def·i·nite (n-df-nt)adj.Not definite, especially:a. Unclear; vague.b. Lacking precise limits: an indefinite leave of absence.c. Uncertain; undecided: indefinite about their plans.
let me take a crack at this..."out indefintely" doesn't mean his status is unclear...it means that his status is "out" and that the length of time he will be out is UNCLEAR...as he played last week and has not yet been ruled out officially (though I share the skepticism of others that he won't play and this is merely coughlin playing belichick at his own game) this status of "out indefintely" is most definitely incorrect
As long as he's not practicing and there's doubt that he plays Sunday, he's out indefinitely.
 
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Giants | Ahmad Bradshaw expected to play Week 9

Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:35:08 -0700

Updating previous reports, New York Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw's (foot) foot injury is not considered serious and should be able to play in Week 9.

Fantasy Tip: This situation should be considered fluid, and if you own Bradshaw, it would be wise to acquire Danny Ware to be safe. For now, be cautiously optimistic about Bradshaw's Week 9 status and make sure to check the pregame inactives.

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Read more: http://www.kffl.com/player/16335/NFL#ixzz1clDjWvvz

 
Thursday at Giants park was essentially an episode of 24, packing an absurd amount of action and hourly intrigue into what should have been a normal afternoon.

Blink, and you missed a new development with Ahmad Bradshaw’s foot. One minute the Giants’ lead back was almost certainly done for the season. The next, he was possibly on track to play in Week 9. In between, he considered surgery before ultimately deciding against it for the time being. If it all seems confusing, it’s because it is. Constructed from Rotoworld blurbs and beat-writer tweets, here’s our best attempt at re-creating the afternoon’s events:

11:00-12:00 EST: “Ahmad Bradshaw has a cracked bone in his foot and is out indefinitely, a source tells the Newark Star-Ledger.”

12:00-1:00 EST: “Ahmad Bradshaw (foot) has been telling teammates he might only be out for two weeks, a source tells the Newark Star-Ledger.”

1:00-2:00 EST: “A ‘person familiar’ with Ahmad Bradshaw (foot) tells ESPN's Adam Schefter Bradshaw's injury is ‘not serious’ and he ‘should play’ Sunday.”

2:00-3:00 EST: “Giants coach Tom Coughlin says Ahmad Bradshaw has not decided if he will undergo surgery on his injured foot, and will likely get a second opinion. Coughlin also pointed out that Bradshaw has played through a similar injury in the past, and it’s possible he will this time, as well. He will not play against the Patriots, however.”

3:00-4:00 EST: “Ahmad Bradshaw has told the New York Daily News’ Ralph Vacchiano it's ‘not out of the question’ he plays against the Patriots.”

(two hour break)

6:00-7:00 EST: “According to the New York Daily News, Ahmad Bradshaw has decided, ‘at least for now,’ against surgery to correct a cracked bone in his foot.”

So after seven hours and nearly as many updates, Bradshaw ended up back where he began his Thursday: doubtful for Week 9, and questionable for beyond.

If Bradshaw is active against the Patriots, it’s likely he’ll be only an emergency back or in line for a minimal amount of touches. Just now making his way back from an injury of his own, Brandon Jacobs will get his long sought chance to again be the man in the Giants backfield, carrying the load on early downs and near the goal-line. Seldom-used D.J. Ware will fill-in on third downs.

As for Bradshaw, he remains someone to hold onto in all formats, but if Thursday’s events have you questioning just what exactly his future holds, you’re not alone.

 
Hipple,

Nice work here updating us on Friday's Bradshaw news. :thumbup:

A lot of these reports are opinion and speculation. The bit of info that matters is he missed Friday's practice. Nicks owners should be alarmed as well.

Usually, and I can't remember an exception to the rule offhand.

No practice = No play.

 
'GManiac said:
Sigmund Bloom@SigmundBloom Sigmund Bloomscott>ware imo ware may have first opp after jacobs, but scott >er talent RT @LottsFinger so who is the NYG rb to pick up? Ware or Scott?3 minutes ago via web Favorite Retweet Reply
A lot of debate already on Ware v Scott. The Ware camp points to his total number of touches as being his upside, the Scott camp points to his superior talent. I heard one homer opinion mention Scott's lack of pass pro skills as the reason he won't get near Ware's touches. I picked up Ware, but my opinion isn't set on this debate. :popcorn:
I'd have to say I prefer Scott in this situation. With Bradshaw out I don't see why the Giants wouldn't try all 3 backs to see who is proving most effective on the day. Jacobs will get the bulk of that opportunity. But I think early in the game you could see a mix of Ware and Scott. Whomever is more successful with their early touches will probably see the majority of work in the 2nd half. That's just my opinion about what I think Coughlin will do.
I like Scott's potential, but I don't see a guy who has gotten 0 carries suddenly getting them split with Ware, who was spelling Bradshaw anywway (and has in the past as well).I'd suspect you're going to see Jacobs and Ware with a little bit of Scott mixed in. I'd be surprised if Scott got more than 5 touches. I could see him being effective and getting more touches in the coming weeks.
 
If Bradshaw is out for a significant amount of time...or for the season...

it should be Jacobs job to win or lose, right?

I would think he gets most of the carries and a shot to succeed.

As for Ware

isn't he mostly a pickup if you think Jacobs won't succeed?

Meaning you'd hold him for a couple of weeks and hope he outplays Jacobs.

As for Scott

isn't he just a pickup if you think both Jacobs and Ware won't succeed?

Meaning you'd have to hold him for who knows how long and even then no telling if he'd be any good.

I just don't understand why people are so high on Ware.

The only guy I'd see worth starting as of now is Jacobs.

If Ware gets the job in a week or two it would probably be by default.

Does anyone agree or disagree with this?

 
If Bradshaw is out for a significant amount of time...or for the season...it should be Jacobs job to win or lose, right? I would think he gets most of the carries and a shot to succeed. As for Wareisn't he mostly a pickup if you think Jacobs won't succeed?Meaning you'd hold him for a couple of weeks and hope he outplays Jacobs.As for Scottisn't he just a pickup if you think both Jacobs and Ware won't succeed?Meaning you'd have to hold him for who knows how long and even then no telling if he'd be any good. I just don't understand why people are so high on Ware.The only guy I'd see worth starting as of now is Jacobs. If Ware gets the job in a week or two it would probably be by default. Does anyone agree or disagree with this?
Agree with a lot of it, but have a few caveats:Jacobs is probably owned in most leagues, which means there is less talk of going to free agency/waivers to go pick him up. If you're in a thinner/smaller league then yeah, I'd go get Jacobs.That being said, I believe Ware is definitely worth a pickup because I don't think Jacobs is a good runner. He's run awful this season in 8.4 carries/game. I also believe the Giants are in trouble and face an incredibly difficult remaining schedule, which will force them to throw. Because they'll want to use Ware in those situations I could see his playing time increasing. Take a look at their remaining schedule:mad:NE, @SF, Phi, @NO, GB, @Dal, Was, @NYJ, @DalSo my opinion about Jacobs + my opinion on NYG being forced to throw more = Ware is a sneaky smart pickup.
 

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