Andre Johnson (2 Viewers)

[Burning Sensation]

Tool factor starting to ratchet up. AJ must be costing folks some fantasy wins.The team seems to be comfortable looking at other targets (Walter, Daniels, Slaton) so they appear to be a more balanced team. It's not just a QB and his security blanket. Even lesser NFL teams want to emulate good ones, and have a balanced attack with multiple options in the passing game. Best AJ owners can hope for is a QB change and hope Rosenfels didn't get the balanced attack memo.

You got all that from one game?

 

[bucsbaby]

I'm sorry I don't care so much about bashing AJ that I didn't respond fast enough for some people's liking.

I stand by my list, however, and the production of those players through the first 1/4 of the season relative to AJ supports it. I would rather have guys who are actually putting the points up for my fantasy team than someone who is failing to do so for whatever the excuse of the day is despite having "top 10 talent" when in fact I have never seen him finish in the top 10.

This guy gets it:

Overacting? AJ has failed to live up to his ADP his entire career. He's always drafted as a top 10-12 WR, yet is never a top 10-12 WR.

Yes points per game this, bad QB that, injuries this, bad play calling that. It's his 6th year, he’s supposed to be one of the best 5-6 WRs in the NFL, and it’s time to show it. He disappears more then Casper.

I always rag on AJ. I just don't understand how he's always drafted as a top 10 WR, yet has never been a top 10 WR. After 5 years? I know, I know lots of semi-valid excuses. I just don't believe in drafting guys at a spot, that they've never achieved. It's just bad business. And AJ has more of less proved that 5 years in a row. Maybe I'll miss out on year 6 (he's currently ranked 48), but that also means I missed out on his first 5 underwhelming years. I'll take that.

 

[Tanner9919]

I'm sorry I don't care so much about bashing AJ that I didn't respond fast enough for some people's liking.

I stand by my list, however, and the production of those players through the first 1/4 of the season relative to AJ supports it. I would rather have guys who are actually putting the points up for my fantasy team than someone who is failing to do so for whatever the excuse of the day is despite having "top 10 talent" when in fact I have never seen him finish in the top 10.

This guy gets it:

Overacting? AJ has failed to live up to his ADP his entire career. He's always drafted as a top 10-12 WR, yet is never a top 10-12 WR.

Yes points per game this, bad QB that, injuries this, bad play calling that. It's his 6th year, he’s supposed to be one of the best 5-6 WRs in the NFL, and it’s time to show it. He disappears more then Casper.

I always rag on AJ. I just don't understand how he's always drafted as a top 10 WR, yet has never been a top 10 WR. After 5 years? I know, I know lots of semi-valid excuses. I just don't believe in drafting guys at a spot, that they've never achieved. It's just bad business. And AJ has more of less proved that 5 years in a row. Maybe I'll miss out on year 6 (he's currently ranked 48), but that also means I missed out on his first 5 underwhelming years. I'll take that.

another overhyped,overrated guy..

AJ is like a pair of Aces in Texas Hold-em...you can't get away from it, its a great hand. its 'the best' you can have..but chances are you'll either win a very small pot or get busted with these Aces, at least that's how the saying goes...( same thing with Big Slick a-k - the bust rate is enormous!)

AJ looks great on paper - size, speed, hands, etc..he's fooled enough people by his high draft pick status, his 103 catch season, his reputation of 'AJ led the NFL before he got hurt 2007 season'..



fact is the guy is an also-ran WR on a team that now has a legit, borderline Pro Bowl TE and a rising star in RB Steve Slaton.

Aj doesn't need to make 10+ catches per game anymore, there are other options on this team.

wait for a big game, and then trade him.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I'm sorry I don't care so much about bashing AJ that I didn't respond fast enough for some people's liking.

I stand by my list, however, and the production of those players through the first 1/4 of the season relative to AJ supports it. I would rather have guys who are actually putting the points up for my fantasy team than someone who is failing to do so for whatever the excuse of the day is despite having "top 10 talent" when in fact I have never seen him finish in the top 10.

This guy gets it:

Overacting? AJ has failed to live up to his ADP his entire career. He's always drafted as a top 10-12 WR, yet is never a top 10-12 WR.

Yes points per game this, bad QB that, injuries this, bad play calling that. It's his 6th year, he’s supposed to be one of the best 5-6 WRs in the NFL, and it’s time to show it. He disappears more then Casper.

