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Any Carolina Panthers Fans? (1 Viewer)

If you're a Panther fan, are you happy?
I'm happy with the draft. I like that we took Stewart. We need a pounder, and I'm glad the Panthers decided to get one via the draft instead of signing an aging veteran. His turf toe surgery doesn't bother me, and I like the fact that the Panthers team doctor is the one who did the surgery, and he feels good about it. I like that we did some wheelin' and dealin' to get Otah to add to the offensive line. I don't think it's that earth shattering that part of the deal was to trade next years first rounder. I like the Godfrey pick. He can play either CB or Safety. Even though we didn't need a ILB, I like that the Panthers took Connor since they felt he was too good to pass on. He could be a nice replacement for Dan Morgan. The TE pick could turn out to be a good one. This Barnidge fella is supposed to have great receiving skills. The DT Hayden pick could turn out nice too. The last 3 picks were a DE, OT, and OG...I think. I'd like to see more DE help, but I'm sure they have plans up their sleeves for that. I'm not worried about the QB position. Overall I'm happy with the Panthers draft.
 
Anybody have a prediction where these three O Lineman will end up playing next year? Gross, Wharton, Otah. I got the impression Otah was primarily a RT. Just wondering how that's going to shake out positioning wise.
Gross LT, Wharton LG, and Otah RT.
 
I've been trying to post my thoughts about the draft for a couple of days and each time I have to leave and clean the vomit out of my mouth.

 
I like the draft it reminds me somewhat of what the Browns did last year. I just hope Otah and Stewart are ready, especially Stewart. I imagine Godfrey will play safety. Connor was great value, our LBs will be pretty good. I don't mind the Barnidge pick if they actually use him. Need more DE help, Taylor would be in on 3rd down pass rushes mainly (if he makes the team).

 
I've been trying to post my thoughts about the draft for a couple of days and each time I have to leave and clean the vomit out of my mouth.
Well it can't be worse than the 2006 draft which now looks completely horrible as Williams has essentially been replaced with Anderson and Butler looking like they'll be released. The only decent player they got from that draft is Marshall. After watching these guys in action for oh the past 5 years, my patience is beginning to wear thin. The only thing you can say for it is that it's a win-now draft (though Idid like the two 3rd round picks). They still need D-line depth and a viable backup QB.
 
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If Carolina selected Jonathan Stewart with the 13th pick (he'll likely still be on the board here) what would the general opinion be?
:crazy: Grab an OL that can play for 10+ years instead. It still helps the running game and there are plenty of RB's that will be there after the first round, too.
:lmao: Of course, they could always take Stewart and trade up in the first round to grab an OL, too....
 
I like the draft it reminds me somewhat of what the Browns did last year. I just hope Otah and Stewart are ready, especially Stewart. I imagine Godfrey will play safety. Connor was great value, our LBs will be pretty good. I don't mind the Barnidge pick if they actually use him. Need more DE help, Taylor would be in on 3rd down pass rushes mainly (if he makes the team).
I agree with you on all accounts. I read that they already looked at some veteran DE's before the draft, and will probably sign one or two of them.
 
Well it can't be worse than the 2006 draft which now looks completely horrible as Williams has essentially been replaced
I don't think DWilliams is being replaced. He is a speedy change of pace back, and he was never drafted to be a pounder. I think the Panthers were hoping Foster could fill that role with his strength, but that didn't work out. I like the fact that the Panthers potentially have two good RB's on their team now, and they will make a nice tandem. It is essential to have more than one good RB on a team, and both RB's are young which to me is a plus.
 
Well it can't be worse than the 2006 draft which now looks completely horrible as Williams has essentially been replaced
I don't think DWilliams is being replaced. He is a speedy change of pace back, and he was never drafted to be a pounder. I think the Panthers were hoping Foster could fill that role with his strength, but that didn't work out. I like the fact that the Panthers potentially have two good RB's on their team now, and they will make a nice tandem. It is essential to have more than one good RB on a team, and both RB's are young which to me is a plus.
It's a plus if you're not paying both of them first round money on a team that has some salary cap issues. I get why they did it and it helps that their surgeon did Stewart's surgery so they have a better idea than most what his real status is, but I don't like how this draft shakes out for salary cap purposes. You're basically now paying for two 1st tound RBs, and 1st round money to RT because he's a good run-blocker. I get that those were weaknesses, but I don't have a whole lot of faith in this organizations evaluation of college talent at this point.
 
