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Anonymous Outing KKK Members (1 Viewer)

Good god TGunz :lol:

His concern isn't about the KKK members...it's about the innocent people. You have to work hard to be this obtuse....real hard.
Pretty sure we learned in the Obamacare thread that tGunZ doesn't care when regular people get hurt, as long as he gets what he wants.
The fact that you think the overall net result of the ACA is "regular people getting hurt" speaks volumes about not only how slanted your worldview is, but how biased the news sources are that you follow.
I love this shtick but it can be dangerous for those that don't know TGunz.

 
Henry Ford said:
Interesting how upset several posters are that some KKK members are being outed.
Several? I think it really is just Meatwad. Others might be voicing concern over the veracity of the unhooding, in that it might be wrongly identifying KKK members. But tomorrow should be interesting. :popcorn:
There's also some serious concern about the act of doxing in general, and loss of the right of anonymous free speech in this country. Which is extremely problematic.
Yep
Unless you literally never write anything down, you have zero anonymity. Anything you do in electronic format you should consider public information.

 
When are we going to start protesting the US Flag....it pops up in most of these pics :oldunsure:

ETA: Or sheets in general for that matter.

 
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Maybe some of them thought they were joining the Kit Kat Klub. It's an honest mistake and who doesn't love Kit Kats?
I wrote out a ten-page response to this, but then I deleted it because it's just not worth it. If you really think Kit Kats are that tasty, probably nothing anyone says here is going to change your mind.
I enjoy Kit Kats - not my number 1 by any stretch, but I don't mind when someone gives me a break and breaks me off a piece of that kit kat bar.

 
Interesting how upset several posters are that some KKK members are being outed.
Several? I think it really is just Meatwad. Others might be voicing concern over the veracity of the unhooding, in that it might be wrongly identifying KKK members. But tomorrow should be interesting. :popcorn:
Yup- who the hell cares if an actual KKK member is outed? But it dang well would suck to be outed as a member of the KKK when you are not. That wrong info gets out and it sticks- pretty much doesn't matter how much it is debunked.
When these things come up my mind immediately tracks back to Richard Jewell. Words really can't express the hell that guy went through after wrongly being named a subject.

And while I would normally issue congratulations on the successful fishing trip, this is TGunz we're talking about, so I'm sure he's serious.

 
Looking at the list now, I'm about 75% done.

:lmao: @ all the people who deactivated their facebook account on 11/4.

So far, not much in the way of anyone important. A couple of former dept of corrections workers and 1 retired cop from east bumble####, MO.

 
The Commish said:
msommer said:
NCCommish said:
You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.
So you are against libel and slander laws?
free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequences
See the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statement

 
The Commish said:
msommer said:
NCCommish said:
You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.
So you are against libel and slander laws?
free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequences
See the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statement
yeah, no :shrug:

 
The Commish said:
msommer said:
NCCommish said:
You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.
So you are against libel and slander laws?
free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequences
See the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statement
I have said several times and in many threads speech has consequences. However those consequences, except in criminal/civil cases, can't be driven by government action. That is censorship. Obviously you can get fired or maybe radio stations refuse to play your music.

So I think you should be able to say what you want. But of course you have to be willing to live with the consequences of saying it. I just don't want us as a matter of policy denying people their right to expose themselves and their radical agendas.

 
The Commish said:
msommer said:
NCCommish said:
You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.
So you are against libel and slander laws?
free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequences
See the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statement
I have said several times and in many threads speech has consequences. However those consequences, except in criminal/civil cases, can't be driven by government action. That is censorship. Obviously you can get fired or maybe radio stations refuse to play your music.

So I think you should be able to say what you want. But of course you have to be willing to live with the consequences of saying it. I just don't want us as a matter of policy denying people their right to expose themselves and their radical agendas.
Do you consider laws describing the consequences of, say, being caught drunk driving as attempts to curtail said behavior?

I posit that it is.