I always rag on AJ. I just don't understand how he's always drafted as a top 10 WR, yet has never been a top 10 WR. After 5 years? I know, I know lots of semi-valid excuses. I just don't believe in drafting guys at a spot, that they've never achieved. It's just bad business. And AJ has more of less proved that 5 years in a row. Maybe I'll miss out on year 6 (he's currently ranked 48), but that also means I missed out on his first 5 underwhelming years. I'll take that.

another overhyped,overrated guy..

AJ is like a pair of Aces in Texas Hold-em...you can't get away from it, its a great hand. its 'the best' you can have..but chances are you'll either win a very small pot or get busted with these Aces, at least that's how the saying goes...( same thing with Big Slick a-k - the bust rate is enormous!)

AJ looks great on paper - size, speed, hands, etc..he's fooled enough people by his high draft pick status, his 103 catch season, his reputation of 'AJ led the NFL before he got hurt 2007 season'..



fact is the guy is an also-ran WR on a team that now has a legit, borderline Pro Bowl TE and a rising star in RB Steve Slaton.

Aj doesn't need to make 10+ catches per game anymore, there are other options on this team.

wait for a big game, and then trade him.

You do know AJ was 2nd in the league in targets per game before yesterday, averaging 12 per. He had 8 more yesterday, he will certainly get his numbers. The fact the Texans are spreading the ball a bit might help him in the long run. Either way, if you guys prefer Housh, Holt or Cotchery, i wont try to convince you that you are wrong, you will figure it out soon enough.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

For those making mis-informed statements about AJ (who I do NOT own in any leagues), Jacksonville has historically allowed Walter and Daniels to beat them (Walter's best game last year was against the Jags) and refusing to let Johnson beat them.

If I owned AJ, I would only be more confident after this game because Schaub and the 11 guys on offense are starting to execute now.

AJ WILL blowup if you bench him (see Larry Johnson).

[/Walter owner]

 

[Chief]

Tool factor starting to ratchet up.

Agreed. It's incredible how much manure that one needs to wade through in order to find information about games that you cannot see. To me, this is the true value that this BBS should be. But in the past few years it has become more and more difficult to navigate the chestpounding crotchgrabbing BS posted by tools who are more interested in putting other people down and "proving" themselves right than providing insight that others can use to make decisions for themselves. For example, # of targets, whether targeted in endzone, whether the WR was the first option, etc. is good information in this context while posting a string of multiple one sentence she said - she said replies that make the immature high school girls I teach sound like eloquent orators is an example of the waste of time bad information[sic] that should be avoided.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Tool factor starting to ratchet up. AJ must be costing folks some fantasy wins.The team seems to be comfortable looking at other targets (Walter, Daniels, Slaton) so they appear to be a more balanced team. It's not just a QB and his security blanket. Even lesser NFL teams want to emulate good ones, and have a balanced attack with multiple options in the passing game. Best AJ owners can hope for is a QB change and hope Rosenfels didn't get the balanced attack memo.

You got all that from one game?

I think in the last game the running attack was clicking against a good defense and AJ again wasn't a big presence as other players had more catches. Like I said, it's not just a QB looking for one guy anymore.

 

[-baller]

For those making mis-informed statements about AJ (who I do NOT own in any leagues), Jacksonville has historically allowed Walter and Daniels to beat them (Walter's best game last year was against the Jags) and refusing to let Johnson beat them.If I owned AJ, I would only be more confident after this game because Schaub and the 11 guys on offense are starting to execute now.AJ WILL blowup if you bench him (see Larry Johnson).[/Walter owner]

what if I don't bench him?

 

[Burning Sensation]

You guys were right, Andre Johnson sucks.

 

[Spartans346]

Sage might be the difference.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I hope Sage plays for the rest of the year then

 

[Burning Sensation]

Sage might be the difference.

Could be, also could be because its a home game, or not against a great defense, or maybe because he is just that good.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

alot of really good catches today. he may have been embarassed by his last few games.

 

[Lobary]

What will it take for him to turn it around?

I dunno, easier matchups at home?

 

[Enforcer]

AJ is overrated. He has done nothing this year except drop passes and quit on routes. Im hoping I can move him. Trying to trade him for Deshaun but doubt it now after the game today. Slaton is the only texan worth having.