I don't have a whole lot of faith in this organizations evaluation of college talent at this point.
So true. However, they have been pretty good in the first round, it's usually after then that they fall apart. It's one of the main reasons why I like what they did on Saturday.
Their scouting staff has done an admirable job of not missing on first-round picks in the John Fox/Marty Hurney era. In fact, over the past six years they've added the likes of linebacker Jon Beason, running back DeAngelo Williams, linebacker Thomas Davis, cornerback Chris Gamble, offensive tackle Jordan Gross and defensive end Julius Peppers. All wil start this year. link
 
Anybody have a prediction where these three O Lineman will end up playing next year? Gross, Wharton, Otah. I got the impression Otah was primarily a RT. Just wondering how that's going to shake out positioning wise.
Gross LT, Wharton LG, and Otah RT.
More than likely that's what it will be. I also thought it could work out: Wharton LT, Otah RG, Gross RT. At least in Otah's rookie season.
 
Posted on Mon, Apr. 28, 2008

Panthers sign defensive tackle with S.C. ties

STAN OLSON

The Carolina Panthers have strengthened their rotation at defensive tackle with the signing of veteran Darwin Walker today.

Walker, who is from Walterboro, S.C., is 6-foot-3, 294 pounds and brings a veteran presence to the line. He turns 31 in June. Carolina signed him to a one-year contract that could be worth more than $1 million with incentives.

"He is a Carolina Panther; they've been trying to sign him for a couple months," said Al Irby, Walker's agent, today. "He had talked to other teams and turned down other offers. Carolina was his first choice and they had decided to revisit that after the draft. Carolina decided not to allow him to go elsewhere after that.{quot}

Walker was hampered by injures while with Chicago last season and was released by the Bears following the season.

"Darwin needs to reestablish his value, and he believes Carolina is the best place to do it," Irwin said. "He likes the defensive coordinator and D-line coach there, and he thinks Carolina has the best defensive scheme for him."

Walker will immediately move into the rotation with Maake Kemoeatu and Damione Lewis.

He has played in 79 NFL games, and has had six or more sacks three times in his career, most recently in 2006.

 
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Posted on Mon, Apr. 28, 2008 Panthers sign defensive tackle with S.C. tiesSTAN OLSONThe Carolina Panthers have strengthened their rotation at defensive tackle with the signing of veteran Darwin Walker today.Walker, who is from Walterboro, S.C., is 6-foot-3, 294 pounds and brings a veteran presence to the line. He turns 31 in June. Carolina signed him to a one-year contract that could be worth more than $1 million with incentives."He is a Carolina Panther; they've been trying to sign him for a couple months," said Al Irby, Walker's agent, today. "He had talked to other teams and turned down other offers. Carolina was his first choice and they had decided to revisit that after the draft. Carolina decided not to allow him to go elsewhere after that.{quot}Walker was hampered by injures while with Chicago last season and was released by the Bears following the season."Darwin needs to reestablish his value, and he believes Carolina is the best place to do it," Irwin said. "He likes the defensive coordinator and D-line coach there, and he thinks Carolina has the best defensive scheme for him."Walker will immediately move into the rotation with Maake Kemoeatu and Damione Lewis.He has played in 79 NFL games, and has had six or more sacks three times in his career, most recently in 2006.
That is great news. I was listening to WFNZ on the way into work this morning and Fox indicated that there may be more moves in the works as he was specifically asked about only getting a DT in the 6th round. I bet they had that up their sleeve yesterday and made a few of their moves yesterday with that in mind.Overall, I give the Panthers a good mark (B+) for the draft as they addressed several moves over the weekend. I think we paid too much to move to #19 and grab Otah, but he was a good pick that could really make an impact, when you throw in a bruising back like Stewart as the main RB for the team.
 
Much like bad oysters, the after taste of this draft won't go away. Obviously Hurney and Fox should have been fired after last season. They have mortgaged the future for this abortion of a draft. Heck, we won't be able to attract a replacement GM or coach now that the cupboard is bare for next year. I'm not upset about Otah on the roster, but he should have been the sole pick in the first round. WTF is the deal with drafting damged goods in the first round. Given the track record, I expect Stewart to be a huge bust. Even if he half way pans out, you now admitted that DWill is a bust. The trade for the second 1st rounder may go down as one of the worst in history. I hope Hurney at least got a kiss after the butt raping Philly gave him. Wow this team would look better with <insert name of a dozen FA RBs> and the other two picks from this year's draft. The problem with establishing a running game is that we have a pathetic defense. Primary issue is the non-existant pass rush. Nothing has been done to address this. Hopefully Otah can pass protect as we'll be playing from behind. And whassup with drafting a TE that can't block for your new power running game? This draft is definately one of the bottom five in the league this year and possbily a contender with the Titans for the worst.

