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AMC's "The Killing" - Season 3 (1 Viewer)
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Trey
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The penultimate episode was so far superior to the 2 hour finale in my mind that it was a bit of a step back.
Certainly the best season of the show but still feel like the writer should hand over the reins when it comes to finale night.
snogger
Footballguy
Reddick called Skinner and told him Bullet was trying to get a hold of Holder because she knew who the killer was..
Skinner then takes her out.. There was plenty of things to call the writers out on but, IMO, this wasn't one of them.
snogger
Footballguy
I'd say the first hour was a "Red Herring" hour..
They basically gave it away that Reddick wasn't the killer the second they had Holder and Linden find the photo on the wall of Reddick with the first victim.
Then you just had to piece together the episode when Holder
Reddick out when he yelled" I told Skinner, I told Skinner!!All that was left was the final reveal and the second I saw Linden staring at Skinners daughter hugging him I knew they were going to zoom in on the ring.
The 2nd hour was great though, IMO. Really enjoyed the back and forth with Linden and Skinner.
The only part on the 2nd hour I was
about was Holder getting to the cabin at the same time they got to the back road.He was detained by IA for who knows how long.. Then has the confrontation with Reddick, then drives to Skinners house and asks about the Lake house.. and yet arrives right when they do.
I was pretty sure throughout most of the drive time that Adrain was dead in the trunk as I couldn't figure out Skinners end game.. Was kind of cool that the guy that was portrayed as a "bad cop" ended up being the one to figure out where Adrain was hiding.
The ending seemed to play homage to the Movie Seven.. right down to Holder's telling her "this is what he wants" and his response to Lindens shooting Skinner the 2nd time.
Overall definitely the best season and I hope there is a season 4.
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Otis
Footballguy
Re: the bolded, the whole drive up I was expecting this to happen, and it make sense. If you're skinner, you're not going to speed -- you don't want to risk getting pulled over under those circumstances. But Holder could double the speed limit the whole way up. So it's conceivable he could make the drive in half the time.I'd say the first hour was a "Red Herring" hour..
They basically gave it away that Reddick wasn't the killer the second they had Holder and Linden find the photo on the wall of Reddick with the first victim.
Then you just had to piece together the episode when Holder
All that was left was the final reveal and the second I saw Linden staring at Skinners daughter hugging him I knew they were going to zoom in on the ring.
The 2nd hour was great though, IMO. Really enjoyed the back and forth with Linden and Skinner.
The only part on the 2nd hour I was
He was detained by IA for who knows how long.. Then has the confrontation with Reddick, then drives to Skinners house and asks about the Lake house.. and yet arrives right when they do.
I was pretty sure throughout most of the drive time that Adrain was dead in the trunk as I couldn't figure out Skinners end game.. Was kind of cool that the guy that was portrayed as a "bad cop" ended up being the one to figure out where Adrain was hiding.
The ending seemed to play homage to the Movie Seven.. right down to Holder's telling her "this is what he wants" and his response to Lindens shooting Skinner the 2nd time.
Overall definitely the best season and I hope there is a season 4.
Maybe I am not clear - in that episode Bullet found out about the killer and then the killer finds Bullett within a few hours - at the time it was way too convenient - the odds of that being a random event are huge. Seemed like a weak point in the story at the time.
Reddick called Skinner and told him Bullet was trying to get a hold of Holder because she knew who the killer was..
Skinner then takes her out.. There was plenty of things to call the writers out on but, IMO, this wasn't one of them.
They tied it together with the explanation last night.
Not calling them out - recognizing that they resolved that point nicely.
They can easily wrap up last night as Linden has Skinner's gun. Could easily be dropped on Skinner to make it look like self defense.
Not thrilled about another season as I am not sure how varied you can make the story. Maybe if they dump Linden. If it's all Holder all the time, I am on board.
Not thrilled about another season as I am not sure how varied you can make the story. Maybe if they dump Linden. If it's all Holder all the time, I am on board.