Talk about overreacting. AJ was only thrown to seven times today, yet he made a key 21-yd catch near the end of regulation that put the Texans in game-tying FG range. If you think AJ isn't worth owning, I'd love to be in your league.I'll will be trying my best to buy him low this week from the AJ owner in mine.

Please with that " I wish I was in your league" He isnt a true stud WR. Thats the facts. He has had about a half a season of goods games in his career. The truth will be told in the next two to three weeks. I dont understand why people dont know when to cut their loses

Tell me all about the truth now that a couple of weeks have passed.

 

[Lobary]

AJ's game logs since he returned from his knee injury last season:

6/120/1 TD

3/37

9/116/1 TD

9/82/1 TD

6/86/1 TD

7/74/1 TD

6/74

10/112

2/29

3/38

9/131/1 TD

10/178/1 TD

Yeah, he's waaaay overrated. For someone with such a high ADP, you'd think he'd be able to get TDs.

 

[two_dollars]

AJ is overrated. He has done nothing this year except drop passes and quit on routes. Im hoping I can move him. Trying to trade him for Deshaun but doubt it now after the game today. Slaton is the only texan worth having.

Talk about overreacting. AJ was only thrown to seven times today, yet he made a key 21-yd catch near the end of regulation that put the Texans in game-tying FG range. If you think AJ isn't worth owning, I'd love to be in your league.I'll will be trying my best to buy him low this week from the AJ owner in mine.

Please with that " I wish I was in your league" He isnt a true stud WR. Thats the facts. He has had about a half a season of goods games in his career. The truth will be told in the next two to three weeks. I dont understand why people dont know when to cut their loses

 

[Tau837]

AJ is overrated. He has done nothing this year except drop passes and quit on routes. Im hoping I can move him. Trying to trade him for Deshaun but doubt it now after the game today. Slaton is the only texan worth having.

Talk about overreacting. AJ was only thrown to seven times today, yet he made a key 21-yd catch near the end of regulation that put the Texans in game-tying FG range. If you think AJ isn't worth owning, I'd love to be in your league.I'll will be trying my best to buy him low this week from the AJ owner in mine.

Please with that " I wish I was in your league" He isnt a true stud WR. Thats the facts. He has had about a half a season of goods games in his career. The truth will be told in the next two to three weeks. I dont understand why people dont know when to cut their loses

Tell me all about the truth now that a couple of weeks have passed.

 

[Lobary]

I'm savoring a rare Texans win by doing the math on Andre Johnson's last fourteen games. Going back to his nine games played last season, AJ's 14 game totals are 94 rec, 1339 yds, and 10 TDs.

Wish I could've bought low a couple of weeks ago, but his owner in my league is impossible to get in touch with and never answers his trade offers.

 

[FavreCo]

Andre Johnson

 

[GroveDiesel]

I'm savoring a rare Texans win by doing the math on Andre Johnson's last fourteen games. Going back to his nine games played last season, AJ's 14 game totals are 94 rec, 1339 yds, and 10 TDs.

Wish I could've bought low a couple of weeks ago, but his owner in my league is impossible to get in touch with and never answers his trade offers.

Got him last Saturday for Garrard and DeSean Jackson.

 

[DrJamesAndrews Fan]

I luv me some AJ

 

[dcgangstas]

I luv me some AJ

Ditto. He should put up MONSTER numbers (as if he didn't today) against the Lions in Week 7.

 

[Lobary]

So, how's life for you AJ owners these days?

 

[Addai's Adidas]

So, how's life for you AJ owners these days?

He gets the Bengals next week

 

[Hellfire Snail]

So, how's life for you AJ owners these days?

It's been "turned". He's a freak. In single coverage he pretty much does whatever he wants.

 

[Butters]

So, for those who have watched the games, what have you seen that has been the difference? Earlier in this post I pointed out that AJ was one of the most targeted WRs. So, obviously, that has not changed. Is he just making the difficult catches now? (The 4th down catch in the waning moments last week was eye-popping.) Or is Schaub turning the targets from "ten feet over his head target" to "in-stride/on-the-numbers target"?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

So, how's life for you AJ owners these days?

It's been "turned". He's a freak. In single double coverage he pretty much does whatever he wants.

Fixed.

