Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
***** ALL-TIME NBA/ABA DRAFT ***** (Scoobus is Champion!) (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter Yo Mama
- Start date
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Last edited by a moderator:
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
Sorry, guys...this was my toughest choice so far. Lots of difference makers left and I have 24 picks until my next one, so I'm sweating this one out a bit.
I feel like the biggest value pick right now is:
9.04 - Richie Guerin - SG 60's
There are better players out there still, but the cupboard of impactful guards in the 60's has been raided and this guy is about all that's left.
Guerin was a 6'4" guard and the first star for the storied New York Knicks. He was a do-everything type guy who averaged 17.3 pts, 5.0 ast, & 5.0 rbs for his career. He was a 6 x All-star and a 3 x all-NBA selection over 13 seasons. His best season was '61-'62 where he averaged 29.5/6.9/6.4.
@Ilov80s
I feel like the biggest value pick right now is:
9.04 - Richie Guerin - SG 60's
There are better players out there still, but the cupboard of impactful guards in the 60's has been raided and this guy is about all that's left.
Guerin was a 6'4" guard and the first star for the storied New York Knicks. He was a do-everything type guy who averaged 17.3 pts, 5.0 ast, & 5.0 rbs for his career. He was a 6 x All-star and a 3 x all-NBA selection over 13 seasons. His best season was '61-'62 where he averaged 29.5/6.9/6.4.
@Ilov80s
Last edited by a moderator:
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
I know, right?!?
I went from best player available in the early rounds to best fit for my pantheon team to specific roles for my pantheon team, but now the field is wide open to who helps my 6 decade teams the most. Suddenly, there are like 20 positions of need...makes it tough to narrow down. Add in the long wait until my next pick and the FOMO is real.
modogg
Footballguy
yeah, i am really hoping it speeds up a bit and gets back to the top of the draft by the end of the day
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
PANTHEON SQUAD
PG - Magic Johnson
SG - Clyde Drexler
SF - Bernard King
PF - Dave Cowens
C - Patrick Ewing:
BENCH: PG/SG Earl Monroe, F Gus Johnson. G-F-C Ben Simmons
Great shots, great stops. Most important, someone's always gonna be open for me, not so for you. 5 of my 8 have played Center to good effect, but i've got some of the best switchers the game has ever seen. Only flaw, no established 3-pt specialist, but if you dont think Clyde, King, Cowens & Pearl can walk it out like these kids have, well then, let's press some bets.
ETA: Sub pattern - Simmons in for Cowens @ 6:00 mark; Pearl in for Clyde, Gus for Bernard @ 3:00; Cowens for Ewing (stompin' 5 time), Clyde for Magic at the quarter. King for Gus @ 2/9:00 (depending on matchup)s; Ewing and Magic back anywhere from 2/8:00 to 2/6:00. Clyde gets a minute blow @ 2/3:00.
PG - Magic Johnson
SG - Clyde Drexler
SF - Bernard King
PF - Dave Cowens
C - Patrick Ewing:
BENCH: PG/SG Earl Monroe, F Gus Johnson. G-F-C Ben Simmons
Great shots, great stops. Most important, someone's always gonna be open for me, not so for you. 5 of my 8 have played Center to good effect, but i've got some of the best switchers the game has ever seen. Only flaw, no established 3-pt specialist, but if you dont think Clyde, King, Cowens & Pearl can walk it out like these kids have, well then, let's press some bets.
ETA: Sub pattern - Simmons in for Cowens @ 6:00 mark; Pearl in for Clyde, Gus for Bernard @ 3:00; Cowens for Ewing (stompin' 5 time), Clyde for Magic at the quarter. King for Gus @ 2/9:00 (depending on matchup)s; Ewing and Magic back anywhere from 2/8:00 to 2/6:00. Clyde gets a minute blow @ 2/3:00.
Last edited by a moderator:
Ilov80s
Footballguy
9.05 Chet The Jet Walker SF 60s
HOF, 7x All Star, 1x Champion, 53rd all time in win shares, closest similarity score was McHale and Rick Barry
An aggressive and durable defender, slasher and jump shooter to give me a dominant front court along side Pettit and Russ.
Eta: could bump him to 70s if value comes up later, he had pretty much an equal career in both decades
HOF, 7x All Star, 1x Champion, 53rd all time in win shares, closest similarity score was McHale and Rick Barry
An aggressive and durable defender, slasher and jump shooter to give me a dominant front court along side Pettit and Russ.
