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How and why did this thread get started?

How and why did this thread get started?
When was the last time Brady won a superbowl? When was the last time Rodgers won a superbowl? Your analysis was simplistic and so was mine.'devouredbychaos said:17 playoff wins.Blame it all on your D Pack homers, but when the game is on the line there's only one guy I would want, and that's Tom Brady. Rodgers was good last night, but he wasn't great like Brady was today![]()
And that's why Rodgers and Brady are both way better than Montana. Montana hasn't won a superbowl in decades.When was the last time Brady won a superbowl? When was the last time Rodgers won a superbowl? Your analysis was simplistic and so was mine.'devouredbychaos said:17 playoff wins.Blame it all on your D Pack homers, but when the game is on the line there's only one guy I would want, and that's Tom Brady. Rodgers was good last night, but he wasn't great like Brady was today![]()
/threadAnd that's why Rodgers and Brady are both way better than Montana. Montana hasn't won a superbowl in decades.When was the last time Brady won a superbowl? When was the last time Rodgers won a superbowl? Your analysis was simplistic and so was mine.'devouredbychaos said:17 playoff wins.Blame it all on your D Pack homers, but when the game is on the line there's only one guy I would want, and that's Tom Brady. Rodgers was good last night, but he wasn't great like Brady was today![]()
Exactly. No one would argue that Rodgers has had a better career at this point. But Rodgers has been the better quarterback the last two years. Some will point to the fact that Brady is playing next week and Rodgers is not as some kind of proof otherwise, but no QB is NFL history is gonna win playoff games when his defense gives up an average of 44 points a game (which is what GB's D has given up per game in his three playoff losses in '09, '11 and '12).Wait, what debate are we having here? Who is more accomplished? Obviously Brady has the edge there, although having been a starter in this league for more than twice as long as Rodgers helps.'General Tso said:It's a silly debate that never had any merit to begin with. Rodgers doesn't even get to be in the conversation until he does a LOT more. Right now there is nobody in Brady's class. He just keeps doing it, year after year after year. He loses Gronkowski and Woodhead, two guys who he even admitted afterward were KEY ELEMENTS in their gameplan today, and he still gets it done. There's no excuses with the guy. He really makes being a fan of his very easy.
Well, in one breath you want to focus on recent history, but then you throw in excuses for Rodgers losing playoff games in 09.I'll make it simple for you. Rodgers had one outstanding, spectacular year - and he deservingly won the MVP Award for it. This year he was good, but definitely not MVP caliber and, in my opinion, not as good as Tom Brady. And that goes for regular and postseason.Exactly. No one would argue that Rodgers has had a better career at this point. But Rodgers has been the better quarterback the last two years. Some will point to the fact that Brady is playing next week and Rodgers is not as some kind of proof otherwise, but no QB is NFL history is gonna win playoff games when his defense gives up an average of 44 points a game (which is what GB's D has given up per game in his three playoff losses in '09, '11 and '12).Wait, what debate are we having here? Who is more accomplished? Obviously Brady has the edge there, although having been a starter in this league for more than twice as long as Rodgers helps.'General Tso said:It's a silly debate that never had any merit to begin with. Rodgers doesn't even get to be in the conversation until he does a LOT more. Right now there is nobody in Brady's class. He just keeps doing it, year after year after year. He loses Gronkowski and Woodhead, two guys who he even admitted afterward were KEY ELEMENTS in their gameplan today, and he still gets it done. There's no excuses with the guy. He really makes being a fan of his very easy.
Rodgers was much better than "good" this season. He was 2nd in the NFL with 39 TD passes with only 8 INTs. His passer rating of 108 was the best in the NFL. He was 3rd in completion percentage at 67.2% and 8th in yards with 4,295. He may not be the MVP of the league but calling his season only "good" is wrong.Well, in one breath you want to focus on recent history, but then you throw in excuses for Rodgers losing playoff games in 09.I'll make it simple for you. Rodgers had one outstanding, spectacular year - and he deservingly won the MVP Award for it. This year he was good, but definitely not MVP caliber and, in my opinion, not as good as Tom Brady. And that goes for regular and postseason.Exactly. No one would argue that Rodgers has had a better career at this point. But Rodgers has been the better quarterback the last two years. Some will point to the fact that Brady is playing next week and Rodgers is not as some kind of proof otherwise, but no QB is NFL history is gonna win playoff games when his defense gives up an average of 44 points a game (which is what GB's D has given up per game in his three playoff losses in '09, '11 and '12).Wait, what debate are we having here? Who is more accomplished? Obviously Brady has the edge there, although having been a starter in this league for more than twice as long as Rodgers helps.'General Tso said:It's a silly debate that never had any merit to begin with. Rodgers doesn't even get to be in the conversation until he does a LOT more. Right now there is nobody in Brady's class. He just keeps doing it, year after year after year. He loses Gronkowski and Woodhead, two guys who he even admitted afterward were KEY ELEMENTS in their gameplan today, and he still gets it done. There's no excuses with the guy. He really makes being a fan of his very easy.
