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wow... they need to execute this cop.
Stop doing stupid things around cops!http://time.com/3814602/south-carolina-walter-scott-police-shooting-attorney/
Martin and Brown Attorney: How Many More Videos Will It Take, America?
Benjamin Crump April 8, 2015
(Benjamin Crump is an attorney who represents the families of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and Tamir Rice.)
We must stop taking the standard police narrative at face value
What started out as a routine traffic stop quickly escalated into the death of Walter Scott. The city of North Charleston, S.C., was all too willing to accept the officers version of events, even though the physical evidence clearly showed that the officer had fired eight shots, with four of the eight shots fired hitting Scott in the back.
Far too often the police come up with the same narrative: I felt threatened, I felt afraid, the victim struggled with me, he reached for my gun. This is the same old story from officers that shoot unarmed black men. If not for the video, the officer would have been believed and his story would never have been questioned by the justice system or city officials.
Ive represented dozens of families of unarmed people of color who have been killed by police officers. And if I had a dollar for every time the reason given by the police was that they reached for my weapon or they attacked me and I felt in fear for my life, I wouldnt have enough room in my pockets. Whats sad is how often the police narrative is accepted, with no one but the family raising questions. The death of an unarmed individual is swept under the rug. Walter Scotts death was well on the way to being swept under the rugbut for the video. Therein lies the problem.
This video was shocking to much of America, but for many of us it was a scene we have experienced so many times in our communities that we werent shocked at all. When I saw it, I imagined how many times evidence has been planted, how many times untrue stories have been given as official statements, to help justify the killing of innocent people of color. Without the video it would be difficult for us to ascertain exactly what did occur, the mayor of the North Charleston, Keith Summey, said. But is that really true? I do not agree that it would be difficult. An unarmed black man is shot multiple times from behind while he is fleeing from an officer? That does not point to justified use of deadly force.
If this video shocked you, how about the video of the beating of Floyd Dent in Inkster, Mich., or the video of the fatal shooting of Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Ohio? What about the video of the shooting of Antonio Zambrano-Montes in Pasco, Washington, and the video of the beating of Alesia Thomas, in Los Angeles, both of whom later died?
Why are we still automatically accepting the police narrative? How many shocking videos of police misconduct do we need to show you, America, before you quit accepting the narrative?
North Charleston Police Chief Eddie Driggers, referring to his officers, said, One does not throw a blanket across the many. I agree with this statement. It should also apply to black men and all people of color.
There is a blanket of distrust, disrespect and indifference that has been thrown across black men in America. And it is resulting in too many deaths at hands of armed police officers who claim they are afraid
Should it be done in public, like the execution of Walter Scott?wow... they need to execute this cop.
Be sporting about it - give him a 10-step head start.Should it be done in public, like the execution of Walter Scott?wow... they need to execute this cop.
i havent heard a word about who was in the car with Scott when he was pulled overThis.Immaterial.Doubt it helps the cop but the dude took off running from the car. WTF?
I put myself forth as prospective defense attorney (untrained), if he wants to take the "I'm not a killer, I'm just lazy" defense.
"Look, I know that I should get my lazy ### of the couch and change the TV channel, but I got used to the remote. It was the end of the day. Guy starts running. My head tells me I should take off after him. But I got this gun, see..."
I mean the lazy ******* could've also jumped back in his car and chased him down in his vehicle.
I agree, the cop could have stood still, smoked a cigarette, then called it in and took off after him and still caught him before he got out of sight.This isn't Usain Bolt we're talking about. The cop could have ran him down running backwards.Doubt it helps the cop but the dude took off running from the car. WTF?
1. Cops need more training on using appropriate force. It's easy for a cop to get carried away during an arrest when they have adrenaline rushing through them. To control that requires training and experience.Dual forces:
In a world where people do stupid things, how do we prevent unnecessary use of force?
And in that same world, how do we impress on people to start seeing, valuing and communicating the abject need to stop doing stupid stuff?
the mother had that white shmegma film on the corners of her mouth and that strand that goes up and down between her lips when she talked :XDoes anybody else get uncomfortable when listening to the interviews with family and friends.
Fortunately I don't know what it's like to have kids who I fail to pay child support long enough that there's a warrant out for my arrest.Only thing that could make this incident more compelling would be if it had a soundtrack played over it about having empathy for your fellow man, about walking in someone else's shoes. I don't know, like "What its Like" by Everlast.
If you lived in SC, like Walter Scott, it can be as little as 5 days before a civil contempt hearing is issued, which could result in a up to a year in jail.Fortunately I don't know what it's like to have kids who I fail to pay child support long enough that there's a warrant out for my arrest.Only thing that could make this incident more compelling would be if it had a soundtrack played over it about having empathy for your fellow man, about walking in someone else's shoes. I don't know, like "What its Like" by Everlast.
We jumped awfully quickly to this being an act of racism didn't we? Do we have any evidence that the cop here was racist? Past testimony of friends, affiliation with white supremacist groups, use of racial epithets, questionnable emails or website usage? Anything? Or are we now automatically assuming that every time a white-on-black crime is committed it must be racism? Is it possible - just possible - that race had nothing to do with this?I wish to God we had some intelligent leadership in this movement with the foresight to paint this not as an issue of racism but as an issue of police brutality. Framing the issue that way would get a lot more people on board and bring about the changes we need sooner rather than later.Stop doing stupid things around cops!http://time.com/3814602/south-carolina-walter-scott-police-shooting-attorney/
Martin and Brown Attorney: How Many More Videos Will It Take, America?
Benjamin Crump April 8, 2015
(Benjamin Crump is an attorney who represents the families of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and Tamir Rice.)
We must stop taking the standard police narrative at face value
What started out as a routine traffic stop quickly escalated into the death of Walter Scott. The city of North Charleston, S.C., was all too willing to accept the officers version of events, even though the physical evidence clearly showed that the officer had fired eight shots, with four of the eight shots fired hitting Scott in the back.
Far too often the police come up with the same narrative: I felt threatened, I felt afraid, the victim struggled with me, he reached for my gun. This is the same old story from officers that shoot unarmed black men. If not for the video, the officer would have been believed and his story would never have been questioned by the justice system or city officials.
Ive represented dozens of families of unarmed people of color who have been killed by police officers. And if I had a dollar for every time the reason given by the police was that they reached for my weapon or they attacked me and I felt in fear for my life, I wouldnt have enough room in my pockets. Whats sad is how often the police narrative is accepted, with no one but the family raising questions. The death of an unarmed individual is swept under the rug. Walter Scotts death was well on the way to being swept under the rugbut for the video. Therein lies the problem.