Eta: could bump him to 70s if value comes up later, he had pretty much an equal career in both decades
Last edited by a moderator:
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Sticking with the "picking my favorites" strategy, I'm going with
9.06 SF Glen Rice, 90s
One of the best shooters the game has ever seen, from his days leading Michigan to an NCAA Championship with a still record 184 points in one tournament (on 27/49 3-point shooting), to that one blistering 3rd quarter in the All-Star Game where he scored 20 points (leading to an All-Star MVP), to the game in 1995 where he shot 20-27 and finished with 56 points.
3x All-Star, 2x All-NBA, All-Star MVP, 3-point contest winner, and has a ring. Career: 18.3ppg on 40% 3-point shooting. One of only 48 players to eclipse 18k career points. Was once arrested while hiding in a closet, and admitted to having banged Sarah Palin.
9.06 SF Glen Rice, 90s
One of the best shooters the game has ever seen, from his days leading Michigan to an NCAA Championship with a still record 184 points in one tournament (on 27/49 3-point shooting), to that one blistering 3rd quarter in the All-Star Game where he scored 20 points (leading to an All-Star MVP), to the game in 1995 where he shot 20-27 and finished with 56 points.
3x All-Star, 2x All-NBA, All-Star MVP, 3-point contest winner, and has a ring. Career: 18.3ppg on 40% 3-point shooting. One of only 48 players to eclipse 18k career points. Was once arrested while hiding in a closet, and admitted to having banged Sarah Palin.
Last edited by a moderator:
Instinctive
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
Hall of Famer!
In all seriousness, this was a pretty dang good pick.
"NBA Hall-of-Famer Bill Walton took a shot at the notoriously offense-minded Rice.
'Sarah Palin had an intimate relationship with Glen Rice in the 80s," he tweeted. "Rice tried to resist but he was never one to stop anyone from scoring'."
Last edited by a moderator:
Frostillicus
Footballguy
I never in a million years would have expected to be this far into this draft and not have a single 80s or 00s player. Weird. Loving this 90s front court though:
SF Glen Rice
PF Shawn Kemp
C Alonzo Mourning
SF Glen Rice
PF Shawn Kemp
C Alonzo Mourning
Zegras11
Footballguy
Yo Mama
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Not sure number of teams is the best criticism of era quality. More teams just waters down the quality of teams and play. Imagine how talented and competitive the NBA would be now if half the teams were dissolved and those players entered a draft for the remaining teams to add. Less teams does make it statistically more likely to win a title but doesn’t make the title easier to win.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Instinctive
Footballguy
I had both slotted as Pantheon team potential but would never have put them together on one decade team. WIll be interesting to see how it looks.
Instinctive
Footballguy
9.08 Alvin Robertson, SG 80s
Was so sad when this pick was made at the turn. Then happy it was unmade!
All NBA, All Star, steals leader, all defense, and DPOtY
Will try to do a full writeup after work. Suffice to say, Pantheon team potential here.
Was so sad when this pick was made at the turn. Then happy it was unmade!
All NBA, All Star, steals leader, all defense, and DPOtY
Will try to do a full writeup after work. Suffice to say, Pantheon team potential here.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
Those are two guys that are good at everything but great at nothing. Actually pretty valuable to most teams though.
ETA: I take it back, I didn't realize how great a Defender AK-47 was.
Last edited by a moderator:
EYLive
Footballguy
I love both because they're Swiss Army knife guys. They don't have plays run for them, don't need the ball in their hands, they'll defend and switch on any wing player or PF and are opportunistic scorers. I already have Kobe and now I have 2 cleanup guys that were routinely ranked #1 and #2 in fantasy drafts in the 2000's. AK47 would win weeks by himself when he'd fill the stat sheet with 5 assist, 5, steal and 5 block nights.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Nice I was going to offer a trade for Robertson but they let him go back before I could type it. Then for reasons I can’t reveal now, I decided to shift to The Jet. Tough picking some of these older players as I wasn’t around to really watch them. Russ and Pettit I am sure of snd know about. My knowledge of Walker is much more limited. I hope that was the right move.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That shot from Marion though, woof. One of my least favorite players just for that odd reason.
Zegras11
Footballguy
Twice as many teams in that era means half of the players on those Celtic teams would be on other teams.
Of course it made it easier to win back then. There were only 8 teams back then. Boston played TWO series to win those titles in the 50's.
EYLive
Footballguy
His, and [avoid spotlighting]'s shot where the ball spins sideways, were unpleasant to look at.
dammit. was hoping people would forget he was back on the board. only three picks away
scoobus
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
At some point I was wondering if people had the intentional strategy of just punting a category to load up on others
Instinctive
Footballguy
goodbye 70s! As soon as Gilmore didn't make it to me, I'm pretty sure I was like well screw it.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Thought it would be fun to pair him on my 80s squad with Moncrief and Parish, and then try to beat everyone 70-68 every game.
