This guy seems to be playing on a WR 1 level. 40 rec, 500 yrds, 3 TDs. These would lead me to believe he is in for a huge year. I think he could go for 90-1200-10. Anyone think he could have another monster year? I think he was a great choice for an early 4th round pick. Thoughts?
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timschochet
Footballguy
He is arguably one of the most valuable players in all of FF, becuase he is so much better than anyone else at his position. I would argue that there is more of a gap between him and all of the other TE's this year than there was between LT and all of the other RBs last year.
ckalltheway
Footballguy
Have Gates in a 14 team PPR and a money dynasty league and in both I'm 5-0.
In PPR leagues that must have a TE in the lineup, he is an advantage every week.
In PPR leagues that must have a TE in the lineup, he is an advantage every week.
If he goes 90 rec. for 1200 yards and 10 TD's, it would be mean that he'd go for 50 and 700 over the rest of the season (11 games). That's an average of 5 receptions for 63 yards the rest of the way. Frankly, with the way he's playing, I'd be disappointed with those kind of numbers.
The guy has gotten no less than 6 receptions and 77 yards in any game this year. I think 100 receptions and 1350 yds is attainable. I took him in the 4th and have been riding him and Romo to a 5-0 record. What a beast.
The guy has gotten no less than 6 receptions and 77 yards in any game this year. I think 100 receptions and 1350 yds is attainable. I took him in the 4th and have been riding him and Romo to a 5-0 record. What a beast.
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Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
He is off to an incredible start. He's having a much better start than last year, which was still good, but nothing compared to this year. I wish I owned him, but felt he was overvalued this year because of a choppy year last year. Boy, I wish I owned him now....
Yeah I took him over a couple second tier WRs. I am about to go 2-3, though, and have just lost another RB, Pittman, so I may offer him in a trade. I was thinking he is on the level of LJ right now. I am not sure if he would command such a guy, but I wouldnt be that disappointed if I wound up keeping Gates. I think 1300 yards, any way you slice them, is an unreal year from a TE. Even if he does "slow" down, it wont be by much0 hes just uncoverable.
azngangster
Footballguy
Even with the amount of depth there is at TE this year with Winslow, Gonzo, Witten, Clark, etc doing well, Gates is such a huge advantage over all of the others in a TE required league. He is an even bigger monster in a ppr league. The scary part of this season is, I don't think Gates will slow down much in production.
Yeah, maybe not, now that I think about his production curve. He really could put up the best receiving numbers this side of Moss. But sometimes you have to part ways with a guy like this when you have Sjax, Henry, and Pittman, all three who are basically done. I just feel like Gates is such a monster in comparison to others, I might not be able to get fair value.
That's scary. I think you could be right, but I just find it hard to believe. Have people been watching his games? They were just raving about him, he basically took over an entire drive from the TE position, which is hard to do. Even on the Vjax TD he was open over the middle.
Twilight
Footballguy
I worked a trade in my main Dynasty league last season trading away Chad Johnson(and Bulger) for Gates (and a 1st which turned into Bowe) right before CJ had those 2 monster games. That was a gut shot, but I never regretted the trade, and Gates was a key part of my finally winning the championship game last year.
But this years pace has been even beyond my expectations
But this years pace has been even beyond my expectations
fsufan
Footballguy
you had your coffee yet
duaneok66
Footballguy
its H.K. . . .you had your coffee yet
I believe that if SD rights the ship, it will be at the expense of Gates. For SD to be "right", LT is going to be getting more yards and TD.That said, Norv will keep the ship somewhat tilted and Gates should be the benefactor.
Arnold. S
Footballguy
hopefully it'll be at the expense of RIVERS, can't believe they called a play for him to run it in at the 1st and goal on the 1 when you got LT on the team
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Yeah, you know, it never works.Wait...he scored? Oh, ok.hopefully it'll be at the expense of RIVERS, can't believe they called a play for him to run it in at the 1st and goal on the 1 when you got LT on the team
bigupsetter
Footballguy
He is far and away superior to all TE's right now and is an absolute monster in ppr leagues- top 15 ranking.
Not sure how many people have seen his games, he is actually lining up as receiver on many plays. Not that it really matters, if lines up from TE the LB's can't keep up with him and if he lines up at WR the DB's can't cover him. I could probably get him the ball 5 times/game.
Barring injury, he should finish up with top5 WR numbers as he is by far the best receiving option on the team.
Not sure how many people have seen his games, he is actually lining up as receiver on many plays. Not that it really matters, if lines up from TE the LB's can't keep up with him and if he lines up at WR the DB's can't cover him. I could probably get him the ball 5 times/game.