And did so with a bad Oline (that did get better...but was still not great) and for most of the season either no run game, or a coach who continues to give up on the run at times.Rodgers was much better than "good" this season. He was 2nd in the NFL with 39 TD passes with only 8 INTs. His passer rating of 108 was the best in the NFL. He was 3rd in completion percentage at 67.2% and 8th in yards with 4,295. He may not be the MVP of the league but calling his season only "good" is wrong.Well, in one breath you want to focus on recent history, but then you throw in excuses for Rodgers losing playoff games in 09.I'll make it simple for you. Rodgers had one outstanding, spectacular year - and he deservingly won the MVP Award for it. This year he was good, but definitely not MVP caliber and, in my opinion, not as good as Tom Brady. And that goes for regular and postseason.Exactly. No one would argue that Rodgers has had a better career at this point. But Rodgers has been the better quarterback the last two years. Some will point to the fact that Brady is playing next week and Rodgers is not as some kind of proof otherwise, but no QB is NFL history is gonna win playoff games when his defense gives up an average of 44 points a game (which is what GB's D has given up per game in his three playoff losses in '09, '11 and '12).Wait, what debate are we having here? Who is more accomplished? Obviously Brady has the edge there, although having been a starter in this league for more than twice as long as Rodgers helps.'General Tso said:It's a silly debate that never had any merit to begin with. Rodgers doesn't even get to be in the conversation until he does a LOT more. Right now there is nobody in Brady's class. He just keeps doing it, year after year after year. He loses Gronkowski and Woodhead, two guys who he even admitted afterward were KEY ELEMENTS in their gameplan today, and he still gets it done. There's no excuses with the guy. He really makes being a fan of his very easy.
The point of my post was to use a very flawed statistic to compare the 2 QBs (just like the original poster). Glad you were able to pick up on it.....And that's why Rodgers and Brady are both way better than Montana. Montana hasn't won a superbowl in decades.When was the last time Brady won a superbowl? When was the last time Rodgers won a superbowl? Your analysis was simplistic and so was mine.'devouredbychaos said:17 playoff wins.Blame it all on your D Pack homers, but when the game is on the line there's only one guy I would want, and that's Tom Brady. Rodgers was good last night, but he wasn't great like Brady was today![]()
Unfortunately he doesn't want to be your boyfriend but keep hoping.'devouredbychaos said:17 playoff wins.Blame it all on your D Pack homers, but when the game is on the line there's only one guy I would want, and that's Tom Brady. Rodgers was good last night, but he wasn't great like Brady was today![]()
I know hearing the truth makes you upset. I'd be jealous too.Unfortunately he doesn't want to be your boyfriend but keep hoping.'devouredbychaos said:17 playoff wins.Blame it all on your D Pack homers, but when the game is on the line there's only one guy I would want, and that's Tom Brady. Rodgers was good last night, but he wasn't great like Brady was today![]()
The point of my post was to use a very flawed statistic to compare the 2 QBs (just like the original poster). Glad you were able to pick up on it.....And that's why Rodgers and Brady are both way better than Montana. Montana hasn't won a superbowl in decades.When was the last time Brady won a superbowl? When was the last time Rodgers won a superbowl? Your analysis was simplistic and so was mine.'devouredbychaos said:17 playoff wins.Blame it all on your D Pack homers, but when the game is on the line there's only one guy I would want, and that's Tom Brady. Rodgers was good last night, but he wasn't great like Brady was today![]()
At least Brady will get you further in the playoffsI'll take Rodgers 100 times out of 100.
Pats fans seem to be stretching it thinner than ever.At least Brady will get you further in the playoffsI'll take Rodgers 100 times out of 100.![]()
LolAnd that is why Flacco is better than Brady.
Rodgers would have run for that first down in the 4th.'devouredbychaos said:At least Brady will get you further in the playoffs'Raider Nation said:I'll take Rodgers 100 times out of 100.![]()
With ease.My God, you have to time Brady with a calendar.Rodgers would have run for that first down in the 4th.'devouredbychaos said:At least Brady will get you further in the playoffs'Raider Nation said:I'll take Rodgers 100 times out of 100.![]()
With ease.My God, you have to time Brady with a calendar.Rodgers would have run for that first down in the 4th.'devouredbychaos said:At least Brady will get you further in the playoffs'Raider Nation said:I'll take Rodgers 100 times out of 100.![]()
I think Rodgers is better :shrugs:Wait, are there actually people in the world who think that Rodgers is even close to sniffing the same tier as Brady? Really?
Same tier? All-time, Brady would be slightly above him because of duration and overall body of work (forgetting about the ***). But right now, Rodgers is head and shoulders above Brady. Rodgers is still imporoving and Brady is on the decline. Brady has actually become one of the league's worst clutch quarterbacks over the last five years or so. And he has actually gotten even slower (and softer). Wasn't sure that was possible.Wait, are there actually people in the world who think that Rodgers is even close to sniffing the same tier as Brady? Really?
This guy knows stuff.I know this is just one big fishing excursion, but I'll go ahead and throw myself in the boat anyways...I'm a Bears fan and I absolutely HATE the Pack and Rodgers with a passion. But that SOB is the BEST QB in the NFL and has been for at least a few years now. Dude has a porous offensive line, gets sacked more than anybody, doesn't miss games, and still ends up at or near the top of all relevant QB statistics year in and year out.
Has the media stepped up on this? If it was Suh it would be front page news.We know who has the better kicking leg