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7.10 - Dave Bing - PG/1970's
Dave Bing played 12 seasons in the National Basketball Association (NBA) as a point guard for the Detroit Pistons (1966–1975), Washington Bullets (1975–1977), and Boston Celtics (1977–78). During his career, he averaged over 20 points and six assists per game and made seven NBA All-Star Game appearances, winning the game's Most Valuable Player award in 1976. The Pistons celebrated his career accomplishments with the retirement of his #21 jersey. In addition, he was elected to the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame and named one of the NBA's 50 Greatest Players of all-time.
Career highlights and awards
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Dave Bing played 12 seasons in the National Basketball Association (NBA) as a point guard for the Detroit Pistons (1966–1975), Washington Bullets (1975–1977), and Boston Celtics (1977–78). During his career, he averaged over 20 points and six assists per game and made seven NBA All-Star Game appearances, winning the game's Most Valuable Player award in 1976. The Pistons celebrated his career accomplishments with the retirement of his #21 jersey. In addition, he was elected to the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame and named one of the NBA's 50 Greatest Players of all-time.
Career highlights and awards
- 7× NBA All-Star (1968–1969, 1971, 1973–1976)
- NBA All-Star Game MVP (1976)
- 2× All-NBA First Team (1968, 1971)
- All-NBA Second Team (1974)
- NBA Rookie of the Year (1967)
- NBA All-Rookie Team (1967)
- NBA scoring champion (1968)
- J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award (1977)
- NBA 50th Anniversary All-Time Team
- No. 21 retired by Detroit Pistons
- Consensus first-team All-American (1966)
- Third-team All-American – NABC (1965)
- No. 22 retired by Syracuse
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trader jake
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It's crazy that Bird, Price, or anybody else could put up 50/40/90 with the hand-checking defenses were allowed to do back then. Compared Nash and Price when this draft was kicked off and I was shocked how close their stats were. Nash got the benefit of a longer career with the better training methodologies, etc and I admit it's tough for me to separate some of Nash's high end accomplishments from the 8 seconds or less offensive system he played in. Both Price and Nash were hell on wheels though and would be even better today, especially with those pass-first style ballers encouraged to use their shot as a weapon much more.
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wikkidpissah
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Jayrod
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Instinctive
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He would not have made it to you. He was #2 on my list to Wikkid and I'd have taken him on the comeback.
Jayrod
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That is where you put the best of your decade teams to compete for another round of points that are 2x the decade teams (pantheon team is 3x scoring).
It won't get filled until you decide you have your best complete decade team.
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Ilov80s
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Was about fit for my pantheon team for me there. Starting a team? Bing is more valuable than Dumars (and this will hurt my 70s team) but I defense and especially 3 point shooting.
trader jake
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Now that these players have been selected, I wanted to post some gems I found from an old Street and Smith’s (remember that magazine?) I found from 1994:
- Kevin Garnett “He is very unselfish and knows the game”
- Paul Pierce was called “the best player I’ve ever played against” by Huntington Beach star Tony Gonzalez*, who is attending the University of California
- Vince Carter “showed hang time a la Michael Jordan”
- Chauncey Billups “he generally plays his best under pressure”
* Yes, that Tony Gonzalez is the NFL Hall of Fame TE
Doug B
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Yo Mama
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Instinctive
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I obviously love basketball and read and watch a ton of info...but I was 2 years old in 1994. I do not remember the magazine. LOL. This is super cool.
Yo Mama
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Yo Mama
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I used to LOVE Street and Smith’s. I used to have an old collection of their annual college basketball previews. I think from early 80s to early 90s.
Mister CIA
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One Momento.
Mister CIA
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With the rest of my team running circles around the opposition, I think now take a guy who stand 10 feet away from the basket and hit turn around jump shots all day long.
7.11 - Mark Aguirre SF 80s
Had a six year stretch where he averaged about 25 points, 6 boards, and 4 assists per game. He was a stud, especially when he was parked on his spot. I think he was a deecent defender too, though like most I did not pay attention to defense in the 80s.
7.11 - Mark Aguirre SF 80s
Had a six year stretch where he averaged about 25 points, 6 boards, and 4 assists per game. He was a stud, especially when he was parked on his spot. I think he was a deecent defender too, though like most I did not pay attention to defense in the 80s.
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Mister CIA
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Yo Mama
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I forgot I had said 6pm pacific originally. Is this a pain for people on the east coast? We can switch it to 5pm pacific / 8pm eastern if it’s a problem.
We’re moving at a good pace so far.
Doug B
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7.12: C Walt Bellamy, 1960s
I need to crack the seal on the 1960s players and I feel like the best way to start out is with a big body that can hold down the middle. Bellamy bust onto the scene like a house of fire in 1961, scoring 31.6 ppg and pulling down 19 boards per game as a rookie. Bellamy stayed in the league into his mid-30s as a rebounding and defensive specialist, dropping his scoring average down into the teens while yielding shots to volume-scoring teammates like [redacted] and Pete Maravich.