Barring injury, he should finish up with top5 WR numbers as he is by far the best receiving option on the team.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
They looked pretty right yesterday. Tomlinson didn't get 100 yards or a TD.
Try having him in a league where TEs get 2 PPR
PlayaHata
Footballguy
My 2nd year dynasty league has 2 PPR for TEs. I took Gates in the 2nd round of our startup dynasty draft. Gates in our scoring system in just unreal right now. Third in scoring just a hair behind Tom Brady and Ronnie Brown. Gates is a full 17 points better than Randy Moss (next highest ranked WR/TE) right now using our scoring.Christo said:Try having him in a league where TEs get 2 PPRckalltheway said:
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
In standard scoring leagues, he would rank as the #6 wr.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I think the lightbulb went on for somebody over the past week that they needed to actually do what Norv said they were going to do going into the season - get LaDainain and Gates the ball. I'd expect them to continue to force feed both those guys all year long, even if it the rest of the "skill" players hardly touch the ball. IF they can focus on that, it will open things up for everybody and there will be point orgasms the rest of the season for the Chargers.I said before the season started Gates =They looked pretty right yesterday. Tomlinson didn't get 100 yards or a TD.
moreso this year than ever before. At least I got something right.ForWhoForWhat
Footballguy
I hate this thread. Please don't jinx him. He's the only guy out of two money leagues that worked out alright so far.
Got him at 4.09
Got him at 4.09
Yesterday was a primo example of classic SD football....at the expense of Gates.They looked pretty right yesterday. Tomlinson didn't get 100 yards or a TD.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
So the only examples that count are the ones that support your opinion. Okay. Have fun with that.Yesterday was a primo example of classic SD football....at the expense of Gates.
No wise guy - if LT is putting up TD's, which happened 31 times last year - Gates is not. The beginning of this year was an aberration. SD was back to their usual M.O.....so gates' supposed career year mentioned at the beginning of the thread could be derailed moving forward. He'll get his numbers, just not career year numbers.So the only examples that count are the ones that support your opinion. Okay. Have fun with that.Yesterday was a primo example of classic SD football....at the expense of Gates.
tribecalledjeff
Footballguy
why are the 5 great games an aberration and not the 1 bad one?No wise guy - if LT is putting up TD's, which happened 31 times last year - Gates is not. The beginning of this year was an aberration. SD was back to their usual M.O.....so gates' supposed career year mentioned at the beginning of the thread could be derailed moving forward. He'll get his numbers, just not career year numbers.So the only examples that count are the ones that support your opinion. Okay. Have fun with that.Yesterday was a primo example of classic SD football....at the expense of Gates.
Maybe because the previous 40 games had LT as the focal point of the offense, and now that mentality is back?why are the 5 great games an aberration and not the 1 bad one?No wise guy - if LT is putting up TD's, which happened 31 times last year - Gates is not. The beginning of this year was an aberration. SD was back to their usual M.O.....so gates' supposed career year mentioned at the beginning of the thread could be derailed moving forward. He'll get his numbers, just not career year numbers.So the only examples that count are the ones that support your opinion. Okay. Have fun with that.Yesterday was a primo example of classic SD football....at the expense of Gates.
BeachBums
Footballguy
Because the Chargers lost 3 of those games. The Chargers offense is LT, LT, LT and LT with a dash of Gates thrown in to take pressure off the run.why are the 5 great games an aberration and not the 1 bad one?No wise guy - if LT is putting up TD's, which happened 31 times last year - Gates is not. The beginning of this year was an aberration. SD was back to their usual M.O.....so gates' supposed career year mentioned at the beginning of the thread could be derailed moving forward. He'll get his numbers, just not career year numbers.So the only examples that count are the ones that support your opinion. Okay. Have fun with that.Yesterday was a primo example of classic SD football....at the expense of Gates.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
Tomlinson only had 4 more carries yesterday than the loss to KC, 2 more than in the loss to GB, and only 6 more than in the loss to NE. The mentality of having Tomlinson be the focal point of the offense never went away - only the production. Tomlinson had the biggest season of his career last year and Gates still managed to outproduce every other TE. There's no reason that Gates cannot have a great year this year just because Tomlinson is getting two or three more carries per game.BeachBums said:
BeachBums
Footballguy
I agree. Rivers threw 30, 36 and 42 times in the three losses, in the last two games he's thrown 18 and 21. IMO, the way they've played these last two games (Martyball) is the way they're going to win games. The O protected Rivers and opened lanes for LT, the D line showed up, got pressure and stopped the run. Gates can and will have a great year, but the way the Chargers win games is not Rivers to VJax or Davis, or even Gates.
