American held hostage by al Qaeda appeals to Obama... (1 Viewer)

[Fennis]

Has Obama signed the surrender papers yet to the Taliban?

Yes. We are trading you for a goat.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Here's the cnn interview with the solider that served with Bergdahl. He is not a fan.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/06/02/soldier_who_served_with_bergdahl_at_best_a_deserter_and_at_worst_a_traitor.html

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

What happened to the 30 day notice to Congress that is required by law? This couldn't still have happened in 30 days?

Pretty idiotic that Congress be involved in this kind of thing anyway.

What happened to the 30 day notice to Congress that is required by law? This couldn't still have happened in 30 days?

This country loves a strong executive and weak legislative branch. When Obama signed the provisioned, he added that he has flexibility to the 30 days. He exercised that flexibility. Congress will do nothing and the next president will do the same thing.

As we have long said, however, we would not make any decisions about transfer of any detainees without consulting with Congress and without doing so in accordance with U.S. law.

s/ Jay Carney

 

[Pots]

Does anyone think that the entire truth to this deal is what's been reported? That the administration would do this deal for this soldier? There was something else in this deal that isn't going to be reported that Obama wanted bad enough to have all of this happen (and make himself look even weak in the process). We don't know what it is, and we likely will never know, but this doesn't happen on face value. Something else was involved.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Has Obama signed the surrender papers yet to the Taliban?

Yes. We are trading you for a goat.

We're getting robbed.

 

[mr roboto]

Does anyone think that the entire truth to this deal is what's been reported? That the administration would do this deal for this soldier? There was something else in this deal that isn't going to be reported that Obama wanted bad enough to have all of this happen (and make himself look even weak in the process). We don't know what it is, and we likely will never know, but this doesn't happen on face value. Something else was involved.

Absolutely. This move is inexplicable otherwise.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Has Obama signed the surrender papers yet to the Taliban?

Yes. We are trading you for a goat.

They're getting robbed.

Fixed

 

[Pots]

Does anyone think that the entire truth to this deal is what's been reported? That the administration would do this deal for this soldier? There was something else in this deal that isn't going to be reported that Obama wanted bad enough to have all of this happen (and make himself look even weak in the process). We don't know what it is, and we likely will never know, but this doesn't happen on face value. Something else was involved.

Absolutely. This move is inexplicable otherwise.

Exactly. The soldier being released was a throw in to be used to explain why the hell we released these terrorists. The real question is what the hell was so important that not only made Obama willing to look even weaker than he did previously, but give 5 of the most dangerous men we had in custody up. Conspiracy theorists are likely to have a field day on this one.

 

[timschochet]

I made the point earlier that a lot more was involved, but it's no conspiracy. There are delicate negotiations that have to be achieved to insure our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Now this soldier sounds like a loser, a deserter, and/or an idealistic fool. But he was a POW and as such it was an important point of honor to free him.

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

What happened to the 30 day notice to Congress that is required by law? This couldn't still have happened in 30 days?

Pretty idiotic that Congress be involved in this kind of thing anyway.

Pretty idiotic that Josh Gordon is getting suspended for a year for smoking weed but, you know, rules n junk.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

You're delusional

 

[avoiding injuries]

Based on that logic, we should implement the "Catch and Release" program when we capture terrorists.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I made the point earlier that a lot more was involved, but it's no conspiracy. There are delicate negotiations that have to be achieved to insure our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Now this soldier sounds like a loser, a deserter, and/or an idealistic fool. But he was a POW and as such it was an important point of honor to free him.

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

Which is why they were so eager to get them back and so joyous upon their return.

 

[Soonerman]

I made the point earlier that a lot more was involved, but it's no conspiracy. There are delicate negotiations that have to be achieved to insure our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Now this soldier sounds like a loser, a deserter, and/or an idealistic fool. But he was a POW and as such it was an important point of honor to free him.

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

So you would be up for these 5 guys to move in next door to you then? After all, what possible difference could it make?

 

[avoiding injuries]

I made the point earlier that a lot more was involved, but it's no conspiracy. There are delicate negotiations that have to be achieved to insure our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Now this soldier sounds like a loser, a deserter, and/or an idealistic fool. But he was a POW and as such it was an important point of honor to free him.

