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Including his ABA years, he is an absolute 1st rounder in this draft. Before Bird and Magic, there was Dr. J.My favorite non-Laker. Was hoping he’d fall a few more spots.
Including his ABA years, he is an absolute 1st rounder in this draft. Before Bird and Magic, there was Dr. J.My favorite non-Laker. Was hoping he’d fall a few more spots.
#22 a decade ago, at his recency-bias nadir. good to see him regaining respect
yeah, careerism is always what pisses me off in alltime sportsdrafts (or HOFs). guys who had 2-3 year peaks (whether due to injury or not) lightyears ahead of mediocrities who get picked ahead of em cuz they stuck around forever. George Foster Syndrome, i call it.I stole him in the 2nd round of that draft (but we ignored ABA in that one).
Argh, so close.1.14 Shaquille O'Neal, C, 90's I think
Shaq, Diesel, The Big Aristotle, Superman, Shaq Fu. Peak Shaq is as dominant a dude on the court as I've ever seen, a true physical specimen. As good of a player on the court as he is bad on TNT.
my pick @ 1.08 a decade ago1.14 Shaquille O'Neal, C, 90's I think
Shaq, Diesel, The Big Aristotle, Superman, Shaq Fu. Peak Shaq is as dominant a dude on the court as I've ever seen, a true physical specimen. As good of a player on the court as he is bad on TNT.
I may have taken him there in this draft as well if I was in that spot, definitely appear to be higher on him than others.my pick @ 1.08 a decade ago
I had him ranked #9, ahead of 5 guys who were drafted before him today.1.14 Shaquille O'Neal, C, 90's I think
Shaq, Diesel, The Big Aristotle, Superman, Shaq Fu. Peak Shaq is as dominant a dude on the court as I've ever seen, a true physical specimen. As good of a player on the court as he is bad on TNT.
Have we sort of re-assessed his career a bit over the last 10 years? Or did the house screw up today by not taking Shaq ahead of Olajuwon?my pick @ 1.08 a decade ago
My three were Bird, Duncan & Shaq after pick 6 was complete. This was the debate for me when I took Duncan after Bird was taken.1.14 Shaquille O'Neal, C, 90's I think
Shaq, Diesel, The Big Aristotle, Superman, Shaq Fu. Peak Shaq is as dominant a dude on the court as I've ever seen, a true physical specimen. As good of a player on the court as he is bad on TNT.
he chose when he used it and how he used it. what he had to use was probably right there with LBJ & Wilt. beautiful feet for such a freak & on his hip was the worst place to be in the history of ball. he'd be feeding teeth to the most-imposing current-day big men if he chose to. his memory will also suffer the more spread the game gets.Have we sort of re-assessed his career a bit over the last 10 years? Or did the house screw up today by not taking Shaq ahead of Olajuwon?
He hasn't been on in 4 hours. We may be waiting for a bit.
Bill Simmons calls this a top 5 all-time steal in All-Time NBA Drafts.1.09 Larry Bird - SF 1980's
Swapped draft slots to land The Hick from French Lick. When you think of Larry Legend what comes to mind? The steal and pass against the Pistons, his proclamation that everyone was playing for 2nd in the 3pt contest with him winning, finger aloft not even bothering to take off his warm up jacket, or one of his numerous highlight reel passes or shots?
Larry Bird was cold blooded when it mattered most on the biggest stages against other all-time players. He put up ridiculous numbers on winning teams when defenses got away with all kinds of nonsense. His passing skills would inject life into any offense, in any era, with any group of teammates and he's a matchup nightmare. Plus he's the single best trash talker of all-time. #33
I like this.i were forming a team, i'd take Hakeem. if our children had guns to their head on the sideline by thugs who'd bet the game, Shaq Daddy.
The kind of steal that ranks up there with Dylan stealing Kelly from Brandon.Bill Simmons calls this a top 5 all-time steal in All-Time NBA Drafts.
argh, we should make a rule that no more SIxers can be picked between now and pick 32. I was thinking of even trading down to get Dr. J around 10, absolutely love the guy.
Simmons blows. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/larry-bird-and-dr-j-fought-it-out-garden-35-years-ago-todayBill Simmons calls this a top 5 all-time steal in All-Time NBA Drafts.
To ignore the ABA seems like an odd omission for that 2010 draft. If interested, the book 'Loose Balls' by Terry Pluto is a great read about that league.I stole [Dr.J} in the 2nd round of that draft (but we ignored ABA in that one).
