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And the verdict is? (1 Viewer)

Not unexpected, and I think the anarchists expected it as well.  Any rational person knew what the outcome should be.  

But, there are plenty of people out there who will want to leverage this little decision to their own means.  Sadly.

 
After watching all the video there was no doubt he would be aquitted.  The tape did not lie.

So now we can move on to the next trial.

 
My wife and I just talked about the verdict.

When I first read the story I thought he was definitely guilty.

Then after watching the videos I changed my mind (somewhat). I think that when the guy reached for his gun he was defending himself and was justified in pulling the trigger. 

When I heard an officer who witnessed the scene saying that almost everyone in the street was carrying weapons, gave me pause to rethink.

I told my wife about a post I read here yesterday from a Wisconsinite describing his youth and his gun ownership as well as going to school with a gun rack and hunting before and after school. I never saw a weapon anywhere during my youth growing up in Miami (surprisingly enough).

The kid made a very stupid mistake. He is going to have to live with this the rest of his life even though it won't be behind bars. 

Next?

 
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Universal open carry/concealed combined with expansive self defense laws is a recipe for some very disturbing events in the future. 

Not real beef with the verdict considering what the law is. Just that the law is messed up. 

 
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It's the expected result.   I also expect that it will embolden more vigilantes, and that those in the media and social media characterizing him as a hero are a bigger problem than his actual actions or this trial.   

 
-fish- said:
It's the expected result.   I also expect that it will embolden more vigilantes, and that those in the media and social media characterizing him as a hero are a bigger problem than his actual actions or this trial.   
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Hopefully the police will be more agressive containing these situations in the future before they get out of hand. When they let rioting go on unabated chaos ensues.

 
-fish- said:
It's the expected result.   I also expect that it will embolden more vigilantes, and that those in the media and social media characterizing him as a hero are a bigger problem than his actual actions or this trial.   
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You can count on it. 

 
Summer Wheat said:
Hopefully the police will be more agressive containing these situations in the future before they get out of hand. When they let rioting go on unabated chaos ensues.
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I agree, but that's going to have to get solved through elections in some places.  Portland and Seattle need new leadership if they're going to remake functioning police departments.  I'm sure they're not the only ones.   

 
I don’t think it will embolden more vigilantes. Two people are dead. Their families are grieving. Rittenhouse has been through a terrible ordeal, as has his family. This has been a tragedy all around. Outside of a few outliers, I can’t imagine that there will people who will be motivated by a not guilty verdict to follow in Rittenhouse’s footsteps. 

And I do hope that this event leads cities and law enforcement to be more proactive in preventing situations that can lead to violence such as this. 

 
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-fish- said:
It's the expected result.   I also expect that it will embolden more vigilantes, and that those in the media and social media characterizing him as a hero are a bigger problem than his actual actions or this trial.   
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Funny, I find the bigger problem is not allowing the police to do their jobs.  If they did, then there wouldn't have been any deaths.  Instead, liberal cities allowed unlawfulness, looting and rioting which precipitated the need for citizens to patrol their communities.  I also find the rush to judgment by the MSM (mainly liberal leaning) calling the kid a white supremacist and making this a race issue without having the facts and then after having the facts doubling and tripling down on that position just inflames radicals.  If there is even an inkling of rioting, the National Guard and Kenosha police should lay the hammer down and the DA should prosecute to the fullest extent of the law and set the precedent that rioting does not garner 1st Amendment protection.

 
bigbottom said:
I don’t think it will embolden more vigilantes. Two people are dead. Their families are grieving. Rittenhouse has been through a terrible ordeal, as has his family. This has been a tragedy all around. Outside of a few outliers, I can’t imagine that there will people who will be motivated by a not guilty verdict to follow in Rittenhouse’s footsteps. 

And I do hope that this event leads cities and law enforcement to be more proactive in preventing situations that can lead to violence such as this. 
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There were people open carrying outside the courtroom to support him, and the right-leaning media and social media has touted this case not as an outlier of self-defense, but as an attack on the second amendment.   They're seeing this as a call for more people to act like this, not less.   He's literally being called a hero.   