 

[Lobary]

So, for those who have watched the games, what have you seen that has been the difference? Earlier in this post I pointed out that AJ was one of the most targeted WRs. So, obviously, that has not changed. Is he just making the difficult catches now? (The 4th down catch in the waning moments last week was eye-popping.) Or is Schaub turning the targets from "ten feet over his head target" to "in-stride/on-the-numbers target"?

There really is not much difference. Aside from Jacksonville, who gameplanned him with a safety or two over the top and left OD and Walter wide open all day, AJ is still getting boatloads of targets from Schaub. Really, if he hadn't dropped those two TDs against Tennessee, he's the leading fantasy receiver and this thread probably doesn't get started.

 

[FavreCo]

So, how's life for you AJ owners these days?

It's been "turned". He's a freak. In single double coverage he pretty much does whatever he wants.

Fixed.

Unfortunately we get no points for double mugging in the endzone. A pathetic attempt at covering Andre.

 

[bucsbaby]

I'll be more impressed when AJ puts up good numbers against a defense that is better than the Lions (or the Bengals). There are a LOT of WRs in the NFL who could post good numbers against the Lions unit (i.e., see all the threads on "start the kitchen sink against the Lions?")

 

[Lobary]

I'll be more impressed when AJ puts up good numbers against a defense that is better than the Lions (or the Bengals). There are a LOT of WRs in the NFL who could post good numbers against the Lions unit (i.e., see all the threads on "start the kitchen sink against the Lions?")

Oh please. Andre Johnson has an impressive body of work to point to. Look at my post upthread, and then add another 11 catches and 141 yards and you'll see how awesome he's been over the last fifteen games. He's hardly a one-week wonder.

 

[evilempire]

Andre Johnson has played four of his seven games against teams that rank in the top half of my league's pass defenses (in average points allowed to receivers) and this is what he's done ..

Indianapolis (#2, allows 20.4 ppg to WRs as a whole) 9-131 (31.1 pts)

Tennessee (#3, 22.8) 2-29 (4.9)

Pittsburgh (#7, 26.1) 10-112 (24.2)

Jacksonville (#16, 33.2) 3-38 (6.8)

So he's had two poor games and two really good ones.

FWIW, his next four are against

Cincy (#11)

Minnesota (#10)

Baltimore (#5)

Indy again

I expect the run of big numbers to continue, especially now that Schaub has gotten back on course.

 

[Enforcer]

AJ is overrated. He has done nothing this year except drop passes and quit on routes. Im hoping I can move him. Trying to trade him for Deshaun but doubt it now after the game today. Slaton is the only texan worth having.

Talk about overreacting. AJ was only thrown to seven times today, yet he made a key 21-yd catch near the end of regulation that put the Texans in game-tying FG range. If you think AJ isn't worth owning, I'd love to be in your league.I'll will be trying my best to buy him low this week from the AJ owner in mine.

Please with that " I wish I was in your league" He isnt a true stud WR. Thats the facts. He has had about a half a season of goods games in his career. The truth will be told in the next two to three weeks. I dont understand why people dont know when to cut their loses

Tell me all about the truth now that a couple of weeks have passed.

Still waiting on the truth. I'm patient, but hopeful you will take the time to explain why I should have just "cut my loses".

 

[Lobary]

He's also been targeted 71 times, the most in the NFL, and he's already had his bye week.

 

[Tong Po]

I'll be more impressed when AJ puts up good numbers against a defense that is better than the Lions (or the Bengals). There are a LOT of WRs in the NFL who could post good numbers against the Lions unit (i.e., see all the threads on "start the kitchen sink against the Lions?")

What difference does it make WHO he is putting points up against? He's still putting up the points.And this IS a discussion about Andre Johnson's fantasy value as the season progresses. Is it not?

 

[jamil]

So, for those who have watched the games, what have you seen that has been the difference? Earlier in this post I pointed out that AJ was one of the most targeted WRs. So, obviously, that has not changed. Is he just making the difficult catches now? (The 4th down catch in the waning moments last week was eye-popping.) Or is Schaub turning the targets from "ten feet over his head target" to "in-stride/on-the-numbers target"?

they're getting him involved really early. quick slants and even some screens. it also helps that schaub is turning it on too.

 

[Burning Sensation]

In my leagues, I only get points for when my WRs actually catch the TDs, not when they obviously drop them

I would love to see a list of 12 WR's you would prefer over AJ.

