Will Andre Johnson turn it around soon or this year? He hasn't even scored yet and he was projected by some sites (like Rotoworld) as the #2 ranked WR. Even some of the articles here were hyping him quite a bit. He's in is prime at 27 and plays for a team that has to catch up most of the time. What's going on here? I know he had that bad game where he dropped like 2 TD passes, but is his poor production becoming a trend? I hope I'm not overreacting, but I hate losing by less than 10 points each week while getting 2 or 3 points from him.
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Addai's Adidas
Footballguy
He just got past the tough stretch of his schedule. Those who drafted him should know this.
AtomicDogg97
Footballguy
I'll trade you Braylon Edwards for him.
Really? He's played Pit, Jax and Ten. He has two of those again this year, plus Balt still to come.
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
Too early to tell. If SS can start to move the ball on the ground things will open for him. He has way too much talent and with Daniels and Walters in the receiving mix this offense will start to hit on some home cooking.
Yenrub
Footballguy
His next 3 games areIndy without Bob SaundersMiamiDetroit
I think it all depends on what your expectations were when you drafted him. If you expected him to breakout and be a top 3 WR, then obviously he's been
a bust so far. If you expected a top 10 WR, then he's still been a disappointment but has time to turn it around and meet those expectations.
The biggest problem that I see is that Schaub is getting more comfortable with K. Walters and O. Daniels. They seem to be getting a few more targets.
At this point, I think he's a buy low. But don't expect top 5 WR numbers going forward. He's shown a tendency to drop balls this season and so far it doesn't
look like Schaub will force the ball to him with the other receivers showing that they can help carry the load.
a bust so far. If you expected a top 10 WR, then he's still been a disappointment but has time to turn it around and meet those expectations.
The biggest problem that I see is that Schaub is getting more comfortable with K. Walters and O. Daniels. They seem to be getting a few more targets.
At this point, I think he's a buy low. But don't expect top 5 WR numbers going forward. He's shown a tendency to drop balls this season and so far it doesn't
look like Schaub will force the ball to him with the other receivers showing that they can help carry the load.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
I've never seen a WR get pass (npi) like Andre Johnson.
He is a borderline bust who is injury prone, but no one
wants to slam him, and everyone seems to have him in the top 5 overall WR
year in and year out.
I wish I could understand why many have such myopic manlove for AJ.
He is treated like a consistent stud performer,
when in reality he is just the opposite.
.
He is a borderline bust who is injury prone, but no one
wants to slam him, and everyone seems to have him in the top 5 overall WR
year in and year out.
I wish I could understand why many have such myopic manlove for AJ.
He is treated like a consistent stud performer,
when in reality he is just the opposite.
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mex
Footballguy
his stats would look much better if he could hold onto the ball, he has had some big drops this year.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
I'm surprised when I regularily see posters make similar comments.Since when has he anyone ranked him in the top 5 before this pre-season? No one wants to slam him? I suggest you use the search function for the many, many threads discussing Andre with much discussion about him being injury prone or that he is consistently over-rated or under-perform's his ADP. Here's one from just a few days ago.
Mucho discussion in that one.
Wilbur Wood
Footballguy
People say "buy low" but most AJ owners still have him valued at pre-season levels.
I was turned down before Week 4 games in an offer of Larry Johnson for AJ. I'm not sure that I would make that same offer coming off of Week 4 results but that's more a function of LJ's stock having been restored with back to back solid outings. I might consider giving up Michael Turner for AJ (I'm long RB's) but that still wouldn't be a "buy low" in my view.
I was turned down before Week 4 games in an offer of Larry Johnson for AJ. I'm not sure that I would make that same offer coming off of Week 4 results but that's more a function of LJ's stock having been restored with back to back solid outings. I might consider giving up Michael Turner for AJ (I'm long RB's) but that still wouldn't be a "buy low" in my view.
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
At this time- would you start Walter over AJ?I will give Walter a love.He gave me a win.
gkza
Footballguy
I agree with you. I think this guy is a bust from a "real football" perspective. He has only cleard 1,000 yards 2 times out of his first 5 seasons. Never had double digit TDs. He was a 3rd overall pick and was drafted before Boldin whos stats put him to shame.
jaylasoul14
Footballguy
would anyone here do cotchery and bruce for johnson. i'll admit, im willing to give cotchery for him. am i nutz?
LarryAllen'sJockstrap
Footballguy
I don't think any player that isn't seriously injured can be considered a bust when they've only played 3 out of 16 games.