This video was shocking to much of America, but for many of us it was a scene we have experienced so many times in our communities that we werent shocked at all. When I saw it, I imagined how many times evidence has been planted, how many times untrue stories have been given as official statements, to help justify the killing of innocent people of color. Without the video it would be difficult for us to ascertain exactly what did occur, the mayor of the North Charleston, Keith Summey, said. But is that really true? I do not agree that it would be difficult. An unarmed black man is shot multiple times from behind while he is fleeing from an officer? That does not point to justified use of deadly force.If this video shocked you, how about the video of the beating of Floyd Dent in Inkster, Mich., or the video of the fatal shooting of Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Ohio? What about the video of the shooting of Antonio Zambrano-Montes in Pasco, Washington, and the video of the beating of Alesia Thomas, in Los Angeles, both of whom later died?
Why are we still automatically accepting the police narrative? How many shocking videos of police misconduct do we need to show you, America, before you quit accepting the narrative?
North Charleston Police Chief Eddie Driggers, referring to his officers, said, One does not throw a blanket across the many. I agree with this statement. It should also apply to black men and all people of color.
There is a blanket of distrust, disrespect and indifference that has been thrown across black men in America. And it is resulting in too many deaths at hands of armed police officers who claim they are afraid
Floyd Dent - WTH are you doing trying to open your door on a traffic stop?
Tamir Rice - don't play with toy guns in public and certainly don't reach for it when the cops arrive.
Antonio Zambrano-Montes - WTH are you throwing rocks when cops have their guns pointed at you?
Alesia Thomas - don't resist arrest - cops have no sense of appropriate force and treat every suspect like they're Marshawn Lynch. Also, don't abandon your kids at the police station.
People are more concerned about the (perceived)intent than the actual crime.We jumped awfully quickly to this being an act of racism didn't we? Do we have any evidence that the cop here was racist? Past testimony of friends, affiliation with white supremacist groups, use of racial epithets, questionnable emails or website usage? Anything? Or are we now automatically assuming that every time a white-on-black crime is committed it must be racism? Is it possible - just possible - that race had nothing to do with this?I wish to God we had some intelligent leadership in this movement with the foresight to paint this not as an issue of racism but as an issue of police brutality. Framing the issue that way would get a lot more people on board and bring about the changes we need sooner rather than later.Stop doing stupid things around cops!http://time.com/3814602/south-carolina-walter-scott-police-shooting-attorney/
Martin and Brown Attorney: How Many More Videos Will It Take, America?
Benjamin Crump April 8, 2015
(Benjamin Crump is an attorney who represents the families of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and Tamir Rice.)
We must stop taking the standard police narrative at face value
What started out as a routine traffic stop quickly escalated into the death of Walter Scott. The city of North Charleston, S.C., was all too willing to accept the officers version of events, even though the physical evidence clearly showed that the officer had fired eight shots, with four of the eight shots fired hitting Scott in the back.
Far too often the police come up with the same narrative: I felt threatened, I felt afraid, the victim struggled with me, he reached for my gun. This is the same old story from officers that shoot unarmed black men. If not for the video, the officer would have been believed and his story would never have been questioned by the justice system or city officials.
Ive represented dozens of families of unarmed people of color who have been killed by police officers. And if I had a dollar for every time the reason given by the police was that they reached for my weapon or they attacked me and I felt in fear for my life, I wouldnt have enough room in my pockets. Whats sad is how often the police narrative is accepted, with no one but the family raising questions. The death of an unarmed individual is swept under the rug. Walter Scotts death was well on the way to being swept under the rugbut for the video. Therein lies the problem.
This video was shocking to much of America, but for many of us it was a scene we have experienced so many times in our communities that we werent shocked at all. When I saw it, I imagined how many times evidence has been planted, how many times untrue stories have been given as official statements, to help justify the killing of innocent people of color. Without the video it would be difficult for us to ascertain exactly what did occur, the mayor of the North Charleston, Keith Summey, said. But is that really true? I do not agree that it would be difficult. An unarmed black man is shot multiple times from behind while he is fleeing from an officer? That does not point to justified use of deadly force.If this video shocked you, how about the video of the beating of Floyd Dent in Inkster, Mich., or the video of the fatal shooting of Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Ohio? What about the video of the shooting of Antonio Zambrano-Montes in Pasco, Washington, and the video of the beating of Alesia Thomas, in Los Angeles, both of whom later died?
Why are we still automatically accepting the police narrative? How many shocking videos of police misconduct do we need to show you, America, before you quit accepting the narrative?
North Charleston Police Chief Eddie Driggers, referring to his officers, said, One does not throw a blanket across the many. I agree with this statement. It should also apply to black men and all people of color.
There is a blanket of distrust, disrespect and indifference that has been thrown across black men in America. And it is resulting in too many deaths at hands of armed police officers who claim they are afraid
Floyd Dent - WTH are you doing trying to open your door on a traffic stop?
Tamir Rice - don't play with toy guns in public and certainly don't reach for it when the cops arrive.
Antonio Zambrano-Montes - WTH are you throwing rocks when cops have their guns pointed at you?
Alesia Thomas - don't resist arrest - cops have no sense of appropriate force and treat every suspect like they're Marshawn Lynch. Also, don't abandon your kids at the police station.
Are you ####### kidding me with the Tamir Rice incident?Stop doing stupid things around cops!http://time.com/3814602/south-carolina-walter-scott-police-shooting-attorney/
Martin and Brown Attorney: How Many More Videos Will It Take, America?
Benjamin Crump April 8, 2015
(Benjamin Crump is an attorney who represents the families of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and Tamir Rice.)
We must stop taking the standard police narrative at face value
What started out as a routine traffic stop quickly escalated into the death of Walter Scott. The city of North Charleston, S.C., was all too willing to accept the officers version of events, even though the physical evidence clearly showed that the officer had fired eight shots, with four of the eight shots fired hitting Scott in the back.
Far too often the police come up with the same narrative: I felt threatened, I felt afraid, the victim struggled with me, he reached for my gun. This is the same old story from officers that shoot unarmed black men. If not for the video, the officer would have been believed and his story would never have been questioned by the justice system or city officials.
Ive represented dozens of families of unarmed people of color who have been killed by police officers. And if I had a dollar for every time the reason given by the police was that they reached for my weapon or they attacked me and I felt in fear for my life, I wouldnt have enough room in my pockets. Whats sad is how often the police narrative is accepted, with no one but the family raising questions. The death of an unarmed individual is swept under the rug. Walter Scotts death was well on the way to being swept under the rugbut for the video. Therein lies the problem.
This video was shocking to much of America, but for many of us it was a scene we have experienced so many times in our communities that we werent shocked at all. When I saw it, I imagined how many times evidence has been planted, how many times untrue stories have been given as official statements, to help justify the killing of innocent people of color. Without the video it would be difficult for us to ascertain exactly what did occur, the mayor of the North Charleston, Keith Summey, said. But is that really true? I do not agree that it would be difficult. An unarmed black man is shot multiple times from behind while he is fleeing from an officer? That does not point to justified use of deadly force.