EYLive
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Statistically easier but not necessarily easier in execution given the concentration of talent. A series only really matters if the teams one is playing are a worthy challenge. It’s easier to win 3 series against mediocre to bad teams than 1 series against a world class team.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Going for the aughts Pistons strategy. Might be tough to pull off in the wild scoring era of the 80s. Even the Bad Boys era Pistons were averaging 100-112 a game.
Jayrod
Footballguy
The other finalist for my last pick was an 80's guy, but the fact that I had 2 already in the 80's and hadn't touched the 60's yet pushed me over to Guerin.
Last edited by a moderator:
trader jake
Footballguy
9.09 Amar'e Stoudemire – C 2000s
The high-flying big for Phoenix was the finisher for those almost-championship Suns.
The McDonald’s All-American came straight to the pros from high school and beat out Yao Ming and a tough class of rookies to take home the rookie of the year award. That season he put up a prep-to-pro rookie record 38 points in a game (broken by LeBron James). The next season he exploded statistically, and the rest was history. In one game he’d put up 10 blocks, followed the next game with 40 and 15…he was dominant to watch.
Only a knee injury in the mid 2000’s kept him from putting up even better numbers, but he did post 5 All-NBA seasons in the decade. His athleticism and versatility inside was a wonder to watch and when he wasn’t blocking shots, grabbing offensive rebounds, or going up for highlight dunks he was working his way to the foul line – leading in free throws mid-decade. He was such an athletic freak that in 2020 he was still playing professional basketball in Isreal (he’s now with the Nets as a development assistant).
The high-flying big for Phoenix was the finisher for those almost-championship Suns.
The McDonald’s All-American came straight to the pros from high school and beat out Yao Ming and a tough class of rookies to take home the rookie of the year award. That season he put up a prep-to-pro rookie record 38 points in a game (broken by LeBron James). The next season he exploded statistically, and the rest was history. In one game he’d put up 10 blocks, followed the next game with 40 and 15…he was dominant to watch.
Only a knee injury in the mid 2000’s kept him from putting up even better numbers, but he did post 5 All-NBA seasons in the decade. His athleticism and versatility inside was a wonder to watch and when he wasn’t blocking shots, grabbing offensive rebounds, or going up for highlight dunks he was working his way to the foul line – leading in free throws mid-decade. He was such an athletic freak that in 2020 he was still playing professional basketball in Isreal (he’s now with the Nets as a development assistant).
Last edited by a moderator:
9.10 - Larry Nance - PF/1980's
OK - time to break the seal on the 80's. Also, he was a key component to my first ever fantasy basketball championship team so he has that going for him as well.
Larry Nance scored 15,687 career points and grabbed 7,352 career rebounds, but he is perhaps best known as the first winner of the NBA Slam Dunk Contest in 1984, earning him the nickname "The High-Ayatolla of Slamola" Nance was a model of consistency throughout his NBA career. He averaged over 16 points and 8 rebounds per game for all eleven seasons as a starter. His best scoring average year was in the 1986–1987 NBA season, where he averaged 22.5 points per game. Always among the highest in field goal percentage, Nance was an excellent mid-range shooter as well as a talented inside player.
Career highlights and awards
OK - time to break the seal on the 80's. Also, he was a key component to my first ever fantasy basketball championship team so he has that going for him as well.
Larry Nance scored 15,687 career points and grabbed 7,352 career rebounds, but he is perhaps best known as the first winner of the NBA Slam Dunk Contest in 1984, earning him the nickname "The High-Ayatolla of Slamola" Nance was a model of consistency throughout his NBA career. He averaged over 16 points and 8 rebounds per game for all eleven seasons as a starter. His best scoring average year was in the 1986–1987 NBA season, where he averaged 22.5 points per game. Always among the highest in field goal percentage, Nance was an excellent mid-range shooter as well as a talented inside player.
Career highlights and awards
- 3× NBA All-Star (1985, 1989, 1993)
- NBA All-Defensive First Team (1989)
- 2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1992, 1993)
- NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (1984)
- No. 22 retired by Cleveland Cavaliers
- Second-team All-ACC (1981)
Instinctive
Footballguy
Kept looking at him. If he'd made an actual All-NBA team he'd probably have been my pick. Big fan.
Jayrod
Footballguy
Well, if you didn't take Robertson I would have left Nance for your next pick. hahaha
Last edited by a moderator:
Similar threads