Quite the impact last night.. It was one thing to see him drop.. yet another to watch him struggle.
So Ray showed up afterwards... Doesn't seem like Ray was covering for anyone.. He blamed himself for her death and was why he took the blame.. had he stayed like Adrian yelled at him to do she might still be alive.
I understand Adrian not wanting to speak as he blamed his dad.. or maybe he fears for his own life as they still haven't answered how he knew about the burial grounds in the swamp area.
If I recall he had a tree house in the back yard.. How far away is their house from the burial grounds??
Maybe he was in the tree house and witnessed someone dumping a body.. Killer saw him and Adrian knew he saw him which is why he was so angry at his dad leaving that night as he knew he was caught..
He hides in closet, killer shows up and threatens the mom to tell him where her son is or she is dead, she doesn't give him away and is killed.
we also still haven't found Kallie...
Previews show Holder and Linden figuring out something is a littleand that a cop may be in on it.. They also find a new body in the trunk of a burned car.. could be Kallie in her moms car??
If they decide to stick to the formula of the first "killing" maybe there are 3 people involved.. Cabbie, Reddick and Skinner...
2 hour finale next week
2 hour finale next week
Great episode. While they were driving up to the cabin, my wife and I were wondering how the hell he could have grabbed Adrian, went to the cabin, came back to get his kid from dance practice...then go home. Didn't even think about that he didn't have Adrian 
So I guess his plan was to just leave forever if Linden never came there? Or go to the lake and kill himself?
Crazy move by Linden killing him not knowing where/if there indeed are a bunch of other bodies as Skinner said.
So I guess his plan was to just leave forever if Linden never came there? Or go to the lake and kill himself?
Crazy move by Linden killing him not knowing where/if there indeed are a bunch of other bodies as Skinner said.
omally
Footballguy
They only had a 20 minute head start (remember Skinner's wife said they left 20 minutes ago), and they weren't speeding, and they even pulled over at one point, and got out of the car and Linden puked. It's very conceivable that Holder caught up.The only part on the 2nd hour I was
He was detained by IA for who knows how long.. Then has the confrontation with Reddick, then drives to Skinners house and asks about the Lake house.. and yet arrives right when they do.
snogger
Footballguy
Ah.. gotchaMaybe I am not clear - in that episode Bullet found out about the killer and then the killer finds Bullett within a few hours - at the time it was way too convenient - the odds of that being a random event are huge. Seemed like a weak point in the story at the time.
Reddick called Skinner and told him Bullet was trying to get a hold of Holder because she knew who the killer was..
Skinner then takes her out.. There was plenty of things to call the writers out on but, IMO, this wasn't one of them.
They tied it together with the explanation last night.
Not calling them out - recognizing that they resolved that point nicely.
snogger
Footballguy
They only had a 20 minute head start (remember Skinner's wife said they left 20 minutes ago), and they weren't speeding, and they even pulled over at one point, and got out of the car and Linden puked. It's very conceivable that Holder caught up.The only part on the 2nd hour I was
He was detained by IA for who knows how long.. Then has the confrontation with Reddick, then drives to Skinners house and asks about the Lake house.. and yet arrives right when they do.
somehow missed the "they left 20 minutes ago" ..Again, not knocking it too much as it allowed lots of conversation between Linden and Skinner which was intense and very well done.. Just was one of those "oh, isn't that convenient" moments..
Johnny Bing
Footballguy
Maybe he said it, but what was the significance of him cutting the ring fingers off?
Was it symbolic to say because they were overdosed prostitutes that they will never get married or be worthy of marriage?
Was it symbolic to say because they were overdosed prostitutes that they will never get married or be worthy of marriage?
snogger
Footballguy
Quite the impact last night.. It was one thing to see him drop.. yet another to watch him struggle.
So Ray showed up afterwards... Doesn't seem like Ray was covering for anyone.. He blamed himself for her death and was why he took the blame.. had he stayed like Adrian yelled at him to do she might still be alive.