If this video shocked you, how about the video of the beating of Floyd Dent in Inkster, Mich., or the video of the fatal shooting of Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Ohio? What about the video of the shooting of Antonio Zambrano-Montes in Pasco, Washington, and the video of the beating of Alesia Thomas, in Los Angeles, both of whom later died?
Why are we still automatically accepting the police narrative? How many shocking videos of police misconduct do we need to show you, America, before you quit accepting the narrative?
North Charleston Police Chief Eddie Driggers, referring to his officers, said, One does not throw a blanket across the many. I agree with this statement. It should also apply to black men and all people of color.
There is a blanket of distrust, disrespect and indifference that has been thrown across black men in America. And it is resulting in too many deaths at hands of armed police officers who claim they are afraid
Floyd Dent - WTH are you doing trying to open your door on a traffic stop?
Tamir Rice - don't play with toy guns in public and certainly don't reach for it when the cops arrive.
Antonio Zambrano-Montes - WTH are you throwing rocks when cops have their guns pointed at you?
Alesia Thomas - don't resist arrest - cops have no sense of appropriate force and treat every suspect like they're Marshawn Lynch. Also, don't abandon your kids at the police station.
According to the State, thought crimes are indeed actual crimes (hate crime laws).People are more concerned about the (perceived)intent than the actual crime.We jumped awfully quickly to this being an act of racism didn't we? Do we have any evidence that the cop here was racist? Past testimony of friends, affiliation with white supremacist groups, use of racial epithets, questionnable emails or website usage? Anything? Or are we now automatically assuming that every time a white-on-black crime is committed it must be racism? Is it possible - just possible - that race had nothing to do with this?I wish to God we had some intelligent leadership in this movement with the foresight to paint this not as an issue of racism but as an issue of police brutality. Framing the issue that way would get a lot more people on board and bring about the changes we need sooner rather than later.Stop doing stupid things around cops!http://time.com/3814602/south-carolina-walter-scott-police-shooting-attorney/
Martin and Brown Attorney: How Many More Videos Will It Take, America?
Benjamin Crump April 8, 2015
(Benjamin Crump is an attorney who represents the families of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and Tamir Rice.)
We must stop taking the standard police narrative at face value
What started out as a routine traffic stop quickly escalated into the death of Walter Scott. The city of North Charleston, S.C., was all too willing to accept the officers version of events, even though the physical evidence clearly showed that the officer had fired eight shots, with four of the eight shots fired hitting Scott in the back.
Far too often the police come up with the same narrative: I felt threatened, I felt afraid, the victim struggled with me, he reached for my gun. This is the same old story from officers that shoot unarmed black men. If not for the video, the officer would have been believed and his story would never have been questioned by the justice system or city officials.
Ive represented dozens of families of unarmed people of color who have been killed by police officers. And if I had a dollar for every time the reason given by the police was that they reached for my weapon or they attacked me and I felt in fear for my life, I wouldnt have enough room in my pockets. Whats sad is how often the police narrative is accepted, with no one but the family raising questions. The death of an unarmed individual is swept under the rug. Walter Scotts death was well on the way to being swept under the rugbut for the video. Therein lies the problem.
This video was shocking to much of America, but for many of us it was a scene we have experienced so many times in our communities that we werent shocked at all. When I saw it, I imagined how many times evidence has been planted, how many times untrue stories have been given as official statements, to help justify the killing of innocent people of color. Without the video it would be difficult for us to ascertain exactly what did occur, the mayor of the North Charleston, Keith Summey, said. But is that really true? I do not agree that it would be difficult. An unarmed black man is shot multiple times from behind while he is fleeing from an officer? That does not point to justified use of deadly force.If this video shocked you, how about the video of the beating of Floyd Dent in Inkster, Mich., or the video of the fatal shooting of Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Ohio? What about the video of the shooting of Antonio Zambrano-Montes in Pasco, Washington, and the video of the beating of Alesia Thomas, in Los Angeles, both of whom later died?
Why are we still automatically accepting the police narrative? How many shocking videos of police misconduct do we need to show you, America, before you quit accepting the narrative?
North Charleston Police Chief Eddie Driggers, referring to his officers, said, One does not throw a blanket across the many. I agree with this statement. It should also apply to black men and all people of color.
There is a blanket of distrust, disrespect and indifference that has been thrown across black men in America. And it is resulting in too many deaths at hands of armed police officers who claim they are afraid
Floyd Dent - WTH are you doing trying to open your door on a traffic stop?
Tamir Rice - don't play with toy guns in public and certainly don't reach for it when the cops arrive.
Antonio Zambrano-Montes - WTH are you throwing rocks when cops have their guns pointed at you?
Alesia Thomas - don't resist arrest - cops have no sense of appropriate force and treat every suspect like they're Marshawn Lynch. Also, don't abandon your kids at the police station.
And I have no problem at all invoking hate crimes if and when they occur. But this incessant pulling of the race card has gotten so ridiculous that people automatically accept it as unchallenged fact that all these instances of police brutality are acts of racism. Sorry, but if racism was as persistent a problem as these people claim, it would be reflected in the broader crime statistics with high white-on-black crime rates. But it's not. In fact, the numbers are highly skewed the other way. But who needs facts when you have the media and race-baiting activists whipping everyone into a frenzy. Let's just believe the worst in people and make the dividing lines even wider. It's sickening.According to the State, thought crimes are indeed actual crimes (hate crime laws).People are more concerned about the (perceived)intent than the actual crime.We jumped awfully quickly to this being an act of racism didn't we? Do we have any evidence that the cop here was racist? Past testimony of friends, affiliation with white supremacist groups, use of racial epithets, questionnable emails or website usage? Anything? Or are we now automatically assuming that every time a white-on-black crime is committed it must be racism? Is it possible - just possible - that race had nothing to do with this?I wish to God we had some intelligent leadership in this movement with the foresight to paint this not as an issue of racism but as an issue of police brutality. Framing the issue that way would get a lot more people on board and bring about the changes we need sooner rather than later.Stop doing stupid things around cops!http://time.com/3814602/south-carolina-walter-scott-police-shooting-attorney/
Martin and Brown Attorney: How Many More Videos Will It Take, America?
Benjamin Crump April 8, 2015
(Benjamin Crump is an attorney who represents the families of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and Tamir Rice.)
We must stop taking the standard police narrative at face value
What started out as a routine traffic stop quickly escalated into the death of Walter Scott. The city of North Charleston, S.C., was all too willing to accept the officers version of events, even though the physical evidence clearly showed that the officer had fired eight shots, with four of the eight shots fired hitting Scott in the back.