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

So you would be up for these 5 guys to move in next door to you then? After all, what possible difference could it make?

You don't understand. Their infrastructure is destroyed.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Based on that logic, we should implement the "Catch and Release" program when we capture terrorists.

We pretty much did that for 5 years in Iraq. Doesnt work.

 

[Pots]

I made the point earlier that a lot more was involved, but it's no conspiracy. There are delicate negotiations that have to be achieved to insure our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Now this soldier sounds like a loser, a deserter, and/or an idealistic fool. But he was a POW and as such it was an important point of honor to free him.

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

The likely fact that there is something more to this deal is going to give the theorists ammo to come up with their own reasons. That's all I was saying. There's something else that triggered this deal that has nothing to do with the POW.

Does anyone else feel like this is one of those trades made by the commissioner that would have the rest of the league barking for a veto?

 

[Todd Andrews]

I made the point earlier that a lot more was involved, but it's no conspiracy. There are delicate negotiations that have to be achieved to insure our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Now this soldier sounds like a loser, a deserter, and/or an idealistic fool. But he was a POW and as such it was an important point of honor to free him.

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

Which is why they were so eager to get them back and so joyous upon their return.

You seem to put a lot of stock in what terrorists think and feel.

 

[dozer]

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

You're delusional

You're delusional if you think these five old bastards are going to make us any less safe.

At least now there is a chance to see them killed after they get in with a group and we drone their asses.

 

[timschochet]

You guys are missing the point about what makes certain terrorists (and terrorists groups) more dangerous than others. You're also not distinguishing between the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I made the point earlier that a lot more was involved, but it's no conspiracy. There are delicate negotiations that have to be achieved to insure our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Now this soldier sounds like a loser, a deserter, and/or an idealistic fool. But he was a POW and as such it was an important point of honor to free him.

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

Which is why they were so eager to get them back and so joyous upon their return.

You seem to put a lot of stock in what terrorists think and feel.

That was the Obama administration's assessment I was referring to. They're the ones who put them down as "high risk."

 

[avoiding injuries]

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

You're delusional

You're delusional if you think these five old bastards are going to make us any less safe.At least now there is a chance to see them killed after they get in with a group and we drone their asses.

The video I posted earlier said they were all in their 40's. Seems like that could be the prime age for terrorism.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Does anyone think that the entire truth to this deal is what's been reported? That the administration would do this deal for this soldier? There was something else in this deal that isn't going to be reported that Obama wanted bad enough to have all of this happen (and make himself look even weak in the process). We don't know what it is, and we likely will never know, but this doesn't happen on face value. Something else was involved.

Absolutely. This move is inexplicable otherwise.

I hope that's the case. This looks like a complete cluster#### otherwise. Chris Matthews was just (relatively speaking) ripping the administration over this a moment ago on MSNBC; he's not exactly an implacable enemy of Obama.

Edit: It goes without saying that I am 100% in favor of instantly drone-striking all five of these guys as soon as the opportunity presents itself.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

You're delusional

You're delusional if you think these five old bastards are going to make us any less safe.

At least now there is a chance to see them killed after they get in with a group and we drone their asses.

Mullah Norullah Noori is a 46- or 47-year-old citizen of Afghanistan.

You guys are missing the point about what makes certain terrorists (and terrorists groups) more dangerous than others. You're also not distinguishing between the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

Assessment: Detainee is assessed to be a HIGH risk, as he is likely to pose a threat to the US, its interests and allies. b. (S//NF) Reasons for Continued Detention: Detainee is an admitted senior member of the Taliban and led troops against US and Coalition forces. Detainee was directly subordinate to Taliban Supreme Leader Mullah Omar, commanded Taliban forces in northern Afghanistan, and in late 2001, he was in charge of Taliban troops positioned near Mazar-e-Sharif. Detainee is wanted by the UN for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiites. Detainee is also associated with members of al-Qaida, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) and the Hezb-EIslami Gulbuddin (HIG).

http://projects.nytimes.com/guantanamo/detainees/6-mullah-norullah-noori

That's Pres. Obama's Dept. of Defense speaking.

