Any guys you won't ever (re)draft again? (1 Viewer)

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Reggie Bush

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

whil I didn't draft or own some of these players, you simply can't rely on Rashard Jennings, Eli Manning, Cutler, Foles, Bob Griffin, Jimmy Graham to a lesser extent, Drew Brees - he's definitely lost his fastball, and he's throwing picks like mad lately..

WTH? Brees and Graham? Brees was the #4 QB on average in my leagues and Graham was #2 even with all his injuries and turd games. But dont draft them again.

Brees is still a great talent - had him the last 4 years. However, next year he is one of the guys I might release if the right players are available in the early rounds. We are allowed 3 keepers and he is approaching the point of not being worth losing a 1-3 round pick.

 

[Power Monster]

AJ Green - too much Andy Dalton for my liking and the injuries are starting to surface. He was far from elite which means his ADP was not justified. Not a pro bowl player this year

far from elite? he put up 69/1k/6 in 13 games. and 2 of those games were ruined due to injury where he left early.

i do tend to agree that green's adp will be a bit too high. i would prefer the other elite guys over him and i doubt he drops behind all of those guys. so i will be taking brown, calvin, demaryius, beckham, dez, julio, and jordy ahead of him. but if green drops past those guys and lands in the early 3rd, then hell ya sign me up. id still prefer him to cobb, jeffery, hilton, sanders, maclin,

He had 6 games that would back justification for his ADP this year but the injuries contributed to losses for fantasy owners and the bust games added to the heartburn. I agree with the ADP slide for 2015 but he will still be valued into the higher level of the 1st tier. Will his playoff performance give us an indication of where he trends? Remains to be seen but his last 3 games were demoralizing to owners that needed him for the championship run.

 

[TZMarkie]

whil I didn't draft or own some of these players, you simply can't rely on Rashard Jennings, Eli Manning, Cutler, Foles, Bob Griffin, Jimmy Graham to a lesser extent, Drew Brees - he's definitely lost his fastball, and he's throwing picks like mad lately..

WTH? Brees and Graham? Brees was the #4 QB on average in my leagues and Graham was #2 even with all his injuries and turd games. But dont draft them again.

Brees is still a great talent - had him the last 4 years. However, next year he is one of the guys I might release if the right players are available in the early rounds. We are allowed 3 keepers and he is approaching the point of not being worth losing a 1-3 round pick.

I know you didn't quote me Mr. Know, but I echoed those "I won't draft Brees again" sentiments earlier in the thread.

Brees was #6 in ESPN standard as far as I can tell.

I seriously don't see his situation changing all that much next year too.

Consider last year that he went around 2.2 or that was a consensus ADP from 5 sites. (fantasy pros)

You could have gotten Rodgers,Luck, Brady, and a host of others.

One can argue you would rather have Cam Newton, (at his ADP, who was 3+ rounds later) who ultimately he put up decent numbers considering he missed 2 games.

The RB scenario is sure to change there at Carolina this coming year, and that will affect how I see Newton.

He has some serious chemistry with Kelvin Benjamin, and that should continue to grow next year also.

Lets look at Russell Wilson. He was a tremendous value in retrospect.....and if Lynch departs, I like Wilson even more.

I think he was going around round 13 , though in most of my leagues he was going a little earlier.

I'd personally rather nail 2-3 solid WRs and possibly a RB in those earlier rounds.

If I ever get a QB in round 2 or earlier, its going to be Rodgers.....but I tend to go WR-WR anyway.

(the days of getting Luck later than round 3 are definitely over)

TZM

 

[Dismattle]

This could be a nice post to bump mid-Season next yr.

I already seen Harvins name posted, but wanted to comment..

I believe Harvin can have big games, but the goose eggs kill Fantasy weeks.

Its sometimes hard to carry players, attempting to guess when to start em..

If you do have some roster space, and he falls a bit (I dunno)

I think Id still take him, but Ive never Won a championship too LOL

 

[Eminence]

So, I hit a trifecta of suckitude in my big-money-league draft.

Snake draft, redraft. Two-QB league (0.5 PPR).

Julio Jones was too good to pass up, but I need to be more careful with guys coming back from injuries.

Foles and Cutler were good value at the time for this particular format, and I can't be too upset with myself. If Foles stays in Philly I would certainly draft him again for value.

Yes, I took a stab on Ray Rice, but I can excuse myself for this.

But I really "hit on" (read, missed) Vincent Jackson, Shane Vereen and Eric Decker. Honestly, I will never draft any of those 3 again. I don't think they are bad guys (well, except. Decker, who I think is a pu**y), but they are too dependent on too many other folks to have any value.

Jackson could be foreseen with the crappy QB. Same with Decker. Nobody ever takes control of New England's backfield, ever. They're pretty much established the fact that RBs don't matter.

