General Malaise
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Sometime today...So, when is this supposed to happen?
Meatwad sure is quiet.

Sometime today...So, when is this supposed to happen?
Interesting pics. As a note, the little girl in the crocs has her shoes on the wrong feet.Found this photo-journal pretty interesting. Some pretty sorry looking people in the Klan. No wonder they wear hoods.
Yes, that's also what I found shocking.Interesting pics. As a note, the little girl in the crocs has her shoes on the wrong feet.Found this photo-journal pretty interesting. Some pretty sorry looking people in the Klan. No wonder they wear hoods.
Third picture down looks like Walter from Lebowski.Found this photo-journal pretty interesting. Some pretty sorry looking people in the Klan. No wonder they wear hoods.
It looks nothing like him. It looks like Big Dan from O BrotherThird picture down looks like Walter from Lebowski.Found this photo-journal pretty interesting. Some pretty sorry looking people in the Klan. No wonder they wear hoods.
Also enjoyed Dora the Mexican Explorer being admitted into the Klan's family.Interesting pics. As a note, the little girl in the crocs has her shoes on the wrong feet.Found this photo-journal pretty interesting. Some pretty sorry looking people in the Klan. No wonder they wear hoods.
I love this shtick but it can be dangerous for those that don't know TGunz.The fact that you think the overall net result of the ACA is "regular people getting hurt" speaks volumes about not only how slanted your worldview is, but how biased the news sources are that you follow.Pretty sure we learned in the Obamacare thread that tGunZ doesn't care when regular people get hurt, as long as he gets what he wants.Good god TGunz![]()
His concern isn't about the KKK members...it's about the innocent people. You have to work hard to be this obtuse....real hard.
Unless you literally never write anything down, you have zero anonymity. Anything you do in electronic format you should consider public information.YepHenry Ford said:There's also some serious concern about the act of doxing in general, and loss of the right of anonymous free speech in this country. Which is extremely problematic.Several? I think it really is just Meatwad. Others might be voicing concern over the veracity of the unhooding, in that it might be wrongly identifying KKK members. But tomorrow should be interesting.Interesting how upset several posters are that some KKK members are being outed.![]()
Wearing a hood all the time prevents oxygen from getting to the teeth. Day 1 dental school stuff...A lot of A-1 dental work in those pictures.
That was pretty wonderful in a totally American kinda way.The pic of the guy shooting the roach is gold.
I enjoy Kit Kats - not my number 1 by any stretch, but I don't mind when someone gives me a break and breaks me off a piece of that kit kat bar.I wrote out a ten-page response to this, but then I deleted it because it's just not worth it. If you really think Kit Kats are that tasty, probably nothing anyone says here is going to change your mind.Maybe some of them thought they were joining the Kit Kat Klub. It's an honest mistake and who doesn't love Kit Kats?
When these things come up my mind immediately tracks back to Richard Jewell. Words really can't express the hell that guy went through after wrongly being named a subject.Yup- who the hell cares if an actual KKK member is outed? But it dang well would suck to be outed as a member of the KKK when you are not. That wrong info gets out and it sticks- pretty much doesn't matter how much it is debunked.Several? I think it really is just Meatwad. Others might be voicing concern over the veracity of the unhooding, in that it might be wrongly identifying KKK members. But tomorrow should be interesting.Interesting how upset several posters are that some KKK members are being outed.![]()
Were they breathing oxygen too?!When are we going to start protesting the US Flag....it pops up in most of these pics![]()
ETA: Or sheets in general for that matter.
That's what she said.It's out.I thought today was the day?![]()
allegedlyWere they breathing oxygen too?!When are we going to start protesting the US Flag....it pops up in most of these pics![]()
ETA: Or sheets in general for that matter.
See the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statementThe Commish said:free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequencesmsommer said:So you are against libel and slander laws?NCCommish said:You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.
yeah, noSee the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statementThe Commish said:free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequencesmsommer said:So you are against libel and slander laws?NCCommish said:You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.
I have said several times and in many threads speech has consequences. However those consequences, except in criminal/civil cases, can't be driven by government action. That is censorship. Obviously you can get fired or maybe radio stations refuse to play your music.See the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statementThe Commish said:free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequencesmsommer said:So you are against libel and slander laws?NCCommish said:You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.
