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Any Roethlisburger owners considering the bench here? (1 Viewer)

Futz

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Sure he went nuts in the final 10 minutes of that game v. NE after they called off the dogs but I'm seeing a real disturbing trend with this offense because of that injury riddled Oline. He could barely complete a pass for 95% of that game and was being sacked or hit left and right. His numbers in the previous couple games were suspect as well. 195 0 TDs v N.O. 163 1 TD v. Cincy.

Although Pittsburgh is at home, Oakland's pass defense(2nd) is no joke and they now have the blueprint handed to them from NE to disrupt Pitt's passing game. This game has low point potential written all over it and the current over/under of 41 is the second lowest total of the week.

If you have another decent option, I might look elsewhere.

Thoughts?

 
WHY?

Seriously I can't imaging benching Roethlisberger

and btw Oakland's pass defense is not nearly as good as you think (NFL rankings don't measure their results as fantasy defenses or points given up to opposing quarterbacks).....and Asomugha is at best 50/50 to play this week

 
Last week the Steelers were missing the left side of their offensive line. LG Chris Kemoeatu will be back this week which should help out both in the passing and running game. I am not sure what kind of game Roethlisberger will have but I wouldn't bench him unless you have someone pretty good to fill in.

 
He's not an auto-start thats for sure.

I've got him on the bench, but its for Vick, so I guess thats not the answer you are looking for.

 
If I were you I would drop Ben immediately and pick up Thigpen.

Seriously this is a hard question because it really depends on who your backups are and this is the wrong forum for who should you start. If this helps - I have Flacco who has a decent matchup against Carolina but I am still leaning towards starting Ben.

 
He's not an auto-start thats for sure.

I've got him on the bench, but its for Vick, so I guess thats not the answer you are looking for.
See I started to think this way after his first two blow up weeks he played. I've got to play him. Then a hiccup game, and then couple of putrid hiccup games and finally that disaster turned phantom stat line at the end vs. NE.Another reason I see some bad vibes in this game is that I see Pittsburgh really trying to run the ball here and that's exactly what Oakland likes to do. This usually translates into fewer possessions in a game and a quick low scoring game. Just my opinion. Matt Ryan might be my play here. A good option v. St. Louis this week.

 
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If I were you I would drop Ben immediately and pick up Thigpen. Seriously this is a hard question because it really depends on who your backups are and this is the wrong forum for who should you start. If this helps - I have Flacco who has a decent matchup against Carolina but I am still leaning towards starting Ben.
I'm not asking wsis. I'm just curious to see if anyone else is considering the bench for big ben and who they might be willing to play over him.Once upon a time I thought he was a stud that couldn't be considered for the bench. There may be evidence to show otherwise here.
 
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Benching Ben is a tough decision. He had some good games out of the gate after his suspension but put up 2 (almost 3) so-so to bad games thereafter. He was able to turn the other around but that doesn't distill any confidence in me about starting him in the future. In a vacuum he has the remaining games :

vs Oakland -- Although they've given up 16 passing TD's, this is the second ranked pass defense in QB completion % and yards allowed.@ Buffalo -- 8th ranked ypg, but rank lower than average (20th) in qb percentage. Have also given up 18 passing TD's and taken 2 interceptions. I'm guessing their qb yards per game is indicative of their league WORST rushing yards per game defense...and probably because they don't score as much as other teams and thus it's never a shootout.@ Baltimore -- Currently 14th in ypg allowed, and and 17th in completion %. But they tighten up in the redzone and have allowed just 11 passing td's opposed to 8 interceptions. vs Cincy -- 13th and 14th respectively in yards allowed and completion %. Have allowed on 11 passing td's coupled with 10 interceptions. Statistically a better passing defense than Baltimore atm.vs Jets -- 15th in overall yards allowed per game, but 1st overall in completion percentage, allowing ~just over 50%. 13/5 TD to INT ratio. We can all agree this isn't an average defense. vs Carolina -- 5th in total yards, but 15th in completion percentage. 14 passing tds allowed and 11 interceptions. I suspect their 27th ranked rush yards per game have something to do with it. Carolina is a bad team and Pitt could focus on pounding the ball and making little mistakes in this game.
The remaining schedule doesn't leave me with a lot of hope for blow up games. I took this and traded Ben recently with my leagues deadline fast approaching, coupled him with some extra fill for a more consistent and explosive signal caller. If you have depth at other positions, and can get someone to bite on his last performance, ship him off.