 
I've been trying to post my thoughts about the draft for a couple of days and each time I have to leave and clean the vomit out of my mouth.
Well it can't be worse than the 2006 draft which now looks completely horrible as Williams has essentially been replaced with Anderson and Butler looking like they'll be released. The only decent player they got from that draft is Marshall. After watching these guys in action for oh the past 5 years, my patience is beginning to wear thin. The only thing you can say for it is that it's a win-now draft (though Idid like the two 3rd round picks). They still need D-line depth and a viable backup QB.
With the "win now" being because there won't be a next year for Fox/Hurney without making the playoffs this year. Gotta think this is the last hoorah for them both. You can only write it off to injuries for so long.
 
With the "win now" being because there won't be a next year for Fox/Hurney without making the playoffs this year. Gotta think this is the last hoorah for them both. You can only write it off to injuries for so long.
I hope it's not the last hoorah for Fox. I understand why he is on the hot seat this year, but I also think he is a good coach. If the Panthers don't make the playoffs this year, and he is released, some team will scoop Fox up fast.
 
With the "win now" being because there won't be a next year for Fox/Hurney without making the playoffs this year. Gotta think this is the last hoorah for them both. You can only write it off to injuries for so long.
I hope it's not the last hoorah for Fox. I understand why he is on the hot seat this year, but I also think he is a good coach. If the Panthers don't make the playoffs this year, and he is released, some team will scoop Fox up fast.
Probably Philly...
 
I liked the draft a lot and think we got some really solid players. I cringed though when I saw the price we paid to move up and select Otah. However, the first impression I got, a very good one, after the first round was that we were going to be a REAL nasty team next year running the football. I mean real nasty like. Hopefully this will give the offense some life and the power running game will help our suspect passing offense. Of course the health and production of Delhomme and Smith will be key here but we're also going to need some production from the WR #2 spot. TE has always been a blocking position for us except when we had Wesley Walls. I was really expecting some more help on the defensive line though. I like Connor (ILB). The CB pick didn't really seem like a pressing need. Hooray for this year though. We came out with an excellent draft although I always question when a bad team, and we did pick high this year, trades the next year's #1. Look how stupid SF looked this year. They gave up the #7 pick. I think we'll do better than that but if Delhomme gets hurt all bets are off. Anybody have a prediction where these three O Lineman will end up playing next year? Gross, Wharton, Otah. I got the impression Otah was primarily a RT. Just wondering how that's going to shake out positioning wise.
The way I look at the 09 1st rounder is this. We basically received Otah for a 2008 2nd and 4th round pick. He would be our 2009 first round pick, we're just getting him one year earlier. If he's 10-year veteran for us at tackle, then it's a great deal. As for the OL for next year and beyond, I think Wharton will be at Guard, but Gross and Otah could be interchangeable at left and right tackle. Whoever does the best will likely occupy that LT position that covers the QBs blind spot. My thinking is that Otah will be groomed for that role.
 
Panthers sign Ian Scott

CHARLOTTE -- Three days ago, the Carolina Panthers had no depth at defensive tackle.

Now they're overflowing with it.

The Panthers signed veteran free agent defensive tackle Ian Scott on Tuesday, one day after agreeing to terms with Darwin Walker, another veteran who plays the same position.

Scott, 6-foot-3 and 302 pounds, played in 49 games with 33 starts with the Chicago Bears from 2003 to 2006. He was signed as an unrestricted free agent by Philadelphia last year, but was placed on injured reserve before the start of the season with a knee injury.

A native of Greenville, S.C., Scott, 26, had 155 tackles, two sacks, and one interception with the Bears. He started at defensive tackle for Chicago in Super Bowl XLI against the Indianapolis Colts. Scott was originally drafted in the fourth round (116th overall) by Chicago in 2003.

Walker, 30, played in 11 games with seven starts with Chicago in 2007, finishing with 17 tackles and one sack. Prior to going to Chicago, the 6-3, 295-pound Walterboro, S.C., native was a five-year starter in Philadelphia where he totaled 27.5 sacks.

He had a career-best 7.5 sacks with the Eagles in 2002 and started Super Bowl XXXIX for Philadelphia in 2004 against New England. Walker was originally drafted by the Arizona Cardinals in the third round (71st overall) of the 2000 draft.

The Panthers entered this past weekend's NFL draft with Damione Lewis and Maake Kemoeatu as their starting defensive tackles, but with little else in the way of experienced depth.

