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***** ALL-TIME NBA/ABA DRAFT ***** (Scoobus is Champion!) (2 Viewers)
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Yeah, maybe we don't redo it, but just start over with whoever hasn't been drafted yet. Going deep!!!
ETA: Vinny Del Negro could be a first rounder!
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Kev4029
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Jayrod
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I know right?!? WTF honestly names their kid Happy Hairston, Zelmo Beaty or **** Van Arsdale?
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1.02 Cream Biggums, PC (point center), 2020s
Never before seen (except by 500K people) footage of his legendary NBA combine workout.
Never before seen (except by 500K people) footage of his legendary NBA combine workout.
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26.05: C Elmore Smith, 1970s
Overpowering physical gifts as a young player. A solid 250 pounds and a legit 7 feet, Smith put up 17 ppg -15 rpg and 18-12 his first two years in Buffalo. The Lakers then traded for Smith to replace the retiring Wilt Chamberlain. Smith's offense was less in need in Los Angeles so he concentrated on the boards and defense. Blocks weren't official NBA stats during his first two seasons in Buffalo, but blocks were counted starting the year he went to L.A. Smith put up a cool 4.9 blocks per over 81 games and set a still-standing NBA record of 17 blocks in one contest (vs Portland, 10/28/1973).
The Lakers later moved Smith in the Kareem-Abdul Jabbar deal with Milwaukee. Smith had remained a double-double guy throughout his two seasons in L.A. and played at that level one more year in Milwaukee (15ppg -11rpg - 3 bpg in 1975-76). Knee problems relegated Smith to a part-time role over his last three NBA seasons, and led to his early retirement at age 30. Nevertheless, Smith ended his career averaging a double-double (13.4 ppg and 10.6 rpg) plus 2.9 blocks per contest.
Overpowering physical gifts as a young player. A solid 250 pounds and a legit 7 feet, Smith put up 17 ppg -15 rpg and 18-12 his first two years in Buffalo. The Lakers then traded for Smith to replace the retiring Wilt Chamberlain. Smith's offense was less in need in Los Angeles so he concentrated on the boards and defense. Blocks weren't official NBA stats during his first two seasons in Buffalo, but blocks were counted starting the year he went to L.A. Smith put up a cool 4.9 blocks per over 81 games and set a still-standing NBA record of 17 blocks in one contest (vs Portland, 10/28/1973).
The Lakers later moved Smith in the Kareem-Abdul Jabbar deal with Milwaukee. Smith had remained a double-double guy throughout his two seasons in L.A. and played at that level one more year in Milwaukee (15ppg -11rpg - 3 bpg in 1975-76). Knee problems relegated Smith to a part-time role over his last three NBA seasons, and led to his early retirement at age 30. Nevertheless, Smith ended his career averaging a double-double (13.4 ppg and 10.6 rpg) plus 2.9 blocks per contest.
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Time for writeups. Yo Mama selected:
25.16 - Arnie Risen, 60s C
I needed some more size to match up with the bigs of the 60s, and Macauley is more the size of a PF from that decade anyway. Risen gives me another hall of famer to my front court.
Career - 12.0 pts, 9.7 reb, 1.7 ast
Peak - 14.5 pts, 11.4 reb, 2.1 ast
Hall of fame
2x champ (averaged 19.5 and 14.0 in the playoffs for his first)
4x all star
1x all baa
1x all nbl (playing for the Indianapolis Kautskys)
25.16 - Arnie Risen, 60s C
I needed some more size to match up with the bigs of the 60s, and Macauley is more the size of a PF from that decade anyway. Risen gives me another hall of famer to my front court.
Career - 12.0 pts, 9.7 reb, 1.7 ast
Peak - 14.5 pts, 11.4 reb, 2.1 ast
Hall of fame
2x champ (averaged 19.5 and 14.0 in the playoffs for his first)
4x all star
1x all baa
1x all nbl (playing for the Indianapolis Kautskys)
Jayrod
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Kev4029
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My 2010s team is complete (top 5 seasons for each).
PG - Mike Conley
SG - JJ Reddick
SF - Danilo Gallinari
PF - Draymond Green
C - Nikola Jokic
The offense is going to be on-point. Jokic has been the driver for an offense that has been between 4th and 6th best in the NBA each of the last 5 years that has generally been held back by a lack of shooters which will not be an issue here (side note - they are shooting great this year which is why I think Jokic is looking so good). We'll be running the Nuggets offense on steroids - Jokic as the nominal PG with lots of dribble handoffs and inverted PnR creating tons of easy looks for the team. Offensively, we'll be a powerhouse. Defensively, we are not going to be a top defense, but Green is the best possibly defender in the NBA to put next to Jokic, Conley has been one of the most consistent defenders at the position in the decade, and the other three are all a little better than advertised (i.e. slightly below average to average).
PG - Mike Conley
SG - JJ Reddick
SF - Danilo Gallinari
PF - Draymond Green
C - Nikola Jokic
The offense is going to be on-point. Jokic has been the driver for an offense that has been between 4th and 6th best in the NBA each of the last 5 years that has generally been held back by a lack of shooters which will not be an issue here (side note - they are shooting great this year which is why I think Jokic is looking so good). We'll be running the Nuggets offense on steroids - Jokic as the nominal PG with lots of dribble handoffs and inverted PnR creating tons of easy looks for the team. Offensively, we'll be a powerhouse. Defensively, we are not going to be a top defense, but Green is the best possibly defender in the NBA to put next to Jokic, Conley has been one of the most consistent defenders at the position in the decade, and the other three are all a little better than advertised (i.e. slightly below average to average).