 
ceo3west said:
eaglezzz said:
I have a toss up between Ben and Eli. I have Eli in now but might switch to Ben before kickoff.
I've been switching between these two all week, will probably roll with Eli.
I'd certainly go Eli here. You can't take your foot off the peddle for minute against Philly so that's got big numbers written all over it.
 
ceo3west said:
eaglezzz said:
I have a toss up between Ben and Eli. I have Eli in now but might switch to Ben before kickoff.
I've been switching between these two all week, will probably roll with Eli.
I'd certainly go Eli here. You can't take your foot off the peddle for minute against Philly so that's got big numbers written all over it.
I kind of think the Eagles/Giants are in for a good old defensive struggle 17-14 type of game, with Bradshaw and McCoy having the bigger games and finding the endzone. but who knows could be the Vick and Eli airshow and a 38-35 type of game.
 
He's 3rd string on my roster this week behind Rodgers at Minny and Garrard at home against Cleveland. I don't like Ben's matchup.

 
Futz said:
vandyt said:
He's not an auto-start thats for sure.

I've got him on the bench, but its for Vick, so I guess thats not the answer you are looking for.
See I started to think this way after his first two blow up weeks he played. I've got to play him. Then a hiccup game, and then couple of putrid hiccup games and finally that disaster turned phantom stat line at the end vs. NE.Another reason I see some bad vibes in this game is that I see Pittsburgh really trying to run the ball here and that's exactly what Oakland likes to do. This usually translates into fewer possessions in a game and a quick low scoring game. Just my opinion. Matt Ryan might be my play here. A good option v. St. Louis this week.
I'm trying to decide this, too. Ben was terrible until garbage time last week. This week, there might not be any garbage time - either a hard-fought, close game throughout, or a Steelers win with them grinding out the clock at the end. I think I'll probably go Ryan in a dome.
 
I'm trying to decide this, too. Ben was terrible until garbage time last week. This week, there might not be any garbage time - either a hard-fought, close game throughout, or a Steelers win with them grinding out the clock at the end. I think I'll probably go Ryan in a dome.
Ben really looked like he missed Ward out there for most of the game last week. This week Ward will be back.
 
kiLLscaLLion said:
I'm probably rolling with Garrard this week over Ben (did that last week as well).
Exact same dilemma, likely going with Garrard as well.
Same here. We should feel real lucky that we got what we did from Garrard last week. REAL LUCKY! And now MSW is listed as doubtful. Garrard makes me nervous. I can see him putting up a 180 yard, 1 TD game this week.And I know that the Jets found some success passing against the Browns last week but look at the 2 previous weeks against Brady and Brees. I think I'm rolling with Roethlisberger this week.
 
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Since my other option is Schaub I will be starting Ben again. I have done so every week since he returned from suspension.

In other league, I am starting Vick over him. I also have Eli in that league and would have started Eli over him if necessary.

 
You should use the practice reports to your advantage when making a decision. In the case for Ben Roethlisberger here are the practice reports from today. Based on these I think he is a good play:

Steelers | Hines Ward not on injury report Fri Nov 19, 03:31 PM

Pittsburgh Steelers WR Hines Ward (concussion) fully participated in practice Friday, Nov. 19, and is not on the injury report for Week 11.

Steelers | Four players probable for Week 11 Fri Nov 19, 03:30 PM

Pittsburgh Steelers OG Chris Kemoeatu (ankle), DE Nick Eason (illness), LB Lawrence Timmons (hip) and CB Crezdon Butler (quadriceps) fully participated in practice Friday, Nov. 19. They are listed as probable for Week 11 and are expected to play.