Etc.

 

[dozer]

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

You're delusional

You're delusional if you think these five old bastards are going to make us any less safe.At least now there is a chance to see them killed after they get in with a group and we drone their asses.

The video I posted earlier said they were all in their 40's. Seems like that could be the prime age for terrorism.

Sure, they could strap on a backpack full of explosives like so many others are willing to do, but they aren't a bunch of super terrorists anymore. They all have drone targets on their heads.

 

[timschochet]

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

You're delusional

You're delusional if you think these five old bastards are going to make us any less safe.At least now there is a chance to see them killed after they get in with a group and we drone their asses.

The video I posted earlier said they were all in their 40's. Seems like that could be the prime age for terrorism.

But it isn't. People willing to be martyrs tend to be much younger and idealistic. These guys are more dangerous as planners- except that the Taliban already has plenty of planners. What they lack these days is an army of youths to carry out their guerilla warfare, and they lack the weapons as well, because we destroyed them. Are they capable of striking in this country with a terrorist attack? They never were. al-Qaeda IS capable of attacking us; that's why we need the NSA.

 

[mr roboto]

I'm a conservative but not to the extreme that I think OMGZ!!!!!! OBAMA HATEZ 'MURICA!!1! But this is going to play real nicely into those hyper right-wing circle jerks.

 

[timschochet]

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

You're delusional

You're delusional if you think these five old bastards are going to make us any less safe.At least now there is a chance to see them killed after they get in with a group and we drone their asses.

Mullah Norullah Noori is a 46- or 47-year-old citizen of Afghanistan.

You guys are missing the point about what makes certain terrorists (and terrorists groups) more dangerous than others. You're also not distinguishing between the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

Assessment: Detainee is assessed to be a HIGH risk, as he is likely to pose a threat to the US, its interests and allies. b. (S//NF) Reasons for Continued Detention: Detainee is an admitted senior member of the Taliban and led troops against US and Coalition forces. Detainee was directly subordinate to Taliban Supreme Leader Mullah Omar, commanded Taliban forces in northern Afghanistan, and in late 2001, he was in charge of Taliban troops positioned near Mazar-e-Sharif. Detainee is wanted by the UN for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiites. Detainee is also associated with members of al-Qaida, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) and the Hezb-EIslami Gulbuddin (HIG).

http://projects.nytimes.com/guantanamo/detainees/6-mullah-norullah-noori

Etc.

They're all associated with each other. But the Taliban is a guerilla army in Afghanistan. al-Qaeda is an international terrorist group.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

You're delusional

You're delusional if you think these five old bastards are going to make us any less safe.At least now there is a chance to see them killed after they get in with a group and we drone their asses.

Mullah Norullah Noori is a 46- or 47-year-old citizen of Afghanistan.

You guys are missing the point about what makes certain terrorists (and terrorists groups) more dangerous than others. You're also not distinguishing between the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

Assessment: Detainee is assessed to be a HIGH risk, as he is likely to pose a threat to the US, its interests and allies. b. (S//NF) Reasons for Continued Detention: Detainee is an admitted senior member of the Taliban and led troops against US and Coalition forces. Detainee was directly subordinate to Taliban Supreme Leader Mullah Omar, commanded Taliban forces in northern Afghanistan, and in late 2001, he was in charge of Taliban troops positioned near Mazar-e-Sharif. Detainee is wanted by the UN for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiites. Detainee is also associated with members of al-Qaida, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) and the Hezb-EIslami Gulbuddin (HIG).

http://projects.nytimes.com/guantanamo/detainees/6-mullah-norullah-noori

Etc.

They're all associated with each other. But the Taliban is a guerilla army in Afghanistan. al-Qaeda is an international terrorist group.

The Taliban is a guerrilla army in Afghanistan but also the former government and army of Afghanistan itself, with plans to return, while AQ is an international terrorist group based in Afghanistan and Pakistan which the Taliban protects militarily and gives all kinds of support to.

