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Anybody buying on Demarco Murray? (1 Viewer)

lol cowboyz1 is the biggest homer on the board.

So afraid of Murray ending up with a division rival that he's convinced himself that playing ANYWHERE but behind Dallas' OL, Murray will fall apart and rush for 500 yards.

 
If you're still awake and have Twitter go to @KevinMatuszak. Apparently he broke the Murray story before Schefter and now says Murray is coming to the Eagles bacause the deal is done.
He's saying done deal. DeMarco to Philly, AP to Dallas. If this goes down, craziest off season by far and the end of the world as we know it!

 
lol cowboyz1 is the biggest homer on the board.

So afraid of Murray ending up with a division rival that he's convinced himself that playing ANYWHERE but behind Dallas' OL, Murray will fall apart and rush for 500 yards.
Yeah he magically doesn't get hit as hard in Dallas.

 
I think Dallas has felt all along that if Murray gets out of their established price range and they have to pay more, they'll pay it for A Peterson instead. I have no doubt they have found out what a Peterson contract and trade compensation will cost them. Jerry and AP have wanted this match for awhile and thus Murray gains little leverage by seeking offers from other teams. I doubt Dallas will budge from their reported $5 mil offer.

 
I hate the Cowboys but I think as a pure football fan, the Football Gods owe us a few seasons of a talent like AP behind that OL in Dallas. I hope it doesn't happen as a Redskins fan, but it could be a beautiful thing as a football fan even if AP is on the decline.

 
If you're still awake and have Twitter go to @KevinMatuszak. Apparently he broke the Murray story before Schefter and now says Murray is coming to the Eagles bacause the deal is done.
He's saying done deal. DeMarco to Philly, AP to Dallas. If this goes down, craziest off season by far and the end of the world as we know it!
why is it people are taking someones word for it when he is so craved for attention on twitter just look at it. he is begging for credit for something a lot of people assume.

 
If you're still awake and have Twitter go to @KevinMatuszak. Apparently he broke the Murray story before Schefter and now says Murray is coming to the Eagles bacause the deal is done.
He's saying done deal. DeMarco to Philly, AP to Dallas. If this goes down, craziest off season by far and the end of the world as we know it!
why is it people are taking someones word for it when he is so craved for attention on twitter just look at it. he is begging for credit for something a lot of people assume.
I'm not taking his word for it, just relaying what he said. As Bruce said above, the AP to Dallas rumor has been floating around for months. Separately from all of that, I think it would be great for football if this happened. As a fan, I'm rooting for it.

 
Have no idea if he's right or not. Saw Les Bowen credit him for breaking the news first and he alledgley had a pick showing he did. Oh well

 
Either Murray is on a fact finding mission to find out all he can about what Philly plans to do next season while already having a deal set with Jerry or Dallas already has their plan to bring in AP and Murray is on his way to Philly for good. Truthfully, I hope its the AP option. If not Murray would have a stellar year again in Dallas. I can't even begin to dream about AP in the Cowboys backfield. That would just be too amazing to comprehend. It would be like watching Barry Sanders in his prime being traded to a team with a great O line and a great QB.

 
You are right, it doesn't. I think DeMarco wants to stay in Dallas as well. I think most free agents would rather stay with the team that drafted them, for the most part.
Agreed. I think people overlook the non-football aspects of this. People don't want to pack up all of their things and move, leave all their friends, make their kids go to a new school and make new friends, etc.

How much or a raise would it take for people posting in this thread to pack up their families and move? I'd imagine most people here could make at least 20% more if they started looking for jobs with the entire country as their searching grounds.
Now suppose you only had a 3-4 year window to earn that 20% more and after that your income would take a dramatic downward turn, and in fact it may not even be clear to you how you will be able to earn an income...

 
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Either Murray is on a fact finding mission to find out all he can about what Philly plans to do next season while already having a deal set with Jerry or Dallas already has their plan to bring in AP and Murray is on his way to Philly for good. Truthfully, I hope its the AP option. If not Murray would have a stellar year again in Dallas. I can't even begin to dream about AP in the Cowboys backfield. That would just be too amazing to comprehend. It would be like watching Barry Sanders in his prime being traded to a team with a great O line and a great QB.
30 is a RB's "prime"?

 
Either Murray is on a fact finding mission to find out all he can about what Philly plans to do next season while already having a deal set with Jerry or Dallas already has their plan to bring in AP and Murray is on his way to Philly for good. Truthfully, I hope its the AP option. If not Murray would have a stellar year again in Dallas. I can't even begin to dream about AP in the Cowboys backfield. That would just be too amazing to comprehend. It would be like watching Barry Sanders in his prime being traded to a team with a great O line and a great QB.
If the Cowboys can't afford to sign Murray, they certainly can't afford AP's salary unless he is ready to go well under his market value.

