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Thats because the evidence was the same as it was for Jordan Knight's stomach issues or Catherine the greats death.
I strongly disagree. I don’t think the media was unfair at all. 99% of the time they’re not.
Why am I not surprised. SMH.
Lol. The new york times reported that the new yorker reported that lots of people remember hearing roy moore was banned from the shopping mall.
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The report I read indicates there were media reports that Moore was banned from the mall for soliciting young girls and ”badgering” them. There was a separate report that he told a 14 year old girl that she is “pretty.” The 14 year old was working at the mall as a Santa’s Helper. This all happened back in 1979 when he was an assistant DA in his 30s. There’s no dispute he frequently asked young gils out on dates. He asked the Santa’s Helper girl for a date two years later when she was 16. It’s disgusting conduct no matter how you view it, if perhaps not necessarily illegal in Alabama. The PAC is entitled to rely on those media reports. The mistake they made was stating in the ad that he was banned from the mall for soliciting a 14 year old Santa’s Helper. That statement was incorrect as they conflated the two reports. The PAC will appeal the verdict but that’s probably an uphill battle for them.
Former Ala. Senate Candidate Roy Moore Wins $8.2M Libel Verdict
The court allowed the case to go forward in an opinion on June 2: Press accounts, on which defendant political...
A Democratic-aligned super PAC is ordered to pay Roy Moore $8.2M in a defamation suit
A federal jury found that a Democratic-aligned super PAC defamed the Alabama Republican in a TV ad recounting sexual misconduct accusations during his failed 2017 U.S. Senate bid.
The Washington Post got a number of women to go on the record describing their experiences with him. It wasn't second-hand gossip. Would it have been enough to prove a criminal complaint against him? Almost certainly not (especially since it's not even clear that what he was accused of was a crime).. Did they make a pretty convincing case that the accusations were true? I think so. The women would have had no obvious reason to lie about it, and the Post found relatives and friends who backed up their stories. Also, I would argue the fact that they didn't allege major sexual misconduct probably strengthens their credibility. If you were going to make up a story whole cloth to ruin Moore politically, you'd probably come up with something more salacious than "He kissed me, touched my bra and panties, put my hand on his underwear, and when I asked him to stop he took me home."
The jury ruled that the specific claims made by the SuperPAC were untrue. They did not look at the allegations as a whole, as Moore never sued the Post for its initial report. So there hasn't been (and never will be) any verdict rendered on claims that he propositioned teenage girls. But as Sand says, the evidence that he did is pretty compelling
I know you are trying to defend the media here, but that story actually implicates the media.
If you're point is that the media is often sensationalistic and turns rumors into "facts", you'll get no disagreement from me. But that just demonstrates the problem with condemning "the media". Who does that even mean anymore? Some rando on Twitter posts a rumor, and then a media outlet that's partisan and/or disreputable repeats it, and then reporters write about the "controversy" that everyone's talking about. It's definitely a problem, but I'm not sure exactly who deserves the lion's share of the blame. The whole system is broken. But it's also on all of us to make those distinctions between serious reporters and Twitter randos. Because otherwise partisans can dismiss even the most damning accusations as "spin" or "political attacks".
We've all done that, though, haven't we (when we were teenagers)?
The report I read indicates there were media reports that Moore was banned from the mall for soliciting young girls and ”badgering” them. There was a separate report that he told a 14 year old girl that she is “pretty.” The 14 year old was working at the mall as a Santa’s Helper. This all happened back in 1979 when he was an assistant DA in his 30s. There’s no dispute he frequently asked young gils out on dates. He asked the Santa’s Helper girl for a date two years later when she was 16. It’s disgusting conduct no matter how you view it, if perhaps not necessarily illegal in Alabama. The PAC is entitled to rely on those media reports. The mistake they made was stating in the ad that he was banned from the mall for soliciting a 14 year old Santa’s Helper. That statement was incorrect as they conflated the two reports. The PAC will appeal the verdict but that’s probably an uphill battle for them.
Former Ala. Senate Candidate Roy Moore Wins $8.2M Libel Verdict
The court allowed the case to go forward in an opinion on June 2: Press accounts, on which defendant political...
A Democratic-aligned super PAC is ordered to pay Roy Moore $8.2M in a defamation suit
A federal jury found that a Democratic-aligned super PAC defamed the Alabama Republican in a TV ad recounting sexual misconduct accusations during his failed 2017 U.S. Senate bid.
So it sounds like he waited until they were 16 before asking her out. Very creepy and disturbing, but there are still a majority of states where 16 is the legal age of consent. It makes a material difference indicating she was 14.
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Moore's own description of courting his future wife (when she was still in high school and he was in his ~30s) is creepy as hell. If you didn't know who it was, you'd think that it was the confession of a sex offender.
