Chunky Soup
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Garcia is a tough guy, but reports are out that having missed practice twice now, McCown might get the nod. Thoughts on starting Bryant if McCown is the QB?
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Antonio Bryant, still starting if Jeff Garcia is a no-go? (1 Viewer)
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scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I may look elsewhere if Garcia doesn't start. I'd probably start Lee Evans instead of Bryant if that helps at all.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
not to jump the gun here, but I wouldn't start Bryant, regardless..he's almost certain to have mediocre stats following last week's monster numbers..this is,after all, Antonio Bryant. He's too hot-N-cold to be counted on for everyday use..just my two cents, but he has been very mediocre all year long, last week is the classic 'fluke' game..I'd stay off that bandwagon this week..
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Prior to last week Bryant was #30 in ppg, #29 in overall points at WR. He's currently #13 in ppg, #12 in overall points at WR. He's pretty much been the only thing that's worked in the Bucs offense this year and yet he still gets numbers week to week even though defenses can key on him. He's getting open and making plays. I don't think McCown is going to be a huge drop off from the 2008 Garcia (the guy's been downright brutal at several points this year).
He's been a clear starter in start 3 WR 12 team FF leagues all year long. You better have some great options to put in your lineup to be sitting Bryant at this point.
He's been a clear starter in start 3 WR 12 team FF leagues all year long. You better have some great options to put in your lineup to be sitting Bryant at this point.
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protoslacker
Footballguy
Sit Bryant now? That's nuts. Chucky Gruden is gonna jump the hot hand.
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Chunky Soup
Footballguy
The thread isn't about AB in general, but whether his QB will have a negative impact on him. Maybe you should go to the AC forum or something.btw, 66/936/5, while basically not playing the first two games, is pretty good with 3 games left. And, as far as fluke games go, I'm not expecting 9/200/2. His targets/numbers recently, especially since the Bucs may have to pass to stay in this game, means AB has a good chance at getting opportunities. That's what I care about. The question is, can a QB give him the best opportunities.Tanner9919 said:
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switz
Footballguy
Isn't hot-n-cold the definition of WR?Tanner9919 said:
As for mediocre, I'm wondering what the definition of that is... Bryant has been on par with Steve Smith, Randy Moss and Brandon Marshall this season in my leagues.Tanner9919 said:
I don't play ppr, so I'm not sure if that makes a huge difference.Yeah, last week was a highlight reel, but it's not the only big game he's had, he has 4 other games in the mid-high teens in points. I guess I just don't see "mediocre" there.
I wouldnt change his outlook at all, except maybe to improve it. When McCown was in last year, the leading receiver had at least 71 yards. Galloway ripped off a 7-159 with McCown in. He throws a nice deep ball and is not afraid to take chances. No worries on Bryant if McCown gets the call.
thehornet
Footballguy
I really dont see the correlation here. Two different quarterbacks with different styles. Not to mention Garcia is MUCH better McCown. Just because McCown had a game where the lead receiver had a nice day does not mean Bryant is the guy or that he will have a good day. I downgrade Bryant a lot if McCown plays.
If it's week 13 of last season, and the question is "will McCown hurt Galloway?", the answer is no:7-159, 6-87 the next two games. McCown started again in week 17. Galloway was out, and the WR who started in his place, Chad Lucas, had 5/82. This isn't just based on numbers though. Garcia is definitely a safer QB, better game manager than McCown, but for fantasy, McCown is just as good, if not better. He's got a better deep arm, he's more of a gambler, and he's just as good at scrambling and keeping the play alive. This is also based on watching McCown last year. I would liken McCown's game roughly to Sage Rosenfels, another QB who is not the best at ball security, but is a gamer and tries to make good things happen instead of throwing the ball away or otherwise conceding on a play.
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hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
I'm still not sure if I will start Bryant. makes no difference to me which QB is in.
Atlanta is ranking at 23rd passing DT not great..but they don't give up many passing TD's (only four last four games and one by a WR) and the only WR with a good game was S. Smith in last four games and that was a catch up game for Carolina.
Against Atlanta:
Brees- 230 yds RB Bush 2TD rec. highest receiver in game TE Shockley 5/64
Rivers-149 yds no passing TDs
Delhomme-295 yds 1 TD Muhammad - Smith highest receiver 8/168
Cutler-216 yds 1TD TE Graham
Atlanta is ranking at 23rd passing DT not great..but they don't give up many passing TD's (only four last four games and one by a WR) and the only WR with a good game was S. Smith in last four games and that was a catch up game for Carolina.
Against Atlanta:
Brees- 230 yds RB Bush 2TD rec. highest receiver in game TE Shockley 5/64
Rivers-149 yds no passing TDs
Delhomme-295 yds 1 TD Muhammad - Smith highest receiver 8/168
Cutler-216 yds 1TD TE Graham
Donny Loved Bowling
Footballguy
I'm sitting Bryant in favor of Jonathan Stewart at flex this week.
Just in case you guys were wondering...
Just in case you guys were wondering...
TheFanatic
Footballguy
That's what I was thinking. I call it chasing the trend. Guy goes off on the bench, then you drop him in the lineup but the team this week has watched all the tape and are not going to let the guy go off like last week. that being said, he has not been mediocre in PPR league. He's been top 20-25 before that monster game. That's solid WR2 rankings. Still, I'm sitting him this week.