I understand Adrian not wanting to speak as he blamed his dad.. or maybe he fears for his own life as they still haven't answered how he knew about the burial grounds in the swamp area.
If I recall he had a tree house in the back yard.. How far away is their house from the burial grounds??
Maybe he was in the tree house and witnessed someone dumping a body.. Killer saw him and Adrian knew he saw him which is why he was so angry at his dad leaving that night as he knew he was caught..
He hides in closet, killer shows up and threatens the mom to tell him where her son is or she is dead, she doesn't give him away and is killed.
we also still haven't found Kallie...
Previews show Holder and Linden figuring out something is a littleIf they decide to stick to the formula of the first "killing" maybe there are 3 people involved.. Cabbie, Reddick and Skinner...
2 hour finale next week
Well done
Was off on where the tree house was, just recalled Ray talking about it and thought it was in the back yard.. Then Linden mentioned there were no trees in the backyard where they lived AND the fact it was a mile away to the burial grounds..
Enjoyed how they started with the episode of her running alone in the woods.. and then used her past as a Foster child to tie it in with Adrian.
snogger
Footballguy
I assume that was the meaning behind it, but yea.. I don't recall him coming right out and saying why..
Johnny Bing
Footballguy
it will be interesting to see where season 4 starts from.
Will Holder and Linden cover up the shooting and make it self defense? Or will Linden turn into Hannibal Lector and solve murders from inside a maximum security prison?
Will Holder and Linden cover up the shooting and make it self defense? Or will Linden turn into Hannibal Lector and solve murders from inside a maximum security prison?
First thing I thought about when she was running through the woods at the beginning was Jodi Foster in Silence of the Lambs
bryhamm
Footballguy
Johnny Bing
Footballguy
Didn't he say she is in the lake at the cabin? He mentioned the lake is deep and cold and Linden asked if that is where Kalli is at.
He didn't remember her, but maybe goes to show how much of a monster he was that he lost track of all them.
snogger
Footballguy
He didn't remember her, but he said there were many more then the 21 and they were "dumped" in the Lake, as well other places, where they would never be found..
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Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
drummer
Footballguy
snogger
Footballguy
Read above....Linden's lover.. now you just need to decide if that is Holder or Skinner
Papa Georgio
Footballguy
This bothered me as well. I don't have problems with timelines and coincidences but it really was way out of character. For that matter I found all of her smiling this week a bit creepy and her being all warm and fuzzy. I know it was to set up her happiness for the final moments but it was just weird.Great episode. While they were driving up to the cabin, my wife and I were wondering how the hell he could have grabbed Adrian, went to the cabin, came back to get his kid from dance practice...then go home. Didn't even think about that he didn't have Adrian
So I guess his plan was to just leave forever if Linden never came there? Or go to the lake and kill himself?
Crazy move by Linden killing him not knowing where/if there indeed are a bunch of other bodies as Skinner said.
I don't think it's too out of character considered she was sleeping with him and trusted him. I took it as more of a "now he'll never be ever to get one over me again" or "I can't believe I slept with this monster". If it were anyone else she wouldn't have pulled the trigger.This bothered me as well. I don't have problems with timelines and coincidences but it really was way out of character. For that matter I found all of her smiling this week a bit creepy and her being all warm and fuzzy. I know it was to set up her happiness for the final moments but it was just weird.Great episode. While they were driving up to the cabin, my wife and I were wondering how the hell he could have grabbed Adrian, went to the cabin, came back to get his kid from dance practice...then go home. Didn't even think about that he didn't have Adrian
So I guess his plan was to just leave forever if Linden never came there? Or go to the lake and kill himself?
Crazy move by Linden killing him not knowing where/if there indeed are a bunch of other bodies as Skinner said.