Far too often the police come up with the same narrative: I felt threatened, I felt afraid, the victim struggled with me, he reached for my gun. This is the same old story from officers that shoot unarmed black men. If not for the video, the officer would have been believed and his story would never have been questioned by the justice system or city officials.
Ive represented dozens of families of unarmed people of color who have been killed by police officers. And if I had a dollar for every time the reason given by the police was that they reached for my weapon or they attacked me and I felt in fear for my life, I wouldnt have enough room in my pockets. Whats sad is how often the police narrative is accepted, with no one but the family raising questions. The death of an unarmed individual is swept under the rug. Walter Scotts death was well on the way to being swept under the rugbut for the video. Therein lies the problem.
This video was shocking to much of America, but for many of us it was a scene we have experienced so many times in our communities that we werent shocked at all. When I saw it, I imagined how many times evidence has been planted, how many times untrue stories have been given as official statements, to help justify the killing of innocent people of color. Without the video it would be difficult for us to ascertain exactly what did occur, the mayor of the North Charleston, Keith Summey, said. But is that really true? I do not agree that it would be difficult. An unarmed black man is shot multiple times from behind while he is fleeing from an officer? That does not point to justified use of deadly force.If this video shocked you, how about the video of the beating of Floyd Dent in Inkster, Mich., or the video of the fatal shooting of Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Ohio? What about the video of the shooting of Antonio Zambrano-Montes in Pasco, Washington, and the video of the beating of Alesia Thomas, in Los Angeles, both of whom later died?
Why are we still automatically accepting the police narrative? How many shocking videos of police misconduct do we need to show you, America, before you quit accepting the narrative?
North Charleston Police Chief Eddie Driggers, referring to his officers, said, One does not throw a blanket across the many. I agree with this statement. It should also apply to black men and all people of color.
There is a blanket of distrust, disrespect and indifference that has been thrown across black men in America. And it is resulting in too many deaths at hands of armed police officers who claim they are afraid
Floyd Dent - WTH are you doing trying to open your door on a traffic stop?
Tamir Rice - don't play with toy guns in public and certainly don't reach for it when the cops arrive.
Antonio Zambrano-Montes - WTH are you throwing rocks when cops have their guns pointed at you?
Alesia Thomas - don't resist arrest - cops have no sense of appropriate force and treat every suspect like they're Marshawn Lynch. Also, don't abandon your kids at the police station.
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Racism comes in many forms. Doesnt necessarily have to be so overt. People arent instantly saying, this cop was racist. People are saying something is wrong with the system that seems to be leading to many of these incidents occurring, and needs to be looked at because there might be some institutional racism at play. its not always so cut and dry that the cop is a racist.And I have no problem at all invoking hate crimes if and when they occur. But this incessant pulling of the race card has gotten so ridiculous that people automatically accept it as unchallenged fact that all these instances of police brutality are acts of racism. Sorry, but if racism was as persistent a problem as these people claim, it would be reflected in the broader crime statistics with high white-on-black crime rates. But it's not. In fact, the numbers are highly skewed the other way. But who needs facts when you have the media and race-baiting activists whipping everyone into a frenzy. Let's just believe the worst in people and make the dividing lines even wider. It's sickening.According to the State, thought crimes are indeed actual crimes (hate crime laws).People are more concerned about the (perceived)intent than the actual crime.We jumped awfully quickly to this being an act of racism didn't we? Do we have any evidence that the cop here was racist? Past testimony of friends, affiliation with white supremacist groups, use of racial epithets, questionnable emails or website usage? Anything? Or are we now automatically assuming that every time a white-on-black crime is committed it must be racism? Is it possible - just possible - that race had nothing to do with this?I wish to God we had some intelligent leadership in this movement with the foresight to paint this not as an issue of racism but as an issue of police brutality. Framing the issue that way would get a lot more people on board and bring about the changes we need sooner rather than later.Stop doing stupid things around cops!http://time.com/3814602/south-carolina-walter-scott-police-shooting-attorney/
Martin and Brown Attorney: How Many More Videos Will It Take, America?
Benjamin Crump April 8, 2015
(Benjamin Crump is an attorney who represents the families of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and Tamir Rice.)
We must stop taking the standard police narrative at face value
What started out as a routine traffic stop quickly escalated into the death of Walter Scott. The city of North Charleston, S.C., was all too willing to accept the officers version of events, even though the physical evidence clearly showed that the officer had fired eight shots, with four of the eight shots fired hitting Scott in the back.
Far too often the police come up with the same narrative: I felt threatened, I felt afraid, the victim struggled with me, he reached for my gun. This is the same old story from officers that shoot unarmed black men. If not for the video, the officer would have been believed and his story would never have been questioned by the justice system or city officials.
Ive represented dozens of families of unarmed people of color who have been killed by police officers. And if I had a dollar for every time the reason given by the police was that they reached for my weapon or they attacked me and I felt in fear for my life, I wouldnt have enough room in my pockets. Whats sad is how often the police narrative is accepted, with no one but the family raising questions. The death of an unarmed individual is swept under the rug. Walter Scotts death was well on the way to being swept under the rugbut for the video. Therein lies the problem.
This video was shocking to much of America, but for many of us it was a scene we have experienced so many times in our communities that we werent shocked at all. When I saw it, I imagined how many times evidence has been planted, how many times untrue stories have been given as official statements, to help justify the killing of innocent people of color. Without the video it would be difficult for us to ascertain exactly what did occur, the mayor of the North Charleston, Keith Summey, said. But is that really true? I do not agree that it would be difficult. An unarmed black man is shot multiple times from behind while he is fleeing from an officer? That does not point to justified use of deadly force.If this video shocked you, how about the video of the beating of Floyd Dent in Inkster, Mich., or the video of the fatal shooting of Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Ohio? What about the video of the shooting of Antonio Zambrano-Montes in Pasco, Washington, and the video of the beating of Alesia Thomas, in Los Angeles, both of whom later died?
Why are we still automatically accepting the police narrative? How many shocking videos of police misconduct do we need to show you, America, before you quit accepting the narrative?
North Charleston Police Chief Eddie Driggers, referring to his officers, said, One does not throw a blanket across the many. I agree with this statement. It should also apply to black men and all people of color.
There is a blanket of distrust, disrespect and indifference that has been thrown across black men in America. And it is resulting in too many deaths at hands of armed police officers who claim they are afraid
Floyd Dent - WTH are you doing trying to open your door on a traffic stop?
Tamir Rice - don't play with toy guns in public and certainly don't reach for it when the cops arrive.
Antonio Zambrano-Montes - WTH are you throwing rocks when cops have their guns pointed at you?
