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Not sure what that means, but the Steelers are very close to the cap nearly every year. They just don't mortgage the future. Signing everybody sounds good for next season, but doesn't work out so well five or so years down the road.Since 1992, the Steelers are 152-90-1 (.6276 winning percentage) in the regular season, with a 12-9 playoff record, 9 division championships, 6 conference championship appearances, 2 Super Bowl appearances, and one Lombardi trophy. I believe they rank in the top 5 in the league in every category, and are first in half of them (regular season wins, division championships, conference championship appearances).They don't need me to defend them, but maybe, just maybe, the Rooneys know a little bit about what they are doing.
He was taking a page out of the Hines Ward playbook on crying to the media, but it doesn't seem to be working for him the same way. I love what Alan has done over the years but they have some young talent(Kemoeatu)and just signed Simmons long term. It is not looking good that he will be re-signed, but it's not 100% fact that he will be gone....
I have nothing to say about Faneca, but I think they already made a deal with Polamalu to keep him for five more years or something in that area.
5 years, $33 million LINKSo you add the expected Roethlisberger contract next year: 5 or 6 years at $10+ million a year, and you don't have room to sign an aging guard to a $40-45 million contract for 5 years.
Faneca's next contract will probably be his last contract. He knows this is he final chance to land the big $$$$'s. It will be interesting to see how he plays next year once he has his money.
Maybe im being unrealistic in my thinking we could keep him at 3-4 years 7 mill per. but he doesnt seem the type to dog it once hes paid. if its an honest decline at the wrong time ok. but not dog it
Faneca will play hard once he gets paid, I don't think that has anything to do with the Steelers stance, it's all about
Concur. It's basically how things work in the NFL.Faneca's been a warrior for the Steelers and one of my favorites, and while he's still good, his play has definitely slipped some(last year sometimes he didn't look like himself at all). I think he's still got a couple productive years left in him, but if he gets the rate he's looking for it'll be nearly impossible for him to play up to the contract.But we know some team will throw the money at him. Either one that has more money than sense or one that is desperate for help on the interior of their line.
Faneca has some good football left in him. But letting him walk is the (painfully) right decision. His best football is behind him. By the time the season starts next year, he will be a couple months shy of 32. That's who you want to sign to a 7 year deal?
You don't give players who are on the downside $50 million dollars. Some teams do, but the Steelers do not. Also, Why are you saying "we" about the steelers when you have Giants in your name?
Guards are just not worth that type of money to most teams. The Choke Vikes really overpaid for Hutch and it is effecting the team to put more talent on the team.Couple of years ago the Packers gave up Whale and it was a big deal to the fans but he was not worth the money and the team could use the cap space.Faneca will get some team that will come close to his demands, there are too many teams out there with horrible lines that need the quick fix. I would think that the Cardinals might be a team that would go after him, dont know how their cap looks however.
If I had to bet, he will be a Card next year, he loves Grimm and Wiz and they have cap room.
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He's making almost $4.5M this year. That's good money. Rumor has it that the Steelers were offering a new salary that would still keep him in the top 10 pay for guards, but Faneca/his agent refused it. Maybe it wasn't enough money. Maybe not enough guaranteed money.
The Steeler fan on your brother's PC is legal, but thinking Faneca is a left tackle is not.Isnt left tackle one of the highest pd positions in the sport, 2nd actually behind qb. and even the cap friendly cards with his old coaches arent giving him 7 years.Im a steerl fan fan on my brothers pc. is that still legal)
No towel wave for you.
Rod Woodson comes to mind, arguably Chad Brown. But if those are the three guys can stack up in the "maybe we should have paid them" column, free your lunch plans if you (you in the general sense, not specifically you, The_Man) want me to list everyone who was overpaid by and underperformed a new team.
Same 2 I was thinking.
On the flip side of the coin, I don't blame Faneca one bit for looking for his payday. I'd be doing exactly the same thing. He will be (and depending on your perspective, rightfully so) one of the top 1 or 2 paid Gs in the NFL. If he can earn $10-$20M more somewhere else, he should by all means grab his brass ring now. He's already got the SB ring.He's making almost $4.5M this year. That's good money. Rumor has it that the Steelers were offering a new salary that would still keep him in the top 10 pay for guards, but Faneca/his agent refused it. Maybe it wasn't enough money. Maybe not enough guaranteed money.
Sure. He'll get paid more elsewhere. But don't go whining to the press that the Steelers aren't treating him fairly and that "they've made it crystal clear that they have no intentions of signing me..." Play out the contract, which was a very good contract, and go sign elsewhere if that's what you choose to do. An offer in the top 10 (not percent, but overall) of other contracts seems fair to me. At one time he was one of the top 2 or 3 guards. That may not be the case now and almost certainly won't be the case next year or 3 years down the road when he's in the middle of this new contract. But I'm not mad at him. I don't blame any of them for getting the best contract they can get.On the flip side of the coin, I don't blame Faneca one bit for looking for his payday. I'd be doing exactly the same thing. He will be (and depending on your perspective, rightfully so) one of the top 1 or 2 paid Gs in the NFL. If he can earn $10-$20M more somewhere else, he should by all means grab his brass ring now. He's already got the SB ring.He's making almost $4.5M this year. That's good money. Rumor has it that the Steelers were offering a new salary that would still keep him in the top 10 pay for guards, but Faneca/his agent refused it. Maybe it wasn't enough money. Maybe not enough guaranteed money.