 
Either Murray is on a fact finding mission to find out all he can about what Philly plans to do next season while already having a deal set with Jerry or Dallas already has their plan to bring in AP and Murray is on his way to Philly for good. Truthfully, I hope its the AP option. If not Murray would have a stellar year again in Dallas. I can't even begin to dream about AP in the Cowboys backfield. That would just be too amazing to comprehend. It would be like watching Barry Sanders in his prime being traded to a team with a great O line and a great QB.
If the Cowboys can't afford to sign Murray, they certainly can't afford AP's salary unless he is ready to go well under his market value.
It isn't that they can't spend money for Murray, it's that they don't want to.

I'm starting to not want Murray back, only because I'm not sure how happy he will be. I doubt he will play hurt at a bargain price if the boys aren't rewarding him for giving it all last year.

 
I'm starting to feel bad for Murray. Dallas abused him last season and now they're trying to drive down his price. It just seem pretty unfair that he was arguably their MVP last season, but they're looking to pay him less than what backup QBs and nickel CBs are making. I understand it's a business and I'm not saying the Cowboys should overpay him based on what he did in the past, I'm just starting to think this whole "devaluation" of the RB position is going a little too far.

 
Either Murray is on a fact finding mission to find out all he can about what Philly plans to do next season while already having a deal set with Jerry or Dallas already has their plan to bring in AP and Murray is on his way to Philly for good. Truthfully, I hope its the AP option. If not Murray would have a stellar year again in Dallas. I can't even begin to dream about AP in the Cowboys backfield. That would just be too amazing to comprehend. It would be like watching Barry Sanders in his prime being traded to a team with a great O line and a great QB.
If the Cowboys can't afford to sign Murray, they certainly can't afford AP's salary unless he is ready to go well under his market value.
It isn't that they can't spend money for Murray, it's that they don't want to.

I'm starting to not want Murray back, only because I'm not sure how happy he will be. I doubt he will play hurt at a bargain price if the boys aren't rewarding him for giving it all last year.
You may as well just call Murray a heartless gutless piece of crap.

 
If the Cowboys really play this game and let him walk, I'd have to guess a lot of Cowboys players will have second thoughts on how much they actually put on the line for the organization.

Murray put everything on him last year and played through injuries - minor ones and major ones. Saying "it's a business" might work for them, but it might have some other unplanned consequences down the road.

 
So, it appears Mathews hasnt actually signed with Philly.

If they sign Murray and then tell Mathews to piss off, WOW!!! for lots of reasons, wow.

 
So, it appears Mathews hasnt actually signed with Philly.

If they sign Murray and then tell Mathews to piss off, WOW!!! for lots of reasons, wow.
I think it would be Mathews choice to leave.
WHy is that?? Nothing is signed. Either side could back out
A deal was agreed to but the player has the option to back out. If Mathews wanted to prove himself by getting 250 carries, Murray kind of hampers that. If he's fine being a back up and making highlight real plays, then he can maintain his body and boost his stock.

 
So, it appears Mathews hasnt actually signed with Philly.

If they sign Murray and then tell Mathews to piss off, WOW!!! for lots of reasons, wow.
I think it would be Mathews choice to leave.
WHy is that?? Nothing is signed. Either side could back out
A deal was agreed to but the player has the option to back out. If Mathews wanted to prove himself by getting 250 carries, Murray kind of hampers that. If he's fine being a back up and making highlight real plays, then he can maintain his body and boost his stock.
You are going to have to explain this to me..

A player can back out of an agreement but a team can't?

 
So, it appears Mathews hasnt actually signed with Philly.

If they sign Murray and then tell Mathews to piss off, WOW!!! for lots of reasons, wow.
I think it would be Mathews choice to leave.
WHy is that?? Nothing is signed. Either side could back out
A deal was agreed to but the player has the option to back out. If Mathews wanted to prove himself by getting 250 carries, Murray kind of hampers that. If he's fine being a back up and making highlight real plays, then he can maintain his body and boost his stock.
You are going to have to explain this to me..

A player can back out of an agreement but a team can't?
A team can back out for a failed physical or the team can just drop him.
 
Billy Bats said:
Caplan: Members of DeMarco Murray's inner circle are headed to Philly, which tells you where this situation is going.

9:36am - 12 Mar 15

@fishsports: BREAKING: #DeMarcoMurray family is telling people "He's joining the #Eagles ' ... #Cowboys people aware of this @1053thefan

9:13am - 12 Mar 15
 
So, it appears Mathews hasnt actually signed with Philly.

If they sign Murray and then tell Mathews to piss off, WOW!!! for lots of reasons, wow.
I think it would be Mathews choice to leave.
WHy is that?? Nothing is signed. Either side could back out
A deal was agreed to but the player has the option to back out. If Mathews wanted to prove himself by getting 250 carries, Murray kind of hampers that. If he's fine being a back up and making highlight real plays, then he can maintain his body and boost his stock.
You are going to have to explain this to me..

