Alabama Sorority Video Controversy (1 Viewer)

[Parrothead]

i'm sure applying for Barbie house membership is high on the bucket list for black girls.. why are we looking for a problem?

 

[TobiasFunke]

Lotta people confusing "ridicule" with "outrage" here. Seems to be an epidemic these days.

Yeah, honestly it does get a bit confusing when NCC acts like this video has set back civil rights.

Eh, I see him saying this video illustrates a problem. That's not the same as saying the video is the problem.

And really, he's the only one even saying that around here. These girls have every right to live with whomever they choose to live with and to put out whatever recruiting video they like. And people have every right to point and laugh at their surreal lack of diversity and the Stepford Wife-ness of it all in 2015. I don't see why any of it- the video or the reaction to it- should really bother anyone.

I'm bothered that you take such a stance.

I'm outraged that my stance bothers you!

 

[Hang 10]

Lotta people confusing "ridicule" with "outrage" here. Seems to be an epidemic these days.

Yeah, honestly it does get a bit confusing when NCC acts like this video has set back civil rights.

Eh, I see him saying this video illustrates a problem. That's not the same as saying the video is the problem.

And really, he's the only one even saying that around here. These girls have every right to live with whomever they choose to live with and to put out whatever recruiting video they like. And people have every right to point and laugh at their surreal lack of diversity and the Stepford Wife-ness of it all in 2015. I don't see why any of it- the video or the reaction to it- should really bother anyone.

If people were only making fun of these vapid bimbos, I'd be right there with them but they were publicly criticized by their university. So yeah, there is definitely people who feel this video is a pretty big problem.

 

[kentric]

Lotta people confusing "ridicule" with "outrage" here. Seems to be an epidemic these days.

Yeah, honestly it does get a bit confusing when NCC acts like this video has set back civil rights.

Eh, I see him saying this video illustrates a problem. That's not the same as saying the video is the problem.

And really, he's the only one even saying that around here. These girls have every right to live with whomever they choose to live with and to put out whatever recruiting video they like. And people have every right to point and laugh at their surreal lack of diversity and the Stepford Wife-ness of it all in 2015. I don't see why any of it- the video or the reaction to it- should really bother anyone.

I'm bothered that you take such a stance.

I'm outraged that my stance bothers you!

You sir need to be more Stepford Wife-ness (without the breasts though).

 

[TobiasFunke]

Lotta people confusing "ridicule" with "outrage" here. Seems to be an epidemic these days.

Yeah, honestly it does get a bit confusing when NCC acts like this video has set back civil rights.

Eh, I see him saying this video illustrates a problem. That's not the same as saying the video is the problem.

And really, he's the only one even saying that around here. These girls have every right to live with whomever they choose to live with and to put out whatever recruiting video they like. And people have every right to point and laugh at their surreal lack of diversity and the Stepford Wife-ness of it all in 2015. I don't see why any of it- the video or the reaction to it- should really bother anyone.

If people were only making fun of these vapid bimbos, I'd be right there with them but they were publicly criticized by their university. So yeah, someone there is definitely people who feel this video is a pretty big problem.

I suspect that was because it makes the university look bad and confirms some existing negative perceptions about the place. Gotta try to save face with some PR about how your school isn't actually like that and blah blah blah.

 

[Quez]

What part of the video is the Halloween party where they are all wearing black face?

 

[kentric]

What part of the video is the Halloween party where they are all wearing black face?

Its at 5:23.

 

[Capella]

Racism in Alabama you say.

Yea weird I hope they don't tell me people in Mississippi are racist next

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Aren't these sororities suppose to demonstrate a component of service to their community or to mankind? I do not see any service component featured in this recruitment video. I would like to offer to help. I am a senior citizen. They could take some time to visit me, to make sure I am not lonely, that I stay engaged in life.

 

[Fennis]

http://img.food.com/img/recipes/18/06/38/large/picdDuNDe.jpg

Whitest thing I ever saw

 

[bigbottom]

Lotta people confusing "ridicule" with "outrage" here. Seems to be an epidemic these days.

I can understand outrage more than ridicule, even though I think outrage over the video is misplaced as well. Outrage could arise from the blatant lack of diversity and what that may indicate about institutional prejudice. Not my reaction at all, but I get it. But ridiculing the video? What is there to ridicule about a bunch of young coeds having fun and being happy?

On another note, the statement from the Alabama university official has me totally shuked.