Alesia Thomas - don't resist arrest - cops have no sense of appropriate force and treat every suspect like they're Marshawn Lynch. Also, don't abandon your kids at the police station.
because hes watching a cop kill a black man in cold blood ...im just guessing here but id say he doesnt trust cops ...any cops
I do have a problem with hate crime laws. The criminal should be prosecuted for his actions, not what he was thinking when he acted.And I have no problem at all invoking hate crimes if and when they occur. But this incessant pulling of the race card has gotten so ridiculous that people automatically accept it as unchallenged fact that all these instances of police brutality are acts of racism. Sorry, but if racism was as persistent a problem as these people claim, it would be reflected in the broader crime statistics with high white-on-black crime rates. But it's not. In fact, the numbers are highly skewed the other way. But who needs facts when you have the media and race-baiting activists whipping everyone into a frenzy. Let's just believe the worst in people and make the dividing lines even wider. It's sickening.According to the State, thought crimes are indeed actual crimes (hate crime laws).People are more concerned about the (perceived)intent than the actual crime.We jumped awfully quickly to this being an act of racism didn't we? Do we have any evidence that the cop here was racist? Past testimony of friends, affiliation with white supremacist groups, use of racial epithets, questionnable emails or website usage? Anything? Or are we now automatically assuming that every time a white-on-black crime is committed it must be racism? Is it possible - just possible - that race had nothing to do with this?I wish to God we had some intelligent leadership in this movement with the foresight to paint this not as an issue of racism but as an issue of police brutality. Framing the issue that way would get a lot more people on board and bring about the changes we need sooner rather than later.Stop doing stupid things around cops!http://time.com/3814602/south-carolina-walter-scott-police-shooting-attorney/
Martin and Brown Attorney: How Many More Videos Will It Take, America?
Benjamin Crump April 8, 2015
(Benjamin Crump is an attorney who represents the families of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and Tamir Rice.)
We must stop taking the standard police narrative at face value
What started out as a routine traffic stop quickly escalated into the death of Walter Scott. The city of North Charleston, S.C., was all too willing to accept the officers version of events, even though the physical evidence clearly showed that the officer had fired eight shots, with four of the eight shots fired hitting Scott in the back.
Far too often the police come up with the same narrative: I felt threatened, I felt afraid, the victim struggled with me, he reached for my gun. This is the same old story from officers that shoot unarmed black men. If not for the video, the officer would have been believed and his story would never have been questioned by the justice system or city officials.
Ive represented dozens of families of unarmed people of color who have been killed by police officers. And if I had a dollar for every time the reason given by the police was that they reached for my weapon or they attacked me and I felt in fear for my life, I wouldnt have enough room in my pockets. Whats sad is how often the police narrative is accepted, with no one but the family raising questions. The death of an unarmed individual is swept under the rug. Walter Scotts death was well on the way to being swept under the rugbut for the video. Therein lies the problem.
This video was shocking to much of America, but for many of us it was a scene we have experienced so many times in our communities that we werent shocked at all. When I saw it, I imagined how many times evidence has been planted, how many times untrue stories have been given as official statements, to help justify the killing of innocent people of color. Without the video it would be difficult for us to ascertain exactly what did occur, the mayor of the North Charleston, Keith Summey, said. But is that really true? I do not agree that it would be difficult. An unarmed black man is shot multiple times from behind while he is fleeing from an officer? That does not point to justified use of deadly force.If this video shocked you, how about the video of the beating of Floyd Dent in Inkster, Mich., or the video of the fatal shooting of Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Ohio? What about the video of the shooting of Antonio Zambrano-Montes in Pasco, Washington, and the video of the beating of Alesia Thomas, in Los Angeles, both of whom later died?
Why are we still automatically accepting the police narrative? How many shocking videos of police misconduct do we need to show you, America, before you quit accepting the narrative?
North Charleston Police Chief Eddie Driggers, referring to his officers, said, One does not throw a blanket across the many. I agree with this statement. It should also apply to black men and all people of color.
There is a blanket of distrust, disrespect and indifference that has been thrown across black men in America. And it is resulting in too many deaths at hands of armed police officers who claim they are afraid
Floyd Dent - WTH are you doing trying to open your door on a traffic stop?
Tamir Rice - don't play with toy guns in public and certainly don't reach for it when the cops arrive.
Antonio Zambrano-Montes - WTH are you throwing rocks when cops have their guns pointed at you?
Alesia Thomas - don't resist arrest - cops have no sense of appropriate force and treat every suspect like they're Marshawn Lynch. Also, don't abandon your kids at the police station.
I'm struggling to figure out what there have been 9 pages of posts about. And how there has been disagreement about anything.The police officer murdered/killed the "suspect" in cold blood.
End of story, no?
It's more than obvious, IMO.
i havent seen anyone disagreeing with each other about the guilt of the cop...more just discussing the nuances of the laws and what notI'm struggling to figure out what there have been 9 pages of posts about. And how there has been disagreement about anything.The police officer murdered/killed the "suspect" in cold blood.
End of story, no?
It's more than obvious, IMO.
I guess the city of Cleveland is a ducking basswhole, too:Are you ####### kidding me with the Tamir Rice incident?Stop doing stupid things around cops!http://time.com/3814602/south-carolina-walter-scott-police-shooting-attorney/
Martin and Brown Attorney: How Many More Videos Will It Take, America?
Benjamin Crump April 8, 2015
(Benjamin Crump is an attorney who represents the families of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and Tamir Rice.)
We must stop taking the standard police narrative at face value
What started out as a routine traffic stop quickly escalated into the death of Walter Scott. The city of North Charleston, S.C., was all too willing to accept the officers version of events, even though the physical evidence clearly showed that the officer had fired eight shots, with four of the eight shots fired hitting Scott in the back.
Far too often the police come up with the same narrative: I felt threatened, I felt afraid, the victim struggled with me, he reached for my gun. This is the same old story from officers that shoot unarmed black men. If not for the video, the officer would have been believed and his story would never have been questioned by the justice system or city officials.
Ive represented dozens of families of unarmed people of color who have been killed by police officers. And if I had a dollar for every time the reason given by the police was that they reached for my weapon or they attacked me and I felt in fear for my life, I wouldnt have enough room in my pockets. Whats sad is how often the police narrative is accepted, with no one but the family raising questions. The death of an unarmed individual is swept under the rug. Walter Scotts death was well on the way to being swept under the rugbut for the video. Therein lies the problem.
This video was shocking to much of America, but for many of us it was a scene we have experienced so many times in our communities that we werent shocked at all. When I saw it, I imagined how many times evidence has been planted, how many times untrue stories have been given as official statements, to help justify the killing of innocent people of color. Without the video it would be difficult for us to ascertain exactly what did occur, the mayor of the North Charleston, Keith Summey, said. But is that really true? I do not agree that it would be difficult. An unarmed black man is shot multiple times from behind while he is fleeing from an officer? That does not point to justified use of deadly force.