tribecalledjeff
Footballguy
Norv Turner was the coach for the previous 40 games?LT had TD runs of 3, 41, 13, and 27 yesterday. If we can count on that every week, then sure, Gates production takes a hit. But we can't. We didn't really even see any red zone play calling, so we can't say that Gates wouldn't have gotten a look or two. If one of those long runs gets stopped, and they go to Gates on the next play, we're not even having this discussion because he had another great fantasy day. As was posted earlier, it's not like LT had a lot more carries. I certainly hesitate to call one game vs. a crappy run defense "the norm" and ignore the first 5 games under a new head coach.dudaman said:Maybe because the previous 40 games had LT as the focal point of the offense, and now that mentality is back?tribecalledjeff said:why are the 5 great games an aberration and not the 1 bad one?dudaman said:No wise guy - if LT is putting up TD's, which happened 31 times last year - Gates is not. The beginning of this year was an aberration. SD was back to their usual M.O.....so gates' supposed career year mentioned at the beginning of the thread could be derailed moving forward. He'll get his numbers, just not career year numbers.Despyzer said:So the only examples that count are the ones that support your opinion. Okay. Have fun with that.dudaman said:Yesterday was a primo example of classic SD football....at the expense of Gates.
The answer lies somewhere in the middle - better than last year, not as good as the first 5 weeks were on pace for. Certainly good enough for me.
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az_prof
Footballguy
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tribecalledjeff said:why are the 5 great games an aberration and not the 1 bad one?dudaman said:No wise guy - if LT is putting up TD's, which happened 31 times last year - Gates is not. The beginning of this year was an aberration. SD was back to their usual M.O.....so gates' supposed career year mentioned at the beginning of the thread could be derailed moving forward. He'll get his numbers, just not career year numbers.Despyzer said:So the only examples that count are the ones that support your opinion. Okay. Have fun with that.dudaman said:Yesterday was a primo example of classic SD football....at the expense of Gates.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Actually Gates did get a look yesterday. He just about had a TD catch the play before LaDainian's first TD, but he dropped it when the Raider defender grabbed his head and obstructed his vision.Looking back I definitely jinxed Antonio this week into an off game. Sorry about that.
Arnold. S
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
We just need somebody to trade Gates to H.K. in one of his leagues, problem solved.But I'll give it a shot.Obviously Gates will let you down big time this week. In fact I'm guaranteeing a big fat 0 from Gates this week if you start him.Beyond that, the Charger offense has obviously reverted back to total Martyball, and no-one on that offense will be productive besides LaDainian from here on out. Add to that Rivers is making totally bonehead decisions repeatedly, killing drives, missing recievers.Sell Gates now.
Arnold. S
Footballguy
exactlyWe just need somebody to trade Gates to H.K. in one of his leagues, problem solved.But I'll give it a shot.Obviously Gates will let you down big time this week. In fact I'm guaranteeing a big fat 0 from Gates this week if you start him.Beyond that, the Charger offense has obviously reverted back to total Martyball, and no-one on that offense will be productive besides LaDainian from here on out. Add to that Rivers is making totally bonehead decisions repeatedly, killing drives, missing recievers.Sell Gates now.
MCguidance
Footballguy
I'd still take Gates over every single TE this year.exactlyWe just need somebody to trade Gates to H.K. in one of his leagues, problem solved.But I'll give it a shot.Obviously Gates will let you down big time this week. In fact I'm guaranteeing a big fat 0 from Gates this week if you start him.Beyond that, the Charger offense has obviously reverted back to total Martyball, and no-one on that offense will be productive besides LaDainian from here on out. Add to that Rivers is making totally bonehead decisions repeatedly, killing drives, missing recievers.Sell Gates now.for god sakes please lock this thread, or can you just stop posting in here :(
H.K.
Footballguy
We just need somebody to trade Gates to H.K. in one of his leagues, problem solved.But I'll give it a shot.
Obviously Gates will let you down big time this week. In fact I'm guaranteeing a big fat 0 from Gates this week if you start him.
Beyond that, the Charger offense has obviously reverted back to total Martyball, and no-one on that offense will be productive besides LaDainian from here on out. Add to that Rivers is making totally bonehead decisions repeatedly, killing drives, missing recievers.
Sell Gates now.
Groovus - you complete me.For the rest of you, Gates is unjinxable. Whoever owns him will win a title. Guaranteed.*
*(unless by some miracle I acquire him on one of my teams, then all Gates owners are eternally doomed)
MCguidance
Footballguy
"Banned"man lives, ha. Gates' number are very impressive this year..especially out of the TE slot.