Hell yeah he would. To land Larry Bird at 1.09 when Bill has him at #6 in his pantheon is just good value with the franchise players here.Bill Simmons calls this a top 5 all-time steal in All-Time NBA Drafts.
Just another reason why Larry Bird is the man. The Celtics were defending champions and that fight with Dr. J occurred after, "Bird had torched Erving and the Sixers for 42 points in 30 minutes (Dr. J had been held to six points) when an offensive foul call on Bird led to a scuffle that saw the benches empty and the two stars throw down." So, basically, Bird was kicking Dr. J's ### and he didn't like it. BTW - The Celtics also won that game 130-119.Simmons blows. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/larry-bird-and-dr-j-fought-it-out-garden-35-years-ago-today
My man should have ended Bird's career a few years earlier with a body slam through the announcer's table . Needed a little more Mahorn and Laimbeer magic for that
Thank you, AlanShaq is the steal of the draft thus far. I think he’s top 5 for this draft.
Perfect!!Everyone’s on board the draft jet, we’ve taken off at an incredible pace, we’re all buckling in for a long trip.
Me in the sitting 16th spot
Per the first post:Just for future info, will there be a timer at some round?
Thanks. I should re-read those first few posts again lolPer the first post:
"Clock will be 1 hour from 7am Pacific to 6pm Pacific (West Coast Bias), starting Monday 3/8."
So theoretically, @Kev4029 could hold us hostage until Monday, but I think we may do something if he doesn't check in by tomorrow morning.
I sent him a PM in case an email notification might help.Per the first post:
"Clock will be 1 hour from 7am Pacific to 6pm Pacific (West Coast Bias), starting Monday 3/8."
So theoretically, @Kev4029 could hold us hostage until Monday, but I think we may do something if he doesn't check in by tomorrow morning.
I had as well. He may not get email notifications or is stuck at work or he may be passed out drunk or even high as a kite right now. Either way, I hope he is OK.I sent him a PM in case an email notification might help.
i think i see him on my lawn...I had as well. He may not get email notifications or is stuck at work or he may be passed out drunk or even high as a kite right now. Either way, I hope he is OK.
I'm gonna chirp from courtside. I was shocked he didn't go second. The others all have great cases, but damn...we're talking about greatness and longevity to boot, plus playing with athletes as big, fast, and as crazily athletic as the ones today, ones that span almost two generations while LeBron still LeBrons and is still, amazingly, one of the best at it by all accounts.Frostillicus said:1.06 PG/SF/PF Lebron James, 10s
I completely get all the arguments for the players taken before Lebron, it's part of the reason I wanted no part of pick #3 when I thought he'd go second. I actually dropped to 6 with the hopes of getting Magic. Obviously I'm thrilled to get who I consider the best player of all-time. He has the versatility to play multiple positions, slot into multiple eras, and fit in with just about anybody on the court. Yay me!
Damn. I had some tiny shred of hope that he’d end up with me and I’d just lock up a decade.
Nope, was hoping he’d be one of my two picks. Now I have to figure out what to do with my second pick.Damn. I had some tiny shred of hope that he’d end up with me and I’d just lock up a decade.
I'm not necessarily surprised that he wasn't #2, although that is definitely where I would have taken him, I'm blown away he dropped to #6. The only argument I could really make not to take him ahead of Wilt and Russell is that in this format there are a lot of really good players from the 10s whereas the the 60s are very shallow. I don't think there is a real argument to make for Magic or Kareem (especially since Kareem's longevity is a bit diluted in this format).I'm gonna chirp from courtside. I was shocked he didn't go second. The others all have great cases, but damn...we're talking about greatness and longevity to boot, plus playing with athletes as big, fast, and as crazily athletic as the ones today, ones that span almost two generations while LeBron still LeBrons and is still, amazingly, one of the best at it by all accounts.
The King.
I was a bit surprised to seem him still standing. I probably would have preferred to take somebody more relevant to my BB watching days, but I think there is a fairly significant gap between West and the remaining more modern guys. I was hoping Shaq or Duncan was going to fall.Damn. I had some tiny shred of hope that he’d end up with me and I’d just lock up a decade.