If this video shocked you, how about the video of the beating of Floyd Dent in Inkster, Mich., or the video of the fatal shooting of Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Ohio? What about the video of the shooting of Antonio Zambrano-Montes in Pasco, Washington, and the video of the beating of Alesia Thomas, in Los Angeles, both of whom later died?
Why are we still automatically accepting the police narrative? How many shocking videos of police misconduct do we need to show you, America, before you quit accepting the narrative?
North Charleston Police Chief Eddie Driggers, referring to his officers, said, One does not throw a blanket across the many. I agree with this statement. It should also apply to black men and all people of color.
There is a blanket of distrust, disrespect and indifference that has been thrown across black men in America. And it is resulting in too many deaths at hands of armed police officers who claim they are afraid
Floyd Dent - WTH are you doing trying to open your door on a traffic stop?
Tamir Rice - don't play with toy guns in public and certainly don't reach for it when the cops arrive.
Antonio Zambrano-Montes - WTH are you throwing rocks when cops have their guns pointed at you?
Alesia Thomas - don't resist arrest - cops have no sense of appropriate force and treat every suspect like they're Marshawn Lynch. Also, don't abandon your kids at the police station.
You have grown ### men walking around in public with AR-15’s in Texas yet they managed not to get shot to death.
Some crazy old dude in Michigan holding a gun and daring the police to shoot him yet he doesn’t get shot to death
But a 12 year old playing with a ####### toy gets gunned down and you blame him for being a ####### 12 year old kid.
You are a ####### ####### rhymes with ducking basswhole
In the court filing, which was a formal response from the city to a federal lawsuit by the Rice family, city attorneys declare that Tamir and his family “were directly and proximately caused by their own acts. . .,” and added that Tamir caused his own death “by the failure. . . to exercise due care to avoid injury.”
Boy, I say boy, there's this thing called reading instead of declaring. And boy, I say boy, you ought try it.I'm struggling to figure out what there have been 9 pages of posts about. And how there has been disagreement about anything.The police officer murdered/killed the "suspect" in cold blood.
End of story, no?
It's more than obvious, IMO.
I don't really see how what you wrote there doesn't equal racism.On NPR yesterday they had a professor on who did a study of people choosing to use deadly force when confronted with black or white threats. The "threats" either were either legitimate (holding a gun), or harmless (holding a wallet or cell phone). On average the participants fired more often and in a shorter amount of time at the black threats rather than the white ones. This included participants who were themselves African-American (I can't remember if the participants were police officers or just regular citizens).
To me this illustrates how this is a thornier issue than mere racism. While the idea of profiling may be distasteful, unethical and possibly even illegal, it appears to be an integral part of how we, as humans, process the world around us. For whatever reason black men are perceived as more threatening, even to other blacks.
I am in no way defending what this officer did, he may be a simple redneck racist for all I know. I'm just pointing out that the issue of race in these shootings may be more complicated than white cops being racist or not. They may just be human. Solving this problem might be much more difficult than simply weeding out the "bad apples".
As an aside, they also had a black officer on who was involved in some of the sensitivity (or whatever it's called) training that always seems to follow in the wake of these shootings. He said it was a waste of time. It seems to serve more as a means to placate the community outrage than anything.
I'm trying to find a link to this but it's proving more challenging than I imagined. It was certainly thought provoking.
This is why people don't want to have a conversation about race in this country.I don't really see how what you wrote there doesn't equal racism.On NPR yesterday they had a professor on who did a study of people choosing to use deadly force when confronted with black or white threats. The "threats" either were either legitimate (holding a gun), or harmless (holding a wallet or cell phone). On average the participants fired more often and in a shorter amount of time at the black threats rather than the white ones. This included participants who were themselves African-American (I can't remember if the participants were police officers or just regular citizens).
To me this illustrates how this is a thornier issue than mere racism. While the idea of profiling may be distasteful, unethical and possibly even illegal, it appears to be an integral part of how we, as humans, process the world around us. For whatever reason black men are perceived as more threatening, even to other blacks.
I am in no way defending what this officer did, he may be a simple redneck racist for all I know. I'm just pointing out that the issue of race in these shootings may be more complicated than white cops being racist or not. They may just be human. Solving this problem might be much more difficult than simply weeding out the "bad apples".
As an aside, they also had a black officer on who was involved in some of the sensitivity (or whatever it's called) training that always seems to follow in the wake of these shootings. He said it was a waste of time. It seems to serve more as a means to placate the community outrage than anything.
I'm trying to find a link to this but it's proving more challenging than I imagined. It was certainly thought provoking.
Yeah, I think most people would admit that a person can be racist without walking around and yelling the n-word, and those more subtle types of racism can really impact our behaviors. It's an interesting experience to take the Implicit Bias Test, particularly the test about race.On NPR yesterday they had a professor on who did a study of people choosing to use deadly force when confronted with black or white threats. The "threats" either were either legitimate (holding a gun), or harmless (holding a wallet or cell phone). On average the participants fired more often and in a shorter amount of time at the black threats rather than the white ones. This included participants who were themselves African-American (I can't remember if the participants were police officers or just regular citizens).
To me this illustrates how this is a thornier issue than mere racism. While the idea of profiling may be distasteful, unethical and possibly even illegal, it appears to be an integral part of how we, as humans, process the world around us. For whatever reason black men are perceived as more threatening, even to other blacks.
I am in no way defending what this officer did, he may be a simple redneck racist for all I know. I'm just pointing out that the issue of race in these shootings may be more complicated than white cops being racist or not. They may just be human. Solving this problem might be much more difficult than simply weeding out the "bad apples".
As an aside, they also had a black officer on who was involved in some of the sensitivity (or whatever it's called) training that always seems to follow in the wake of these shootings. He said it was a waste of time. It seems to serve more as a means to placate the community outrage than anything.
I'm trying to find a link to this but it's proving more challenging than I imagined. It was certainly thought provoking.
What you describe is unconscious, covert and/or institutional racism. And yes, one can be racist against their own race.Unconscious racism, perhaps. But if everyone is unconsciously racist it ceases to have any meaning, at least in the traditional sense. Can one be racist against one's own race?I don't really see how what you wrote there doesn't equal racism.On NPR yesterday they had a professor on who did a study of people choosing to use deadly force when confronted with black or white threats. The "threats" either were either legitimate (holding a gun), or harmless (holding a wallet or cell phone). On average the participants fired more often and in a shorter amount of time at the black threats rather than the white ones. This included participants who were themselves African-American (I can't remember if the participants were police officers or just regular citizens).
To me this illustrates how this is a thornier issue than mere racism. While the idea of profiling may be distasteful, unethical and possibly even illegal, it appears to be an integral part of how we, as humans, process the world around us. For whatever reason black men are perceived as more threatening, even to other blacks.
I am in no way defending what this officer did, he may be a simple redneck racist for all I know. I'm just pointing out that the issue of race in these shootings may be more complicated than white cops being racist or not. They may just be human. Solving this problem might be much more difficult than simply weeding out the "bad apples".
