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Any other Jake Plummer victims? (1 Viewer)
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mistersmith
Footballguy
I had him in 3 leagues...lost all of em. I'm planning on diversifying my QBs next week...
Mr. Pink
Footballguy
Benched Bledsoe for him in a keeper league. Had Lefty as my QB3. As a rule, I always submit my week 1 line-up based on the order they were drafted. Broke away from that philosophy based on the matchup.
I'm certainly not out of it, needing 11 from LT2 tonight, but needing only 2 would have been nicer.
For next week, I need to re-assess.
easy like sunday morning
Footballguy
I was fortunate enough to have Tiki, Jeff Wilkins!!!!!!!!!, and Bush. Those three made hopefully made up for Jake. I have the Washington D tonight and need 2 pts. My other QB option was Cpepp so it wasn't going to get that much better for me at QB this week anyway.
Statorama
Footballguy
If you like Plummer, there won't be a better week to pick him up. There were plenty of owners (me included) that thought he would slice and dice the Rams D. You might even see him on some waiver wires this week, so if you like him, take a flyer.
However...
The big problem with Plummer is that unlike last year he has a guy on the bench (Cutler) this year that's probably better than him. Shanny hasn't had any problems in swapping his RB's based on the hot hand, so Plummer's job security isn't as strong as it would be under another coach.
However...
The big problem with Plummer is that unlike last year he has a guy on the bench (Cutler) this year that's probably better than him. Shanny hasn't had any problems in swapping his RB's based on the hot hand, so Plummer's job security isn't as strong as it would be under another coach.
I do have crazy man love for Cutler......
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I need Randy Moss to outscore McCardell by 30 points tonight 
Musesboy
Footballguy
It was a freak performance from Plummer but he will obviously be a lot better than that. Walker's injury doesn't help if it causes him to miss any time. Lelie is already gone. Brandon Marshall could get the call earlier than we thought.
Plummer's numbers are normally restricted by the success of the Denver running game rather than his own poor play. He does fare better in home games though, averaging 19.0 points at home compared to 15.5 on the road.
He will be good value if someone has already dumped him in your league.
Things happen. Palmer had a bad game for the Bengals. It would be madness to throw Cutler in until he has backed up Plummer for at least a year. Shanahan won't make that mistake.
Plummer's numbers are normally restricted by the success of the Denver running game rather than his own poor play. He does fare better in home games though, averaging 19.0 points at home compared to 15.5 on the road.
He will be good value if someone has already dumped him in your league.
Things happen. Palmer had a bad game for the Bengals. It would be madness to throw Cutler in until he has backed up Plummer for at least a year. Shanahan won't make that mistake.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
The game was local to MSP yesterday so I got to watch it.
Plummer didn't look that good, but then neither did his offensive line. And the STL d-line isn't exactly populated with worldbeaters.
It's week 1. I'll reserve judgement for now. Few QBs that were supposed to look good actually looked good yesterday.
Plummer didn't look that good, but then neither did his offensive line. And the STL d-line isn't exactly populated with worldbeaters.
It's week 1. I'll reserve judgement for now. Few QBs that were supposed to look good actually looked good yesterday.
GOroute
Footballguy
I benched him for Mike Vick! Stupid. It goes to show you that these pre game analysis means nothing. Vick is my #1 guy, but I got cute and benched him Vick. Dumb! I would be blowing my opponent out if not for SNAKE! Now it comes down to the 1015 game tonight. Man, that's a long time from now.....
yeah but I love that double header tonite!!!!
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I'm guessing the guy rejected your offer?
GoNads
Footballguy
Exact same here
wolfie
Footballguy
Don't jump ship on Plummer and the Broncos, remember last year's season openner, on the road in Miami, Jaked looked terrible, and Denver lost, well the new coach of Rams, was OC, of Miami, think he got last years df scheme fom his friend the Miami DC. Looked a whole lot like that game last year. Give it another week, if results are the same, then start to worry.
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I'm almost certain to lose this week and Plummer will be the reason. It didn't help that I had Rod Smith starting too. Plummer's bad week cost me at 2 positions. What's really sad is my other option at QB is Favre!!!
I'm clinging to a 5 point lead, but my opponent has Lamont Jordan. I'm not very optimistc about my chances...
I'm clinging to a 5 point lead, but my opponent has Lamont Jordan. I'm not very optimistc about my chances...
Subjective opinion: Denver was able to run the ball effectively yesterday. As long as that's true, Plummer will have value because of Denver's play action passing gameplan.
Stats-based opinion: Plummer traditionally has gad a bad first week but has bounced back for solid seasons.
2005
Week 1: 1 TD, 2 INT
Rest of year: 17 TD, 5 INT
2004
Week 1: 2 TD, 2 INT
Rest of year: 25 TD, 18 INT
2003
Week 1: 0 TD, 3 INT
Rest of year: 15 TD, 4 INT
Totals for three years in Denver
Week 1: 3 TD, 7 INT
Rest of year: 57 TD, 27 INT
Stats-based opinion: Plummer traditionally has gad a bad first week but has bounced back for solid seasons.