However, because of the way the draft fell, the Panthers were unable to address that position until adding Wisconsin's Nick Hayden in the sixth round.

It was expected the Panthers would call upon a deep and experienced group of defensive tackles to upgrade that position this week, and they have.

The Panthers met with both Walker and Scott in the weeks leading up to the NFL draft. They also met with former Atlanta Falcon Rod Coleman, but apparently there were some injury concerns that forced them to shy away from him and go with Scott and Walker.
Now, after shoring up the OL to help the morph back into a power running attack, the Panthers have signed both Darwin Walker and Ian Scott in the two days after the draft to help our efforts in stopping the run with our defense. Nice moves and much needed help for the defensive line! :shrug: :thumbup:
 
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Do the Panthers have a veteran QB on the roster to backup Jake?

I saw someplace that no QB has ever come back from the type of surgery that he had.

(Yes I know small sample size)

Anyway I know they like the Moore kid, just wondering if they had a vet on the roster.

If they don’t seems like they could use one.

 
No they do not have a veteran QB on the roster at this point. The depth chart is Delhomme, Moore and Basanez who was also coming back from surgery. From what I hear and read, they are very pleased about how Jake's rehab has been going and they are very happy with their QB situation this year compared to last year when they thought that had it covered by bringing in Carr. Moore showed a lot of moxy in the last 3 games, leading the Panthers 2 -1 record and looked very comfortable as the starter. I liked him and feel OK with him as our #2.

If someone gets cut after TC, the Panthers may try to sign a vet, but I doubt it.

 
:boxing: I'd wrap this in quotes, but it isn't working right for me.

Delhomme throws at minicamp

There is no more mystery about how much, or whether, Jake Delhomme is throwing after undergoing elbow surgery.

In somewhat of a surprise, Delhomme threw 34 passes during individual drills Friday morning as the Panthers opened a three-day minicamp. He didn't throw during team drills.

Delhomme said his recovery is going great and that he hasn't had any setbacks. He said he hasn't thrown a deep pass yet, but did throw an equally difficult 15-yard out pass to Steve Smith Saturday.

Delhomme looked comfortable and at ease throwing.

So, it's thumbs up so far on his recovery, which is outstanding news for the Panthers.

 
Riddle me this...what do the Panther's 2008 OTA and 2009 OTA have in common?

No first round draft picks participating. Stewart hurt, Otah hurt.

 
BassNBrew said:
Riddle me this...what do the Panther's 2008 OTA and 2009 OTA have in common?No first round draft picks participating. Stewart hurt, Otah hurt.
FYI....Otah practices with PanthersCarolina Panthers rookie offensive tackle Jeff Otah practiced for the first time Monday during the team's "summer school" session.Otah, a first-round pick in April's NFL draft, had been held out of the team's minicamp in May and last week's three days of off-season training activities (OTAs) because of a high-ankle sprain.Otah, a 6-foot-6, 330-pounder, hurt the ankle last August and played with the injury the entire season at the University of Pittsburgh.
 
BassNBrew said:
Riddle me this...what do the Panther's 2008 OTA and 2009 OTA have in common?No first round draft picks participating. Stewart hurt, Otah hurt.
FYI....Otah practices with PanthersCarolina Panthers rookie offensive tackle Jeff Otah practiced for the first time Monday during the team's "summer school" session.Otah, a first-round pick in April's NFL draft, had been held out of the team's minicamp in May and last week's three days of off-season training activities (OTAs) because of a high-ankle sprain.Otah, a 6-foot-6, 330-pounder, hurt the ankle last August and played with the injury the entire season at the University of Pittsburgh.
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Rookie lineman practices for first timePanthers rookie offensive tackle Jeff Otah practiced for the first time Monday during the team's "summer school" session.Otah, a first-round pick in April's NFL draft, had been held out of the team's minicamp in May and last week's three days of off-season training activities (OTAs) because of a high-ankle sprain.Otah, a 6-foot-6, 330-pounder, hurt the ankle last August and played with the injury the entire season at the University of Pittsburgh. David ScottPosted by Observer Sports on June 2, 2008 at 09:04 AM | Permalink | Comments (12)
Beat me to the news.... Posted again to include the source.
 