This video is not reflective of UAs expectations for student organizations to be responsible digital citizens. It is important for student organizations to remember what is posted on social media makes a difference, today and tomorrow, on how they are viewed and perceived.

What on earth does the bolded mean?

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

http://www.mcnayart.org/events/event/get-reel-60th-anniversary-film-series-white-Christmas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR0EOFfIPQE

Whitest things I ever saw.

 

[bigbottom]

Lotta people confusing "ridicule" with "outrage" here. Seems to be an epidemic these days.

Yeah, honestly it does get a bit confusing when NCC acts like this video has set back civil rights.

Eh, I see him saying this video illustrates a problem. That's not the same as saying the video is the problem.

And really, he's the only one even saying that around here. These girls have every right to live with whomever they choose to live with and to put out whatever recruiting video they like. And people have every right to point and laugh at their surreal lack of diversity and the Stepford Wife-ness of it all in 2015. I don't see why any of it- the video or the reaction to it- should really bother anyone.

If people were only making fun of these vapid bimbos, I'd be right there with them but they were publicly criticized by their university. So yeah, someone there is definitely people who feel this video is a pretty big problem.

I suspect that was because it makes the university look bad and confirms some existing negative perceptions about the place. Gotta try to save face with some PR about how your school isn't actually like that and blah blah blah.

It isn't fun and doesn't have social organizations?

 

[Gianni Verscotchie]

Not gonna lie. I wacked it!

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

I've now watched this video several times on a full screen and I think there is plenty of diversity in the video. I saw two girls that could definitely pass for Asian and one that looked like she might have some Latina blood in her. Additionally, I saw two girls that looked like they were size 6 and an additional one that was probably a size 8.

 

[John Bender]

Whitest thing EVER

Maybe this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XaZELrSLCA

While I'm digging around....this seems racist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jabYvgITCxI

 

[Fennis]

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/39/bf/b9/39bfb9b8866ff343d62ce657dcc40095.jpg

 

[Bucky86]

The shot of the girls ### walking up the stairs was unnecessary

No it most certainly was not.

Can we get a gif? For science.

 

[kentric]

Lotta people confusing "ridicule" with "outrage" here. Seems to be an epidemic these days.

I can understand outrage more than ridicule, even though I think outrage over the video is misplaced as well. Outrage could arise from the blatant lack of diversity and what that may indicate about institutional prejudice. Not my reaction at all, but I get it. But ridiculing the video? What is there to ridicule about a bunch of young coeds having fun and being happy?

On another note, the statement from the Alabama university official has me totally shuked.

This video is not reflective of UAs expectations for student organizations to be responsible digital citizens. It is important for student organizations to remember what is posted on social media makes a difference, today and tomorrow, on how they are viewed and perceived.

What on earth does the bolded mean?

Well, based on the digital aspect, I'm pretty sure its got something to do with Proctology.

 

[Brony]

Blessed

 

[John Bender]

Blessed

That moment when you notice the camera man is black

 

[jonessed]

i'm sure applying for Barbie house membership is high on the bucket list for black girls.. why are we looking for a problem?

Some people just like to complain.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Lotta people confusing "ridicule" with "outrage" here. Seems to be an epidemic these days.

Yeah, honestly it does get a bit confusing when NCC acts like this video has set back civil rights.

Eh, I see him saying this video illustrates a problem. That's not the same as saying the video is the problem.

And really, he's the only one even saying that around here. These girls have every right to live with whomever they choose to live with and to put out whatever recruiting video they like. And people have every right to point and laugh at their surreal lack of diversity and the Stepford Wife-ness of it all in 2015. I don't see why any of it- the video or the reaction to it- should really bother anyone.

If people were only making fun of these vapid bimbos, I'd be right there with them but they were publicly criticized by their university. So yeah, someone there is definitely people who feel this video is a pretty big problem.

I suspect that was because it makes the university look bad and confirms some existing negative perceptions about the place. Gotta try to save face with some PR about how your school isn't actually like that and blah blah blah.

It isn't fun and doesn't have social organizations?

It isn't homogenous and its women aren't empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance.

Like I said I personally couldn't care less. I wish more sororities put out videos of their members dancing around and flipping their hair. Hair-flipping and college-age girls are two of my favorite things. But that's how the video comes across and that's bad PR for a university.

 

[sho nuff]

Blessed

During the video there was another angle of her. She did not appear to be that blessed in the chestal region.

 

[Bozo]

4 pages of middle aged whiteys discussing an Alabama Sorority video that is not hard core??

