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[prymetyme25]

How do you think he is as a player personall guy? Do you think he did a good job in Green Bay. or do you think your talent took a dip under him. Just interested as a Texans Fan.

 

[Phurfur]

It is said that Sherman the GM lost Sherman the Coach his job.

One problem I thought Sherman had was he was to loyal to his people, coaches and players alike. If someone is not doing the job you have to get rid of him, Sherman did not do this.

The talent definately took a dip under him.

 

[prymetyme25]

It is said that Sherman the GM lost Sherman the Coach his job. One problem I thought Sherman had was he was to loyal to his people, coaches and players alike. If someone is not doing the job you have to get rid of him, Sherman did not do this.The talent definately took a dip under him.

thanks because it worries me that a guy that never played the game is scouting for my team. I just don't get it. But in his defense the texans had a very nice draft last year so hey who know

 

[coolnerd]

It is said that Sherman the GM lost Sherman the Coach his job. One problem I thought Sherman had was he was to loyal to his people, coaches and players alike. If someone is not doing the job you have to get rid of him, Sherman did not do this.The talent definately took a dip under him.

thanks because it worries me that a guy that never played the game is scouting for my team. I just don't get it. But in his defense the texans had a very nice draft last year so hey who know

You will sorely disappointed in the number of scouts and excellent personnel men who have no experience playing past low level college at best. Being able to recognize talent is a very different skill than having the physical skill to play the game. It has a much to do with being able to be given a set of standards and recognizing the people who meet those. In other words, see Matt Millen. Good NFL player and even decent announcer, has not show any skill at talent evaluation. Also, the decision makers for the Texans are Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak. Don't let the pictures of Sherman at the combine fool you that he has more say than he does.

 

[trader jake]

It is said that Sherman the GM lost Sherman the Coach his job. One problem I thought Sherman had was he was to loyal to his people, coaches and players alike. If someone is not doing the job you have to get rid of him, Sherman did not do this.The talent definately took a dip under him.

Sherman tends to get more conservative as the games get bigger and this would drive some of us Cheeseheads crazy, but overall he was a solid head coach.As GM his 1st round picks were generally solid, but he made mistake after mistake with big dollar contracts and the second day of the draft was a complete waste during his tenure. The talent level of the Packers gradually went from near the top of the league when he took over to near the bottom of the league when he was let go.

 

[mr. furley]

terrible GM

terrible.

if he's heading up the draft for the Texans, you're screwed.

 

[onionsack]

It is said that Sherman the GM lost Sherman the Coach his job.

One problem I thought Sherman had was he was to loyal to his people, coaches and players alike. If someone is not doing the job you have to get rid of him, Sherman did not do this.

The talent definately took a dip under him.

thanks because it worries me that a guy that never played the game is scouting for my team. I just don't get it. But in his defense the texans had a very nice draft last year so hey who know

You will sorely disappointed in the number of scouts and excellent personnel men who have no experience playing past low level college at best. Being able to recognize talent is a very different skill than having the physical skill to play the game. It has a much to do with being able to be given a set of standards and recognizing the people who meet those. In other words, see Matt Millen. Good NFL player and even decent announcer, has not show any skill at talent evaluation. Also, the decision makers for the Texans are Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak. Don't let the pictures of Sherman at the combine fool you that he has more say than he does.

Actually, the pictures of Sherman at the combine tell you everything you need to know about his quality as a talent evaluator.

 

[prymetyme25]

It is said that Sherman the GM lost Sherman the Coach his job.

One problem I thought Sherman had was he was to loyal to his people, coaches and players alike. If someone is not doing the job you have to get rid of him, Sherman did not do this.

The talent definately took a dip under him.

thanks because it worries me that a guy that never played the game is scouting for my team. I just don't get it. But in his defense the texans had a very nice draft last year so hey who know

You will sorely disappointed in the number of scouts and excellent personnel men who have no experience playing past low level college at best. Being able to recognize talent is a very different skill than having the physical skill to play the game. It has a much to do with being able to be given a set of standards and recognizing the people who meet those. In other words, see Matt Millen. Good NFL player and even decent announcer, has not show any skill at talent evaluation. Also, the decision makers for the Texans are Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak. Don't let the pictures of Sherman at the combine fool you that he has more say than he does.

Actually, the pictures of Sherman at the combine tell you everything you need to know about his quality as a talent evaluator.

looks like the Texans just got jacked up!!!

 

[mr. furley]

Actually, the pictures of Sherman at the combine tell you everything you need to know about his quality as a talent evaluator.

good ol' Shermie.such a control freak that he probably told everyone to stay away from the combine because he could handle it all by himself. then he burned out from the 22 hour days.

guy's gonna either burn out and have a mental breakdown or he's gonna die of a heart attack. he must have put on 40-50 lbs while here and was known for working EXTREME hours... even among NFL coaches. he tried to control all aspects of the entire Packer organization.. from the coaches and players to how many paper clips the secretaries ordered. he got in over his head and then buried himself in work.

if the Texans can manage to limit his reach then he should be ok. don't let him run personnel and don't let him have any authority beyond MAYBE running the offense. even that might be too much.