 

[Todd Andrews]

I made the point earlier that a lot more was involved, but it's no conspiracy. There are delicate negotiations that have to be achieved to insure our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Now this soldier sounds like a loser, a deserter, and/or an idealistic fool. But he was a POW and as such it was an important point of honor to free him.

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

Which is why they were so eager to get them back and so joyous upon their return.

You seem to put a lot of stock in what terrorists think and feel.

That was the Obama administration's assessment I was referring to. They're the ones who put them down as "high risk."

So you were using the administration assessment to bolster your terrorist fanboyism?

Who cares what the Taliban thinks about these old (they are all at around the end of the life expectancy for Afghan men) loser Taliban goofs? They are dead whenever we want. It is stunning you guys are all about trying to figure out how to leave an American soldier in Taliban captivity--hes not a real American!--and looking for political points to score from our government freeing him.

Vile.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

You're delusional

You're delusional if you think these five old bastards are going to make us any less safe.At least now there is a chance to see them killed after they get in with a group and we drone their asses.

Keep drinking the koolaid.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I made the point earlier that a lot more was involved, but it's no conspiracy. There are delicate negotiations that have to be achieved to insure our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Now this soldier sounds like a loser, a deserter, and/or an idealistic fool. But he was a POW and as such it was an important point of honor to free him.

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

Which is why they were so eager to get them back and so joyous upon their return.

You seem to put a lot of stock in what terrorists think and feel.

That was the Obama administration's assessment I was referring to. They're the ones who put them down as "high risk."

So you were using the administration assessment to bolster your terrorist fanboyism?

Who cares what the Taliban thinks about these old (they are all at around the end of the life expectancy for Afghan men) loser Taliban goofs? They are dead whenever we want. It is stunning you guys are all about trying to figure out how to leave an American soldier in Taliban captivity--hes not a real American!--and looking for political points to score from our government freeing him.

Vile.

Hm.

I was just addressing Tim's comment that the Taliban 5 are meaningless in terms of efficacy.

The rest is all you.

I'm glad the guy is back, but the reality is it's some (not all) Obama supporters who are rushing to gloss all sorts of narrative onto this thing and seek to obscure the facts.

The facts are Bergdahl deserted his post and these are 5 mass murdering, torturing, fascist, women-hating, leaders of thousands who mean to wreak harm on tens of thousands to millions of fellow Afghans, including our allies who have stood with us and relied upon us, and Americans. One of these guys, just as an example, oversaw the execution of 8,000+ people.

Mullah Norullah Noori, who is around the same age, was a Taliban military commander stationed in the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif during the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in 2001. Like Fazl, he is implicated in the murders of thousands of Afghan Shiites who opposed the Taliban.

His detainee notes state: 'When asked about the murders, (Noori) didn't express any regret and stated they did what they needed to do in their struggle to establish their ideal state.'

The Taliban used to stage public executions in Kabul's soccer stadium, forcing anyone who spoke out against the regime to kneel at the goalposts as crowds watched them be either stoned or shot dead at close range.

http://www.coloradonewsday.com/news/regional/60791-a-mass-killer-bin-laden-s-friend-and-an-opium-drug-lord-anger-grows-over-release-of-hardened-terrorists-for-america-s-only-pow-as-hagel-insists-bergdahl-s-life-was-in-danger.html

And the administration broke the law in doing it.

If you think all that sounds like an appropriate move, then fine say so.

The deal should stand on its own without having to resort to this stuff. Apparently it can't.

 

[3C's]

Has Obama signed the surrender papers yet to the Taliban?

Yes. We are trading you for a goat.

We're getting robbed.

No way man, we're getting a goat!

 

[Todd Andrews]

I made the point earlier that a lot more was involved, but it's no conspiracy. There are delicate negotiations that have to be achieved to insure our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Now this soldier sounds like a loser, a deserter, and/or an idealistic fool. But he was a POW and as such it was an important point of honor to free him.

As for releasing 5 members of the Taliban, it's meaningless in terms of security. We could release 500 members of the Taliban and it would make no difference, because their infrastructure has been destroyed.

Which is why they were so eager to get them back and so joyous upon their return.

You seem to put a lot of stock in what terrorists think and feel.