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Correct - it was an emotional response.I don't think it's too out of character considered she was sleeping with him and trusted him. I took it as more of a "now he'll never be ever to get one over me again" or "I can't believe I slept with this monster". If it were anyone else she wouldn't have pulled the trigger.This bothered me as well. I don't have problems with timelines and coincidences but it really was way out of character. For that matter I found all of her smiling this week a bit creepy and her being all warm and fuzzy. I know it was to set up her happiness for the final moments but it was just weird.Great episode. While they were driving up to the cabin, my wife and I were wondering how the hell he could have grabbed Adrian, went to the cabin, came back to get his kid from dance practice...then go home. Didn't even think about that he didn't have Adrian
So I guess his plan was to just leave forever if Linden never came there? Or go to the lake and kill himself?
Crazy move by Linden killing him not knowing where/if there indeed are a bunch of other bodies as Skinner said.
Class Dismissed
Footballguy
My favorite part of the episode was Holder messing with IA.......maybe a set up for season 4
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Otis
Footballguy
I think it was just a passion killing. It WAS out of character for her, that's the point. Given everything she had already been put through, and the way her whole world had been turned upside down, she just lost it. Keep in mind this case haunted her for years and put her in the crazy house for a period. Now it all comes full circle and she learns all of this, it just devastated her. And in that moment when he mentioned there were lots of other bodies -- you can see the realization in her eyes when that possibility dawns on her -- and he confirms it, that was the straw that broke the camel's backI don't think it's too out of character considered she was sleeping with him and trusted him. I took it as more of a "now he'll never be ever to get one over me again" or "I can't believe I slept with this monster". If it were anyone else she wouldn't have pulled the trigger.This bothered me as well. I don't have problems with timelines and coincidences but it really was way out of character. For that matter I found all of her smiling this week a bit creepy and her being all warm and fuzzy. I know it was to set up her happiness for the final moments but it was just weird.Great episode. While they were driving up to the cabin, my wife and I were wondering how the hell he could have grabbed Adrian, went to the cabin, came back to get his kid from dance practice...then go home. Didn't even think about that he didn't have Adrian
So I guess his plan was to just leave forever if Linden never came there? Or go to the lake and kill himself?
Crazy move by Linden killing him not knowing where/if there indeed are a bunch of other bodies as Skinner said.
I think she puts up a temporary insanity defense and gets off.
NutterButter
Footballguy
Yeah, she's totally f'ed in the head. I don't see them covering it up. She's off to the nut house. I can see the next season without her with maybe just some cameos of Holder coming to visit her. Very good season.Correct - it was an emotional response.I don't think it's too out of character considered she was sleeping with him and trusted him. I took it as more of a "now he'll never be ever to get one over me again" or "I can't believe I slept with this monster". If it were anyone else she wouldn't have pulled the trigger.This bothered me as well. I don't have problems with timelines and coincidences but it really was way out of character. For that matter I found all of her smiling this week a bit creepy and her being all warm and fuzzy. I know it was to set up her happiness for the final moments but it was just weird.Great episode. While they were driving up to the cabin, my wife and I were wondering how the hell he could have grabbed Adrian, went to the cabin, came back to get his kid from dance practice...then go home. Didn't even think about that he didn't have Adrian
So I guess his plan was to just leave forever if Linden never came there? Or go to the lake and kill himself?
Crazy move by Linden killing him not knowing where/if there indeed are a bunch of other bodies as Skinner said.
NutterButter
Footballguy
I forget, but how did Joe Mills get Cali's phone?
snogger
Footballguy
Last we saw of her he was filming her "porn" flick.. So guessing she left it behind afterwards..
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Meh. Season 3 was much better than the other two but the show never moved from "good" to "very good".
drfeelgood
Footballguy
Linden did kill her ex-partner at the end of season 3, and Holder tried to get her to stop. Season 4 is only going to be 6 episodes. You don't have to watch.
Ash
Footballguy
I'll watch. I thought S3 was good. I think the show (not unfairly) locked out some of the viewers it started with by the lack of plot movement and gratuitous red herrings in S1. From there on I thought they picked it up pretty well, but a lot of had written it off. I like Holder better than Linden as a character too, wouldn't be a bad thing if her role was reduced.
Fariq
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