As an aside, they also had a black officer on who was involved in some of the sensitivity (or whatever it's called) training that always seems to follow in the wake of these shootings. He said it was a waste of time. It seems to serve more as a means to placate the community outrage than anything.
I'm trying to find a link to this but it's proving more challenging than I imagined. It was certainly thought provoking.
Unconscious racism like say having a black pimp as your avatar or maybe a black guy with a gun? You know, reinforcing those negative stereotypes.
I think that's the thing. I don't think cops think all black people are dangerous but when they go into a ghetto part of town with predominately black population they are going have their guard up. Is that racist? I don't think so.Unconscious racism like say having a black pimp as your avatar or maybe a black guy with a gun? You know, reinforcing those negative stereotypes.
My name is a nod to a hilarious character from the movie Friday. Is it a negative stereotype? Sure. Now if i had never met a black person, and assumed based on that movie(or my profile) all black people were pimps that carry guns and ride in pink limos and discriminated against them(maybe not rent them an apt for fear they will bring their ho's) based on that, it would be unconscious racism.
If processing danger, a primal human instinct, is racist then racism becomes nothing more than a process of self-flagellation.This is why people don't want to have a conversation about race in this country.I don't really see how what you wrote there doesn't equal racism.On NPR yesterday they had a professor on who did a study of people choosing to use deadly force when confronted with black or white threats. The "threats" either were either legitimate (holding a gun), or harmless (holding a wallet or cell phone). On average the participants fired more often and in a shorter amount of time at the black threats rather than the white ones. This included participants who were themselves African-American (I can't remember if the participants were police officers or just regular citizens).
To me this illustrates how this is a thornier issue than mere racism. While the idea of profiling may be distasteful, unethical and possibly even illegal, it appears to be an integral part of how we, as humans, process the world around us. For whatever reason black men are perceived as more threatening, even to other blacks.
I am in no way defending what this officer did, he may be a simple redneck racist for all I know. I'm just pointing out that the issue of race in these shootings may be more complicated than white cops being racist or not. They may just be human. Solving this problem might be much more difficult than simply weeding out the "bad apples".
As an aside, they also had a black officer on who was involved in some of the sensitivity (or whatever it's called) training that always seems to follow in the wake of these shootings. He said it was a waste of time. It seems to serve more as a means to placate the community outrage than anything.
I'm trying to find a link to this but it's proving more challenging than I imagined. It was certainly thought provoking.
But this type of thing happens on all types of neighborhoods. We have seen plenty of times a minority in a nice neighborhood be profiled for example. I believe there are also studies where in the same part of town police tend to be more violent with minorities. What about the studies that show that resumes with "black" names being less likely to get an interview. They aren't likely saying they are black, i don't want to interview them. But if subconsciously this is the case, its racism. Its not just cops that seem to be the problem, its just that this unconscious racism at the hand of a cop, due to what they do can result in death, which is a much more noticeable problem then not being hired, or not being allowed to rent an apartment.I think that's the thing. I don't think cops think all black people are dangerous but when they go into a ghetto part of town with predominately black population they are going have their guard up. Is that racist? I don't think so.Unconscious racism like say having a black pimp as your avatar or maybe a black guy with a gun? You know, reinforcing those negative stereotypes.
My name is a nod to a hilarious character from the movie Friday. Is it a negative stereotype? Sure. Now if i had never met a black person, and assumed based on that movie(or my profile) all black people were pimps that carry guns and ride in pink limos and discriminated against them(maybe not rent them an apt for fear they will bring their ho's) based on that, it would be unconscious racism.
I'm amazed at the people who can't put 2+2 together.Dash cam (not sure whether it's been posted yet):
http://youtu.be/MYaYdaFFLoQ
Interesting that the officer yells "Tazer! Tazer! Tazer!" as he's chasing Scott. Unclear whether he discharged it or not during the pursuit.
Also, Sublime soundtrack is a nice touch.
Human beings profile whether it's skin color, dress, posture, facial expressions, hair style, etc. We're all one race FTR.I don't really see how what you wrote there doesn't equal racism.On NPR yesterday they had a professor on who did a study of people choosing to use deadly force when confronted with black or white threats. The "threats" either were either legitimate (holding a gun), or harmless (holding a wallet or cell phone). On average the participants fired more often and in a shorter amount of time at the black threats rather than the white ones. This included participants who were themselves African-American (I can't remember if the participants were police officers or just regular citizens).
To me this illustrates how this is a thornier issue than mere racism. While the idea of profiling may be distasteful, unethical and possibly even illegal, it appears to be an integral part of how we, as humans, process the world around us. For whatever reason black men are perceived as more threatening, even to other blacks.
I am in no way defending what this officer did, he may be a simple redneck racist for all I know. I'm just pointing out that the issue of race in these shootings may be more complicated than white cops being racist or not. They may just be human. Solving this problem might be much more difficult than simply weeding out the "bad apples".
As an aside, they also had a black officer on who was involved in some of the sensitivity (or whatever it's called) training that always seems to follow in the wake of these shootings. He said it was a waste of time. It seems to serve more as a means to placate the community outrage than anything.
I'm trying to find a link to this but it's proving more challenging than I imagined. It was certainly thought provoking.
Statistically speaking blacks commit more crimes than other races, correct? Inevitably this is going to lead to profiling. I don't know how you avoid that.But this type of thing happens on all types of neighborhoods. We have seen plenty of times a minority in a nice neighborhood be profiled for example. I believe there are also studies where in the same part of town police tend to be more violent with minorities. What about the studies that show that resumes with "black" names being less likely to get an interview. They aren't likely saying they are black, i don't want to interview them. But if subconsciously this is the case, its racism. Its not just cops that seem to be the problem, its just that this unconscious racism at the hand of a cop, due to what they do can result in death, which is a much more noticeable problem then not being hired, or not being allowed to rent an apartment.I think that's the thing. I don't think cops think all black people are dangerous but when they go into a ghetto part of town with predominately black population they are going have their guard up. Is that racist? I don't think so.Unconscious racism like say having a black pimp as your avatar or maybe a black guy with a gun? You know, reinforcing those negative stereotypes.
My name is a nod to a hilarious character from the movie Friday. Is it a negative stereotype? Sure. Now if i had never met a black person, and assumed based on that movie(or my profile) all black people were pimps that carry guns and ride in pink limos and discriminated against them(maybe not rent them an apt for fear they will bring their ho's) based on that, it would be unconscious racism.
Unfortunately i don't think there is an easy way to solve this problem.