Yo Mama
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Time to fill the last spot for my loaded 70s squad. Yo Mama selected:
26.01 - Campy Russell, 70s SF
There were a couple of other guys I was looking at here, but with Archibald and Goodrich in my 70s backcourt, I needed a bit more size on the wing. Russell was an excellent two way player who could do it all. 2nd best Cavalier SF ever (pretty close to that top guy). Career cut short from a bad knee injury but put up great numbers before his injury.
Career - 15.8 pts, 4.8 reb, 3.0 ast, 1.0 stl
Peak - 20.1 pts, 6.3 reb, 4.3 ast, 1.4 stl
1x all star
26.01 - Campy Russell, 70s SF
There were a couple of other guys I was looking at here, but with Archibald and Goodrich in my 70s backcourt, I needed a bit more size on the wing. Russell was an excellent two way player who could do it all. 2nd best Cavalier SF ever (pretty close to that top guy). Career cut short from a bad knee injury but put up great numbers before his injury.
Career - 15.8 pts, 4.8 reb, 3.0 ast, 1.0 stl
Peak - 20.1 pts, 6.3 reb, 4.3 ast, 1.4 stl
1x all star
wikkidpissah
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Yo Mama
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26.07 - Isaiah Rider - SG/1990's
Another in the long line of Gally Slam Dunk Winning team members. He can score and this squad needs some scorers.
Career highlights and awards
Another in the long line of Gally Slam Dunk Winning team members. He can score and this squad needs some scorers.
Career highlights and awards
- NBA champion (2001)
- NBA All-Rookie First Team (1994)
- NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (1994)
- Consensus second-team All-American (1993)
- Big West Player of the Year (1993)
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26.08 Bobby Wanzer – SG 1960s and prior
- Hall of Famer, 5x NBA All-Star, 3x All-NBA, led league in FT% (first player to ever hit over 90%), NBA Championship
- College career interrupted 2 years due to military service
- Played 9 seasons, all with Rochester, making the All-Star teams 5 consecutive seasons
- During his final two years as a player, he served as the team's player-coach
- Similarity score thru 9yrs most closely to Jeff Hornacek, Steph Marbury, and Deron Williams
- Other info: Wore unusual number (#09) on his jersey at the beginning of his career
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Enjoyed THIS interview he gave 10 years ago. Said his high school team won a championship, but he missed a big free throw. That drove him to practice shooting free throws every day. Whether it's one of these "made up" players from back in the days or Michael Jordan being cut from his high school team (technically, he was a skinny 15 year old) it's cool to read/hear how almost any failure/rejection only pushes them more.In that interview he was asked who the greatest player he ever played against was? "Hooks" (aka, The Wanzer) noted he never really got to face Bill Russell but said it was George Mikan. In the backcourt specifically he mentioned Bob Cousy.
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26.10 - Terry Dischinger, SG 1960s
His ROY stats: 25.5PPG, 8 Reb, 3 Assists on 51% shooting.
3× NBA All-Star (1963–1965)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1963)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1963)
2× Consensus first-team All-American (1961, 1962)
Consensus second-team All-American (1960)
Second-team Parade All-American (1958)
His ROY stats: 25.5PPG, 8 Reb, 3 Assists on 51% shooting.
3× NBA All-Star (1963–1965)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1963)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1963)
2× Consensus first-team All-American (1961, 1962)
Consensus second-team All-American (1960)
Second-team Parade All-American (1958)
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modogg
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i've been trying to catch up on so much NBA and ABA in the 60a, 70s and 80s i am sure we can run it back and I'll be picking all sorts of other guys.
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Frostillicus
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Michael Cage. Write up later.
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26.12 Scott Wedman SF 70s
2x All Star, 2x NBA Champ, 1x All Defense
Peak of his career ran 76-83 where averaged 16 points, 7 boards, 2 assists and a steal. Put on one of the best NBA Finals shooting performances of all time going 11 for 11 including 4 threes in game 1 of the 85 Finals.
I finish up my 70s team needed a wing defender and a sharpshooter.
70s squad:
PG Archie Clark
SG Randy Smith
SF Scott Weldman
PF Larry Kenon
C Bob McAdoo
2x All Star, 2x NBA Champ, 1x All Defense
Peak of his career ran 76-83 where averaged 16 points, 7 boards, 2 assists and a steal. Put on one of the best NBA Finals shooting performances of all time going 11 for 11 including 4 threes in game 1 of the 85 Finals.
I finish up my 70s team needed a wing defender and a sharpshooter.
70s squad:
PG Archie Clark
SG Randy Smith
SF Scott Weldman
PF Larry Kenon
C Bob McAdoo
Frostillicus
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26.11 PF Michael Cage, 80s
Rebounding and jheri curl wearing machine.
Career: 7.3ppg/7.5rpg
Peak: 12.5ppg/11.0rpg
1x rebounding title
26th all-time in offensive rebounds
67th all-time in total rebounds
4x games played champion
Instinctive
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Mack Calvin 70s PG 26.09
Yo Mama
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Mister CIA
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25.11 - Nenê, C, 10s
Just have to clear a path for Durant, big fella.
Just have to clear a path for Durant, big fella.
Mister CIA
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26.06 - Walter Dukes, C, 60s and not beyond.
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wikkidpissah
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modogg
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hmm sneaky good pick there. Will come down to how we judge these teams a bit, but he is in the upper echelon
Kev4029
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Nene is hugely underrated, I think. He could step out and guard smaller guys a bit (he was ridiculously nibble for a big guy), he was strong enough to beast with the big dudes, he had quick, strong hands, he was great around the basket offensively, was a decent passer, and had a decent jump shot. He was just never flashy and his vertical was fairly pedestrian so he didn't have many big highlights (especially with the other more athletic front court players the Nuggets had in his prime) and he struggled with some injuries earlier on his career.
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