What I learned and what I didn't like is how much value was on the waiver wire. Like if you drafted halfway decent but lost game 2 - 3, you could scoop up the Justin Forsett's of the world and add immaculate depth to a well drafted team.

Another huge, dumb, advantage is Defense. Scouting a good defense can definitely win you a game. I started Packers defense when they played Mark Sanchez. I think they had like 3 Defensive Touchdowns. Like, your team could do terrible but you can squeak out a win because your defense beats down Kyle Orton or someone like that.

 

[Eminence]

whil I didn't draft or own some of these players, you simply can't rely on Rashard Jennings, Eli Manning, Cutler, Foles, Bob Griffin, Jimmy Graham to a lesser extent, Drew Brees - he's definitely lost his fastball, and he's throwing picks like mad lately..

WTH? Brees and Graham? Brees was the #4 QB on average in my leagues and Graham was #2 even with all his injuries and turd games. But dont draft them again.

Brees is still a great talent - had him the last 4 years. However, next year he is one of the guys I might release if the right players are available in the early rounds. We are allowed 3 keepers and he is approaching the point of not being worth losing a 1-3 round pick.

I know you didn't quote me Mr. Know, but I echoed those "I won't draft Brees again" sentiments earlier in the thread.

Brees was #6 in ESPN standard as far as I can tell.

I seriously don't see his situation changing all that much next year too.

Consider last year that he went around 2.2 or that was a consensus ADP from 5 sites. (fantasy pros)

You could have gotten Rodgers,Luck, Brady, and a host of others.

One can argue you would rather have Cam Newton, (at his ADP, who was 3+ rounds later) who ultimately he put up decent numbers considering he missed 2 games.

The RB scenario is sure to change there at Carolina this coming year, and that will affect how I see Newton.

He has some serious chemistry with Kelvin Benjamin, and that should continue to grow next year also.

Lets look at Russell Wilson. He was a tremendous value in retrospect.....and if Lynch departs, I like Wilson even more.

I think he was going around round 13 , though in most of my leagues he was going a little earlier.

I'd personally rather nail 2-3 solid WRs and possibly a RB in those earlier rounds.

If I ever get a QB in round 2 or earlier, its going to be Rodgers.....but I tend to go WR-WR anyway.

(the days of getting Luck later than round 3 are definitely over)

TZM

I don't think Brees is the kind of guy that is going to fizzle out. I think New Orleans will add even more weapons and we see one more monster year from Brees before he truly regresses.

 

[msommer]

I would stop doing redrafts entirely if I could get my homies involved in an auction league instead.

Yes, I now that is not the point of the thread but really there shouldn't ever be any players on a do not draft list - only price, risk, reward evaluations

 

[pizzatyme]

I would stop doing redrafts entirely if I could get my homies involved in an auction league instead.

Yes, I now that is not the point of the thread but really there shouldn't ever be any players on a do not draft list - only price, risk, reward evaluations

To each his own, but I think there are many facets to "risk/reward". While you may "steal" a Sproles or Reggie Bush-type player in an auction that is H2H, there is a risk to even playing them. They may look like nice depth at RB4/5, but if it comes down to having to play them, you may very well be taking 5 points. I'd rather take the risk/reward $1 or $2 players like Polk, CJ Anderson, Boom Herron. They could amount to nothing or they could go off.

Now, I exclusively play best ball leagues, so I may be jaded, but I don't think so.

 

[mbuehner]

Stafford. Guy is true roster poison.

 

[Buffaloes]

Reggie Bush

this guy is carrying the flag out of the tunnel for my do not draft team and has been for a couple years.

 

[Johnny Blood]

None. There are many that will go way before I'm willing to take them but there isn't a player I would cross off my list completely.

Agreed 100%. You can't say a player is undraftable.

If you're in a 20 team start 4RB league, Trent Richardson is absolutely draftworthy. Value is value!

 

[mozzy84]

Graham, andre johnson, ellington

so if graham is sitting there in round 5+ your not taking him? makes no sense

He won't be sitting there in round 5.Hopefully people are considering ADP when listing players. Otherwise, it's a useless thread.

The title of thread is guys you wont ever draft again? Ever to me means that poster will never draft graham again, no matter his ADP

 

[Insein]

I'll never say never on a guy but Cordarelle Patterson had me completely bamboozled this year.

 

[pizzatyme]

None. There are many that will go way before I'm willing to take them but there isn't a player I would cross off my list completely.

Agreed 100%. You can't say a player is undraftable.

If you're in a 20 team start 4RB league, Trent Richardson is absolutely draftworthy. Value is value!

On this team of yours, would you draft Trent next year in the 10th or Chris Polk in the 20th?