A player can back out of an agreement but a team can't?
Technically, as a principle, of course both can back out.

In reality, the player doesn't really lose anything by backing out. If Mathews backs out, everyone moves on, and the Eagles never see him again--unless he is staying at the same hospital as one of the Eagles other new players.

However, the Eagles have to continue to do business, with Mathews' agent, and all the other agents and players out there.

There's no ramifications to Mathews career, but the Eagles could, potentially, look bad by doing it.

I don't think it's the end of the world, and as along as it isn't some regular thing, everyone will forget about it.

 
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So, it appears Mathews hasnt actually signed with Philly.

If they sign Murray and then tell Mathews to piss off, WOW!!! for lots of reasons, wow.
I think it would be Mathews choice to leave.
WHy is that?? Nothing is signed. Either side could back out
I haven't heard anything about the Eagles wanting to back out of that deal even if they sign Murray but I have heard it speculated that Mathews may reconsider if he'd now be relegated to being a backup. Admittedly it could go either way - but it would be bad for future business for the Eagles to pull an offer they agreed to, but just wasn't signed for logistical reasons.

 
How is it any different than Gore changing his mind? "Sorry Ryan, thanks for coming in but we decided to go in a different direction".

 
So, it appears Mathews hasnt actually signed with Philly.

If they sign Murray and then tell Mathews to piss off, WOW!!! for lots of reasons, wow.
I think it would be Mathews choice to leave.
WHy is that?? Nothing is signed. Either side could back out
A deal was agreed to but the player has the option to back out. If Mathews wanted to prove himself by getting 250 carries, Murray kind of hampers that. If he's fine being a back up and making highlight real plays, then he can maintain his body and boost his stock.
You are going to have to explain this to me..

A player can back out of an agreement but a team can't?
Technically, as a principle, of course both can back out.

In reality, the player doesn't really lose anything by backing out. If Mathews backs out, everyone moves on, and the Eagles never see him again--unless he is staying at the same hospital as one of the Eagles other new players.

However, the Eagles have to continue to do business, with Mathews' agent, and all the other agents and players out there.

There's no ramifications to Mathews career, but the Eagles could, potentially, look bad by doing it.

I don't think it's the end of the world, and as along as it isn't some regular thing, everyone will forget about it.
Exactly. The team has a lot to lose reputation wise if they were to back out of an agreed upon deal because a better player came along. Faking a failed physical would be even worse. No the decision is Mathews' to make.

 
So, it appears Mathews hasnt actually signed with Philly.

If they sign Murray and then tell Mathews to piss off, WOW!!! for lots of reasons, wow.
I think it would be Mathews choice to leave.
WHy is that?? Nothing is signed. Either side could back out
I haven't heard anything about the Eagles wanting to back out of that deal even if they sign Murray but I have heard it speculated that Mathews may reconsider if he'd now be relegated to being a backup. Admittedly it could go either way - but it would be bad for future business for the Eagles to pull an offer they agreed to, but just wasn't signed for logistical reasons.
Havent heard anything about it?? So what.

That is not something you would hear. WHy on Earth would anyone in the Eagles organization be stupid enough to say that? Say they don't get Murray, then they have Mathew who hears that they were gonna back out on the deal if they got Murray???

I can easily see the EAgles make this one "bad for future business" move to get Murray on their team and off Dallas. Sorry Mr Mathews.

 
A team can back out for a failed physical or the team can just drop him.
Back out of WHAT? Nothing was signed.
They agreed to the terms of the contract, but Mathews just wasn't there physically to sign it yet. So either side would be backing out of an agreement in place - in this case it could be a mutual decision to do so - even though they technically don't have a binding contract at this point.

 
Exactly. The team has a lot to lose reputation wise if they were to back out of an agreed upon deal because a better player came along. Faking a failed physical would be even worse. No the decision is Mathews' to make.
Totally disagree.

As I just mentioned, I think the Eagles would be just fine taking this one black eye to take Murray away from Dallas.

 
Exactly. The team has a lot to lose reputation wise if they were to back out of an agreed upon deal because a better player came along. Faking a failed physical would be even worse. No the decision is Mathews' to make.
Totally disagree.

As I just mentioned, I think the Eagles would be just fine taking this one black eye to take Murray away from Dallas.
Any future business with that agent would be tarnished. Potential free agents coming in would think twice about agreeing to anything with them. I don't think you understand the ramifications they'd face. It wouldn't be worth the black eye. They'd carry him to camp at least and then cut him if he wasn't performing.

 
Exactly. The team has a lot to lose reputation wise if they were to back out of an agreed upon deal because a better player came along. Faking a failed physical would be even worse. No the decision is Mathews' to make.
Totally disagree.