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I really do not get the issue here. Is there a discrimination claim?

I'm no trump, but some of the PC stuff is getting a little out of wack. Is this blonde shaming now? How is that ok with all the fat shaming and slut shaming that isn't allowed in the world now? It's getting ridiculous.

 

[Fennis]

http://fromdadtoworse.voxboxcomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/family-around-radio.jpg

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Blessed

That moment when you notice the camera man is black

She is making a weird face and maybe could lose 4 pounds. #diversity

 

[bigbottom]

Lotta people confusing "ridicule" with "outrage" here. Seems to be an epidemic these days.

Yeah, honestly it does get a bit confusing when NCC acts like this video has set back civil rights.

Eh, I see him saying this video illustrates a problem. That's not the same as saying the video is the problem.

And really, he's the only one even saying that around here. These girls have every right to live with whomever they choose to live with and to put out whatever recruiting video they like. And people have every right to point and laugh at their surreal lack of diversity and the Stepford Wife-ness of it all in 2015. I don't see why any of it- the video or the reaction to it- should really bother anyone.

If people were only making fun of these vapid bimbos, I'd be right there with them but they were publicly criticized by their university. So yeah, someone there is definitely people who feel this video is a pretty big problem.

I suspect that was because it makes the university look bad and confirms some existing negative perceptions about the place. Gotta try to save face with some PR about how your school isn't actually like that and blah blah blah.

It isn't fun and doesn't have social organizations?

It isn't homogenous and its women aren't empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance.

Like I said I personally couldn't care less. I wish more sororities put out videos of their members dancing around and flipping their hair. Hair-flipping and college-age girls are two of my favorite things. But that's how the video comes across and that's bad PR for a university.

Respectfully, that you watch the video and see "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" probably says more about you than it does about these women.

 

[avoiding injuries]

I really do not get the issue here. Is there a discrimination claim?

I'm no trump, but some of the PC stuff is getting a little out of wack. Is this blonde shaming now? How is that ok with all the fat shaming and slut shaming that isn't allowed in the world now? It's getting ridiculous.

This thread needs more diversity. http://youtu.be/hlmLQB-YhUw

 

[Hang 10]

I really do not get the issue here. Is there a discrimination claim?

I'm no trump, but some of the PC stuff is getting a little out of wack. Is this blonde shaming now? How is that ok with all the fat shaming and slut shaming that isn't allowed in the world now? It's getting ridiculous.

Yeah, the pendulum may have swung too far the other way when now white girls are getting reprimanded for being too white.

 

[TobiasFunke]

It isn't homogenous and its women aren't empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance.

Like I said I personally couldn't care less. I wish more sororities put out videos of their members dancing around and flipping their hair. Hair-flipping and college-age girls are two of my favorite things. But that's how the video comes across and that's bad PR for a university.

Respectfully, that you watch the video and see "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" probably says more about you than it does about these women.

That's not a fair interpretation of what I said. There's a big difference between saying that these women are "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" and saying the video portrays them that way. And it clearly does portray them that way- they don't really do anything other than look pretty and flirty. You could put a collection of female Nobel Prize winners in a video doing the same thing and I'd make the same statement.

And I really don't care how they chose to portray themselves. But I can see why a university might have to do go through the motions of saving face after something like that goes viral.

 

[Steve Tasker]

It isn't homogenous and its women aren't empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance.

Like I said I personally couldn't care less. I wish more sororities put out videos of their members dancing around and flipping their hair. Hair-flipping and college-age girls are two of my favorite things. But that's how the video comes across and that's bad PR for a university.

Respectfully, that you watch the video and see "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" probably says more about you than it does about these women.

That's not a fair interpretation of what I said. There's a big difference between saying that these women are "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" and saying the video portrays them that way. And it clearly does portray them that way- they don't really do anything other than look pretty and flirty. You could put a collection of female Nobel Prize winners in a video doing the same thing and I'd make the same statement.

And I really don't care how they chose to portray themselves. But I can see why a university might have to do go through the motions of saving face after something like that goes viral.

Come on now.

 

[Zow]

It isn't homogenous and its women aren't empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance.

Like I said I personally couldn't care less. I wish more sororities put out videos of their members dancing around and flipping their hair. Hair-flipping and college-age girls are two of my favorite things. But that's how the video comes across and that's bad PR for a university.

Respectfully, that you watch the video and see "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" probably says more about you than it does about these women.