A.Bryant is a solid start.
CaGamblers
Footballguy
I am starting Bryant over Calvin Johnson and Santana Moss
montana_grizzly_bears
Footballguy
Starting him over Wayne and Hixon.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
I am loaded at WR so I have Wayne, Bowe, and Bryant as my WR3 and Wayne has just killed me over the last 8 weeks. The only week I benched him was against Pitt when he had his one big game in that stretch. Can I justify benching him against the Lions?
montana_grizzly_bears
Footballguy
You know i was saying the same thing. But I thought he would be good last week and he had 5-60 or something like that. Bryant seems to be the better pick right now.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Detroit hasn't been giving up much through the air
Jeff Tefertiller
Footballguy
for the season, the Detroit pass defense has yielded an average of:225 passing yards, 1.5 TDs, and only 0.3 picksIt has been the last few weeks that the Lion pass defense has played better:155 passing yards, 1.0 TDs, and .5 picksThe first half of the season, opposing passers were having career days against the Lions. They have played better of late.Detroit hasn't been giving up much through the air
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Because teams haven't been throwing on them, not because they're good. They have the least # of pass attempts against them in the NFL, and the highest QB rating against in the NFL.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I'm doing the opposite
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
Witten/Romo conspiracy down?
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Usually when TO carps, Romo force feeds it to him. This is a start 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE with 3 flex PPR league. I'm going with Rhodes, Westbrook, Welker, Royal, and TO and leaving Bryant on the bench....
egofailure
Footballguy
Bryant's had at least 45 yards receiving per game since Week 7. He's Garcia's top guy. He's Tampa's best WR.
I'll be starting him as my WR2 over Vincent Jackson, Davonne Bess, and Steve Breaston.
I'll be starting him as my WR2 over Vincent Jackson, Davonne Bess, and Steve Breaston.
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
Starting him, but without too much confidence. Games where TB is behind, AB has been forced the ball. This could easily be one of those games on the road @ ATL.ceisenhower66
Footballguy
I have no choice but to start him. If only he would have saved the explosion last week for this week. I had the #1 seed and a bye. My lineup of McNabb, Gore, Slaton, Fitzgerald, Bryant, Carlson, Bironas, and Arizona exploded for 162 points (highest score of the season). All for nothing, however. And now I have a sick feeling they will do the opposite this week (Kevin Smith is in for Gore, Ten D is in for Arizona). Anyway, I know, I know, no one cares. I just hope Bryant puts up a good 15 points this week. I'm going to need it.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I'm slotting Bryant in because at this point, my opponent has Garcia starting. I'm a big believer in starting the guy you think can score the most points, but this link up is too prevalent to ignore, and Bryant is a big part of this offence. In a PPR format, he's been very solid through the year for me.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
So....Garcia is inactive now?
Hmm....not sure what I'll do now.
Hmm....not sure what I'll do now.
Alberta Clipper
Footballguy
Big Blue Wrecking Crew
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OK, now that Chucky has opted for Griese over McCown, what's the view now? I believe AB had his big game against Chicago w/ Griese at the helm, but they had to throw in that game.
hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
well its easy now to decide...benching Bryant..last time Griese played was two and a half months ago!
Wilbur Wood
Footballguy
Still starting Bryant (over Keller, Bryant Johnson and Holt)
Ice Cream Man
Footballguy
Taking out AB, plugging in Ocho at home.. if anyone cares.
Dulymus Mudhounds
Footballguy
Considering taking AB out and putting in Walter vs. the Titans. Just like the Schaub more than Griese.
Mud
Mud
Blood Farmer
Footballguy
I thought that Hilliard had his "good" games when Griese was the QB rather than Bryant. I guess I need to go and check.
I am starting Bryant at this point ahead of Bess and Hilliard. I may move Bess into the WR3 role.
I am starting Bryant at this point ahead of Bess and Hilliard. I may move Bess into the WR3 role.
DolphinsPhan
Footballguy
I'm starting Walter over Bryant.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Starting Bryant over Mason & Harrison
ceisenhower66
Footballguy
Still starting Bryant...sadly, my only other options are Coles and Steve Smith.
Cleat Spike
Footballguy
Starting Bryant as WR3 over Royal & Bess. Could decide it and I have a feeling about Royal, but I can't jump off now.
Blood Farmer
Footballguy
In PPR games 2-6 with Griese
Bryant
Out
23.8
7.9
12.8
2.3
Hilliard
8.1
17.7
4.1
12.9
So, it seems there is little difference with each averaging about 10-11 ppg but Bryant (as we all know) is the more erratic scoring WR.
Bryant
Out
23.8
7.9
12.8
2.3
Hilliard
8.1
17.7
4.1
12.9
So, it seems there is little difference with each averaging about 10-11 ppg but Bryant (as we all know) is the more erratic scoring WR.
Blood Farmer
Footballguy
Whoops, I included Game 6 for Bryant and Griese was not the QB. So, with Griese as QB Bryant averaged just less than 15 ppg. I'm going with Bryant.
hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
Bryant and Hilliard had a good week 3 game because Griese had to throw the ball 67 times..only 47 rushing yards against Chicago. I don't think he needs to throw that much against Atlanta. I hate to sit AB after last weeks results.
bleachercreacher
Footballguy
I'm going with Santana Moss over Bryant. Moss is due for a big game.
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
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