According to Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune, Raiders RCB Nnamdi Asomugha (ankle) is "not a sure thing" to play in Week 11.

He's questionable on the injury report, but apparently wasn't overly impressive on the practice field Friday while going through "limited" drills. If Asomugha does sit, give Ben Roethlisberger's fantasy matchup a big upgrade.

 
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kiLLscaLLion said:
I'm probably rolling with Garrard this week over Ben (did that last week as well).
Exact same dilemma, likely going with Garrard as well.
Same here. We should feel real lucky that we got what we did from Garrard last week. REAL LUCKY! And now MSW is listed as doubtful. Garrard makes me nervous. I can see him putting up a 180 yard, 1 TD game this week.And I know that the Jets found some success passing against the Browns last week but look at the 2 previous weeks against Brady and Brees. I think I'm rolling with Roethlisberger this week.
Even if the Mike Thomas TD last week was a complete fluke, Garrard still threw for nearly 300 yards before that. Garrard is asked to do QB sneaks fairly often so there's also a good chance he gets a TD on the ground.I also consider the Brees game sort of a fluke...Another argument for Garrard is that Cleveland has a pretty good run defense so it's likely the Jaguars throw more than they run.
 
Considering benching Ben for Kitna or Hill. They are close this week.
same boat here. who do you like between kitna and hill? i dont see how ben outperforms these two. i think hill will throw more
I like Hill here since he attempts 50 passes a game...the Dallas secondary is still terrible.I actually have a decision to make among Roethlisberger, Garrard and Hill...
 
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Benching Ben in favor of Carson Palmer against the Bills. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I think the Oakland pass rush combined with the Steelers offensive line woes could spell big problems for Ben in this one.

 
Considering benching Ben for Kitna or Hill. They are close this week.
same boat here. who do you like between kitna and hill? i dont see how ben outperforms these two. i think hill will throw more
LOL I have changed my lineup 3 times. I am definately waffling. Right now Hill is the starter. Ask me again tomorrow and I may have Kitna in there. And yes part of my decision at this point is that Dallas run game could get on track against the Lions were Best is not doing much for the Lions side and Hill will have to sling it. Hopefully he doesn't get picked too much.
 
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vandyt said:
He's not an auto-start thats for sure. I've got him on the bench, but its for Vick, so I guess thats not the answer you are looking for.
I drafted Kolb and Ben. Was fortunate enough to grab Vick off the WW. I'd start Sanchez, Troy Smith, and Bradford over him this week. Don't go and release him, but you should be able to find some lower tier QB that will outperform him this week.
 
Just traded for Big Ben in a package deal because I'm weak at QB and WR. (Romo/Stafford/Henne and Hill owner). I agree Ben has to face a tough pass rush but won't he still be a safe bet for 250 and 2? Hill has the upside but seems more boom/boost. But I keep flip-flopping

 
Hopefully everyone who drafted Ben had another solid QB to get them through the suspension so it is hard to imagine him as a "must start". I'm benching him for Orton.

 
Starting Hill over him as of now.

I could see that game being a shootout and with very little run game out of Detroit Hill should pass a plenty.

 
Benching Ben for 3 TD 300 Yard Orton.
Hopefully everyone who drafted Ben had another solid QB to get them through the suspension so it is hard to imagine him as a "must start". I'm benching him for Orton.
I have the same choice and I'm leaning towards starting Roethlisberger (although my predictions are close).Dodds and Bloom are split too with one of them ranking Orton higher and the other preferring Roethlisberger.I guess it's times like this you go with your gut.
 
After the beat down last week, it'll be interesting to see if they come out and play like the Pats did following the Cleveland murder.

 
Well Well, Ben was huge today for a lot of teams. Many here in this thread are regretting benching him. I finally decided on Kitna so I didnt make out so bad. Still I'll eat my crow on benching Ben.

 

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