Do you consider laws describing the consequences of, say, being caught drunk driving as attempts to curtail said behavior?I have said several times and in many threads speech has consequences. However those consequences, except in criminal/civil cases, can't be driven by government action. That is censorship. Obviously you can get fired or maybe radio stations refuse to play your music.See the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statementThe Commish said:free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequencesmsommer said:So you are against libel and slander laws?NCCommish said:You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.
So I think you should be able to say what you want. But of course you have to be willing to live with the consequences of saying it. I just don't want us as a matter of policy denying people their right to expose themselves and their radical agendas.
Well that's the intent of pretty much every law. And I am not advocating no punishment for slander or libel or communicating threats that's why I mentioned criminal and civil proceedings in that post. I am saying that when we start down the road of shutting down speech that we find offensive and that is its big crime that's a bad road to get.on.Do you consider laws describing the consequences of, say, being caught drunk driving as attempts to curtail said behavior?I posit that it is.I have said several times and in many threads speech has consequences. However those consequences, except in criminal/civil cases, can't be driven by government action. That is censorship. Obviously you can get fired or maybe radio stations refuse to play your music.So I think you should be able to say what you want. But of course you have to be willing to live with the consequences of saying it. I just don't want us as a matter of policy denying people their right to expose themselves and their radical agendas.See the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statementThe Commish said:free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequencesmsommer said:So you are against libel and slander laws?NCCommish said:You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.
Nice catch.xulf said:Interesting pics. As a note, the little girl in the crocs has her shoes on the wrong feet.General Malaise said:Found this photo-journal pretty interesting. Some pretty sorry looking people in the Klan. No wonder they wear hoods.
I don't disagree but you were saying we must not curtail, yet you agree that there already are curtailments in place that you do not wish to remove. Hate speech laws would be further curtailments. Is it a slope? Maybe. Is it slippery? Maybe.Well that's the intent of pretty much every law. And I am not advocating no punishment for slander or libel or communicating threats that's why I mentioned criminal and civil proceedings in that post. I am saying that when we start down the road of shutting down speech that we find offensive and that is its big crime that's a bad road to get.on.Do you consider laws describing the consequences of, say, being caught drunk driving as attempts to curtail said behavior?I posit that it is.I have said several times and in many threads speech has consequences. However those consequences, except in criminal/civil cases, can't be driven by government action. That is censorship. Obviously you can get fired or maybe radio stations refuse to play your music.So I think you should be able to say what you want. But of course you have to be willing to live with the consequences of saying it. I just don't want us as a matter of policy denying people their right to expose themselves and their radical agendas.See the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statementThe Commish said:free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequencesmsommer said:So you are against libel and slander laws?NCCommish said:You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.
Actually you may want to check out where the Brits are after starting down this road. We wouldn't call what they have free speech at this point. I am against hate speech laws we already have enough speech laws. Today the KKK is hate speech, but the concern is what's hate speech tomorrow? And who decides?I don't disagree but you were saying we must not curtail, yet you agree that there already are curtailments in place that you do not wish to remove. Hate speech laws would be further curtailments. Is it a slope? Maybe. Is it slippery? Maybe.It doesn't have to be, hasn't been in many European countries. Elsewhere, yes, but not where courts are independent and the society in general works. At least I'm not aware of any examples.Well that's the intent of pretty much every law. And I am not advocating no punishment for slander or libel or communicating threats that's why I mentioned criminal and civil proceedings in that post. I am saying that when we start down the road of shutting down speech that we find offensive and that is its big crime that's a bad road to get.on.Do you consider laws describing the consequences of, say, being caught drunk driving as attempts to curtail said behavior?I posit that it is.I have said several times and in many threads speech has consequences. However those consequences, except in criminal/civil cases, can't be driven by government action. That is censorship. Obviously you can get fired or maybe radio stations refuse to play your music.So I think you should be able to say what you want. But of course you have to be willing to live with the consequences of saying it. I just don't want us as a matter of policy denying people their right to expose themselves and their radical agendas.See the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statementThe Commish said:free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequencesmsommer said:So you are against libel and slander laws?NCCommish said:You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.