Faneca could come home and play for the Saints, who need an interior-line upgrade desperately. Even with the Saints current straits, though, I'd hate to see them throw Hutchinson money at Faneca. Maybe if he'd do a three-year deal, it wouldn't be so bad.EDIT: At the moment, the Saints would have to trade to get him. The Steelers would probably hold out for a second-round pick, I bet. That's too steep a price, IMHO.
If he would agree to a three year deal, we'd keep him.
LMAO i think he tried to correct it. At 20 you just dont understand or care about the politics of the game. He's just back from Afghanistan, its that crazy middle eastern grass i think.The Steeler fan on your brother's PC is legal, but thinking Faneca is a left tackle is not.Isnt left tackle one of the highest pd positions in the sport, 2nd actually behind qb. and even the cap friendly cards with his old coaches arent giving him 7 years.Im a steerl fan fan on my brothers pc. is that still legalNo towel wave for you.
How long does he want? Seven years or something? I was thinking it was more a "dollars-per-year" issue than just a "years" issue.Isn't he getting pretty long in the tooth? Faneca was at LSU when I attended in the early 90s.See the Saints did something similar when they let Willie Roaf go three years early (though the team's hand was somewhat forcedby behind-the-scenes stuff). I was certain Roaf would go into a tailspin for the Chiefs, but they got three (four?) excellent years out of him.
Kevin Greene was productive for several years after leaving as well.Same 2 I was thinking.
What is the picture? They could "lock" him up for two years with the franchise tag, if he were worth that kind of money, were FA next year and wouldn't sulk about it.
I remember hear that Rod Woodson is the player the team really regreted letting go.
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Why would someone looking to get paid a huge contract go into "Operation Shutdown" mode ????
Agreed. Faneca is playing for his last shot at big money. He will play hard and play well all season. Would be foolish for him to do anything else.Why would someone looking to get paid a huge contract go into "Operation Shutdown" mode ????
Yep. Faneca's best bet for a big payday would be to make the Pro Bowl again. A Super Bowl win would be icing on the cake -- there are always teams with cash looking to overspend on FA's from Super Bowl teams.Agreed. Faneca is playing for his last shot at big money. He will play hard and play well all season. Would be foolish for him to do anything else.Why would someone looking to get paid a huge contract go into "Operation Shutdown" mode ????
Faneca (as virtually any player who restructures a contract in his prime) didn't sacrifice for the team by restructuring his contract in the past - if anything it gave him the guaranteed $$ that he craves. By switching positions it supported the reason he was getting paid one of the top slaries on the team at the time - he was talented. By playing hurt he does what virtually any NFL player, college or high school player does on a given Sunday. Being top tier is why they have already paid him so much $$$ in the first place. If he wasn't he wouldn't have been paid that $$ in the first place. Overall, his positives were nothing more than any other very talented NFL player.Negatively balancing all of this is the fact that he has always been an outspoken whiner. His leadership came more out of his example of talent and effort. If anything he has long been a guy who openly questioned coaching and decisions. Sometimes he was right, sometimes he was wrong, but he never seemed to shy away from an opportunity to speak his mind. I'm not sure the "old Rooney's" would have had a lot of respect for the guy...
I was just about to post that in regards to Woodson. He wouldn't switch to safety for the Steelers but found out shortly afterward that was in his best interest.Say what you want about the Steelers, but they generally make good personnel decisions.
Ridiculous. The business practices you speak of are a function of the collective bargaining agreement between the players and the owners. The Steelers had the biggest payroll in the league at the end of the 1970s, but not at the beginning of their SB run in 1974. It's very rare that an athlete spends his entire career in one uniform these days, and not just in football. Art Rooney Sr. probably would be upset with the choices presented by the new realities of pro football, but to blame the Steelers ownership for making decisions in the same way all the teams throughout the league proceed is inaccurate.If you must look to find some bad guys, blame the NFLPA for their stubborn refusal to share some of their current windfall with the pioneers of the professional game who came long before them and laid the groundwork for the riches of today's and tomorrow's players.
If you had posted the above instead of your first post, you likely would not have seen the responses that followed. That's a reasonable opinion. People can agree or disagree. I don't know one way or the other how much the front office promised Faneca, and more importantly, what offers have been given. All I'll say is that this entire situation could be explained as simply as recognizing that the Steelers idea of "taking care of him" as promised and Faneca's idea of being "taken care of" by the Steelers could be millions of dollars apart.What if you found out that the Steelers offered him $8 million a year for three years and he declined? I'm not saying it happened, but it could have. I can accept that the Steelers front office may have been disingenuous to some degree, but can you accept that perhaps, just perhaps, they were not.