 
The Commish said:
msommer said:
NCCommish said:
You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.
So you are against libel and slander laws?
free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequences
See the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statement
I have said several times and in many threads speech has consequences. However those consequences, except in criminal/civil cases, can't be driven by government action. That is censorship. Obviously you can get fired or maybe radio stations refuse to play your music.So I think you should be able to say what you want. But of course you have to be willing to live with the consequences of saying it. I just don't want us as a matter of policy denying people their right to expose themselves and their radical agendas.
Do you consider laws describing the consequences of, say, being caught drunk driving as attempts to curtail said behavior?I posit that it is.
Well that's the intent of pretty much every law. And I am not advocating no punishment for slander or libel or communicating threats that's why I mentioned criminal and civil proceedings in that post. I am saying that when we start down the road of shutting down speech that we find offensive and that is its big crime that's a bad road to get.on.

 
The Commish said:
msommer said:
NCCommish said:
You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.
So you are against libel and slander laws?
free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequences
See the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statement
I have said several times and in many threads speech has consequences. However those consequences, except in criminal/civil cases, can't be driven by government action. That is censorship. Obviously you can get fired or maybe radio stations refuse to play your music.So I think you should be able to say what you want. But of course you have to be willing to live with the consequences of saying it. I just don't want us as a matter of policy denying people their right to expose themselves and their radical agendas.
Do you consider laws describing the consequences of, say, being caught drunk driving as attempts to curtail said behavior?I posit that it is.
Well that's the intent of pretty much every law. And I am not advocating no punishment for slander or libel or communicating threats that's why I mentioned criminal and civil proceedings in that post. I am saying that when we start down the road of shutting down speech that we find offensive and that is its big crime that's a bad road to get.on.
I don't disagree but you were saying we must not curtail, yet you agree that there already are curtailments in place that you do not wish to remove. Hate speech laws would be further curtailments. Is it a slope? Maybe. Is it slippery? Maybe.

It doesn't have to be, hasn't been in many European countries. Elsewhere, yes, but not where courts are independent and the society in general works. At least I'm not aware of any examples.

 
The Commish said:
msommer said:
NCCommish said:
You are either for free speech or against. If you want to curtail speech well I can't get on that train. Even when it is some doosh I would prefer to punch in his/her speech hole. We must allow ourselves to be challenged by speech we disagree with and fight it with our own speech. That is the way a truly free society works. Otherwise it's the KKK today and someone you don't hate tomorrow.
So you are against libel and slander laws?
free speech <> being able to say whatever you want with no consequences
See the bolded which does seem to indicate that NCC used the = in stead of the <> in your statement
I have said several times and in many threads speech has consequences. However those consequences, except in criminal/civil cases, can't be driven by government action. That is censorship. Obviously you can get fired or maybe radio stations refuse to play your music.So I think you should be able to say what you want. But of course you have to be willing to live with the consequences of saying it. I just don't want us as a matter of policy denying people their right to expose themselves and their radical agendas.
Do you consider laws describing the consequences of, say, being caught drunk driving as attempts to curtail said behavior?I posit that it is.
Well that's the intent of pretty much every law. And I am not advocating no punishment for slander or libel or communicating threats that's why I mentioned criminal and civil proceedings in that post. I am saying that when we start down the road of shutting down speech that we find offensive and that is its big crime that's a bad road to get.on.
I don't disagree but you were saying we must not curtail, yet you agree that there already are curtailments in place that you do not wish to remove. Hate speech laws would be further curtailments. Is it a slope? Maybe. Is it slippery? Maybe.It doesn't have to be, hasn't been in many European countries. Elsewhere, yes, but not where courts are independent and the society in general works. At least I'm not aware of any examples.
Actually you may want to check out where the Brits are after starting down this road. We wouldn't call what they have free speech at this point. I am against hate speech laws we already have enough speech laws. Today the KKK is hate speech, but the concern is what's hate speech tomorrow? And who decides?

 
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