2005
Week 1: 1 TD, 2 INT
Rest of year: 17 TD, 5 INT
2004
Week 1: 2 TD, 2 INT
Rest of year: 25 TD, 18 INT
2003
Week 1: 0 TD, 3 INT
Rest of year: 15 TD, 4 INT
Totals for three years in Denver
Week 1: 3 TD, 7 INT
Rest of year: 57 TD, 27 INT
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
Brutal game. I hope Brunell looks good tonight because he's going to be my week 2 starter (unless he puts up a plummer-esque game).
gregjcross
Footballguy
I owned Plummer between 1999 and 2005. If i learned one thing: here is the deal --- play him at HOME and not on the road, unless at OAK. Sit him every other game unless its against the league's worst defense, say the Titans.
Lauryn
Footballguy
it was also madness to go for it on 4th down from your own 30yd line, but he did it
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
One league I started him in has -2 for INTs and -2 for Fumbles. He had -1.1 this week. I have a 28 point lead on a guy who has Jordan and SMoss tonight. Gonna be close.
SaintArnold
Footballguy
You should've started Nall!One league I started him in has -2 for INTs and -2 for Fumbles. He had -1.1 this week. I have a 28 point lead on a guy who has Jordan and SMoss tonight. Gonna be close.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Same here, it's going to cost me at least one game, probably two (same set up in two leagues).
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
kal-el got it right. I have been a Plummer owner for a few years, and traded him in the offseason for McNabb (to an owner who wanted to open up cap space), and I know that EVERY year Plummer starts off cold. It's usually his 3rd or 4th game that he starts to heat up. I don't know about the home/away splits as mentioned by gregjcross, but I can tell you that Plummer is a slow starter.
If you want a quality backup, or if you need to upgrade to a #8-10 range QB, trade for Plummer now because with KC up next week at home in Denver, you can be he'll put up better numbers.
If you want a quality backup, or if you need to upgrade to a #8-10 range QB, trade for Plummer now because with KC up next week at home in Denver, you can be he'll put up better numbers.
railman305
Footballguy
got me negative points, but Im not as worried, as you guys stated he started slow the past couple seasons and will fare much better at home, although i am stubborn with my QBs, it will take another terrible game to really have me come down on plummer his offense has too many weapons especially with the run game that will set his pass up
3 of 4 leagues he set me back, but none are out of reach
gave me negative points in 2 leagues, and 1.36 points in the 3rd.
I have either CT or LT2 along with Gates in those leagues tonight so hopefully i can score what i need to get passed a miserable week 1 in the QB department.
Luckily my opponant in each of the 3 leagues also had an off QB day.
2 had hasselbeck and 1 had palmer who had underwhelming days lucky for me...
gave me negative points in 2 leagues, and 1.36 points in the 3rd.
I have either CT or LT2 along with Gates in those leagues tonight so hopefully i can score what i need to get passed a miserable week 1 in the QB department.
Luckily my opponant in each of the 3 leagues also had an off QB day.
2 had hasselbeck and 1 had palmer who had underwhelming days lucky for me...
Talking to my buds here, I said this exact thing. Denver is notorious for just not being ready to play week 1, especially on the road. The addition of Linehan knowing how that game down in Miami went...really thought the Rams would keep this one close and have a shot. Even a blind squirrel like me finds a nut once in awhile.I'm not that worried about Plummer or Denver, but enough to drop a WR5 for Cutler. Shanny's a little nuts, and I really wouldn't put it past him to throw Cutler out there if he really thinks he can get the job done. Cecil, SSOG, any thoughts on the likelyhood of this happening if Plummer has another horrible week?
Denver is notorious for not being ready to play in week 1? Funny, here I thought that Mike Shanahan's 10-3 record on week 1 coming into this season was best in the NFL. And here I also thought that Mike Shanahan's record in September was also the best in the NFL. Weird.As far as Plummer goes, he had a really bad game, but let's not put all the blame on him. His O-Line was getting him killed out there, and his targets had tons of drops. Javon Walker had at least 3 (including one that was a sure TD), reliable Rod had a drop or two, and Scheffler had a ball that hit him in the helmet. One of Plummer's INTs was a pass that went right through his receiver's hands, too (Brian Clark, iirc). Give Plummer those completions and he actually had a reasonably solid day- probably 300 yards and a TD, although still 2 INTs.As for Cutler... I seriously doubt he sees any PT this season unless it's a Denver blowout, or unless Denver's eliminated from the playoffs.
Hey SSOG do you know why O line play was so bad?? I didn't get to watch the game. I did hear that there were quite a few drops though...thanks for the homer info
jurb26
Footballguy
My lord yeah. Balt D is scary this year.
thecardiackid
Footballguy
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
You should've started Nall!One league I started him in has -2 for INTs and -2 for Fumbles. He had -1.1 this week. I have a 28 point lead on a guy who has Jordan and SMoss tonight. Gonna be close.
I would have been better taking a donut from Nall! 