That's not a fair interpretation of what I said. There's a big difference between saying that these women are "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" and saying the video portrays them that way. And it clearly does portray them that way- they don't really do anything other than look pretty and flirty. You could put a collection of female Nobel Prize winners in a video doing the same thing and I'd make the same statement.

And I really don't care how they chose to portray themselves. But I can see why a university might have to do go through the motions of saving face after something like that goes viral.

Come on now.

I don't think he's wrong. The video makes Alabama look like, well, how people assume Alabama looks. The University isn't going to want that from a PR perspective.

 

[Zegras11]

It isn't homogenous and its women aren't empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance.

Like I said I personally couldn't care less. I wish more sororities put out videos of their members dancing around and flipping their hair. Hair-flipping and college-age girls are two of my favorite things. But that's how the video comes across and that's bad PR for a university.

Respectfully, that you watch the video and see "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" probably says more about you than it does about these women.

That's not a fair interpretation of what I said. There's a big difference between saying that these women are "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" and saying the video portrays them that way. And it clearly does portray them that way- they don't really do anything other than look pretty and flirty. You could put a collection of female Nobel Prize winners in a video doing the same thing and I'd make the same statement.

And I really don't care how they chose to portray themselves. But I can see why a university might have to do go through the motions of saving face after something like that goes viral.

Come on now.

Seriously. This is PC to taken to the nth degree.

 

[Clifford]

i'm sure applying for Barbie house membership is high on the bucket list for black girls.. why are we looking for a problem?

YEah I don't get it. Great piece of softcore porn. What's the issue. That a bunch of dimwitted sluts prance around hoping for frat ****?

 

[TobiasFunke]

It isn't homogenous and its women aren't empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance.

Like I said I personally couldn't care less. I wish more sororities put out videos of their members dancing around and flipping their hair. Hair-flipping and college-age girls are two of my favorite things. But that's how the video comes across and that's bad PR for a university.

Respectfully, that you watch the video and see "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" probably says more about you than it does about these women.

That's not a fair interpretation of what I said. There's a big difference between saying that these women are "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" and saying the video portrays them that way. And it clearly does portray them that way- they don't really do anything other than look pretty and flirty. You could put a collection of female Nobel Prize winners in a video doing the same thing and I'd make the same statement.

And I really don't care how they chose to portray themselves. But I can see why a university might have to do go through the motions of saving face after something like that goes viral.

Come on now.

The only reason I'm somehow engaged in this nonsense is that someone asked me about the university condemning it and I said it was probably a PR move because it's a bad look for the university because it portrays a homogenous sorority and says very little about its members beyond flaunting their appearance. I have no idea how that's remotely controversial or debatable. It obviously does that.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

anyone know why the music was changed in the video?

 

[Clifford]

It isn't homogenous and its women aren't empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance.

Like I said I personally couldn't care less. I wish more sororities put out videos of their members dancing around and flipping their hair. Hair-flipping and college-age girls are two of my favorite things. But that's how the video comes across and that's bad PR for a university.

Respectfully, that you watch the video and see "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" probably says more about you than it does about these women.

That's not a fair interpretation of what I said. There's a big difference between saying that these women are "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" and saying the video portrays them that way. And it clearly does portray them that way- they don't really do anything other than look pretty and flirty. You could put a collection of female Nobel Prize winners in a video doing the same thing and I'd make the same statement.

And I really don't care how they chose to portray themselves. But I can see why a university might have to do go through the motions of saving face after something like that goes viral.

Come on now.

Seriously. This is PC to taken to the nth degree.

So you see women as empty vessels but what them to be more, but really you just want the prancing and hair-flipping?

ETA: This is a joke

 

[cstu]

Poll added.

 

[TobiasFunke]

It isn't homogenous and its women aren't empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance.

Like I said I personally couldn't care less. I wish more sororities put out videos of their members dancing around and flipping their hair. Hair-flipping and college-age girls are two of my favorite things. But that's how the video comes across and that's bad PR for a university.

Respectfully, that you watch the video and see "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" probably says more about you than it does about these women.

That's not a fair interpretation of what I said. There's a big difference between saying that these women are "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" and saying the video portrays them that way. And it clearly does portray them that way- they don't really do anything other than look pretty and flirty. You could put a collection of female Nobel Prize winners in a video doing the same thing and I'd make the same statement.

And I really don't care how they chose to portray themselves. But I can see why a university might have to do go through the motions of saving face after something like that goes viral.

Come on now.