That was the Obama administration's assessment I was referring to. They're the ones who put them down as "high risk."

So you were using the administration assessment to bolster your terrorist fanboyism?

Who cares what the Taliban thinks about these old (they are all at around the end of the life expectancy for Afghan men) loser Taliban goofs? They are dead whenever we want. It is stunning you guys are all about trying to figure out how to leave an American soldier in Taliban captivity--hes not a real American!--and looking for political points to score from our government freeing him.

Vile.

Hm.

I was just addressing Tim's comment that the Taliban 5 are meaningless in terms of efficacy.

The rest is all you.

I'm glad the guy is back, but the reality is it's some (not all) Obama supporters who are rushing to gloss all sorts of narrative onto this thing and seek to obscure the facts.

The facts are Bergdahl deserted his post and these are 5 mass murdering, torturing, fascist, women-hating, leaders of thousands who mean to wreak harm on tens of thousands to millions of fellow Afghans, including our allies who have stood with us and relied upon us, and Americans.

And the administration broke the law in doing it.

If you think all that sounds like an appropriate move, then fine say so.

The deal should stand on its own without having to resort to this stuff. Apparently it can't.

No, the rest is not all me. Tim was obviously right that five Taliban idiots dont mean anything in the greater scheme of things and pose no threat whatsover to our country. Only a paranoid deluded loon or someone with ulterior partisan political motives would think so, or pretend to think so.

You have a strange definition of "facts". Show me the proof that Bergdahl "deserted his post"--I am not claiming he did or didnt, but you seem privy to some evidence the rest of the world hasnt seen. That is a very serious charge.

You also dont know what the word "fascist" means, but we can let that go in the face of your other strange claims, such as that the administration broke the law in doing this deal. Which law(s) and how? Please explain in detail and make sure to include the penalties they will surely incur. Were they felonies? Because if so, we must start impeachment proceedings.

Of course I think giving five Taliban goofs back for an American soldier is a good idea. You are the one who thinks Americans should remain in captivity with terrorists, not me. The deal more than stands on its own. I would give 10 or 20 Taliban nimrods for one American soldier POW, whether or not he has questionable ideas or not, or was a good soldier or not, or was against the war in Afghanistan or not.

 

[jon_mx]

5 people hellbent on getting revenge at any cost can pose a significant risk, no matter what our subject-matter expert Tim wishes to opine.

 

[Todd Andrews]

5 people hellbent on getting revenge at any cost can pose a significant risk, no matter what out subject-matter expert Tim wishes to opine.

Ridiculous. It is that type of weakminded fearful thinking that created a gabillion dollar neofascist Homeland Security Dept./NSA and has a TSA arm jammed elbow deep up your rectum. Thank you for that.

Those five cavemen couldnt pose a threat to us if we let them loose in New York City on their donkeys with their rusty old AK 47s.

 

[MaxThreshold]

5 people hellbent on getting revenge at any cost can pose a significant risk, no matter what out subject-matter expert Tim wishes to opine.

Ridiculous. It is that type of weakminded fearful thinking that created a gabillion dollar neofascist Homeland Security Dept./NSA and has a TSA arm jammed elbow deep up your rectum. Thank you for that.

Those five cavemen couldnt pose a threat to us if we let them loose in New York City on their donkeys with their rusty old AK 47s.

Wow.

Poor Todd, just can't stand to see anything negative about his precious Dear Leader Obama. Defending him until the end.

And you don't think that the Taliban getting some of their command and control back isn't a risk? You're either a Taliban sympathizer or incredibly stupid.

 

[Todd Andrews]

5 people hellbent on getting revenge at any cost can pose a significant risk, no matter what out subject-matter expert Tim wishes to opine.

Ridiculous. It is that type of weakminded fearful thinking that created a gabillion dollar neofascist Homeland Security Dept./NSA and has a TSA arm jammed elbow deep up your rectum. Thank you for that.

Those five cavemen couldnt pose a threat to us if we let them loose in New York City on their donkeys with their rusty old AK 47s.

Wow.

Poor Todd, just can't stand to see anything negative about his precious Dear Leader Obama. Defending him until the end.