MarshallWayneTOBoldinFitzMegatronJenningsS MossR MossWelkerBoweHoushl coles (redraft)cotchery (redraft)lee evansholt (2nd half of season)colston (2nd half of season)those are the ones i can list with confidence. maybe some others with less confidence

Still feel this way?

 

[Tau837]

In my leagues, I only get points for when my WRs actually catch the TDs, not when they obviously drop them

I would love to see a list of 12 WR's you would prefer over AJ.

MarshallWayneTOBoldinFitzMegatronJenningsS MossR MossWelkerBoweHoushl coles (redraft)cotchery (redraft)lee evansholt (2nd half of season)colston (2nd half of season)those are the ones i can list with confidence. maybe some others with less confidence

Still feel this way?

 

[DrJamesAndrews Fan]

 

[Lobary]

Bump for the latest ho hum Sunday for Andre Johnson.

How's 11 receptions for 143 sound to the skeptics?

HE. IS. THE. BEST. RECEIVER. IN. FOOTBALL.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

Bump for the latest ho hum Sunday for Andre Johnson.How's 11 receptions for 143 sound to the skeptics?HE. IS. THE. BEST. RECEIVER. IN. FOOTBALL.

AJ is a bum for letting all those TDs get vultured. If he had any self respect at all, he'd run down Walter and catch those TDs himself.

 

[Lobary]

AJ has 41 receptions, 593 yards, and 2 TDS....in the month of October.

 

[Lobary]

AJ is overrated. He has done nothing this year except drop passes and quit on routes. Im hoping I can move him. Trying to trade him for Deshaun but doubt it now after the game today. Slaton is the only texan worth having.

Talk about overreacting. AJ was only thrown to seven times today, yet he made a key 21-yd catch near the end of regulation that put the Texans in game-tying FG range. If you think AJ isn't worth owning, I'd love to be in your league.I'll will be trying my best to buy him low this week from the AJ owner in mine.

Please with that " I wish I was in your league" He isnt a true stud WR. Thats the facts. He has had about a half a season of goods games in his career. The truth will be told in the next two to three weeks. I dont understand why people dont know when to cut their loses

WHERE OH WHERE IS COWBOY HOMER?

 

[Enforcer]

AJ is overrated. He has done nothing this year except drop passes and quit on routes. Im hoping I can move him. Trying to trade him for Deshaun but doubt it now after the game today. Slaton is the only texan worth having.

Talk about overreacting. AJ was only thrown to seven times today, yet he made a key 21-yd catch near the end of regulation that put the Texans in game-tying FG range. If you think AJ isn't worth owning, I'd love to be in your league.I'll will be trying my best to buy him low this week from the AJ owner in mine.

Please with that " I wish I was in your league" He isnt a true stud WR. Thats the facts. He has had about a half a season of goods games in his career. The truth will be told in the next two to three weeks. I dont understand why people dont know when to cut their loses

Tell me all about the truth now that a couple of weeks have passed.

Still waiting on the truth. I'm patient, but hopeful you will take the time to explain why I should have just "cut my loses".

:TapsFingersOnTable:

 

[blake]

AJ is overrated. He has done nothing this year except drop passes and quit on routes. Im hoping I can move him. Trying to trade him for Deshaun but doubt it now after the game today. Slaton is the only texan worth having.

Talk about overreacting. AJ was only thrown to seven times today, yet he made a key 21-yd catch near the end of regulation that put the Texans in game-tying FG range. If you think AJ isn't worth owning, I'd love to be in your league.I'll will be trying my best to buy him low this week from the AJ owner in mine.

Please with that " I wish I was in your league" He isnt a true stud WR. Thats the facts. He has had about a half a season of goods games in his career. The truth will be told in the next two to three weeks. I dont understand why people dont know when to cut their loses

WHERE OH WHERE IS COWBOY HOMER?

nowhere to be found, naturally.

 

[rowmacks]

This guy is amazing. Makes every clutch catch, gives it all on every play, unbelievable after the catch... man, real fun to watch this guy play the game. Wish I had him on my fantasy squad.

 

[that_guy08]

Would anyone prefer Burress over AJ in dynasty/keeper?

 

[belljr]

Would anyone prefer Burress over AJ in dynasty/keeper?

Seriously?

 

[puckalicious]

Would anyone prefer Burress over AJ in dynasty/keeper?

I see you just joined today. Please don't post the same thing in multiple threads.