Judge Smails
Footballguy
Warner singlehandedly lost them the game today. 3 picks, 1 crucial fumble. Leinart would not make those mistakes, rookie or not...He is not a Vince Young project. He is ready now.
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Any chance Leinarts gets the next start? (1 Viewer)
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I just PMed Dennis Green. We should have an answer shortly.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Useful response, tool...
I'd guess no later than Week 10 (week after their bye). Only reason I wouldn't see him thrown in now is that he held out in the preseason.
Warner was horrible today. His INT in the endzone was an absolute joke. That's not to let him off on the fumbled snap at the end of the game.....that's on him too.
Warner was horrible today. His INT in the endzone was an absolute joke. That's not to let him off on the fumbled snap at the end of the game.....that's on him too.
Billy1x
Footballguy
He might have 2 good games but then the defenses will have film and kill him. IF the defenses don't blitz and use very recognizeable sets then yea he could win a lot of games. Don't see that happening.The Offensive Line Sucks!!!
Otis
Footballguy
After he blew the game with that fumble, this was my first thought. This guy is absolutely KILLING this team with his turnovers. I don't think he is making throws that Leinart couldn't make. As a New Yorker who likes the Cards, I say get Leinart in there now and let him start getting his feet wet. He's obviously the future, and he can't possibly turn the ball over more than Warner already is.
But who knows.
But who knows.
videoguy505
Footballguy
Water's a little yellow in your end of the Pool.
mlball77
Footballguy
The line is bad and Warner seems to hold the ball for too long at times... leading to fumbles etc.
I don't see Leinart starting for at least a few more weeks yet. I think Green sticks with Warner for a few more games... at that point he'll decide if Warner is still the guy for the team. Right now, Warner still gives them the best chance to win, so he won't get benched at this point, imo.
I don't see Leinart starting for at least a few more weeks yet. I think Green sticks with Warner for a few more games... at that point he'll decide if Warner is still the guy for the team. Right now, Warner still gives them the best chance to win, so he won't get benched at this point, imo.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
No. Leinhart is not ready.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Why do you say that? Just because he's a rookie? Because he came late to camp? Because of his preseason? He looked phenomenal in those games IMHO.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
About as useful as the threadNO Warner is the starter until hurt, which should be in about 3 weeks
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Yes, yes, and yes. He's not ready and the Cards are still thinking they might be a playoff team. Leinhart is going to get them another 4-12 season. Warner is the guy unless he gets hurt or they start like 1-6. I say that with quite a bit of confidence.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Why are people acting like this is a ridiculous thread? An old quarterback has 4 turnovers and costs his team the game while his heir apparent top-10 pick is standing on the sidelines.
I don't think Warner is getting benched, but to act like it's a stupid question and makes a "useless" thread is part of what's wrong with this forum lately. It's a legit question, and it's okay to voice your opinion without being unnecessarily condescending.
I don't think Warner is getting benched, but to act like it's a stupid question and makes a "useless" thread is part of what's wrong with this forum lately. It's a legit question, and it's okay to voice your opinion without being unnecessarily condescending.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Is it really a surprise to anyone that Warner is having this many TO's and costing the team games? That was pretty much a given before the season began.
Situation isn't much different than Warner's situation in NY (where he was replaced even though I believe the team was .500).
Expectations for the Cardinals are at an all-time high in that area (new stadium, finally spent money on a franchise RB). They're building for the future, so Leinart's going to be in there sooner rather than later.
Leinart wouldn't of performed any worse today than Warner. If you disagree, well, you didn't watch the game.
The latest will be after their Week 9 bye. Whether they are .500 or 1-7.
Expectations for the Cardinals are at an all-time high in that area (new stadium, finally spent money on a franchise RB). They're building for the future, so Leinart's going to be in there sooner rather than later.
Leinart wouldn't of performed any worse today than Warner. If you disagree, well, you didn't watch the game.
The latest will be after their Week 9 bye. Whether they are .500 or 1-7.
videoguy505
Footballguy
You must be new.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
If I wanted people who weren't condescending I'd go to touchyfeelyfootballtalk.com
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
I found your post to be very condescending.
IGKYA!!!
Footballguy
Exactly. Bulger won Mike Martz over for good in STL after Warner went on a fumble/INT tear a few years back.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Where is the fun in that?
Also remember Leinhart stayed an extra year in college. I'd put him a year ahead of most rookies. He ran an NFL style offense, and stayed an extra year just for fun. I wouldn't rank him ahead of Rivers, but I'd put him ahead of VY/Cutler.
Otis
Footballguy
This is why I think he's far more game ready than people realize. The kid also looked GREAT, and very poised, in preseason.This is not a ridiculous thread at all. But I think it's all just speculation until Green gives us a reason to think otherwise.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
guys, it's Leinart. Matt Leinart. there's no H.
Doctor Detroit
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I agree with that. But which NFL rookie QB in recent years has made an impact this early in the season? Peyton Manning? Even he struggled with 26 TDs but 28 ints. I just think Leinart needs more time and the team won't go to him unless things are looking bad for the immediate future. Still too early.
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Re: the last turnover, the fumble that absolutely lost the game for Arizona when they were already in FG range and tried to make it a shorter FG, after the play Warner was screaming at the center, and the center looked like he wanted to cry. My guess is that he snapped the ball on the wrong count.That was supposedly Warner's 9th fumble of the year already, though. Who knows if his thumb injury that used to supposedly cause his fumbling problems ever really healed properly?Two INT's in the red-zone, one into the end zone would get even JAKE PLUMMER'S biggest apologists riled up. I doubt Warner gets benched while moving the team up and down the field while the running game is still not exactly all that competent. But I doubt even Warner believes he's gonn afinish the year with that starting job.
gocats
Footballguy
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
This thread sucks. 
fsufan
Footballguy
and a rookie who missed most of TC is going to do better
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Possibly.Warner's only good game was against the Niners at home.and a rookie who missed most of TC is going to do better
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Well thought out thread, DB.
phrozen
Footballguy
Would it be better if we each included 10 really bad predictions?Noahs Troopers said:This thread sucks.
BrentBlack
Footballguy
Would it be better if we each included 10 really bad predictions?Noahs Troopers said:This thread sucks.