And you don't think that the Taliban getting some of their command and control back isn't a risk?

Yawn. Im not defending Obama, I am defending getting US POWs back from our enemies. Obviously, that doesnt matter to you.

Taliban command and control? lol, youve got be kidding me. We can kill them whenever we want and I dont worry too much about drone fodder.

So you dont think we should have done this deal?

 

[jon_mx]

5 people hellbent on getting revenge at any cost can pose a significant risk, no matter what out subject-matter expert Tim wishes to opine.

Ridiculous. It is that type of weakminded fearful thinking that created a gabillion dollar neofascist Homeland Security Dept./NSA and has a TSA arm jammed elbow deep up your rectum. Thank you for that.

Those five cavemen couldnt pose a threat to us if we let them loose in New York City on their donkeys with their rusty old AK 47s.

How many hellbent wackos did it take to fly a jet into tower 1 of the World Trade Center?

 

[Billy Bats]

You have a strange definition of "facts". Show me the proof that Bergdahl "deserted his post"--I am not claiming he did or didnt, but you seem privy to some evidence the rest of the world hasnt seen. That is a very serious charge.

Serious questions, do you know anything about this story, have you read any of this thread, or clicked on any of the links that have been provided?

 

[MaxThreshold]

You have a strange definition of "facts". Show me the proof that Bergdahl "deserted his post"--I am not claiming he did or didnt, but you seem privy to some evidence the rest of the world hasnt seen. That is a very serious charge.

Serious questions, do you know anything about this story, have you read any of this thread, or clicked on any of the links that have been provided?

You must have missed this earlier. Todd falls under this category - although you may hear him claim that he's an "independent". Don't fall for the lies.

 

[ArbyMelt]

Anyone else defending Obama besides Tim and Todd Andrews. Obamakoolaidkooks

 

[Todd Andrews]

5 people hellbent on getting revenge at any cost can pose a significant risk, no matter what out subject-matter expert Tim wishes to opine.

Ridiculous. It is that type of weakminded fearful thinking that created a gabillion dollar neofascist Homeland Security Dept./NSA and has a TSA arm jammed elbow deep up your rectum. Thank you for that.

Those five cavemen couldnt pose a threat to us if we let them loose in New York City on their donkeys with their rusty old AK 47s.

How many hellbent wackos did it take to fly a jet into tower 1 of the World Trade Center?

Like I said, I thank you for the TSA and the incredible bloated Homeland Security/NSA agency and all that it does.

 

[Todd Andrews]

So which of you think we shouldnt have done the deal and should leave US POWs with the Taliban?

 

[timschochet]

Anyone else defending Obama besides Tim and Todd Andrews. Obamakoolaidkooks

My biggest issue with Todd is that he writes stuff like this far too much. How about if you disagree with something I've written, you explain your reasons for doing so? And then we can have a discussion and debate. We can do it respectfully without name calling.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

So which of you think we shouldnt have done the deal and should leave US POWs with the Taliban?

Me, based on the information available to me at the moment.

 

[mr roboto]

So which of you think we shouldnt have done the deal and should leave US POWs with the Taliban?

Me, based on the information available to me at the moment.

Agreed.

 

[dozer]

These guys have been kicking around a soccer ball in a caged area the size of my basement for a decade and a half. I doubt they are going to jump back into leadership roles. There are no shortages of evil geniuses.

 

[Todd Andrews]

So which of you think we shouldnt have done the deal and should leave US POWs with the Taliban?

Me, based on the information available to me at the moment.

So what would it take for you to want to get a US POW released by the Taliban under these terms? I am letting you create your own hypothetical and add the necessary information you think is missing in this case.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

So which of you think we shouldnt have done the deal and should leave US POWs with the Taliban?

Me

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Staff Sergeant Clayton Bowen, 29

Private First Class Morris Walker, 23

Staff Sergeant Kurt Curtiss, 27

Staff Sergeant Michael Murphrey, 25,

Lt Darryn Andrews, 34

These soldiers were killed looking for this traitor and piece of #### deserter. You and Tim try and tell them this deal makes your #### hard for Obama