Heh. I should have been clearer. Shocked is just my way of registering my affirmation for the pick at six and I really wasn't all that surprised that he fell. It's really just by way of a lack of better expression. As soon as I saw Wilt, I thought, "Yeah, definitely could see that given the rules of the draft where you're drafting decades, too." Magic, Russ, Kareem. All worthy of all-time greatness. And I'm a casual basketball fan, too. When people are really into something, they tend to make picks that surprise the casual observer. Cool draft. Wish I knew I more and could participate.I'm not necessarily surprised that he wasn't #2, although that is definitely where I would have taken him, I'm blown away he dropped to #6. The only argument I could really make not to take him ahead of Wilt and Russell is that in this format there are a lot of really good players from the 10s whereas the the 60s are very shallow. I don't think there is a real argument to make for Magic or Kareem (especially since Kareem's longevity is a bit diluted in this format).
I took Moses 10th overall 10 years ago. One of the most underrated players in NBA history. He won three MVP awards around the time of Kareem, Bird and Magic.Ok time for the easy pick. Yo Mama selects:
1.16 - Moses Malone - 70s C
“Chairman of the Boards”
The last of my top tier big men (1a Wilt/Kareem, 1b Shaq/Hakeem/Moses), and I need to take one here before the 100 picks between my next turn. Criminally underrated in the all-time discussions. He could fit well in either the 70s or 80s, so I’ll start with him in the earlier decade for now.
Including ABA stats, Moses has 29,580 points (9th all time) and 17,834 rebounds (3rd all time). His career averages are excellent, but still lowered by his last number of years. In a 10 year peak from the mid 70s to mid 80s, Malone averaged 25.1 ppg, 14.2 rpg, 0.9 spg, and 1.5 bpg.
1x Champ and Finals MVP
3x NBA MVP
8x All-NBA
12x NBA all-star, 1x ABA all-star
Led NBA in rebounding 6 times
Now for my harder decision.
Somehow hoped he would slip through to me. That was probably stupid of me. Nice pick.Ok time for the easy pick. Yo Mama selects:
1.16 - Moses Malone - 70s C
“Chairman of the Boards”
The last of my top tier big men (1a Wilt/Kareem, 1b Shaq/Hakeem/Moses), and I need to take one here before the 100 picks between my next turn. Criminally underrated in the all-time discussions. He could fit well in either the 70s or 80s, so I’ll start with him in the earlier decade for now.
Including ABA stats, Moses has 29,580 points (9th all time) and 17,834 rebounds (3rd all time). His career averages are excellent, but still lowered by his last number of years. In a 10 year peak from the mid 70s to mid 80s, Malone averaged 25.1 ppg, 14.2 rpg, 0.9 spg, and 1.5 bpg.
1x Champ and Finals MVP
3x NBA MVP
8x All-NBA
12x NBA all-star, 1x ABA all-star
Led NBA in rebounding 6 times
Now for my harder decision.
He was one of two guys I was thinking about taking instead of Baylor, but I just couldn’t stomach it.2.02 Karl Malone, PF, 90s
First, Malone is a total turd of a human and I have no respect for the dude, but this is all for pretendsies. Malone was very arguably the second best player in the 90s, making First Team All-NBA for every year of the decade, plus a couple MVPS, and averaged 27.2 points, 10.7 rebounds and 3.7 assists for the decade while missing a total of three games over those 10 seasons. Probably not an all-time defender, but certainly a plus (4 All-Defense teams). He is 2nd all time in points, 3rd in rebounds, 12th in steals.
Baylor and M Malone would have both been my pick here if they weren't taken...
@scoobus
yeah i never watched the whole game, but heard the whole story about the altercation. Of course that was when Dr. J was at the tail end of his career and had been in the NBA for like 18 years or so i think. Cue the '83 Sixers and we see a totally different storyTo ignore the ABA seems like an odd omission for that 2010 draft. If interested, the book 'Loose Balls' by Terry Pluto is a great read about that league.
Hell yeah he would. To land Larry Bird at 1.09 when Bill has him at #6 in his pantheon is just good value with the franchise players here.
Just another reason why Larry Bird is the man. The Celtics were defending champions and that fight with Dr. J occurred after, "Bird had torched Erving and the Sixers for 42 points in 30 minutes (Dr. J had been held to six points) when an offensive foul call on Bird led to a scuffle that saw the benches empty and the two stars throw down." So, basically, Bird was kicking Dr. J's ### and he didn't like it. BTW - The Celtics also won that game 130-119.
Someone linked to it on the first page (about half way down)Anyone have a link to that old draft?
Good call asking for it. Brings a question I was wondering about to mind.Anyone have a link to that old draft?