As I just mentioned, I think the Eagles would be just fine taking this one black eye to take Murray away from Dallas.
Any future business with that agent would be tarnished. Potential free agents coming in would think twice about agreeing to anything with them. I don't think you understand the ramifications they'd face. It wouldn't be worth the black eye. They'd carry him to camp at least and then cut him if he wasn't performing.
I agree that is what I think they SHOULD do.

But I don't think that is what they WOULD do.

 
Exactly. The team has a lot to lose reputation wise if they were to back out of an agreed upon deal because a better player came along. Faking a failed physical would be even worse. No the decision is Mathews' to make.
Totally disagree.

As I just mentioned, I think the Eagles would be just fine taking this one black eye to take Murray away from Dallas.
Duly noted - but those that operate in the real world may see why this is bad business and why agents in the future may take more of a hardline stance when dealing with Chip Kelly. It may also send a bad message to the players on their team and those considering to come to their team.

I think that the Eagles would sign Murray and still allow Mathews to sign - thus it would be his decision at that point.

 
Exactly. The team has a lot to lose reputation wise if they were to back out of an agreed upon deal because a better player came along. Faking a failed physical would be even worse. No the decision is Mathews' to make.
Totally disagree.

As I just mentioned, I think the Eagles would be just fine taking this one black eye to take Murray away from Dallas.
Duly noted - but those that operate in the real world may see why this is bad business and why agents in the future may take more of a hardline stance when dealing with Chip Kelly. It may also send a bad message to the players on their team and those considering to come to their team.

I think that the Eagles would sign Murray and still allow Mathews to sign - thus it would be his decision at that point.
They will do everything they can to make it look like it was MAthews decision

 
Exactly. The team has a lot to lose reputation wise if they were to back out of an agreed upon deal because a better player came along. Faking a failed physical would be even worse. No the decision is Mathews' to make.
Totally disagree.

As I just mentioned, I think the Eagles would be just fine taking this one black eye to take Murray away from Dallas.
Duly noted - but those that operate in the real world may see why this is bad business and why agents in the future may take more of a hardline stance when dealing with Chip Kelly. It may also send a bad message to the players on their team and those considering to come to their team.

I think that the Eagles would sign Murray and still allow Mathews to sign - thus it would be his decision at that point.
They will do everything they can to make it look like it was MAthews decision
Polian and Schefter yesterday on Mike and Mike said that FO personnel this year were more annoyed than ever with players and agents breaking their word... that numerous other deals had been agreed to and then backed out on -- just not made public knowledge. They also said the NFL is pretty pissed about what this "legal tampering" period has become. Wouldn't be shocked to see it reined back in pretty hard in the coming years.

I don't get what was wrong with the old system. When the new league year starts, you can start talking and sign. Anything before that is tampering. Black and white.

 
They will do everything they can to make it look like it was MAthews decision
And how well do you think that will work?
Seriously. If the Eagles in anyway cancel the deal, the agent and Mathews would be screaming it from the mountaintops.
And I think the Eagles would be ok with that this one time if they take Murray off Dallas and add him to their team.

They may also want to keep Mathews, who knows. But if they don't, I can easily see them back out.

 
I don't buy any of it, anyway, not unless DeMarco is taking a lot less than he's looking for to give the Cowboys a healthy Screw-You.

The Chip Kelly move seems to be take the cheaper back, because "you gonna be part of a committee anyway, and we don't need a stud back to get yards in this offense."

Maybe Chip is hoping the Cowboys blink.

The Raiders can use another back, and I think I'd rather have Mathews at his deal, than DeMarco at 7 or 8 mill. Terrifed about his usage last year.

 
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I don't get what was wrong with the old system. When the new league year starts, you can start talking and sign. Anything before that is tampering. Black and white.
I like the new way they do it. It gives more teams an opportunity to get a message out to players regarding their interest in them.

The old way, players were signing deals before teams could even call them.

 
I don't buy any of it, anyway, not unless DeMarco is taking a lot less than he's looking for to give the Cowboys a healthy Screw-You.

The Chip Kelly move seems to be take the cheaper back, because "you gonna be part of a committee anyway, and we don't need a stud back to get yards in this offense."

Maybe Chip is hoping the Cowboys blink.
That or Chip is really pissed off about losing by 1 yard in SF and AZ last year.

 
They will do everything they can to make it look like it was MAthews decision
And how well do you think that will work?
Seriously. If the Eagles in anyway cancel the deal, the agent and Mathews would be screaming it from the mountaintops.
And I think the Eagles would be ok with that this one time if they take Murray off Dallas and add him to their team.

They may also want to keep Mathews, who knows. But if they don't, I can easily see them back out.
I know it will be portrayed that way because it's a sexy headline but the Eagles aren't "taking" anybody. The boys are letting Murray walk.

 

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