 
-fish- said:
There were people open carrying outside the courtroom to support him, and the right-leaning media and social media has touted this case not as an outlier of self-defense, but as an attack on the second amendment.   They're seeing this as a call for more people to act like this, not less.   He's literally being called a hero.   
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I have been watching MSNBC and they just interviewed some people outside of the courthouse and one guy referred to Rittenhouse as "Our hero Kyle"   :(

 
bigbottom said:
I don’t think it will embolden more vigilantes. Two people are dead. Their families are grieving. Rittenhouse has been through a terrible ordeal, as has his family. This has been a tragedy all around. Outside of a few outliers, I can’t imagine that there will people who will be motivated by a not guilty verdict to follow in Rittenhouse’s footsteps. 

And I do hope that this event leads cities and law enforcement to be more proactive in preventing situations that can lead to violence such as this. 
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:goodposting:

 
NorvilleBarnes said:
I really hope the jurors stay safe.
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This is what I worry about the most and the one thing during this trial that made me angry.  The MSNBC reporter following the jury bus was absolutely outrageous.  It brings up the specter of jury tampering, jury intimidation,  jury doxxing, and the subsequent violence from crazies that may follow.

We should all feel safe if called to serve our country in the jury box.  MSNBC deliberately tried to subvert that.    :rant:

 
Stoneworker said:
Gotta love some of the posts in here "this is the right verdict, but it's really not."
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For the record, I think this was pretty obviously the right verdict, period.  None of the four people involved had any business being there, and if people want to argue in favor of charging them with curfew violations, okay fine no objection on my end.  But given that they were there, I'm honestly not sure what Rittenhouse was supposed to do differently that would have resulted in a peaceful resolution to their differences. 

"Well he shouldn't have been there in the first place" is a totally fine observation, but there's no law against "being there in the first place" besides the aforementioned curfew.  None of that is relevant to his self-defense claim, nor should it be.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
For the record, I think this was pretty obviously the right verdict, period.  None of the four people involved had any business being there, and if people want to argue in favor of charging them with curfew violations, okay fine no objection on my end.  But given that they were there, I'm honestly not sure what Rittenhouse was supposed to do differently that would have resulted in a peaceful resolution to their differences. 

"Well he shouldn't have been there in the first place" is a totally fine observation, but there's no law against "being there in the first place" besides the aforementioned curfew.  None of that is relevant to his self-defense claim, nor should it be.
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Frankly, none of the people should have been there, so its really not a viable argument against KR.  

 
Sand said:
This is what I worry about the most and the one thing during this trial that made me angry.  The MSNBC reporter following the jury bus was absolutely outrageous.  It brings up the specter of jury tampering, jury intimidation,  jury doxxing, and the subsequent violence from crazies that may follow.

We should all feel safe if called to serve our country in the jury box.  MSNBC deliberately tried to subvert that.    :rant:
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He wasn't an MSNBC reporter. I believe he was a free lancer who has done some work for them.

 
-fish- said:
It's the expected result.   I also expect that it will embolden more vigilantes, and that those in the media and social media characterizing him as a hero are a bigger problem than his actual actions or this trial.   
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Hopefully it will DETER more criminals from burning down people's towns. 

 
Summer Wheat said:
Hopefully the police will be more agressive containing these situations in the future before they get out of hand. When they let rioting go on unabated chaos ensues.
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This is a big takeaway. No way it should have been out of hand like that. It's not like Kenosha is some "liberal stronghold" of an area.

Also, if communities want to have laws against certain behaviors, then they need to enact those laws through legislature. 

 
Grace Under Pressure said:
This is a big takeaway. No way it should have been out of hand like that. It's not like Kenosha is some "liberal stronghold" of an area.

Also, if communities want to have laws against certain behaviors, then they need to enact those laws through legislature. 
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Naw.  Let's get rid of all laws and let the gun guys just shoot it out in the street as they see fit.  

 
squistion said:
I haven't seen that confirmation from what I have read about this. 
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They admitted the incident happened and that Morrison worked for them. But you are right, they didn't admit Irene Byon ordered him to do it. That's just what he told police.

Either way, Irene has completely removed all of her online accounts. LinkedIn, Twitter, FB. All deleted as of last night. 

 
Sand said:
This is what I worry about the most and the one thing during this trial that made me angry.  The MSNBC reporter following the jury bus was absolutely outrageous.  It brings up the specter of jury tampering, jury intimidation,  jury doxxing, and the subsequent violence from crazies that may follow.

We should all feel safe if called to serve our country in the jury box.  MSNBC deliberately tried to subvert that.    :rant:
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I wasn't aware of this, how absolutely disgusting. 

 
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