Yes, he's had two bad games, and one good game. Way too early to be freaking out. He's averaging 9.7 targets a game.
Also, he faced Courtland Finnegan and Rashean Mathis the last two weeks.
Yes, he's had two bad games, and one good game. Way too early to be freaking out. He's averaging 9.7 targets a game.
Also, he faced Courtland Finnegan and Rashean Mathis the last two weeks.
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Wilbur Wood
Footballguy
He was just traded straight up for Plexico Burress in $$ redraft league (PPR).
I think Burress is the safer bet myself, although AJ's ceiling is higher as the Texans should be playing from behind more often than Big Blue. Further risk if Schuab gets benched in favor of Sage.
I think Burress is the safer bet myself, although AJ's ceiling is higher as the Texans should be playing from behind more often than Big Blue. Further risk if Schuab gets benched in favor of Sage.
If a LHUCKS stamp of approval isn't the FF kiss of death I'm not sure what is.Would you say, he's UNDERRATED?
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
When he drops a couple of perfect passes in the end zone, the blame might not all be on his doorstep...... but it has to at least start pulling into his driveway.
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You make it sound like they were both easy.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
When you are getting paid millions of dollars to catch a ball... and it is catchable... you should be able to make the catch. Why would they need Andre Johnson if every pass has to be one that you or I could make?
Chaka
Footballguy
Good point.
I think one was catchable.There are varying degrees of difficulty, no matter how many millions one is paid.
Chaka
Footballguy
I would be willing to drop those passes for much less money.
SteelerMurf
Footballguy
I just traded away R. Moss and TJones for A. Johnson and Grant and feel real good about it.
AJ has his QBs (both can toss the rock downfield) and has had some real tough matchups. Moss quit last week, couldn't get open for Miami and has a guy who couldn't even start in college throwing to him. The TJ for Grant part? They both underperformed but Chatman is coming back and Leon really will start cutting into TJ production. TJ barely a blip on the screen when his team scores 56 pts....he stinks
AJ has his QBs (both can toss the rock downfield) and has had some real tough matchups. Moss quit last week, couldn't get open for Miami and has a guy who couldn't even start in college throwing to him. The TJ for Grant part? They both underperformed but Chatman is coming back and Leon really will start cutting into TJ production. TJ barely a blip on the screen when his team scores 56 pts....he stinks
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Yeah this is a mixed bag for me too. I'm in 4 leagues and in 3 of them, the AJ owners are treating him like he's Owens/Fitz/Boldin/Wayne etc as far as what they expect in return. In one of my leagues, I moved Lloyd and McClain for him, so it all depends on the owner I guess.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
I own AJ but I wouldn't move him unless someone overpaid. If he flops and I get stuck with the guy then so be it. I'm going to sink or swim with him.
two_dollars
Footballguy
AJ has 4 home games coming. They have not played at home yet. They have IND, MIA, DET, CIN coming up. If he still "flops" through these 4 games, then it's probably ok to write him off.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
That's pretty much the stance of the AJ owner in my league. Two weeks ago I offered him Cotch + Holmes for AJ (start 3 WR, I also own Marshall, White & VJax); he didn't even bother replying and he even has had Colston out w/ injury all this time.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
I'm not saying I would do that trade but depending who my other wr's were I would at least entertain the offer. It seems reasonable. Try offering the deal again - it's been a long two weeks for AJ owners and Cotchery has shown he isn't a fluke while Holmes came to life Monday.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
First thought I had when I saw the thread title.
I would think AJ owners have more reason to feel hopeful about a turnaround from Schaub or an upgrade if Rosenthals took over...whereas the Cleveland situation feels completely hopeless at this point.
az_prof
Footballguy
I think AJ has gotten alot of slack cut because of two reasons:
1) he did have that one huge year
2) he has never had a top flight QB
Last year he and Schaub seemed to be lighting it up and he was on his way to putting up top 5 numbers at least: and then he got hurt.
So that hot start sort of ignited the excitement again, especially since it seemed he finally had a good QB.
Now....? I don't know. Haters have a point: compared to guys like TO, Holt, Harrison, and a few others, he has not consistently put up top 10 or even top 20 numbers.
1) he did have that one huge year
2) he has never had a top flight QB
Last year he and Schaub seemed to be lighting it up and he was on his way to putting up top 5 numbers at least: and then he got hurt.
So that hot start sort of ignited the excitement again, especially since it seemed he finally had a good QB.
Now....? I don't know. Haters have a point: compared to guys like TO, Holt, Harrison, and a few others, he has not consistently put up top 10 or even top 20 numbers.