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Even from sidelines, lineman is learningDAVID SCOTTdscott@charlotteobserver.comCarolina Panthers rookie offensive tackle Jeff Otah hasn't practiced with the team yet because of a high-ankle sprain which he's continuing to recover from. Otah, the 19th player chosen in last month's NFL draft, hurt the ankle in preseason camp before his final season at the University of Pittsburgh and played hurt the entire 2007 season. Otah spoke with reporters after Thursday's summer-school practice, when he worked out on his own on the sideline with a Panthers trainer.Q. How's the ankle feel and when do you think you'll be able to practice? It's feeling really good right now, it's getting better. I'm just doing what the trainers tell me. You always want to be out there with your teammates, working at getting better. But right now the trainers say to let the ankle heal up.Q. How tough was it to play last season at Pitt, and was the injury severe enough to make you miss any games? It was hard during the season last year, but the trainers at the University of Pittsburgh really helped me out to get me to play games. It never was that close (to missing games), but there were times ... But the team needed me to go out and play, so I had had to suck it up. It never healed up, but I kept on playing.Q. How well have you been able to pick up plays with the Panthers by just being in meetings and not being able to practice? It all starts in the meeting room, that's where you learn your plays. I'm glad I'm getting an opportunity to learn those plays.I've learned it's a fast game and you've got to know what you're doing.Q. The Panthers traded next season's first-round pick to get a chance to draft you in this year's first round. Any pressure on you, knowing they gave up that much? You're always going to feel pressure being a first-round pick. But I don't really feel any pressure. If I was taken in the fifth round, I'd come in here and work my butt off.Notes• Coach John Fox said he doesn't have a timetable for Otah's return. "He's improving," Fox said. "It's still a little hot in (the ankle). When the doctors say OK, he'll be out here."• Second-year receiver Dwayne Jarrett (illness) didn't practice Thursday.• Who says these offseason training activities (OTAs) can't be fun? Safety Chris Harris returned a long interception for a touchdown, then practiced his end zone celebration as if he were in a stadium full of fans.
 
Reporting for duty, although I'm considered a bad apple because I didn't like the OC hire last year and have warned about the defense being very over rated.
That's because Richard Marshall isn't starting. Put him in.Not a fan but like reading posts about Carolina.
 
BassNBrew said:
Riddle me this...what do the Panther's 2008 OTA and 2009 OTA have in common?No first round draft picks participating. Stewart hurt, Otah hurt.
FYI....Otah practices with Panthers
Here is a report from the Panthers website:
Otah passes first testJune 2, 2008Andrew MasonPanthers.comCHARLOTTE -- With a snap of the fingers, Jeff Otah's perception of pro football began to change Monday morning. Since being drafted in April, Otah had diligently studied his playbook as he continued his rehabilitation to full strength following several months in which he played and went through pre-draft preparations on an ailing ankle that he sprained last year in preseason practice at the University of Pittsburgh.But mental preparation could only take him so far. Monday, he got to take the next step -- onto the practice field as the Panthers reconvened for a second week of summer-school sessions."You know, when you look at your playbook, you know your plays," he said. "It's a little different when you've got to get out there and know them like that --"Otah snapped his fingers once."And know audibles like that."Two snaps of the fingers.The physical element of football isn't present at these summer-school sessions. But not unlike actors in the early phases of rehearsal for a stage performance, it's important to know where one needs to be and what one needs to do when the curtain lifts."It felt good to finally get out there," Otah said. "You know what you're doing, but you've got to get it in your head a little faster so you can react.""All these (organized team activities) are basically to get your assignments down and what to and how to do it," head coach John Fox added. "Then they'll put on pads and play real football when (training) camp starts."Otah's classroom work in the bowels of Bank of America Stadium in the previous four weeks will likely prove invaluable as his gestation continues. But donning his helmet and stepping into the huddle with the first-team offensive line during summer school was a necessary next step in continuing his progress toward immediate contribution."He has digested all of the protections, the run schemes, the calls, so this was the first time, physically, he got to come out and actually execute that, so when we get to (training) camp, he's not thinking," Fox said.Added Otah: "You've got to know what you're doing, and even if you know what you're doing, you still might not have a good practice if you don't take (mental) reps at it."But just as important as the mental aspect for Otah was the physical side, as this represented his first chance for on-field work without the specter of a high ankle sprain in over nine months. The first-round pick affirmed that the ankle was now close to 100 percent after the rest he was able to take in recent weeks."It feels good," he said.Sitting Otah for mini-camp and the first week of summer school wasn’t essential, Fox noted, but was helpful nonetheless."It was just precautionary," Fox said. "If we were playing games, he’d play. But we at least wanted to get it all squared away. Today was our first day looking at it, and I think he got through it pretty good."And Otah’s next step appears clear – to work on the field Tuesday."I can't wait until tomorrow," he said.And after many more tomorrows, Otah hopes the pro game will be a snap.
 

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