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I need to crack the seal on the 1960s players and I feel like the best way to start out is with a big body that can hold down the middle. Bellamy bust onto the scene like a house of fire in 1961, scoring 31.6 ppg and pulling down 19 boards per game as a rookie. Bellamy stayed in the league into his mid-30s as a rebounding and defensive specialist, dropping his scoring average down into the teens while yielding shots to volume-scoring teammates like [redacted] and Pete Maravich.
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Kev4029
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EYLive
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You saved me from taking a 4th center in my first 8 picks. I might still pick a center but it won't be Bellamy. 
Doug B
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What are you going to do with Lanier and Unseld in the 1970s?
EYLive
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Jayrod
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I had just moved Unseld up to PF for you on the spreadsheet. You could flip him and Lanier, but not a big deal either way.
Ilov80s
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scoobus
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7.14 Carmelo Anthony, SF 10s
Alright guys, I didn’t even want to take him and he might not make my pantheon, but this is getting ridiculous. Wish I had more time to write this up. Joined a perennial lottery team and immediately took them to like 9 straight playoffs (Kev can fact check me there). One of the most difficult guards of his era, he’s going to finish in the top 10 on the all-time scoring list. NCAA legend, FIBA superstar and 3 time gold medalist. Also happy that he finally became content in being a role player late in his career because he loves playing basketball so much, and is still a key contributor off the bench at 36 for the playoff bound Blazers.
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Alright guys, I didn’t even want to take him and he might not make my pantheon, but this is getting ridiculous. Wish I had more time to write this up. Joined a perennial lottery team and immediately took them to like 9 straight playoffs (Kev can fact check me there). One of the most difficult guards of his era, he’s going to finish in the top 10 on the all-time scoring list. NCAA legend, FIBA superstar and 3 time gold medalist. Also happy that he finally became content in being a role player late in his career because he loves playing basketball so much, and is still a key contributor off the bench at 36 for the playoff bound Blazers.
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Kev4029
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Should have guessed that the Cuse stan would steal my pick... I was starting to write it up.
They made the playoffs every year Melo was on the team. He was also the best player on the 08-09 Nuggets team that I still think would have won the title if not for George Karl's love for Anthony Carter, and Anthony Carter's love of throwing the ball to the wrong team at the end of games.
Yo Mama
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Figured between the Syracuse guy and the Nuggets guy he wouldn’t make it through the gauntlet.
EYLive
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Cool, that works. He put up great numbers in his first 2 years in the 60's as well, but PF is good for me.
Kev4029
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7.15 Dave DeBusschere, SF, 60s
DeBusschere was first team all-defense each of the last six years of his career. He wasn’t All-Defense the prior six years because it didn’t exist. Ten time All-Star. Something of a combo forward that would use his effort and smarts (he was a player-coach for the Pistons starting at age 24) to shut down the opposing team’s best forward (played SF for the Pistons, PF for the Knicks), and was a bit of a jack of all trades, master of none otherwise. Was the glue that held together the ‘69 and ‘73 Knicks. Career 16.1 pts/11.0 reb/2.9 ast.
Great player to do the dirty work on my all-time team, pairing 3 all-timers defensively (himself, West, Walton), with passing and ball handling all around.
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DeBusschere was first team all-defense each of the last six years of his career. He wasn’t All-Defense the prior six years because it didn’t exist. Ten time All-Star. Something of a combo forward that would use his effort and smarts (he was a player-coach for the Pistons starting at age 24) to shut down the opposing team’s best forward (played SF for the Pistons, PF for the Knicks), and was a bit of a jack of all trades, master of none otherwise. Was the glue that held together the ‘69 and ‘73 Knicks. Career 16.1 pts/11.0 reb/2.9 ast.
Great player to do the dirty work on my all-time team, pairing 3 all-timers defensively (himself, West, Walton), with passing and ball handling all around.
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Jayrod
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I debated him vs. DJ vs. Dumars for a while today. Ultimately felt I needed more of a PG defender than a SF and liked what DJ brought to the table offensively (assists/shooting), but DeBusschere was a pain in the ### of his opponents and one of my dad's favorite players.
wikkidpissah
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Kev4029
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I'm pretty lukewarm on Melo, but I'm surprised he made it this far. If Melo had been on the Celtics rather than Pierce who was selected 50 picks earlier, I don't think things would have been much different for that title team. Or, like I said, maybe Anthony Carter isn't such a #### bag and the Nuggets beat the Magic in the finals that year and Melo is all the sudden a top 50-75 player of all time.
Jayrod
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That was his peak in rebounding and year 2 was tops in points for him. I'm guessing his legs lost a little explosiveness after 160+ games under all that weight.18.2 rebounds as a rookie.
Instinctive
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I've had Melo as the guy I thought I'd have to take but don't want for a couple rounds now, especially because my team is 2000s heavy as is. Thank you for not making it an issue in round 8.
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