 

[Aaronstory]

Its a real shame, because the guy is a good offensive coach. He was a terrible, terrible GM.

However, he did trade for Harris when people doubted his ability to be a starter, he did move up to get Walker when people had doubts about his ability to learn an NFL offense, ect. Jenkins was a Sherman pick. He brought in some talent. The problem was his blunders were just so over the top horible (3rd round pick for a punter, the Cletius Hunt deal, ect) that no one will give him an ounce of credit for some of his good moves.

 

[Team Tosh]

Its a real shame, because the guy is a good offensive coach. He was a terrible, terrible GM.However, he did trade for Harris when people doubted his ability to be a starter, he did move up to get Walker when people had doubts about his ability to learn an NFL offense, ect. Jenkins was a Sherman pick. He brought in some talent. The problem was his blunders were just so over the top horible (3rd round pick for a punter, the Cletius Hunt deal, ect) that no one will give him an ounce of credit for some of his good moves.

Yes, he did have one or two solid moves free agent wise, but most pickups and drafts were a disaster. He completely depleted a Packer team that was pretty solid all around. His coaching on the other hand was adaquate.

 

[Pipes]

Its a real shame, because the guy is a good offensive coach. He was a terrible, terrible GM.However, he did trade for Harris when people doubted his ability to be a starter, he did move up to get Walker when people had doubts about his ability to learn an NFL offense, ect. Jenkins was a Sherman pick. He brought in some talent. The problem was his blunders were just so over the top horible (3rd round pick for a punter, the Cletius Hunt deal, ect) that no one will give him an ounce of credit for some of his good moves.

Don't forget drafting Ahmad Carroll in the 1st round ahead of Chris Gamble. Noone had Carroll has a first rounder and Sherman reached terribly for him. The Walker pick was nice but Green Bay gave up alot to get him.I'd rate Sherman as a very good offensive coordinator, o.k. as a coach (too many challenge blunders and blind loyalty to poor assistants) to rate him any higher, and a bad GM.

 

[King for a Day]

Per the question about Sherman as GM.....he was so bad that I can't think of many words to describe it. Somone else hit it on the head when they said that Sherman was so bad as a GM that he got Sherman the head coach fired. The only reason he was fired as head coach was because of how poorly he did as a GM.

If I could only name one thing that showed how poor Sherman was as GM it would be the time he traded up in the third round to pick a punter. Not only did he take a punter in the third round but he traded up to get him! Nothing compares to this debacle when talking about Sherman the GM. Some fans like to stand up for him but ask them to name players that Sherman successfully drafted and they'll only come up with maybe 4 success stories.

As a coach and person.....Packer fans loved Sherman. As a talent guy/GM.....we were looking for his dog.

 

[Phurfur]

It is said that Sherman the GM lost Sherman the Coach his job. One problem I thought Sherman had was he was to loyal to his people, coaches and players alike. If someone is not doing the job you have to get rid of him, Sherman did not do this.The talent definately took a dip under him.

thanks because it worries me that a guy that never played the game is scouting for my team. I just don't get it. But in his defense the texans had a very nice draft last year so hey who know

I don't think Sherman had much to do with the draft last year. He was promoted to his present position last month.

 

[Sabertooth]

terrible GMterrible.if he's heading up the draft for the Texans, you're screwed.

 

[bcr8f]

terrible GMterrible.if he's heading up the draft for the Texans, you're screwed.

He took a SB team and as GM rode it into the ground. 1st round picks were good? I don't remember that.A good coach but he should have turned down the GM job.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Per the question about Sherman as GM.....he was so bad that I can't think of many words to describe it. Somone else hit it on the head when they said that Sherman was so bad as a GM that he got Sherman the head coach fired. The only reason he was fired as head coach was because of how poorly he did as a GM.

If I could only name one thing that showed how poor Sherman was as GM it would be the time he traded up in the third round to pick a punter. Not only did he take a punter in the third round but he traded up to get him! Nothing compares to this debacle when talking about Sherman the GM. Some fans like to stand up for him but ask them to name players that Sherman successfully drafted and they'll only come up with maybe 4 success stories.

As a coach and person.....Packer fans loved Sherman. As a talent guy/GM.....we were looking for his dog.

All Packer fans will mention Jamal Reynolds and Ahmad Carroll, but for me, the decision to trade up to get a punter was his worst move ever. Seriously, that was just ridiculous.

 

[prymetyme25]

Anybody think he may have had too much on his plate? The way you guys describe him he's a guy you have to promote but your gonna be dissapointed when you do.

Anybody think it could be overcompensation for not playing so he feels he has to overwork himself?