Actually, statistically speaking, blacks and whites use some illegal drugs at similar rates, with whites using at higher rates for some drugs. But blacks are arrested and convicted at much higher rates for crimes related to those drugs. Draw your own conclusions.Statistically speaking blacks commit more crimes than other races, correct? Inevitably this is going to lead to profiling. I don't know how you avoid that.But this type of thing happens on all types of neighborhoods. We have seen plenty of times a minority in a nice neighborhood be profiled for example. I believe there are also studies where in the same part of town police tend to be more violent with minorities. What about the studies that show that resumes with "black" names being less likely to get an interview. They aren't likely saying they are black, i don't want to interview them. But if subconsciously this is the case, its racism. Its not just cops that seem to be the problem, its just that this unconscious racism at the hand of a cop, due to what they do can result in death, which is a much more noticeable problem then not being hired, or not being allowed to rent an apartment.I think that's the thing. I don't think cops think all black people are dangerous but when they go into a ghetto part of town with predominately black population they are going have their guard up. Is that racist? I don't think so.Unconscious racism like say having a black pimp as your avatar or maybe a black guy with a gun? You know, reinforcing those negative stereotypes.
My name is a nod to a hilarious character from the movie Friday. Is it a negative stereotype? Sure. Now if i had never met a black person, and assumed based on that movie(or my profile) all black people were pimps that carry guns and ride in pink limos and discriminated against them(maybe not rent them an apt for fear they will bring their ho's) based on that, it would be unconscious racism.
Unfortunately i don't think there is an easy way to solve this problem.
That's why I just wish we could discuss excessive use of force separate from the race issue. Show me a cop harassing a minority that's not resisting arrest, running, escalating the situation, etc and I'm right there on their side with everyone else.
SoActually, statistically speaking, blacks and whites use some illegal drugs at similar rates, with whites using at higher rates for some drugs. But blacks are arrested and convicted at much higher rates for crimes related to those drugs. Draw your own conclusions.Statistically speaking blacks commit more crimes than other races, correct? Inevitably this is going to lead to profiling. I don't know how you avoid that.But this type of thing happens on all types of neighborhoods. We have seen plenty of times a minority in a nice neighborhood be profiled for example. I believe there are also studies where in the same part of town police tend to be more violent with minorities. What about the studies that show that resumes with "black" names being less likely to get an interview. They aren't likely saying they are black, i don't want to interview them. But if subconsciously this is the case, its racism. Its not just cops that seem to be the problem, its just that this unconscious racism at the hand of a cop, due to what they do can result in death, which is a much more noticeable problem then not being hired, or not being allowed to rent an apartment.I think that's the thing. I don't think cops think all black people are dangerous but when they go into a ghetto part of town with predominately black population they are going have their guard up. Is that racist? I don't think so.Unconscious racism like say having a black pimp as your avatar or maybe a black guy with a gun? You know, reinforcing those negative stereotypes.
My name is a nod to a hilarious character from the movie Friday. Is it a negative stereotype? Sure. Now if i had never met a black person, and assumed based on that movie(or my profile) all black people were pimps that carry guns and ride in pink limos and discriminated against them(maybe not rent them an apt for fear they will bring their ho's) based on that, it would be unconscious racism.
Unfortunately i don't think there is an easy way to solve this problem.
That's why I just wish we could discuss excessive use of force separate from the race issue. Show me a cop harassing a minority that's not resisting arrest, running, escalating the situation, etc and I'm right there on their side with everyone else.
And those convictions lead to statistics which lead to people using those statistics to justify more profiling or possibly killing......Actually, statistically speaking, blacks and whites use some illegal drugs at similar rates, with whites using at higher rates for some drugs. But blacks are arrested and convicted at much higher rates for crimes related to those drugs. Draw your own conclusions.Statistically speaking blacks commit more crimes than other races, correct? Inevitably this is going to lead to profiling. I don't know how you avoid that.But this type of thing happens on all types of neighborhoods. We have seen plenty of times a minority in a nice neighborhood be profiled for example. I believe there are also studies where in the same part of town police tend to be more violent with minorities. What about the studies that show that resumes with "black" names being less likely to get an interview. They aren't likely saying they are black, i don't want to interview them. But if subconsciously this is the case, its racism. Its not just cops that seem to be the problem, its just that this unconscious racism at the hand of a cop, due to what they do can result in death, which is a much more noticeable problem then not being hired, or not being allowed to rent an apartment.I think that's the thing. I don't think cops think all black people are dangerous but when they go into a ghetto part of town with predominately black population they are going have their guard up. Is that racist? I don't think so.Unconscious racism like say having a black pimp as your avatar or maybe a black guy with a gun? You know, reinforcing those negative stereotypes.
My name is a nod to a hilarious character from the movie Friday. Is it a negative stereotype? Sure. Now if i had never met a black person, and assumed based on that movie(or my profile) all black people were pimps that carry guns and ride in pink limos and discriminated against them(maybe not rent them an apt for fear they will bring their ho's) based on that, it would be unconscious racism.
Unfortunately i don't think there is an easy way to solve this problem.
That's why I just wish we could discuss excessive use of force separate from the race issue. Show me a cop harassing a minority that's not resisting arrest, running, escalating the situation, etc and I'm right there on their side with everyone else.
SoActually, statistically speaking, blacks and whites use some illegal drugs at similar rates, with whites using at higher rates for some drugs. But blacks are arrested and convicted at much higher rates for crimes related to those drugs. Draw your own conclusions.Statistically speaking blacks commit more crimes than other races, correct? Inevitably this is going to lead to profiling. I don't know how you avoid that.But this type of thing happens on all types of neighborhoods. We have seen plenty of times a minority in a nice neighborhood be profiled for example. I believe there are also studies where in the same part of town police tend to be more violent with minorities. What about the studies that show that resumes with "black" names being less likely to get an interview. They aren't likely saying they are black, i don't want to interview them. But if subconsciously this is the case, its racism. Its not just cops that seem to be the problem, its just that this unconscious racism at the hand of a cop, due to what they do can result in death, which is a much more noticeable problem then not being hired, or not being allowed to rent an apartment.I think that's the thing. I don't think cops think all black people are dangerous but when they go into a ghetto part of town with predominately black population they are going have their guard up. Is that racist? I don't think so.Unconscious racism like say having a black pimp as your avatar or maybe a black guy with a gun? You know, reinforcing those negative stereotypes.
My name is a nod to a hilarious character from the movie Friday. Is it a negative stereotype? Sure. Now if i had never met a black person, and assumed based on that movie(or my profile) all black people were pimps that carry guns and ride in pink limos and discriminated against them(maybe not rent them an apt for fear they will bring their ho's) based on that, it would be unconscious racism.
Unfortunately i don't think there is an easy way to solve this problem.
That's why I just wish we could discuss excessive use of force separate from the race issue. Show me a cop harassing a minority that's not resisting arrest, running, escalating the situation, etc and I'm right there on their side with everyone else.
Cops attacking white people, no deaths. No meat for the media.