Seriously. This is PC to taken to the nth degree.

Explain.

 

[Rayderr]

It isn't homogenous and its women aren't empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance.

Like I said I personally couldn't care less. I wish more sororities put out videos of their members dancing around and flipping their hair. Hair-flipping and college-age girls are two of my favorite things. But that's how the video comes across and that's bad PR for a university.

Respectfully, that you watch the video and see "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" probably says more about you than it does about these women.

That's not a fair interpretation of what I said. There's a big difference between saying that these women are "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" and saying the video portrays them that way. And it clearly does portray them that way- they don't really do anything other than look pretty and flirty. You could put a collection of female Nobel Prize winners in a video doing the same thing and I'd make the same statement.

And I really don't care how they chose to portray themselves. But I can see why a university might have to do go through the motions of saving face after something like that goes viral.

Come on now.

I don't think he's wrong. The video makes Alabama look like, well, how people assume Alabama looks. The University isn't going to want that from a PR perspective.

I don't think it makes Alaama look like that at all. It makes that particular sorority look like that.

 

[Parrothead]

waiting for the outrage from the fatty community (my bad- people of size)..

 

[Clifford]

Voted thankfully.

Lily white collections of nymphs is all (white) sororities are and all they are meant to be. This is college. Its about getting wasted and having sex. Especially at Alabama.

There is nothing more to it nor should there be. This video was a perfect reflection of the reality.

And most girls who are looking for that out of college want to be around other hot chicks so they get the attention of the hot frat guys.

I think this country takes itself a wee bit too seriously some of the time.

 

[avoiding injuries]

It isn't homogenous and its women aren't empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance.

Like I said I personally couldn't care less. I wish more sororities put out videos of their members dancing around and flipping their hair. Hair-flipping and college-age girls are two of my favorite things. But that's how the video comes across and that's bad PR for a university.

Respectfully, that you watch the video and see "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" probably says more about you than it does about these women.

That's not a fair interpretation of what I said. There's a big difference between saying that these women are "empty vessels whose value is pretty much entirely tied to their appearance" and saying the video portrays them that way. And it clearly does portray them that way- they don't really do anything other than look pretty and flirty. You could put a collection of female Nobel Prize winners in a video doing the same thing and I'd make the same statement.And I really don't care how they chose to portray themselves. But I can see why a university might have to do go through the motions of saving face after something like that goes viral.

Come on now.

I don't think he's wrong. The video makes Alabama look like, well, how people assume Alabama looks. The University isn't going to want that from a PR perspective.

Why? Multiple people in this thread said that if they were applying to schools now, Alabama would be included. Someone else said they wanted to put on their mangina and pledge Alpha Phi.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

I think before anyone comments more on the video in question, you owe it to yourself to view a few other sorority recruitment videos for comparison.

University of Miami Delta Gamma 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=10&v=sLRvS6-oLO4

University of Alabama Pi Beta Phi 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ41sevtlD4

University of Alabama Chi Omega 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eKsCs3uFLw

Florida State Kappa Alpha Theta 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-MlIrCfHo8

Florida State Alpha Phi 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drwWHJJIaHw

 

[TobiasFunke]

I think before anyone comments more on the video in question, you owe it to yourself to view a few other sorority recruitment videos for comparison.

University of Miami Delta Gamma 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=10&v=sLRvS6-oLO4

University of Alabama Pi Beta Phi 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ41sevtlD4

University of Alabama Chi Omega 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eKsCs3uFLw

Florida State Kappa Alpha Theta 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-MlIrCfHo8

Florida State Alpha Phi 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drwWHJJIaHw

I wasn't taking this very seriously before, but I think you're right. This issue merits careful study.

 

[Clifford]

That Chi O video sux in comparison.

This is just haterade folks. Alpha Phi killed it and the haterade is flowing.

 

[lod01]

Jesus people are pathetic these days.... now we're outraged about that?

Just another fine example of the US swirling the bowl.

 

[Bucky86]

I think before anyone comments more on the video in question, you owe it to yourself to view a few other sorority recruitment videos for comparison.

University of Miami Delta Gamma 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=10&v=sLRvS6-oLO4

University of Alabama Pi Beta Phi 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ41sevtlD4

University of Alabama Chi Omega 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eKsCs3uFLw

Florida State Kappa Alpha Theta 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-MlIrCfHo8

Florida State Alpha Phi 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drwWHJJIaHw

Hot.Do they all use the same editor? I can't tell the difference between any of these.